Topic: Betcoin isn't a scam just shitty.... free exploit included (Read 1176 times)

Indeed a good idea to not repeat your bs and nonsense again!





Are you able to understand that mBtc Sit & Gos and cash games on betcoin.ag don't count for the $ leaderboards at WPN?

Pokerscout list betcoin.ag as a separate poker room and not as a skin on the Winning Poker Network, is saying it is not a skin.

Winning Poker Network do not list betcoin.ag as a skin, is saying it is not a skin.

What details are you missing? 


I never spoke about details or software, but it was tortic25 who claimed that betcoin.ag would be a skin on the WPN, because they use the same software:



I stated the following logic why betcoin.ag is not a skin:

not gonna repeat myself on everything "again" cause you're just a troll that resorts to scamming...
it's clear you can't understand simple logic... first you claim pokerscout says betcoin is not a skin... i give you proof that pokerscout has no details saying it is or isn't a skin... and you come back to argue saying the only details pokerscout has is it's software details... i means thats the entire point i was trying to make you simple minded troll....
And your entire logic for betcoin not being apart of wpn is "it wouldn't make sense for betcoin players to join the wpn leaderboard with it's horrible cashgame traffic" that's the only thing you have said to backup your statement that betcoin isn't a skin... vs proof after proof i gave you... you're the dumbest guy i have ever talked too and probably a burden to anyone around you since you resort to scamming.
your lifes meaningless bro

Sorry, your dumb lying style implied that you are from betcoin.ag.

No, you did not tell me to look this shit up at betsofts "fucking" homepage. The word "betsoft" is even not mentioned in your entry post.


I said betcoin.ag does not share the cash game traffic with WPN and I said that betcoin.ag is not a skin on the WPN. Betcoin.ag might share the WPN cash game leaderboard, but this would not make any sense, because with the low and micro stakes traffic on betcoin.ag, players are not able to reach any prize level of the WPN cash game leaderboard.


Use the same software does not necessarily mean "on the same network"!

- WPN publicly state that betcoin.ag is not a skin of them

- Pokerscout.com publicly state that betcoin.ag is not a skin of WPN

- Betcoin.ag cash game and sit & go players are segregated from WPN cash game and sit & go players

-> this is how they are saying it is apart from WPN


As you appear to be a google expert, did you google betcoin.ag scam?

You might missed that part, but your statement is from March 29th, 2016.

Take a look at this: September 20, 2016:


As I already aknowledged, I misinterpreted your behaviour.

Do you mean the value of the current betsoft jackpots is 8 million dollar?

Where is it stated that they require only 300,000$ for it's clients capital?

What does client's capital mean? The total collected jackpot contributions?


Yup, your behaviour definetely appear to be that of a 9 year old.


Game Protect offers several services:

a) Inform about proven scams and possible scams or at least risky operators

b) Consumer protection service for Game Protect qualified accounts

c) Litigation proceedings basically on a "no cure no pay" basis, for Game Protect not qualified account cases.

lmao wow you're so dumb...
the title saying bitcoin isn't a scam is me obviously being sarcastic i made this thread to show what a scam they are.


"-> Yup, this is the betcoin.ag dumb lying style, you are doubtless from betcoin.ag."
and i'm not a complete retard like you... this thread is to show they're scammers but theres no need in blaming them when it's betsofts fault just go to "betsofts" fucking homepage and you will see everything i mentioned... i mean i told you to look this shit up so you don't come back saying dumbshit.


"50. Betcoin Poker: 24 Hr Peak: 55   7 Day Avg: 20"

these are the stats for betcoins traffic yes... players signed up with them it that doesn't change the fact they share the leaderboard which you didn't look up for proof and the mtt players. and the dumbest fucking thing you have said

Oh, wait! Pokerscout.com is lying and falsely claims that betcoin.ag has its own poker room


http://www.pokerscout.com/UntrackedSiteDetail.aspx?site=Betcoin
http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=Winning&ab=1903520

Do you see they are both yatahay software?
http://www.flushdraw.net/networks/wpn/

The Winning Poker Network, formerly known as the Yatahay Network, has been around since 2001. The network underwent a huge rebranding campaign in 2012


betcoins Owner/operator: details are not even on pokerscout so how are they saying it is or isn't apart on wpn?



and since i've explained this to you twice already and you're too lazy to type 3words on google here's the link https://www.betcoin.ag/congratulations-sit-crush-winner-ta65188-1




i don't know what else to say to you your logic is im from betcoin because i decided now 3years after this guy didn't get his jp to defend them? that's like taking a medicine that hurts you and sueing the doctor instead of the creators... betsoft has upto a 8million dollar payout and requires only 300,000$ for it's clients capital..
mean while a real casino has low payouts probably like 100,000$ max and are required to have millions on hand it's clear besoft is breaking gambling laws...


i told you to google for all the proof i have just had to gather links for but your logic is you know every thing and think you're qualified to give gambling advice on your shitty site... it's like i'm talking to a 9year old who refuses to listen



oh you know what i just looked at your thread i thought it was like gambling reviews... but it's just a shitty thread asking for money with no proof you can protect your clients.

-4trust  with only 10pages on your thread "i don't even see many buyers" but yeah you get like 90$ a month altogether i'm guessing and offering Lawyers and private investigators for your clients

oh yeah you're right i mean i have acr and blackchip poker downloaded and still don't see the same cash players from each lobby... but i must be missing something...
i also have accounts on bitcasino, 4grinz and bitstarz but for somereason the jps are all different sizes.
and lastly i'm sure wpn just "sold" their software even though betcoin players are added to the sitncrush and cashgame race like all the other skins.


i mean come on you say you use 2+2 and you're this clueless i doubt you have ever used any of these sites.


and even if you had a clue about anything you said you would know betsoft only requires 300,000$ capital to use their software but the payouts...

but rooks revenge has a payout of million chips with 1mbtc per line bet on betcoin, that's a 8$ million payout but they only require 300,000$ capital to pay this huge amount so of course it's betsofts fault.



Edit just noticed you have your own site and have 0 knowledge about anything you posted gj misleading people.
ik you're probably stubborn so just go to betcoins home page and you will see they even make public announcement about the sitncrush.. and assuming you don't even play poker download a few skins and see if you see the usernames from the first skin, in the lobby of the other skin you log into.


Edit actually a few of the jps may be the same because bitcasino.io and vegascasino.io are owned by the same group i also think bitstars has a few partners.  and i remember reading americas cardroom bought out some wpn skins so there's a chance a few of the skins may be merged... my point is not all of the skins share cashtable players... if they share sitncrush, the freeroll leaderboard and tournaments player how can you say betcoin isn't apart of wpn?

All WPN skins share the Sit & Go and cash game traffic and all are connected to the same Sit & Crush and cash game leaderboard. If the Sit & Go and cash game traffic of a skin would be not shared, then this would mean that each skin has his own Sit & Crush and cash game leaderboard, but this is definetely not the case and you can prove this.

Only betcoin.ag does not share the Sit & Go and cash game traffic with WPN and is not connected to the weekly leaderboards, because they are not a skin!

You can see the WPN skins here: http://www.winningpokernetwork.com/partners/   -> not one word about betcoin.ag


The WPN skins merge the MTTs, Sit & Gos and cash tables. Ask on 2+2 if you do not believe, they have their own thread there.


Yes, the network does the support for all skins (not sure about betcoin.ag).

Yes, betcoin.ag has to handle its payments, because they are not a skin.


Do you mean was not the most popular at betcoin.ag?

In this case, I can inform you that these slots run on the Betsoft gaming server and progressive jackpot slot contributions are collected from all casinos who offered "the Glam Life".

I can't think of a single pokernetwork that shares it's cashtables... in the past this cause alot of skins to go broke, not being able to pay's it's players.
and wpn stopped sharing sngs about 2years ago.

the wpn skins merge the players in the mtts so yes it is a skin..
i'm 100% sure the support staff is shared within all skins like i said above the only difference from betcoin and other wpn skins...
is that becoin handles its payments, all of the other skins use a 3rd party to payout it's users.



which is why i wont play on nitrosports, i pref cash and sngs over mtts but betcoin didn't have enough action in 2/3 options nitro would fail in all 3 since it doesn't have a huge mmt playerpool.




Betcoin.ag extort 500 Bitcoins Jackpot winner for "settlement"
i was playing there when this jp was won, the slots where def bugged considering the game that hit the jp wasn't the most popular but somehow had a 100x bigger jp then any other. i don't think they should have paid the full amount since the fault was in the software provider..

and yet every one of the top btc casinos still use betsoft including betcoin. it's funny so many people have gave an opinion about this... but still support betsoft enough that it has 
a large enough demand for these casinos not to lose this rigged provider.

Betcoin.ag scam!

Betcoin.ag extort 500 Bitcoins Jackpot winner for "settlement"

In cooperation with Betsoft scam gaming software

Betcoin.ag is not a skin on the Winning Poker Network (WPN), otherwise you could join the huge cash game and Sit & Go traffic of the WPN.

Betcoin.ag join the WPN tournaments thru the Winning Tournament Network.

my email was hacked 4weeks ago... they closed my account as i requested"tbh they closed it without any proof it was actually me the owner" but w/e
then they refused to allow me to create a new account... so i had to get a phonecard for my old cellphone so i could reclaim my email...

5days ago they reactivated my account and even though i now have my email... the "request new pw" for betcoin isn't working... i sent a ticket 4days ago so they could help and still no reply... i was going to talk with live support today to see if they could forward it but the site seems to be down "Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server."

i have never liked betcoin but after losing my accounts i realized no matter how shitty they are and all the other wpn skins it's really the only choice for americans...

ignition may be a little better but it took 3weeks just to get verified to cashout and everytime i play there it's a new hassle...


betcoin brian is the one that refused to allow me a new account... i didn't take screenshots so believe what ever...
after telling him 2times my email was hacked i couldn't access it he kept repeating "why didn't you just change your password instead of having your account closed"

just go to wpn homepage there is basically 0 requirments for those monkeys who work there... and the sad thing is... betcoin brian and betcoin "andrew" are the names of the supervisors you talk to on any other skin... americas cardroom, betcoin, blackchip etc... with only 1network for me to play where i live everyskin is ran by the same monkeys who run betcoin i love poker, but i guess i will not being playing it until there are more options



oh and a few months back when i sent a report to them, saying tournament tickets could be exploited for entries into tournaments they're not meant for
staff told me it was nothing...


since it's nothing i'll posting here...
                         change user id
https://www.betcoin.ag/user/xxxx/dashboard/poker_tour_tickets/register/xxxxx
if you paste this into your browser with the id of a 2seat gtd you will exchange a step1 ticket for this entry...

i haven't tried this enough to know which ones you can or can't enter but it works 100% for 2seat dailys


you can find tournament ids in the pokerlobby