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wintermeasures

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Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 03:18:58 AM

I want to put some bitcoin in digital places where I have stored some sensitive documents.
I figured that the best way to know if some hacker/script was able to reach that place was to put some bitcoin in the same folder.
But I would like to make it as easy as possible for the hacker/script to redeem that bitcoin.
What should I do? Just put an unencrypted wallet.dat with some bitcoin in the same folder?

On the other hand it's not a guarantee that the folder is not reached when the bitcoin is still there.
I have a bitcoin private key QR code on a *very* public place somewhere on the web and it's still not redeemed after months.
There is 0.0161 on that QR code.

I think it's useless you are storing them in a different folder, because hackers smarter and could read your pattern. If your folder till connected to the Internet so hackers can still touch it, I suggest you do not use the internet connection for sensitive data like you have, use offline stored . Thank you

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Quote from: Lauda on June 09, 2016, 06:03:38 AM

Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 05:55:21 AM

Putting a wallet.dat in a folder does not attract attention and certainly does not increase risk to get infected.

I never claimed that it does. What I'm saying is: If there is almost no incentive, why would someone bother to try and break into your system (which I assume is supposed to be secure due to the documents)?

Because I assume that there is already malware out there scanning for bitcoin on infected systems.
If it was collected, I should at least reinstall the OS.

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most bitcoin hacks are due to being connected to services which are bitcoin aware.

EG
using a hosting service that allows payment in bitcoin means the staff are fully aware of bitcoin. and any naferious staff who snoop customers files know what they are looking for.

EG
running a node and checking the IP addresses you connect to and then hacking them

EG
giving away your email address or receiving PMs on a bitcoin related forum/chatroom. getting prompted to sign up to a (PHISH)service (many people use same password so scammers use that phished password to gain entry to every login you own elsewhere) or to tempt you to download a file/app that has a trojan.

so although just putting a wallet.dat on a file storage is not really a temptation. because the hacker has to first hack just to know u have it. however leaving a few tips and pointers to hackers that you have a wallet.dat there or atleast using a bitcoin service can increase the odds

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Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 05:55:21 AM

Putting a wallet.dat in a folder does not attract attention and certainly does not increase risk to get infected.

Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 05:55:21 AM

Read my post

I have. Is the idea behind this, that the 'hacker' gets rewarded for doing it? It doesn't seem logical as the hacker would not know whether it was unencrypted or encrypted either (they would only know that after they've attained the file).

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Quote from: Lauda on June 09, 2016, 05:13:20 AM

Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 03:18:58 AM

Not really. If we are talking about a small amount of money, and you do not attract attention to yourself (aside from getting infected with malware and such) nothing is most likely going to happen.

Putting a wallet.dat in a folder does not attract attention and certainly does not increase risk to get infected.

Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 03:18:58 AM

But I would like to make it as easy as possible for the hacker/script to redeem that bitcoin.

Why?

Read my post

Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 03:18:58 AM

There is 0.0161 on that QR code.

Again, we are talking about a very small sum of money.

Large enough for a bot to collect it if it was able to reach that particular location.

It's like leaving some cash on the street in a busy area and see how long it takes when someone picks it up.
If nobody does, it's probably a safe place after all.

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Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 03:18:58 AM

Not really. If we are talking about a small amount of money, and you do not attract attention to yourself (aside from getting infected with malware and such) nothing is most likely going to happen.

Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 03:18:58 AM

But I would like to make it as easy as possible for the hacker/script to redeem that bitcoin.

Why?

Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 03:18:58 AM

What should I do? Just put an unencrypted wallet.dat with some bitcoin in the same folder?

Yes. That would take me a few minutes to use at most.

Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 03:18:58 AM

There is 0.0161 on that QR code.

Again, we are talking about a very small sum of money.

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Quote from: findftp on June 09, 2016, 03:18:58 AM

I think the wallet.dat idear is a good one, altough i'm assuming that indeed, not all hackers will know what a wallet.dat is.
Have you tought about placing the wallet.dat in a subfolder named: "bitcoin wallet backups" or something to make the hackers actually think about what kind of file wallet.dat is?

Same thing with a QR code, a lot of people (including hackers) will probably either not know what a private key is, or forget to check if it's a private key. You might want to rename the png file to something like "bitcoin wallet private key backup.png"

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