Topic: Betkurus.com - world's most advanced bitcoin sportsbook and casino (Read 5265 times)

We collect documents confirming personal data to ensure that our Clients’ money is safe. We understand that there are customers who do not wish to share their details and it is their own choice if they prefer to bet with unregulated operators which do not require ID verification.

Above listed competitors are not licensed under any jurisdiction and they are not obliged by the regulator to collect KYC data. Betkurus.com, currently the only licensed Bitcoin sportsbook, follows strict rules to comply with regulator's AML policy and therefore provides legal betting to its customers.   

Yes agreed with you that is really strange to put document to any unknown person just to do gambling when we have so many choices than that kind of condition will get them into trouble and many people will avoid it to place betting.

Util you require user identity verification nobody care what you do.
(if nitrogen/betcoin/cloudbet/anonibet/directbet can operate without identity verification then you also would be able but you dont want to.)

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Hi,

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Both offers are available to new and all existing clients of our website.

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We have a hot summer offer for all bitcoin clients – 25% Free bet on all bitcoin deposits!

Free Bet must be wagered just once at a price of 1.70 or higher to convert into real money.

This promo can be combined with our standard 7.5% no-rollover bonus on each BTC deposit.

If you have any inquiries, please contact our CS team at support[at]betkurus.com for more info.


Betkurus Marketing Team

actually i had send an email to the payments team ..

"Payments Betkuruş <[email protected]>
   
May 29 (3 days ago)
      
to me
10btc request is being processed now. Expect the coins in your wallet within an hour.

You will be available for another 10btc withdrawal tomorrow morning.

Regards,
Steven"


This is the email reply i received when i had sent an email withdrawal request to them.


Moreover i have no incentive to lie .

They gave me a 50% deposit bonus too..

I had posted a comment on the forum just out of courtesy to them.

 same question here pliss proff ur tx, because i like try this using my mobile site ( in my country most of betting site cant be open using pc or others method else except  using mobile)

did you can post some proof or screen shot for make us know you not lie what you said

I have had no problem with them when I was trying to withdraw 10Btc .. It was with me in the next hour.. 

Excellent live betting .. Only small problem seems to be the wagering limits on ITF and challenger tennis matches which seems to be quite low around 0.2 to 0.3 Btc.. If they can increase the betting limits on par with say betvictor and paddypower for low level tennis tournaments .. It will definitely  be the best in the Bitcoin space as the other Bitcoin  books like cloudbet , nitrogen sports ,anonibet don't have good enough live betting interface.

You can copy it while using mozilla but not chrome for me

and I think this is enough with the Term and Conditions issue, since i found this which is their rights to do so and they are not violating or responsible for that


and also this


So this will be the fact according to me, the player submitted a  false document to register at the site, he played and won, and Betkurus appears to be doing some check when the user withdrawed and found that the user are playing from some banned countries, this result in the termination of the account as stated on the terms and condition

You can easily copy and paste our T&C as shown below. If you are still experiencing difficulties, using different browser would help.

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Betkurus General Terms&Conditions does not alter from any other licensed sportsbook. I believe , ctlaltdefeat, that you have been a member of some of these operators throughout the years and have become familiar with their general rules. You should not expect any major difference here, so if you have read T&C of licensed sportsbook somewhere else you already have the full picture about us too.

It is well-known fact that online wagering is strictly forbidden in USA, and this is not since last year or the year before. For 6 months of operations Betkurus have had just this single case, among a few thousand active users, of a customer playing from country included in our restricted list. Here I would take the opportunity to clarify that we are welcoming new registrations from worldwide destinations every day, however anyone should be aware that we can not put at risk the license of the company by paying to customers residing in USA.

Are you sure? IF that is the case it is seriously fucked up. I did not read Terms and Conditions because it is simply too much of a hassle. And it seems that you can't even copy text from the site...

In what reality is it reasonable to play at a bitcoin sportsbook that confiscates all your funds if you happened to not read the entire Terms and Conditions?

Hey guys, it's your choice where to play.
We never claimed Betkurus is perfect. We claim Betkurus is world's most advanced bitcoin sportsbook. We offer broader range of bets than all bitcoin sportsbooks. Thank to our 7.5% reload bonus (without additional rollover requiements) our customers receive best value.

@sbrzol, we allow registrations worldwide as customers can play for free on many of our casino games. However, it is not our fault if any customer hasn't read T&C or intentionally breached them. And last but not least ... please remember: Ignorantia legis neminem excusat!

@Karartma1, so called "Secret Security Team" works with publicly available rules - Terms&Conditions published on Betkurus.com. 

It is so simple. Customers must comply with our Terms of service.

Yes it is , I agree, but it is also your responsibility to check up each user, as each user submit a document, which of course you can verify if it is fake or real document, but in the end , after the user won, you withheld his withdrawal, I think this will be another cases if the user lost, but since he won, this issue is up to the surface since you blocked his withdrawal

Me too. I will never register to your site.  

As i see you allow everybody to register and deposit to your site and and after somebody try to withdrawal its funds you close his account if he is from a restricted county and you keep all his funds.   You should not allow deposits until the user send his documents. But of course it is free money for you if somebody going into your trap.

Well, in that case I wouldn't use your site and wouldn't recommend it to anybody. Why would somebody use a site when it's possible to get banned by Secret Security Team?
There are better places to bet with Bitcoin. -without a secret security team of course-
Good luck to you, you will need it. You lost a lot of potential customers in this thread with your bad marketing technique.

It is part of responsibilities of our Security Team to detect customers using/trying to use our services from restricted locations.

Okay, I will enlighten you .... point of consumption is important. If it is in blacklisted country, customer will have his account closed and all winnings from his activity there seized. How our Security team reveals point of consumption is something I will not comment here.

Just wanted to share one main principle in law - Ignorantia legis neminem excusat. It is customer's responsibility to read carefully our Terms&Conditions.

Wait, are you telling that they provide fake documents? If that's the case you are right.
But if it's real documents then what's the problem here? You are ok with KYC rules, so you shouldn't ban them for using proxies. How do you know they live in blacklisted countries when they already provide you real documents in whitelisted country? Your message brought more confusion here. Please enlighten us.

Hey guys, we really appreciate your opinions. However, there are customers who provide documents proving their residence in white listed country but actually they live and play (using proxies/VPNs) from black listed countries. We will continue to show zero tolerance to these customers.

Betkurus is committed to sustainability of bitcoin gaming. We are here to stay and will not undermine this industry.

You are right about that. Both parties share fault. Betkurus should pay back only deposited money and ban user from their site. They should be more careful next time. They can put a bigger warning about banned countries.

Not really a sole fault from the user, since there is a verification before someone can play at betkurus, I think betkurus should block the person, the moment they see that the person is from the country that violated their TOS, but To withhold all balance is indeed in the TOS if a user violated it, so they got a point, but still betkurus is responsible as well

Did you check this OP's first line?
What does it say?

"We invite everyone in world".
When someone win a lot money they say;
"Sorry dude, we wrote that in TOS very small, you can't play with us because you're from X".

That's why those shitters are SOB and scammer garbage. They have to pay the customers winning.

Betkurus is right about this situation. The user violated their TOS. It's users own fault deposit BTC without reading TOS.

Betkurus should pay back deposited BTC. Even the user violated TOS, they can't hold his funds.

End of story.

Go to Hell betkurus. Dont cheat people. We know You in Turkish betting Forum at Bahisklavuz.com..Also You told him that you never get your money back.Turkish Costumers know how you are crook.I just want to say you fuck off.You are not allow to  provide Turkish players who resident in Turkey cause of Turkish Online Gambling Laws. But your %90 costumers from Turkey..Also you never informed him before making deposit about which countries restricted.I know this from turkish betting forum.






This is published at bahisklavuz.com/vbulletin turkish betting forum

Please accept our sincere apologies if any of our Turkish speaking colleagues answered you impolitely! Our QA team will take care of him.

