Topic: BetInAsia BLACK Sports Trading Platform - Best odds & Highest Liquidity (Read 1148 times)

Hi xMarcel,

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Hello, BetInAsia!


Here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56141338), you mention that residents of UK, USA, France, Sweden, Netherlands, Turkey, Singapore, and North Korea are unable to use BetInAsia service due to your license requirements.


However, you might know that Betfair has its own restrictions too.
Let me explain how it looks in practice.
For instance, we have two persons: one person is resident of Czech Republic and the other is resident of Spain.
Both can register at bet-broker and get access to the Black platform.
But once they login to Black and select the event the picture may look like:
https://imgur.com/XbLCd6j

That means the residents of Spain are unable to place bets on Betfair via Mollybet, because Betfair themselves impose these restrictions on all residents of Spain.


btw, BETDAQ and Matchbook impose their own country-restriction as well.


So please clarify, residents of which countries are unable to place bets on Betfair via Black platform?

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Hi everyone,

Thank you for all the questions and the discussion opened.
The website is the same but the UI/UX was improved and we implemented more professional account management for our players can easily use all of our products and services. By registering on the https://betinasia.com/ website you will have one central Portal account that will integrate all payments, kyc, transaction history, and of course your betting accounts. From the BetInAsia Portal, you can make E-wallet, credit cards, Bank and Crypto deposits, and withdrawals from one place. You can for example make transfers from your BetInAsia BLACK to your Orbit Exchange account from the Portal.

Also, you do not need to complete KYC for you to use our test-demo accounts once you register. All the login details for the test accounts are visible and available from the Portal account. We strongly encourage you to check them out to decide your further actions. But to open a real account you will need to complete the KYC procedure as part of the compliance regulations. KYC is needed to stop and prevent manipulation and provide trust between both parties. Players benefit from their account being verified because there are examples of services that can withhold payment on verification excuses. Regarding restrictions, players from UK, USA, France, Sweden, Turkey, Singapore and North Korea cannot use our services due to BetinAsia license requirements.

As some of you mentioned Orbit Exchange, yes we provide OrbitX accounts at BetInAsia. OrbitX is a Betfair Exchange white-label with the same markets and liquidity. The commission is 3% on the winning bets. As pointed out there is no API or software integration. But the design and functionality make it a really valuable product.

Thank you.

So this casino will not require any KYC to withdrawals as long as the it is not a huge amount or a winning coming from the Jackpots. I tried looking for the FAQ page so I can get some useful information especially the KYC requirements or the information about their licenses if they have some.

I visited their terms and I see that they are licensed to conduct online gaming operations base on Curacao license so I will not be surprise if they will require KYC in their casino platform.

Checked the website.
Loved the color combination.
But it's sad that before giving a try to the game, we need to complete pur Registration in order to get inside the site.
Many Gamblers including me don't like when we are unable to see the features of the site before Registration.
Moreover as you mentioned that KYC is mandatory, then i can guarantee you that, this will surely reduce your site's traffic by 20% as many people don't like sharing their personal info online.
Moreover some sort of Promotions can surely help you out to catch high roller Gamblers.
Nevertheless Best of luck with your business.

Because Betfair is geo-restricted in gazillions of countries; the exchange that is. So only option for these people, like me, is to go via an agent and use Orbit. You have the same liquidity, odds and everything else. It's just missing an API to use trading software, which is a big disadvantage and you have to adapt to it. And then Orbit - and other WLE's in the past - have their own way of making some extra bucks, which is a bit risky and explained here.

As far as I know not everyons is required to process a KYC form in order to play and withdraw their balances on their account.
I guess most legitimate and reputable online casinos are doing this, where they only require kyc forms for those jackpots and huge withdrawals.
But yeah, I think it still depends on the casino, that's why I make sure that I'll be allowed to withdraw without the need of kyc before playing on their site.

What is Orbit's reputation like? I don't see why people would play at Orbit when Betfair is much, much bigger. isn't Orbit some kind of Betfair clone or do they use Betfair's api?
Trust is the most important thing for a broker, if you are just starting out it is quite difficult. Can only be obtained by processing withdrawals quickly.

You might have misunderstood the function of regulators. Regulators in China does not have a power over the USA gambling site if that USA gambling site will accept Chines gamblers, regulators from China can't request or demand an information from a certain gambling site regulated in USA.

