Topic: 🚀💥Bet it All Casino - Your premiere place to have fun (Read 770 times)

Interesting, by the way!

I don't know how good is faireum.io but many people are making positive comments about them.  I will try to open account with them and from what I had it seems faireum also offered backrolling too and I will like to invest in that.

Would you trust him? Or at least have you checked all the listed gambling sites on the link? Almost all bitcoin gambling sites are listed on game protect's site. Even trusted bitcoin gambling sites such as primedice, bitsler, stake are listed there. If you trust the list means that all bitcoin gambling sites are scam, would you say like that? I say it in general, no intention to defend this site personally.

That is very serious and I hope people and investors are ready this post.  Before investing it is very important you do more research about the personality of the op and were his company base.

Agreed.
I don't want to disclose too many personal details, especially in online gambling sites.
It is too risky.
Even KYC-required exchanges have not appeared in my prioritised ones to use.
Sometime I have to use KYC-required exchanges due to they are the best, and had high volume, or my interest coins listed on their platforms.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. I would like to add that flights from the major closest airport are included. Options that are not included: transfer to the airport from your destination, individual guide, excursion packages. Detailed information is available at our webpage www.betitall.com in terms and conditions section of our Sakura Race.

Step 2 out of 3. Would you like to continue? 

Precisely, those steps are making things complicated, not seen the point of asking for many information if OP is dealing with crypto, better to work with something according to what crypto lover likes, to attract more participants with this promotions.

Promotions like this really interest first time viewers but suddenly loses after knowing the grounds.

This is also my first time to see a prize which you do have a chance to trip on other countries. 9 days tour plus free meals and accommodation is great and imagine 1st to 3rd places would

have the chance to hit it up.I might try this one  but reading above about registration which do ask about lots of personal information's does ring a bell.

Interesting gambling website with so many gambling games inside. Wow, a trip to Japan? That will be nice if I can win those prizes because I really want to visit Japan and enjoy my trip to Japan. 9-day trip will impress the winner because they can go to Japan with free from prizes. I guess that there will be many gamblers that will try to play and expecting to win the game
Don't spend too much money bro because of the prizes

4steps on registration? What the hell are they? Are you asking so many personal information on that 3 other steps? What is the point of asking such information while you are accepting crypto as payment method?


There was another similar prizes by other sites, I can even say that the prize was better as it was a ticket and trip to watch Euro Final 2016. Even better the prize was free which means that users are not risking their money in order to participate on the draw of the trip.

Jeeesus Christ, a trip to Japan!! That is the biggest prize I have ever seen in crypto. I don't know if anything bigger ever happened. This prize is so big that I think it requires its own topic, this is going to be hidden from all other people who do not check this topic and I think you should start a new topic about the prize for sure.

Best I have seen was iphone or something, I have never seen a vacation to one of the most expensive places on earth, on an hotel. I think its just hotel booking that is covered right ? Flights are all our own but even with that its incredible that you guys are actually booking hotels for the winners, kyoto is expensive as hell and it is certainly going to cost you guys a lot of money to do something like this. I still can't believe it, this is by far the best prize I have seen and will do everything in my budget to try to get it.

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Thanks for noticing that its more familiar to use the main logo of bitcoin rather than cubits.

Its way easy to determine having bitcoin logo though there's the word indicated beside it. Wishing all the best bet it all.

Hi,

Thank you for the note.
Indeed, it is the old logo of "Cubits" which we used for Crypto->Fiat payment processing.
We shall remove that shortly.

Kind regards,
Daniel

Hi bet it all, I visited the website and I just noticed something on your payment methods.



The image of bitcoin used there wasn't the logo of bitcoin, I don't know what's that logo but I think it's best for you to replace that with real logo of bitcoin like this one.


Source: https://en.bitcoin.it/w/images/en/2/29/BC_Logo_.png

Hi,

This casino is licensed and operates not only within the license requirements but also international AML, other laws/procedures, payment method requirements, game provider requirements and have to comply with complex affiliate partner (communities and aff.) requirements.
The last part indirectly and directly means community approval, which, we can speculate, proves/shows more than a certain license.

Hi,

Our TOS state that we are eligible to enforce certain rules and/or procedures on a user in case of X, Y, Z, nevertheless it is just a possibility instead of a must. Basically, apply when needed.

Unfortunately, due to the complex and diverse nature of our operations, we can't describe/predict every single procedure, requirement, example in our T&C, therefore they are left general for the most part without very specific descriptions (in some points).

Let me put it this way. It is in our best interest to process withdrawals immediately and provide no hassle for the user (KYC and other checks as an example). Since a happy user is a returning user.

Hi whis,

I am very sorry that you've had some bad experiences with other casinos in the past.

The explanation why we use a mobile phone number is detailed above. In short, for fraud prevention, regulatory requirements and the benefits both for the user and the casino.

How is his casino bound by license rules and regulations?

you know that since your casino operates and is bound by license rules and regulations
your words about no KYC for crypto users are just words
meanwhile your TOS states unequivocally that users will be required to send their documents and undergo KYC procedures
there is not a single line about crypto users being excluded from it , or even a section about cryptocurrencies at all
so I can safely assume that all the cryptousers will be subject to TOS rules i.e. KYC
please, prove me wrong and put the no KYC policy for crypto deposits into your TOS

as you stated "Crypto users will indeed be able to enjoy full anonymity". why require Mobile verification on sign up ? next will the site ask for users selfie or document when they make withdrawal "cypto" . i had few bad experiences when signing up some online casino , beginning they'll tell you for "crypto" fast deposit/withdrawal no verification needed . in the end after i put some small deposit to try and won some to withdraw all the "blah blah thing start to happen" (need verification proof) , no choice but to play till my balance to 0 and never visit those site again .

We absolutely love crypto, crypto adopters and users, therefore the addition to cryptocurrencies to our payment methods and currency support.
The management board of the casino has been an early adopter of crypto, however, due to various limitations, we have not been able to fully implement the crypto-support at the casino itself.

We just want to provide a safe and fun environment for crypto enthusiasts to play at. That is it 

If you want to act like a FIAT casino then dont come into crypto market expecting a warm welcome.

We hate fiat uses here, there is a reason why we use cryptos.

Didn't you see the hint in BitcoinTalk forum name ?

Hi,

We are a FIAT casino that has added an option to place wagers and to deposit using crypto. We are not a BTC gambling site per se with random games from github that are "provably fair".

Similarly to a building we have our gaming portfolio, which consists of world-leading game studios worth billions and quoted on various stock exchanges around the globe. Companies like these can't offer their services to "scam sites". And a license and payment providers, to name a few stakeholders.

Furthermore, we don't offer "our games" we have games from proven game studios (as mentioned above a few times) that go through immense certification and validation of their game engines.

Very wrong analogy because the Vegas casino has a building, can't be copied or faked.

BTC gambling site is, by default, a scam project.

You start on the wrong foot, we will always assume you're a scammer unless you prove the contrary. That's the difference with a fiat casino with real estate when you assume it's legit because otherwise it couldn't have opened a business in the city or at least has too much to lose (the buildings) to scam people.

Hi,

Bet it All Casino comes from the FIAT world of gambling, the "classic" world.

Let me explain to you as to why we use mobile phone verification:

1. In the "classic" online casino world, bonus abuse and fraud is a very common practice. Edge seeking people buy identities or use identities of other people to repeatedly use welcome offers of online casinos since they are profitable if a certain high variance strategy is used. The mobile verification makes this process a lot harder.

2. Mobile verification gives the user and the platform a great way to communicate with each other and an extra layer of security in the case of lost password, e-mail etc.

3. This is a must requirement under MGA license since we have applied, we have to comply.

Just to illustrate the picture.

Hi,

Dear members, the casino offers a great service to its players and will continue to do so. Who are the owners and/or shareholders is secondary and non-important.

To continue, let me bring up an analogy.
You enter a casino in Vegas you know nothing about and start demanding the floor-men to tell you who are the owners/shareholders of this casino, otherwise, it is fraud and you will not play in it. They will be happy to tell you who the CEO is, which in our case is publicly available information.

Bet it All is an online casino licensed by the government of Curacao and passed numerous audits & verifications by gaming providers, payment methods, passed community approvals and the test of time with positive reviews all around the web. There is nothing more to add here.

Mobile number ? Really ? You think people are willing to give you their mobile numbers in order to register on a casino website ? I didn't go past registering page to begin with let alone gambling here just because of that. Maybe people are capable of giving fake mobile numbers or maybe its important and you send some sort of code for it but in the end I will not give you even a fake mobile phone number.

Why would you think that when gambling online is illegal in many many countries that those people are willing to give their personal mobile phone numbers to a gambling website to make their names show up on all kinds of wrong places ? You can do many great things like you listed here but no matter how amazing or horrible this website is in the end as long as it requires my mobile phone number I will not play there even if it gave me 1 bitcoin for free to test it.

It's good that Bet it all is answering some questions. You said we didn't give you a warm welcome - well, this community just has been through too many scamming projects not to be tough. When anything looks suspicious, we can't keep quiet about it. Answering is the first good sign, because many new casinos just ignore or delete the messages they don't like, which results in the end of their career on this forum, basically.
You told us about your casino's registration, license and KYC information, which is great. Could you please be more specific about 20 years of experience, though? Many people brought that up, and if you avoid answering, people will believe that you are lying about it. Maybe there are some people we could google or something like that. It could be helpful.

I didn't see any information on your website as well, it also states:

"BetitAll.com is operated by former professional poker players and entrepreneurs with more than 20 years experiance in poker and gambling industries".

And I think you need to correct the spelling of "experience" as well. Just minor though. However, I'm just disappointed with the whole KYC process, but that's me. Best of luck though.

SoftGamings fundist ; both the casino and affiliate program

Hi,

Please read the answer above where I've addressed the KYC issue. It is applicable for FIAT players when they reach a certain deposit/withdrawal treshold.

We're running KYC checks not because it is our sincere will to do so, it is a standard license requirement and a standard requirement regarding AML, for example. Since we're a licensed casino that has to comply with the license rules and the rules set out by game providers and payment providers that all too are licensed, monitored and otherwise supervised by their respective regulatory bodies.

Hi,

First of all, we're a turnkey casino with our own license, therefore, all game providers and payment solutions have direct contracts with us, meaning they only operate with licensed casinos and we're going to be held accountable if anything happens (instead of being a white-label like SoftSwiss casinos (direx n.v.)).

17 game suppliers and 10+ payment methods surely could not operate with an invalid license holder, could they?

Furthermore, the list names a few very reputable casinos like guts.com, instacasino.com who hold an MGA license too, to name a few, therefore the claims are totally void.
To finish, there is no evidence from the Curacao government except "he said, she said" type of claims.

It is outrageous how much self-claimed industry experts have been popping up lately throwing very serious claims left and right about the legitimacy of certain casinos.

Hi,

We used to have Cubits as our BTC payment processor however, we've introduced PayCryptos - a solution developed by our platform providers. Basically, it uses a similar mechanism, sells the cryptocurrency at a spot rate in an exchange, therefore we don't have an active position in crypto nor we're exposed to the rate fluctuations.

1. You can play natively in crypto by choosing mbtc, ltc and/or eth as the account currency and enjoy games with it.
2. You can play in FIAT and deposit by using crypto as the payment method, btc/ltc/eth.

Hope this helps.

Hi,

Could you define which information are you seeking?

The company info is clearly stated on the website(s).

No thanks.

You just explained you can't give any details of anyone and expect us to believe your trusted professionals.

Foesn't work that way.

Good luck.

Hi,

This is a standard point in T&C regarding KYC that can be enforced or when must be enforced due to the license requirements. The license requires to perform a KYC check after €1,000 in deposits or €1,500 in withdrawals are being made (and/or any other currency equivalents).

Fortunately, this does not apply to Crypto. Furthermore, a short registration asking to fill out only the e-mail and the currency is underway, therefore Crypto users will indeed be able to enjoy full anonymity.

Hi m0gliE,

The managing director and head of affiliates are outed on GPWA.org, a site that accredits the casino and their affiliate program by running T&C audits, management checks and so on.
Unfortunately, no details about anyone else involved cannot be given.
The way iGaming works is that players, affiliates and others are free to rate, complain and otherwise leave feedback about a certain casino and all of this information is freely available on the web, therefore the "market fixes itself" and if our claimed information is false, then the market will adjust to it and make amendmends.

Furthermore, the board consists of established land-based casino owners that, as mentioned before, have been in the business more than 20 years in various CIS countries and people with poker, casino affiliation, and other business backgrounds. The team has very diverse experience in literally any aspect of the casino business.

Is there anything else I may address?  

Yeah and if they ask for KYC what's the point of using crypto?

I mean there are thousands of legit casinos using fiat where you have 0 chance of getting scammed because otherwise they would be brought to court. Why going with the sgady brother if ha asks the same thing than the fiat casinos?

Hi everyone,

My name is Alvis and I am managing this Casino and the affiliate program.

Not the warmest of welcomes, nevertheless we're happy to be a part of this community now. 

Since some serious claims have been made in this thread already I've decided to take the lead over from one of our junior employees to address all of the questions myself. At least till the main things have been covered.

Nothing new honestly, not that I like this or approve of it, but literally every gambling website out there uses this "technique".

Only ones Ive seen so far that dont do this are pure dice websites..

Which platform are you guys using ?

I agree with mirakal that a signature campaign could help you to spread the word about your casino, so that more people get interested in playing there. As other members mentioned, since you state you have 20 years of experience, it would be great if you could prove it by referring to some of the team members and projects they worked for, or the name of the land-based casino that is now online. If you are truly that experienced, it will help you a lot with getting more users, because experience and trust is very valued on this forum. If these are just words, however, you should remove them, because lying is not welcomed here. I'm also wondering whether you are registered somewhere and operating officially now.

I understand that this is how it works, but it doesn't seem fair to me. That's the reason I avoid such websites.

This is not how it works, Even on pokerstars.com/it/es/eu (if the rules are not changed on last few years) when you open one account you can deposit ASAP, only when you withdraw they will ask for KYC.

Funny how they do accept anonymous deposits in the first place. If a casino or whatever service has a standard KYC policy, they should ask their customers to verify their accounts before they can deposit. Else it's just unfair.

When i do read up about KYC then its already a turn-off.  KYC for users protection? I dont know if they would able to compete on current top leaderboards when it comes to casino rankings.
It shouldnt really be strict on the first place.

Stay away if they ask for KYC, you never know who are behind it. That's the safest you can do for yourself so resist from such site besides look below. Its listed as scam.


Its in the list. I'm afraid our request to know who we are talking to is going to be denied. I'd still be interested to know  who you are and what made your company or what did your company do that they were listed. Good thing that curacao list is updated.

If you really are a good company like you claim the only real effective way to get your website exposed is to run a signature campaign. Around 50 users in total from all categories and rankings should be enough to give you the views you need to make yourself known in the gambling world of bitcointalk. Sure you have this thread here but it will be buried out if you don't have the people attention.

I wonder why do you interested on such bonuses? I'm sure it is similar to other deposit bonuses which has high wagering requirement. Just checked their terms about bonuses, and I'm right that the bonuses has 25x wagering requirement (deposit + bonus) so it is basically 50x wagering requirement which is much more higher than other bitcoin online casinos. Still interested about it? LOL


Signature campaign wont work well in this casino IMO, unless they are proving what they claims about their 20 years experience in this gambling industry. I do even think that they dont need to have signature campaign if what they claims is true. Why? As they should have bigger players base than other bitcoin casinos because they have been in the industry longer than others.

Your website seems very nice and you have a lot of games to play on it. However, you have not enclosed any information about you or the company where you are registered, terms and conditions etc.
If you do so you will probably attract more gamblers to your casino as transparency is a feature that it is valued a lot in the industry, especially for online casinos like yours.

Site looks good but I'm still waiting for a feedback from users regarding their experience.
New in this forum but in existence for many years already according to m0gliE, I'm sure you already have players who can at least share.

Actually I'm more interested on this one, wondering if anyone has already enjoyed this decent reward so far.

I have a little suggestion though, why not consider running a signature campaign in the forum, just to spread some info about your site.

Unfortunately you are on the Curacao licensing scam casinos list!

How do you hedge yourself against crypto price volatility if you allow crypto deposits to be converted to fiat currency?

For some reference, a lot of gambling operations have been burned by this in the past few months.

Can we have more information about your company? I can't find anything on your website.

never heard about this casino before
love their KYC policy:

 2. I received a document request. Why?

Here at Bet it All we take customer security very seriously. To ensure safety daily security checks are performed. One of these procedures is requesting documents from customers to verify their accounts. This might happen after a deposit, before a withdrawal or in any other period of time after registration.

so much for cryptocurrency "anonymous" betting

Cool cool cool...

I guess you wouldn't have any trouble going fully public on who you are, where is your company based and so on then?
I mean if you're in the business since 1999 (20 years of experience) you sure don't want people to believe you could be an asshole trying to scam them right? Best would be to fully disclosed personnal informations and your previous experiences so we know you're not just lying

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