Topic: Bernie Sanders Will Be Next U.S. President. (Read 783 times)

There is real danger in concentrations of power. That is true. But there is no reason the path to socialism needs to concentrate all the power in the state. And disempower every individual. Look at codetermination in germany for example. Or promotion of cooperatives in other european countries. And even in america. These policies and others can be taken further. Transitions of power can be gradual and in the direction of the society. Not just the state. Or the oligarchs.

That is a silly and ignorant claim...

Please elaborate on your lies... Exactly which countries have you lived in and for how long?

Elaborate on exactly what the problems are in each country that you believe makes them "train wrecks in action"


Also... do you really think you know me well enough to claim that I, "have just discovered the thin veneer of glamour of collectivist thinking"?  Do you really know anything about me or my background, or my education, or places I have lived?  No... you're just being an ignorant asshole

It wont be bernie. more likely it will be trump.

Actually some of us have traveled broadly and seen these train wrecks in action, as well as having studied and read extensively.  Unlike those who have just discovered the thin veneer of glamour of collectivist thinking, like you.

Cheers!

how if Bernie is not nominated put a vote in for someone other than Clinton or Trump. You might be able to write in Bernie Sanders or vote for Jill Stein.

I feel that right now Trump is the best possible POTUS nominee out of the five remaining contenders. That said, he is not the perfect candidate.

I don't know how effective he will be against the ISIS. If he could crack down upon the Saudi / Turkish support for the ISIS, then the Caliphate will be dismantled in a matter of months. Regarding DPRK, I don't think that he is going to do anything to provoke a war. The Mexicans will riot in Tijuana and Monterrey, and they will burn a few Trump effigies. But that will be it. Gradually they will come back to their senses. And regarding the federal debt, Trump is having some radical plans (such as the one-time 12.5% levy on the wealth of high-net worth individuals).

You should elaborate what a European social-democracy actually is/means...

Most of these ingrates were indoctrinated to think socialism is evil and of the devil (that's literally what they teach in school in America)

Americans have no clue what a social-democracy is... all they know is they fear/hate it... because they were told to during the cold-war
(they don't even know there is a difference between communism, socialism, and social-democracy)

That's right. The world won't be the same.

Radical Islam/ISIS will be gone. North Korea will have learnt its lesson. Mexico will have to deal with its own problems instead of throwing them on the US. Oh, and that 19 - almost 21 trillion dollar debt? GONE.

So, yes, the world will be a lot different. The world will be so so so much better when President Trump is in office and can finally Make America Great Again.

for me, bernie sanders will not be the next U.S. president.. i hope he would made it but not... i guess donald trump will be the next us president as a result this world will not be the same again for sure..

Bernie Sanders has no chance at winning the presidency. Here's why.

For starters, Hillary has won the majority of delegates plus she's gotten almost every super delegate. If the nomination goes the way the polls have predicted, Hillary will win the most super delegates and be the nominee. Which she will, Bernie has no shot anymore. He ruined his chances when he pushed the email issue aside.

Now you will have a Hillary nominee vs a likely Trump nominee. Right now, even if Trump loses Wisconsin on Tuesday which I think he'll WIN, Trump still has major states ahead which are bound to give him plenty of delegates, enough for the 1,237. Even if we get a convention, which is unlikely but Kasich and Cruz seem determined enough, then Trump will use his master negotiating tactics and steal delegates to win. Look it up, he has hired a team that is planning on stealing hundreds of delegates in the event of a convention.

So Trump vs Hillary, who wins? Trump. Simple. Too many people hate Hillary. She only has the support of Latinos, gays and angry feminist women that are 60 years old. The majority of Bernie supporters will flow to Trump in droves because they don't want another insider.

Trump will grow the Republican Party and beat the democrats. Even if Bernie were to win the nomination, which is unlikely, he'd provide a barrier to Trump that's for sure, but Trump still has a high chance to win.

Makes me happy too. We're finally going to Make America Great Again!

I'm european and seeing Bernie Sanders as United States president would be very good for me. He is very close to the "european" social-democracy, an ideal in wich I really trust.
Unfortunately it seems that Hillary will win the Democratic primaries...

The next president must anyone but Trump

He has ruled out that option.

But I hope that he will change his mind, if Hitlery is nominated as the Democrat POTUS candidate through unfair means. Consider this: Ted Cruz becomes the GOP nominee, although Trump wins more delegates compared to him. Hitlery becomes the Democrat nominee, although Bernie wins more states. In such a scenario, there is a strong chance that both Trump and Bernie will run as independents.

It will be a four-way race. Trump vs Ted Cruz vs Hitlery vs Bernie. 

I agree with you here.
Bernie is candidate without much support from establishment, without enough financial support, his agenda is to socialist or liberal for Democratic party etc.
His only way to become candidate for US president is to try as independent candidate.
If official campaign for the next US president will be between Hillary, Trump and Sanders I think Sanders will have good chance to win.

None of them are good for the future of the USA; only thing Bernie will ultimately accomplish is a tightened coupling between corporation and state, and that consolidation will continue to push us towards totalitarianism, which is what's truly killing the economy (after all, it must die for a master to come in and tell us what to do) and which Bernie just doesn't seem to understand; if Bernie is not a dictator by the time his 4-8 years is up, he'll have paved the way perfectly for the next guy, much like the preceding presidents.  Bernie wants to help but he doesn't know how because he doesn't know what's actually wrong, and by extension, nor do his supporters.  Socialism does not lead to more power to the people, socialism leads to more power for the state with the excuse given that it will do the people good, that it will represent you (LOL because it has a track record of doing this right), that after it seizes this power it'll just give it up, "redistribute" it; how many times must this happen in history before people wise up?  The obvious answer: they never will: there's a sucker born every minute.  All we can do is disassociate from the people who can't figure it out.

Let's be honest: there's plenty of Americans who are not good for the future of the USA either.  A leader is nothing without their followers.

Come back to your senses. More than 80% of the delegates and super-delegates have been allotted, and Hitlery is leading Sanders by a huge margin, thanks to her support base from the African Americans and the LGBTs. It will be impossible for Bernie to close the gap now. Unless Hitlery is indicted and send to prison, I can't foresee a scenario in which Bernie is allowed to run for the POTUS 2016.

If Bernie wins, it will be favorable to bitcoin, and the value will go up.

I hope so because the other two options are ridiculous and not a good future for USA. From one hand is the lunatic, schizo, racist Trump and in the other hand is the worst ministry in foreign policy of USA in history.

 I think that Bernie Sanders will be the next U.S. President. What do you guys think? If not Sanders, then who?