That's my point, we don't have a universal regulators where such organization  or agency has power to regulate every gambling sites regardless of where it's operated, hopefully my point is clear and understandable.

An example, gambling is illegal in China while it's not in USA, if we have one regulator, there should be one universal law to be implemented.

It seems the site need to use VPN to visit for some countries because I can not visit my IP
I can access the website from my mobile phones without any problem, and I like the website's design.
With the requirement to do KYC, I think that will not be good for the crypto user because many crypto users will not join the gambling site, which has KYC.
They will prefer to use the gambling site, which doesn't require KYC because they don't want to send any verification document.
Maybe you can use KYC for the member who wins 0.1 bitcoin or deposit the money for more than $500-$1k, so you can know your customer.
But I don't try to register on your site, and maybe I will do it later.

ha wat? site registered in x country dont contradict to the regulators because the gambling site was still online and anyone can access it anywhere they are in this planet or the site themselves are the one that will send the details to the regulators .

 kyc isnt applied only to some country but if a website ask kyc all gamblers are not exempted in that rule and kyc can be a gamblers protection because tax evasion is a against the law .

 not just gamblers but it also protect the site or the owners of it because they can be tagged as illegal if they wont follow that

I don't think this applies to everyone of us, I have not use this platform yet but if their gamblers are coming from different countries, then how does our country's regulators be able to get an information from the site when the site is registered in a different counry?

Platform killer for us at least. Notice how most casinos thriving here don't enforce KYC upon sign up. Yeah, it builds trust in a way that players will have to trust you not to do anything bad with their personal information.

How does a platform holding your personal information about player protection? If I'm not mistaken, regulators wanted all these information because they want every player to pay their taxes correctly and make sure they don't launder money. It's for control and not protection.

Great to know that you offers multi booking on your platform and have gone through the website it real cool any way but just to get two things clear here, is it that your platform was on old website before and now moved to a new one now and if yes can you please outline the new update that player's will have on the new platform.

Hi everyone,

First of all, thank you for the really valuable feedback on this BetInAsia BLACK thread. We have addressed many of the topics raised and updated our UI to meet the exclusive betting service that we offer.

You can visit https://betinasia.com/ to Register to our new central all in one Portal account where you can manage your payment, kyc, transaction history, and test/ demo accounts to all the products we offer, including BetInAsia BLACK.

You will still use https://black.betinasia.com/ as your Login window to your BLACK account. The KYC procedure is part of the license regulations that we, as a provider, must comply with before we open the account or provide payment. This relationship builds legitimacy and trust between both parties.

We are crypto-friendly, and we have BTC as a default payment option, but we can assist you with Ripple or Litecoin for faster transaction times.
For more info, you can check https://betinasia.zendesk.com/hc/en-us to find more details about our service.

Thank you.

It's also a disadvantage if the casino doesn't require KYC for sure they are not licensed and you can't file a case to them if they manage to cause a problem to you but there are some casinos that have license but doesn't require KYC anyways KYC is not just for asking privacy it is also for the players protection.

Most of the gamblers really hate KYC requirement but most of the genuine casinos who have a license are forced to require a KYC in order to follow the requirements in their licenses.

This is the problem if the governments are involved or a certain casinos who wants to operate legally. The customers or gamblers are in the disadvantage as they can't play without submitting their KYC's.

Well in short KYC really is not good in online casino but we can't blame them for following the rules on their license.

Currently there is same policy for the crypto user and the fiat users. If they relax the KYC for the crypto users, the fiat users will not feel good about it or maybe they will shift to crypto where there is ease in the deposits and withdrawals.

Yeah maybe if they could exclude users who will only use cryptocurerncy or maybe conduct some basic KYC such as asking for number and email address and for the crypto users only and for users who will use fiat then they could ask them for the KYC including valid ID.

The design of your platform is not that bad but I suggest that you will change your font for your text so it can be read easily or you can just bold it a little.  Also, I will be hoping that you will open your door to more crypto options for your deposit and withdrawal function as I see that you are only accepting bitcoin as of this moment and the rest are more on fiat.

Yes, they have a very strict KYC and we are not used to such policies and procedures. Many people including myself will not deposit and bet on the BetInAsia site because of this requirement.

It seems you've inactive for a long time I visited your website and I look through your terms and services sadly to find you are requiring players to provide KYC but may I ask if you have new account promotions?

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Hi @game-protect, BetInAsia is a betting brokerage, so you would be betting with the Asian bookies and exchanges through us. We are handling your accounts, payments, support, etc. but the offered odds and bet settlement depend on the specific bookie you bet with, via BetinAsia.

Please reach out to us via email if you have any questions [email protected]. Thanks

Who is the operator?

Even i think the same its such a basic HTMl template you have to make complete change in your UX design also Gambling site much of like attracting people . Initial page or landing page only shows the effort of team. Its just my concern.

Hi,

Thank you for feedback. Right now, the only way to see inside Black before the deposit is a test account. However, we are looking to improve that in the near future and you will be able to get a real account when you register.

Cheers,
BetInAsia

I would like to know if you have future plans to get verified accounts to operate without having to make deposits, the platform environment is very friendly, has a very understandable structure and it is seen that it has taken a lot of work in development, both in design and blockchain.

For new accounts, or users who want to try the platform, could you provide facilities with the condition that they become VIP users? Where it is guaranteed that you will enter paying the promotion, is that in reality, many people are not going to pay at once for the security issue, because many are careful not to pass some bad play due to bad experiences already lived .

That will be my question too


I think other people will give the same response because we cannot get a real account before we deposit some money to them.
That will be tough for them to get members to come to their website because they use a different for a member to access their site.
I hope they will consider making another way to get the account before depositing the money so we could try the site and give a review to them.

That is too bad on the team requiring deposits before gaining access to your log in details, I sincerely love the features the team outline on the post and I was prompted to try the site out but it all turn out discouraging as I can make deposits of such high minimum amount of first deposits even without any bonus.

Why make things so complicated here?
This is my first time seeing a gambling website asking you to deposit first before giving you your login details so you can truly play.
I assume you will not get much players here. The trust factor has a major role in getting your players.


And with relatively high deposit amount, I wonder how many players they will get from the community.

Thank you for clarifying so many questions around here.
Now we got an explanation from you which will help us to understand how to login into our Black account.
Maybe you need to lower the minimum deposit amount so we could try to send it into our account and start playing the game and who knows, with lowering the deposit amount, it will attract more player to visit in your site.
But that is just a suggestion, and if you don't want to lower, then it's fine for us.

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BetInAsia

I visited your site. In my opinion, the initial page display is too simple because there we find only a login page without any prior explanation about your site so people who want to register don't seem too interested because there is no information related to your site on the start page.

Nope I don't think that they already abandoned their project OP still post on this thread.

But like the other member of this forum I suggest that they fix their design and make a home page on their website .
I think there wouldn't be a gambler who would try this site cause it seem's undeveloped and unprofessional .
They could have made a home page where we could see what kind of games or sport do they hold on their betting site.

I think  the developer of the site has left the project due to lack of interest of the people. He might have thought that many people will still come to his underdeveloped site but seeing no positive response , he might have stop / delayed the development of his site.

Most of people usually looking around the new site and giving their opinion regarding site layout or similar of it but how do i see your site for full page because recently i was visiting the site and only sign in page available without sign up option for new players and i didn't see anything else besides that

How do you locate the account creation features because I just visited the site but the only option is log in but no registration, and the team should work on allowing visitors to the site into the first page where one can access the platform features and game's before registering. And how do the team able to migrate old members from they old site to the new platform will is the log in details going to be email to them, the platform really need improvement on the graphic designs.

Is there any update regarding the design of your site because I read some comment that complaining on your website. I also visited the site and its look cheap dont be hurt but this is the reality.


This is what OP need to improve because people wanta good design or something new in their eyes not ordinary or even unattracted design, thats a reason I dont want to register on their site.

Hi All,

Website black.betinasia.com is a place where you login into your Black account. To open an account, visit our site betinasia.com and choose Black. You will receive an email from our support with login details and how to deposit.

First impression is the last impression. No one will visit this site again if they will see such a dull page in the beginning. I think it is time that OP bring up with some interactive layout of his site.

How exactly is the layout good? Its just a generic signup page and nothing flashy. First impressions of this website are pretty bad in my opinion and I would not consider investing here unless op redesigns this website from the ground up.

Well site took some time to load. Is it working ok?

Then the Account creation pop up is very bad, sometimes add block blocks it and we can't see it. Also makes it look like a "scam" site.
You should maybe make it to the site or some specific place.

Overall loved the layout in every other aspect.

..upon opening the site you mention,,only the login window appear..no signup button..where is the link to your old site so that i can register?..first impression bad appearance..I would recommend that you should improve more your new site so that many gamblers would appreciate it..

I kinda liked the design Haunebu, very simple and not much colors, just the way I like.. but these reviews really can hit their business as a hammer.. a heavy hammer

Never heard of this website before which is why I decided to check it out. Pretty bad website design and bad UI in my opinion. Decided to google it and checked out some reviews which turned out to be unfavorable. Check these:

https://forum.bettingadvice.com/forum/bookmakers/bookmaker-discussions/106363-?t=104087

https://www.bookmakersreview.com/forum/bookmakers/20601-betinasia-asiakingbet-review

Is the site supposed to be like that ? No signup whatsoever ? The new site looks way off compared to the main site. Anyway , we are supposed to register here https://betinasia.com/open-account/ ? Then transfer here https://black.betinasia.com/login ?


You have to improve the IU of the new site. It doesnt look attractive enough

I will literally stay away from this kind of site that requires a high minimum, I don't even heard this site before.
I guess i just have to stick with my current sporsbook, the minimum is less than $10 and the withdrawal is instant, I don't see any advantage playing
in this site compared to the popular sportsbook in crypto that I used to.

I think most of the gambling sites that are giving or offering welcome bonuses to new accounts only and because of it more gamblers will play in their site but don't forget that even if the gambling site is successful starting from it's launching until now doesn't mean there's no problem in their site like some gamblers having problem withdrawing his/her winnings while other players of the same gambling site withdraw his/her winnings fast and smooth. IMO, the site's design when your going to log in is great when accessing on mobile but when not using mobile is worst refer to abyansarif's feedback about the site design.

I don't know they plan to offer welcome bonuses in their site as I did not register and fully explore the website. It will be good to offer welcome bonuses then more gamblers will be attracted to this site because of it's offered welcome bonuses for new accounts only and it will help promote the project and be known worldwide especially gamblers.

Waiting for legit feedbacks about this site is a good idea to increase your knowledge about that site if it is reputable or not scam. The log in form doesn't look good and I think won't give the site a good feedback because of it. I don't know why choose that kind pf design for the log in form which is not good to start with.

Wait, How do I even register for it?   Is it only for old users? Unable to find Register button so that I could test it out.
Edit: Just noticed some of the previous comments and found a link to register. KYC needed :/ I'll probably wait this one out until loads of legit user reviews are in.

This is the worst way to introduce a betting website, What should I do with a display like this, though I know you want a positive feedback.

I just registered on this site and it seems so good and smooth to use, I liked the logo of the site and also the design is pretty good, maybe it needs some improvement but even like that is okay.
I didn't try to withdraw from this site, but it will be good if it's automatically, so we can withdraw at the time that we want.

just registered nice interface mate it's smooth

Yup, they sure required so many personal information but you can choose to not put it in, I even notice that there are skype ID in it as well, But despite this, you can sure ignore all of this and proceed to step 2 where they will provide you with an activation code,

In my opinion, I think if you like to be on the anonymous side of gambling you should consider not making an account in it or ignore the possibility of your safety because I think they provide such personal information because they are requiring KYC legitimate players.

Are you serious you have just registered on the site with so many personal details required?
Looking at the FAQ page it is informed that minimum deposit is €100, will you spend or risk such amount just for trying and giving feedback?


I did experienced the same, no sign up button but then I find it on the main site so I think you can create an account on this link https://betinasia.com/open-account/

Registerd in your site, and till now the experience is normal.
The UI is pretty decent and I really liked it.
Are the withdrawls automatic or you process them manually? As i haven't tried the site yet but surely try it.
Will update my feedback very soon.

Opened your website and I can even register on it. Just login window on the main page and nothing more.

regarding btc withdrawals , do you process them instantly after submitting the request or is there any delay ?
also can you can consider lowering your fees for withdrawals ? 2% is a lot IMO and the max I found in brokers who take bitcoin is 1% fee

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