I was wondering if there was a consensus on the way to deal with the sales of Bet 365 accounts and alike, especially if they are selling the accounts along with IDs/Selfies. I’ve seen a lot of Bitcointalk accounts selling them, with no Trust related feedback (nor flags now), some did have DT feedback, and some had some untrusted feedback.
Conceptually, the sellers are effectively committing a crime by providing other peoples IDs in the transaction, leading to Identity theft, even if for the use of the Bet 365 account. These people seem to be on the dark side as it is, and that alone may call for a yellow flag + negative feedback, as one may be in high risk of losing their money when purchasing an account of the kind (i.e. not get their account in the end (*)).
(*) I came across a Bet 365 account seller the other day that had a Telegram group (or such) to warn people from scam account sellers. Paradoxically, he recommended some trusted sellers, amongst which was himself, his argument being that he always delivers the goods …
I thought that these cases might also fall under rule number 17:
<…> 17. Trading of goods that are illegal in the seller's or buyer's country is forbidden. [2]
But one would, if read verbatim, need to take into account the legislation on a country basis, and since we do not know the country of residence of the sellers/[buyers], then I’m not 100% sure if reporting is the way to go.
In summary, the cases to consider would be:
a. Selling Bet 365 account (or alike) with ID/selfie (high suspicion that it is not the seller’s own ID).
b. Selling Bet 365 account (or alike) with no explicit mention to ID.
c. Buying Bet 365 account (more difficult to find stated in a post, unless he’s been scammed by the seller).
And the possible actions a combination of:
1. Do nothing.
2. Report to moderator for potentially breaking rule Nº 17.
3. Give negative trust.
4. Yellow Flag.
5. Red Flag (only by those directly scammed – likely type II flag, being the contract the written price negotiation).
Related thread:
bet365 and bitcointalk accounts. I did not see a definite stand there.
Relevant post:
re: Hacked invites/accounts are not allowedAccounts on sites that require KYC such as bank accounts, PayPal, etc. are assumed to be hacked unless you explain why they're not hacked.
What do you think? Is there a common stand on the cause of action for cases "a","b" and "c" ?
@Csmiami
The part of the terms and conditions you referred to in English can be retrieved here:
https://help.bet365.es/en/terms-and-conditions1.2 All information supplied when registering with the site MUST be your information and be accurate and complete in all respects. Where this is not the case, we reserve the right to suspend the user registration and treat any deposits into the gambling account as being invalid (and any winnings arising from such deposit as void). Where a user registration is suspended, the relevant customer should contact Customer Services.