However, I think you have to share the actual reason for your account suspension (as stated in an email sent to you). Otherwise, it will look like you joined BitcoinTalk with the sole intention to manipulate people here.

Did you receive any information from our Security team after your account had been suspended? If yes, we encourage you to share it here.

Obviously, underlined part can not be reason. However, playing from restricted territory (which listed there) can be.




You can able to see it on some turkish forums. People are talking on there.
There is no reason for me to talk with you who is answering messages impolitely.

Be honest and send his money but you are closed his account with his money.  Because You are scammer betkuruş.

from what I see from your site, your site need document verification, you can block the user if they are from that country, why do you let them play first and hold their withdrawal if they are from that country?   

Did you receive any information from our Security team after your account had been suspended? If yes, we encourage you to share it here.

Obviously, underlined part can not be reason. However, playing from restricted territory (which listed there) can be.

Can you show any proof if your account deleted and cannot reach your account?

By the way I'm not from any of these countries too.

Im not from any of that country so it will be fine for me, and it is your fault if you actually resident in that country but you play on this sites again, and show some proof of they dont allow you withdraw, this could be interesting

There is no reason to hide any account. Here is the answer they only could able to give...

Players are categorically barred from using funds originating from illegal and criminal activities.
Individuals residing in the USA AND ITS TERRITORIES, CARICOM TERRITORIES, BULGARIA, FRANCE AND IT’S TERRITORIES, HONG KONG, NETHERLANDS ANTILLES are prohibited from playing for real money on this site. It is the Player’s sole responsibility to check if his / her country of residence allows gambling.

the underlined part is their reason...

why do you hide with new account?  post this from your real account and also proof to this, if there is no proof to this , how can someone trust you? please put the proof of they dont allow withdrawal for you

Hello Eveyone,

Beaware of  this Scam site!!!

They do not allow to withdraw if you are a regular winner.

The reason why I am saying that because they allow you to make a deposit till you win and wanna make a withdraw.
When you wanted to make a withdraw, they are saying that you cannot make a withdraw because you are gamling a country from that you provided on your documents( the documents that you guys provide them for withdraw).

if one of yours wanna make a withdraw one day, you   will probably come across with the situation something like that and they will not make any payment to you by finding a reason. Lastly I'm pretty sure that they will call you as an scam !!!

Betkuruş support team are childs (15-17 age). They are high school student.


You are DONT TRUST THEM!!

Betkurus is comitted to fairplay. We will keep showing zero tolerance to all customers breaching our Terms & Conditions.
According to our Terms&Conditions (which must be accepted during registration process) playing from some terittories is not permited. Full list of restricted territories (USA, France, Hongkong etc) can be found under Paragraph 1.4 in our T&C.

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DO NOT TRUST THOSE SHIT SCAMMERS.
THEY'RE BEING IDIOT ON TURKISH SECTION AND INSULTING CUSTOMERS
ALSO REFUSING TO PAY CUSTORMERS WINNINGS (AROUND 640 USD - 1600 TRY)

We agree Betkurus is not best choice for customers who don't like to go through KYC procedure. However, we can't allow underage players on our site (for example). Our point of view is that main benefit of cryptocurrencies is their convenience.

this is not good, proof of identity isnt actually needed since we are using cryptocurrency which one of the benefit is anonimous, if we actually wanted to play with fiat that require our identity, there are other sites as well, but this is cryptocurrency, its about anonimous

Online gaming licensing in Curacao works on two levels: Limited number of licenses are issued to Master license holders (MLHs) and DigitalSport Enterainment is granted a sublicense from MLH. Technically MLHs are the organizations which monitor the legitimacy of licensed operators' activity.


That could not be true. Together with bitcoin deposits we offer to our customers the services of traditional payments providers which are listed at the bottom of our home page. All these providers conduct strict KYC procedure and require their partners to hold bank account in an EU-regulated bank institution. The presence of other payments solutions besides bitcoin is proof for existence of a bank account.


Information about company's management is public in the commercial register of Curacao.


Our license agreement obligates us, as operator, to collect proof if identity for every registered customer. In exchange, the license provides him back with a form of certainty the high-quality of our product and the fact that our services are trustworthy.

Can you give me a contact number (email, website) to  this organization?  



I want to know that your statement is true.  

Why should i give my identity/address data to a noname bookmaker, that has no bank account and nothing, so if the bookmaker disappears not only our money lost but they could use our identity/address data for illegal activity.

We do not know nothing about the people behind this site, they could disappear any time and we do not know even their names , but they will know where we live and all our important data.

So if you shared one of your bitcoin address here , they can/will track you,  they will know/calculate how many bitcoins do you have.  
If they know that you have for example more than 500 Btc and they know your address (and the site main focus behind the scene is only for collecting identity/address data paired with bitcoin addresses) try to imagine the next step?  

Thanks for your replies!

I am really sorry for inconvinience caused. I will open ticket now and hopefully we will have this issue resolved soon.

Unfortunately we do not offer anonymous accounts. We will be glad to offer them once legal framework in our jurisdiction allows.

Our view is that crypto is supposed to be convenient (fast, cheap etc). Anonimity is just current advantage of crypto which will decline with the rise of regulation.

loaded by defaults? the site loaded as turkish for me and I need to manually change it to english, not a big issue anyway, but some user may have trouble to actually find how to translate it into english, perhaps you could add  some symbol like flag on top corner to ease people to switch language to either english or turkish if they need to

We have working English version and it should be loaded by default. If you have any issues accessing it, please drop us a line.

On top right corner, you will see a setting button, next to it there is TR> means turkish, you can click on that and change it into English, or another option is to use google chrome for its auto translation

where can we change the language to english?
i dont understand turkish

Do you have anonymous accounts also or if not are you planning to have them like other bitcoin books?

You need to verify yourself on the site before you can cashout?
I don't think people will like it as crypto is supposed to be anonymous.

Our KYC policy has 2 components - identity and address. We verify identity through any state-issued Photo ID and address - any utility bill/bank statement not older than 3 months.

adog, KYC procedure should not scary you if you meet some requirements - you are over 18 and you don't play from restricted territory. Verification process is really quick and simple and we never ask for hard-to-be-found documents (like Birth certificates  trying to avoid or delay cashouts.

Which documents do you request for KYC?

Hey Karartma1, thank you for your question.
We are obliged to apply AML/KYC policies due to our license. However, personal data is considered strictly confidential.

Why should people play at Betkurus?
1. We always have more pre-match and in-play events than our bitcoin-only competitors. One challenge for you ... if you catch us in any single moment that they (one of them) have more in-running events than Betkurus and upload a screenshot here, we will give you 20$ Free bet 

2. Betkurus offers best value to its customers. We add 7.5% reload bonus (no rollover required) to all customers who make bitcoin deposits. It means that if you deposit and bet with us on 50/50 market at odd 1.85, house edge is under 1.2%

3. As we mentioned in a previous post risk of scam is considerably higher if playing on similar sites. I will leave you guessing why!?

If you have any other questions or concerns, please ask us with no hesitation

Your Betkurus Support Team

Hey mate, this is just a matter of time. Our live video coverage will be increased significantly in coming weeks.

Most people don't use your site because you want us to give our personal info. I know this is a must for KYC regulation but why people use registered sites when the market has a great anonymous sportbook like DirectBet?

Live streaming part is really cool.!! please increase the games streaming field like the one bet365 has..n I promise u that I will always be on your site.. gambling.!

Dear friends,

We offer live video streaming on El Clasico tonight!

We allow our customers to maximize their video screen. You can watch even on TV as it is streamed with very good quality.

Thank you for your questions. I can answer with no hesitation to all of them. I understand that there is a lot of scam sites today, especially in bitcoin industry, and therefore such questions are normal

People behind Betkurus haven't been majority owners of any other gaming site before but they were on senior management positions with some of biggest names in the online gambling industry (one of these companies is still PLC). You can be confident BETKURUS is not a scam. Scam can be every not licensed bitcoin site whose owners' real names are not required anywhere.

Our site is online since October 2014 (you can check in google for more info if you are interested in). We already have a thread in Turkish part of bitcointalk forum (created in last December).

A few questions:

Have you owned any previous sites?
Do you have any background information?
How long has your site up been before thread creation?

The reason why I ask this, is it is quite unusual for new casino's to arise in this day and age due to the bitcoin price being a lot higher than it was when the gambling industry was first introduced.

Hopefully you can answer these questions without issue, it'll be hard trusting your site if there is no info about you or any background info on your site.

Place a pre-match bet on El Clásico with Betkuruş and if you lose get your stake back in full as Free Bet, no questions asked, and if you happen to win, well simply withdraw your profit. It truly is a win - win situation.



Free bet offer T&C
1. This offer applies to Match Result (3way) bets only placed on the FC Barcelona v Real Madrid match, played on Sunday, 22nd March 2015.
2. Risk free bet value will be equal to the stake of your largest losing pre-match single bet placed on the Match result market (3 way), up to a maximum of 20 USD /7.70 cBTC or currency equivalent.
3. Note that 'pre-match' is defined as bets placed prior to kick-off of the El Clasico game.
4. Your Free bet will be credited to your account within 12 hours after the final whistle of El Clasico game.
5. You must place your Free bet at odds 1.70 or higher. In accumulator bets all selections must be at odds 1.70 or higher.
6.  All Betkuruş offers are intended for recreational players and Betkurus may in its sole discretion limit the eligibility of customers to participate in all or part of any promotion.

1. 32.5% Reload bonus consists of 2 parts:
We add 7.5% on all bitcoin deposits as we aim to cover player's costs associated with their bitcoin deposit. This amount is credited automatically and we don't require any additional rollover. As per our T&C we require entire deposit amount to be played at 1.30 or higher before withdrawal. Same is valid for these 7.5%
We are currently offering 25% on all bitcoin deposits. This promo is valid till 31 March. Bonus is calculated on base amount (without 7.50%). We require this bonus to be played 5 times on odds 1.7 or higher before withdrawal. In accumulator bets all selections must be at odds 1.7 or higher.

Here is how your account will look like if you deposit 100 currency units


2. Betkurus was launched in October 2014 and it has been always considered bitcoin project. However, we decided to integrate another payment methods as well instead being bitcoin-only as this is the ONLY way to show (and explain to) people how convenient (and revolutionary) bitcoin is. Betkurus was Turkish-facing site only. However, due to big demand we added English-speaking support team and we accept players worldwide now (except USA and few other countries listed in our T&C).

3. Of course, we even encourage our players to cash out using bitcoin instead bank transfers, ewallets etc.

What is the rollover requirement?

Was the casino already existing and just started accepting bitcoins or was it already there with bitcoins? or was it relaunced?

Withdrawals can be done in bitcoin, right?

jackringer, thank you for kind review.

Just FYI - we replaced our regular No-Lose offer with an additional Bonus for all reloads. All conditions are published on our site but it seems like we have some tech issues and CMS is down now. Check in 30-40 minutes if you are interested in.

Our development team works on this feature and it will be released in near future.
It is really amazing tool for players. I have tested recently and was really happy to see it has both full and partial cashout options.

Cool
Your limit is quite high even for non high-profile event.
Many of your competitors only have 1 btc limit for lower profile events.

Our limits depend on the game, customer, market etc. Below are 2 examples from a new account.
First picture contains a game running currently. It is Russian Premier League game which is not high-profile event. We allow 617.29 USD (2.38 BTC).
On 2nd picture you can see a game from one of TOP leagues - English Premiership. We allow 6223 USD (almost 24 BTC).
For VIP players our trading team can increase stake factors significantly.

Do u have cashout option on the game u have already bet? most of the big sportsbooks have it! please offer it if u can.

Betkurus offers many betting events especially live betting.
There are not many sportsbook offering many live events.
btw, what is your maximum bet limit for your sportsbook?

Trusted Sportbook. Costumer service is very helpful and they offer freebet promotion for some major league matches. I got my winnings always in 24 hours. It takes max 1 hour if you request payout in daytime.

Some Turkish Players reported scam about this site in other Forums.

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We are pleased to announce Betkurus, one of the first few licensed bitcoin sportsbooks, accepts clients worldwide now. The website specializes exclusively in In-play betting. 
Launched in October 2014 and operated by Curacao-based company DigitalSport Entertainment, betkurus.com provides new generation In-play experience offering live video streaming for more than 10 types of sport. We cover more than 18,000 In-play events every month, far beyond every other Bitcoin operator.

Some of our distinguished In-play features are:

• Over 500 In-play events daily – more than any other bitcoin sportsbook in every single moment
• Live video streaming with over 50 games daily from European and US top watched leagues – English Premier League, Spanish La Liga, Bundesliga, NBA, NHL etc.
• 90% of the In-play events allow you to bet on 100+ markets. Each 2-way market is offered at 7.5% margin or less.

Except state of art In-play product, our gaming facilities include full-spectrum pre-game sportsbook, live casino and binary options trading room.

Betkurus.com has recently integrated revolutionary bitcoin-to-fiat deposit platform through a partnership with Hong Kong payments provider CoinMatrix. Platform converts BTC into fiat in real time allowing customers to bet in the currency of their choice, not only in BTC as it is with all other bitcoin operators.
We have done as our observations showed that playing in cryptocurrency is still not widely accepted by the bulk of players, majority of whom are still used to wager specific amounts in their national currencies. With this new software we will give you the opportunity to enjoy the easiness of bitcoin deposit, while still keeping your wallet in EUR or USD.

Revolutionary Bitcoin-to-fiat deposit platform offers:

• Instant deposits, zero confirmations
• Conversion to fiat currency at fair rate, no commission.
• 7.5% automatic bitcoin deposit add-on to stimulate bitcoin payments in front of other deposit methods we offer.
• Withdrawals within 30 minutes.

Our minimum amount for bitcoin deposits is set to 1 cBTC/EUR/USD/TRY.

Online activity of the website is subject to license by the Government of Curacao which does not permit players from USA and its territories. It is players’ responsibility to ensure that they are complying with all legal requirements in their own country.

Bonuses

50% Sign-up Bonus
Betkurus give you opportunity to kick off your bitcoin sports betting experience with 50% Sign Up bonus, up to 20cBTC/50EUR or currency equivalent. This offer is valid for all new customers who open an account before 1st May 2015. We require bonus amount to be played 8 times at odd 1.4 or higher before withdrawal. All conditions can be found on our homepage.

20 EUR Refer-a-Friend Bonus
You can recommend Betkurus to your friends about and earn yourself 10cBTC/20EUR (or equivalent) for every reffered customer who signs-up and deposits at least 25cBTC (or equivalent). Referring friends is easy, they just need to enter your Customer ID or username as Promo Code upon registration. Your friends will be still entitled to get our Sign-up bonus.
Even easier way to refer friends is to send them a link and they join us through this link http://betkurus.com/?btag=ABCDEF (where ABCDEF is replaced by your Customer ID or username). Your details will be automatically entered as PromoCode and it will be more convenient for you to share with more people.
If you refer 10 friends, you win our special prize – original t-shirt of your favorite sports team. We will ship your gift to your verified address worldwide (except USA and its territories).

Affiliate Program
We have designed affiliate program which can be very lucrative for many of you who can drive quality traffic to our website. A fixed amount of 15EUR / 6cBTC is paid for every new client who registers and deposits at least 50EUR/20cBTC (or equivalent) + revenue share as below:

• Up to 20BTC / 5k EUR – 25%
• Between 20BTC/5K EUR and 100 BTC/25K EUR – 30%
• Over 100BTC/25K EUR – 35%

We follow No Negative carryover Policy and have zero tolerance to all fraud attempts.
For more details please ask us at affiliates[at]betkurus.com

We would be happy to hear your thoughts, questions and feedback here.