Topic: Best Way to Carry Your Seed When Traveling Or Moving Abroad? - page 6. (Read 1983 times)

You should be using encryption, particularly if you store a copy of your seed online. That way, theft of your seed won't automatically result in loss of your bitcoins.

You could type your seed in a plain text document, then encrypt it with password protection. You could also physically store your seed words in a way -- or in multiple parts -- where only you would be able to recognize and reconstruct them. If you leave them written down as a 12-word seed, there's a decent chance someone will recognize them as such.


Having multiple encrypted digital copies solves all issues. Just make sure to a create a system where you'll never forget or lose your encryption key.

To be honest, the safest place to store seeds is a safe deposit box in a bank, because I keep my seed there along with other securities.
But if we travel frequently it is difficult too, especially going abroad. In my opinion, the most effective way is to store it online, even though
the risk is quite large. I usually save part of it in email and save part of it in the notes on my smartphone. So far it is safe and has never
been hacked, maybe those of you who often travel can try the solution I did.

So I'm from the US.  But i travel quite a bit and am outside the US majority of the time.  My seed is stored online.   I do have my hardware wallet nano ledger s with me though.  Now I didn't want to bring my seed with me when traveling because well imagine something happens at customs and my bags get searched... well what if customs search through my stuff and then see a paper with my seed.  And of course there is a chance they know what it is and can write it down etc.  I heard many examples of those workers stealing from luggage, so imagine a search and then they see piece of paper and its words and they know what crypto is.  But that is rare of course.  




But when i travel abroad, I don't want to have my seed in the apartment as I don't think that is safe.  Where im located, there is lot of breakins... thats how it is here.  Thief would take electronics and wallet etc.  Doesn't matter what neighborhood you are in... its like this here and very common.  So people that say move... well most places are like this.  Even places that has security.  And because of this, i left my seed back in the US.  I mean look even in those rich places in california, you have breakins etc.




Now what I'm curious is for those of you who travel or move... how do you bring your seed with you?  Obviously if you are moving to somewhere else in the same state, well you can drive there with it so no big deal.  But what if you are traveling from say florida to los angeles?  Or florida all the way to canada or europe?  I mean having the seed with you written on a piece of paper when traveling when flying got to make you all nervous right?

If you get searched because they suspect you of smuggling or something they could look into your wallet. They can make you strip if they feel like it.

The best way is probably storing a copy in an encrypted USB pendrive. They don't check digital files, only physical stuff.

You can also carry a hardware wallet with.

Exactly, a piece of paper will get easily lost. Try having a journal or a ledger to write your seed phrase. I have mine on a Moleskine and it feels safer there because even if the custom looks at it, they will never bat an eye. If you really want to up your game with hiding it, you can use layers of ciphers to mask your real seed phrase.

To be honest, the safest place to store seeds is a safe deposit box in a bank, because I keep my seed there along with other securities.

i assume you didn't actually post the full algorithm publicly?

if it's just privately written down/stored, then it's just an encrypted seed---not the best encryption, but no one who finds it will instantly be able to break it.

keep in mind however, that for anyone remotely sophisticated who is able to take time brute forcing, there are only "millions" of possible combinations. that's not secure at all. i wouldn't consider it sufficiently encrypted to store publicly. it's a lot better than storing a seed in plain text though.

but for me keep it simple write down in piece paper and put it  on your wallet the custom will not check for that

Good luck with that!

IMO this is even harder than just brute-force combining every the possible allowed word in the dictionary. There are millions of free public domain books online (https://lifehacker.com/access-millions-of-free-books-added-to-the-public-domai-1837073153, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain).

You can just write it in the book or note book, no one will notice it

For me, I carry my seeds thrpugh my phone...

Social media is one also of the choices. Like putting it in a chatbox on ypurself in order to easy to access to it. Private Key or Seeds are definitely one of the most important thing in order to access our online wallet. We need to take care of it wisely.

Good luck with that!

IMO this is even harder than just brute-force combining every the possible allowed word in the dictionary. There are millions of free public domain books online (https://lifehacker.com/access-millions-of-free-books-added-to-the-public-domai-1837073153, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain).