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Quote from: sayaya17 on March 11, 2021, 04:25:58 PM

Yeah, the price of bitcoin has increased steadily and naturally with some corrections, because besides that there are also some people who
want to cash in fiat for their profit. But with these conditions, bitcoin is more stable and grows normally. The adoption of bitcoin is getting
stronger and people are getting more confident that in 2020 until now, bitcoin differs from 2018, where there are still many weak hands.
Now they're getting stronger.

This is natural, there are withdrawal and deposit flows, as long as the deposit flow is greater than the withdrawal flow then the bullish 2021 will be fine. Yes, this year's bullish is very different from the 2021 bullish, now many large companies are starting to see bitcoin as a future asset, I am sure that in 10 years bitcoin will be the most expensive future asset in the world.

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Unlike 2017, we have a lot of retail investors which really helped the growth of the market since the bull-market started. With every correction, they buy crypto back to be held as a hedge fund. Even investors nowadays are wiser, unlike in 2017, only projects with real use case grows along with side bitcoin, leaving out hype projects. The bull-market will be longer than as it was, we might no even see crypto as low as its price was back a few years ago.

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Quote from: raji1995naya on March 06, 2021, 05:51:23 PM

According to my knowledge and view bull market for ALTS in other words ALT season still not started. Compare 2017 charts and 2021 charts. Just little pumps happen at the end of 2020 and beginning of the 2021. Major pumps are still checking people's patience. It will give profits to traders who have patience and knowledge. Every trader cannot gain profit from crypto.

l do agree with your opinion on that person who has the knowledge and enough experiences, they always will gain. That is why both of them play an important role in this world, money is not all. l think also that the bull market for altcoins has not started, indeed altcoins like ETH and others have shown the best result at the beginning of this year. Maybe they will increase till the end of 2021. However it will happen soon or late, it depends on our patience. If we can be enough patient and wait till the right day, we can make great money from our investment. Just make research and choose the right coin for getting profit, it is so necessary because there are a lot of projects and not all of them are successful. We should find projects which have more potential to be the best in the future.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

yes, the current bullish trends is very different with the past bull
and maybe we will see bitcoin price touch about $100K in this year, if a lot of good news still coming in crypto industry my friend
of course the impact will go to altcoins, wich mean altcoins will be in green colour too

The last bullrun was fake and that is the reason why the price has been pushed back to the $54k level. Maybe in few months, bulls will attack back to the resistance levels above $65k and with the right trading volume the sellers will be liquidated, the sellers will also join the bull trend and bingo. The new ATH price will be above $90k surely.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

yes, the current bullish trends is very different with the past bull
and maybe we will see bitcoin price touch about $100K in this year, if a lot of good news still coming in crypto industry my friend
of course the impact will go to altcoins, wich mean altcoins will be in green colour too

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Now the crypto space is a platform for making big money, this is a huge opportunity for real growth and self-education.

Only if invested properly and with basic knowledge about it. Because there are still people that believes on the overnight success of being in the crypto because of many traders and investors sharing their successful journey. And that makes other people think that it's just an easy going market as they enter. The opportunity is there but the actual growth of the investor that will get in depends on his purpose and outlook to the market.

No doubt that majority of people that do jump into this market do mostly mind off about making easy profits or making themselves rich when they get engage into this place

but sooner or later these people will realize on how hard on doing such thing.Those things that they had watched or seen about making big profits are just the face of success after a very long pile of failures.

They don't know on whats the story behind and when it comes to growth and adoption in talks of crypto then this isn't something that we had seen in the past.
We are really having that kind of level of recognition which is really a good indication that we are really improving.

Nothing has changed in that thing, most of the people that just jumped off think of that easily. They're very easy to think about the profits but are not willing to go through the market's rejection and correction.
When that time comes, they're shouting and crying that they've been in the depth of losing more but didn't listened to the advise of those people that have warned and advised them that it's not like what they think.

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Yeah, the price of bitcoin has increased steadily and naturally with some corrections, because besides that there are also some people who
want to cash in fiat for their profit. But with these conditions, bitcoin is more stable and grows normally. The adoption of bitcoin is getting
stronger and people are getting more confident that in 2020 until now, bitcoin differs from 2018, where there are still many weak hands.
Now they're getting stronger.

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Quote from: bitcon on March 11, 2021, 04:03:01 PM

Now the crypto space is a platform for making big money, this is a huge opportunity for real growth and self-education.

Only if invested properly and with basic knowledge about it. Because there are still people that believes on the overnight success of being in the crypto because of many traders and investors sharing their successful journey. And that makes other people think that it's just an easy going market as they enter. The opportunity is there but the actual growth of the investor that will get in depends on his purpose and outlook to the market.

No doubt that majority of people that do jump into this market do mostly mind off about making easy profits or making themselves rich when they get engage into this place

but sooner or later these people will realize on how hard on doing such thing.Those things that they had watched or seen about making big profits are just the face of success after a very long pile of failures.

They don't know on whats the story behind and when it comes to growth and adoption in talks of crypto then this isn't something that we had seen in the past.
We are really having that kind of level of recognition which is really a good indication that we are really improving.

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Quote from: bitcon on March 11, 2021, 04:03:01 PM

Now the crypto space is a platform for making big money, this is a huge opportunity for real growth and self-education.

Only if invested properly and with basic knowledge about it. Because there are still people that believes on the overnight success of being in the crypto because of many traders and investors sharing their successful journey. And that makes other people think that it's just an easy going market as they enter. The opportunity is there but the actual growth of the investor that will get in depends on his purpose and outlook to the market.

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Yes we can say this better days for crypto is coming than the past days of it as wen can see now the best opportunities are in all we need to do is to work hard again like we did before.take the bullrun and do what you did before making investments and tradings as we know market is getting higher and high again.

Now there are many coins, the trader has the main weapon - information, various manuals and approximate instructions for high-quality work on the crypto market. At the beginning of its journey, the crypto market was something like a strange lottery. Now the crypto space is a platform for making big money, this is a huge opportunity for real growth and self-education.

I believe that in the future we will be able to see a real legal place for making and selling digital money, where there is no place for scams and low-quality products.

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Quote from: raji1995naya on March 06, 2021, 05:51:23 PM

According to my knowledge and view bull market for ALTS in other words ALT season still not started.

It's already started and you can't take the current chart will be the same as the old chart consider there are lots of improvements that happened in the cryptocurrency dude. I think that you have known this so well and altcoin season already started since bitcoin turned into the bullrun mode. We can't deny that there are a bunch or almost all of the coins that were touching the new ATH.
The altseason is happening now.

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According to my knowledge and view bull market for ALTS in other words ALT season still not started. Compare 2017 charts and 2021 charts. Just little pumps happen at the end of 2020 and beginning of the 2021. Major pumps are still checking people's patience. It will give profits to traders who have patience and knowledge. Every trader cannot gain profit from crypto.

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Yes we can say this better days for crypto is coming than the past days of it as wen can see now the best opportunities are in all we need to do is to work hard again like we did before.take the bullrun and do what you did before making investments and tradings as we know market is getting higher and high again.

means there is your belief that future bulls will break through the current ATH?
the current price for most altcoins is too high. in fact, I can hardly believe BTC is pumping as high as it is today.
the bull and bear situations we've seen. but it all takes a long time to prepare.
when the bears that come are not as big as 2018 I believe that this market is already controlled by big companies that are playing in the crypto market.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

I agree with you and I think the bull run is not finished at this time, it's just waiting for the right time to increase again (bull run), so don't be late to get a lot of profit from investing in cryptocurrency at this time or you will regret it, because you have neglected the opportunity to gain profit from investing in cryptocurrency at this time and I recommend you to invest in Bitcoin and Ethereum (the price will definitely increase very high if there is a bull run).

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of course, the development of the crypto world is now increasing rapidly in various countries, even the richest people in the world began to invest in the crypto world, and today the cryoto world has been supported by many devices and has become a hot conversation among large investors who want to buy bitcoin and this has been proven, so that the value of bitcoin is increasing and this will continue to happen.

Yes, but i think some people will need to go with different coins like ETH and BNB unless they're new to cryptocurrency. Some of the richest people pay attention and give the percentage of their assets to BTC and it's a great impact to all of cryptocurrency. I think this bullrun will take long compare to 2017 but it will also some differences like short dumps will happen.

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of course, the development of the crypto world is now increasing rapidly in various countries, even the richest people in the world began to invest in the crypto world, and today the cryoto world has been supported by many devices and has become a hot conversation among large investors who want to buy bitcoin and this has been proven, so that the value of bitcoin is increasing and this will continue to happen.

And the small dips in price are small hiccups in the way of reaching the next levels in terms of prices for BTC. After every bullrun, there is a correction that follows and I am not too worried about any corrections or drops because ultimately BTC is gaining more attention from institutions and even big companies like Mastercard are adopting BTC.

I wish we had Satoshi somewhere who could guide us when the true potential of BTC can be expected because even $100k seems small now considering the popularity BTC has gained and continues to gain. Unlike 2017, I don't think there will be any big dip in the price, although small ones will always happen.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on March 05, 2021, 09:52:18 AM

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No chance we can again buy Bitcoin at 10k, quite obviously. The only thing that scares me which can dump the whole market is when the MicroStrategy CEO decides to dump the huge amount of Bitcoins he holds right now. I hope these big investors never dump the market after showing so much passion and interest in Bitcoins.

I think people with large asset holdings now want to be popular in the market by making a notice to the community. some want to let go which means that is bad news for the market. Some want to join in buying crypto in the market which means that is great news.
crypto is trending in the investment market right now. everyone wants to make themselves the focus of the conversation which can also have an impact on the popularity of their real project. I am sure many of them are taking advantage of the current market momentum.

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Quote from: matjas on March 02, 2021, 03:16:50 AM

What supprises me is that google search trends for "bitcoin" bearly reached 50 % of what we had back in the end of 2017. This might show that there are still a lot of potential small investors out there who are already familiar with bitcoin.

The term "bitcoin" was so much searched in 2017 because the price unexpectedly jumped without any major news or any big event happening and hence everyone was curious what Bitcoin is what happened with it. Also when the price dropped people again searched about bitcoin. The same guys now already know about bitcoin and hence the term is not being searched as much as it was in 2017.

Quote from: Mighty_crypt on March 02, 2021, 03:40:18 AM

Many millions of people are not into crypto yet but that is changing very fast now, it's why I doubt that we will ever have a chance to buy bitcoin at 10k per BTC again, it's better to play safe too because anything can happen, we don't know how long this bullrun will be around for this time but yes it's a great success that crypto is well adopted this time around, can't wait for bear market so I can buy some promising coins for cheaper price

No chance we can again buy Bitcoin at 10k, quite obviously. The only thing that scares me which can dump the whole market is when the MicroStrategy CEO decides to dump the huge amount of Bitcoins he holds right now. I hope these big investors never dump the market after showing so much passion and interest in Bitcoins.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

If we think about investors who missed the 2017 crypto boom are regretting that why they did not invest in it before. So the bull run experience now is the second chance for those traders to get some profit. They think that it is the greatest chance to invest in crypto. Some companies such as Microstrategy we here before the bull run. Michael Saylor believed that bitcoin will be more valuable and it is the greatest tool against inflation. The belief of those few companies was the herald of the bull run. Other companies followed those companies and added cryptocurrencies to their balances.
The bull run will continue it is not the wide adoption. We cannot imagine what will happen if everyone jumps into cryptocurrencies.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

I agree with some new investor comes on market.for that reason every alt and top coin price in cress day by day i think its a positive signal for all the investor.so i can tell Better than before .

Now many people buy cryptocurrency because the cryptocurrency market raise and a lot of people want to make money on the raise of the market.
But it is necessary to carefully choose the projects before the investing. The project must be usefull to people and be in demand that its price would grow in future.
There are ecological projects that help to protect nature https://moss.earth/blog/
I think that demand in such projects will be big in future because it is very important to protect a nature from CO2 pollution and fight with global warming.

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Quote from: ahoenk on February 28, 2021, 05:49:24 AM

I think the bull run is still not over. Look at the chart in 2017 closely, this thing will be sideway for like 3-4 month and then continue the bull run. There is nothing wrong with the people which hodl long time ago want to cash out and buy some property, they will come back again in few month.

Even if it is impossible for this particular bull run to move exactly in the same way than the previous one at the same time I think people are underestimating how powerful this bull run is going to be, the bull run is not over we are just taking a break and once that break is over I have no doubt that we can reach six figures with relatively ease, and when that happens you do not want to be caught without cryptocurrencies, you need to hold bitcoin, ethereum, binance coin or other good coins in the market, if you do that and you have enough of those coins the profits that you could get could change your life forever.

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Quote from: ttcsalam on March 02, 2021, 04:23:53 AM

I agree with some new investor comes on market.for that reason every alt and top coin price in cress day by day i think its a positive signal for all the investor.so i can tell Better than before .

Yes, the arrival of new investors into the crypto market is a very positive thing because it can increase the demand and supply of tokens for a certain duration, because they come to look for profits and can have a good effect on cryptocurrency.

The major and new entrants investors is the driving force of the massive bullrun the market had been experiencing in this period of time consequently that had put an end to the massive dump of the price of bitcoin that we used to experience in the past whatever price pullback or correction now is just a temporary one because the market is still very bullish, after several pull backs the price couldn't pass the support at $42K an indication that t the bulls has dominance in the market.

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Do not worry now there is a temporary respite in the market and the growth of bitcoin is likely to continue. I also look forward to the present altcoin season for several months, what we saw in January was only preparation for growth.

actually this year should be the year altcoins grow, but it was disturbed by the movement of bitcoin last year which rapidly increased, even the effect was still there at the beginning of this year.

it is true that you say that currently there is a temporary leeway in the market by looking at bitcoin as it seems to be comfortable for the current price, so that it will make it easier for altcoins to move and reach ATH, even though some have reached but most of them are still waiting for the time. we hope this year bitcoin and altcoin are at their peak and there is still a long way to go.

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Everything moves in a spiral of growth and decline. It has always been and will be so. Moreover, everything is very interestingly arranged in such a way that each cycle of the crypto market prepares a platform for the next one. Changes in prices, their growth to new highs, attract new investors, new projects, even more developed startups that will push the crypto industry forward. Therefore, there is no need to panic when a correction occurs, it is simply necessary for the next step. At first glance, everything just buy-sell, but in fact you need to understand how the cryptocurrency market works.

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the bull run has just begun, the decline in value is due only to normal market downturns, certainly the adoption of crypto by mastercard, banks, paypal will bring excellent visibility and advertising to the crypto world but in my opinion it will also lead to rapid regulation and then taxation

I can't say "it just begun" because we have reached from 10k to nearly 60k and that is a lot of increase, so even if we increase more, even if we reach to 200k or 300k or even more, this is not "just starting" because we have reached to a certain super increase already so we could say that we are in a "midway" to a bull run if it goes up more, and if it doesn't that means we are at the end but there is absolutely no way we could call it just the start.

So, basically we are in a situation where we could say that we are doing fine but not doing that much and that is not the start that is midway and I believe we are going to increase even more but that will take a bit of a time before we can actually reach to final form but we are not at the start neither. Everyone definitely entitled to their own opinion but that is not really something factual to say that we are at the start.

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Quote from: matjas on March 02, 2021, 03:16:50 AM

What supprises me is that google search trends for "bitcoin" bearly reached 50 % of what we had back in the end of 2017. This might show that there are still a lot of potential small investors out there who are already familiar with bitcoin.

From that information it only means that there more people that are still unaware with what's going on with BTC,

that particular graph interest rate still at low, it's never too late for those who are really

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

People are expecting too much from the market, they want the market right away to make them instant profit, we are still going on the third month of the year and the last halving anniversary is still three months to go, we should show patience, the market still looks great, don't be too greedy to make a profit.

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This was one of the lamest bull runs so far. Not fun and all the youtube and the people involved are just shills, practising marketing instead of having fun and enjoying profits. All chatrooms and forums are full of shills and bots and all the fun the previous bull run had is gone. Nobody even gives good memes anymore, it is just the same recycled. I see excitement and profits, but I don't see the spark this time. I don't say it is different, I just don't have fun anymore. There are thousands of reasons that make me stressed and very few relaxing moments.

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Quote from: matjas on March 02, 2021, 03:16:50 AM

What supprises me is that google search trends for "bitcoin" bearly reached 50 % of what we had back in the end of 2017. This might show that there are still a lot of potential small investors out there who are already familiar with bitcoin.

well, of course increasing. even on my social media, most people talk about this change. Honestly, I think a lot of people feel that the changes regarding crypto are stronger now than they were in 2017. I can only say that the support and encouragement this year towards crypto was done by great people. whereas in 2017, there were still quite a number of pros and cons regarding the increase. hope this development continues to increase.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

I agree, in the middle of the corona pandemic we saw a lot of rich people and companies start buying bitcoins. If the whole economy was really as bad as some people say than there is no chance so many companies would have invested into bitcoins. Having a lot of cash at hand creates opportunities these days because the interest rates are still so low. The traditional banking system is not really working anymore. That is another reason why I think that bitcoin is going to remain strong for the future.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

I agree with some new investor comes on market.for that reason every alt and top coin price in cress day by day i think its a positive signal for all the investor.so i can tell Better than before .

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Many millions of people are not into crypto yet but that is changing very fast now, it's why I doubt that we will ever have a chance to buy bitcoin at 10k per BTC again, it's better to play safe too because anything can happen, we don't know how long this bullrun will be around for this time but yes it's a great success that crypto is well adopted this time around, can't wait for bear market so I can buy some promising coins for cheaper price

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What supprises me is that google search trends for "bitcoin" bearly reached 50 % of what we had back in the end of 2017. This might show that there are still a lot of potential small investors out there who are already familiar with bitcoin.

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What do you mean by "powerful" people? If you are talking about influential people, then yeah, it's true. Back in 2017, no big institution or people were investing in bitcoin. Price were getting pumped because people where just jumping into the hype train. They were afraid they were going to "miss" the opportunity to make some quick profit. Hence, the more people like them joined, the higher was the "risk" of the price getting dumped. Eventually people were uncertain and scared that the price was about to fall and it did end up happening sadly.
But its not the same this time. More big companies and well known people are supporting bitcoin and investing in it. Though we won't see the price rising forever, but we will see some sort of "stability". I mean the price won't drop back drastically.

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Quote from: Novatech8 on March 01, 2021, 02:40:50 AM

The fact is adoption won't stop bears from taking over but there will be difference is price low compare to what we've seen in past years, bitcoin may never go down beyond 20k again and that's a fact, the good move is take profits and wait for bear market to build portfolios again, crypto is just turning around in circle wise

It might be a right speculation for bitcoin that it won't go down beyond 20k as more and more adoptions are done and still going on. But tbh, it also won't be a good decision to wait for a real bear market and stay away from those oppertunities where anyone could buy bitcoin on every bottom in correction times and sell them at a new ATH. As it'll be just like previous bear market when everyone was expecting to see bitcoin at the $1k level , but bitcoin rebounded from $3.8k zone. Also, it's true that bear market will come sooner or later.

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TRUE, everything is changing and this bull run is different to before. Many people keep saying bearish is coming but those who already selling got bamboozled and what they can do is just to suck it up Roll Eyes

. the bullrun is still on early phase and you guys gonna see what's the true price of bitcoin at the end of 2021 trust me Grin

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Exactly what i keep on saying, it's gonna be different than the usual cycle and $45K above is the new bitcoin's "normal" price. Many people think it's gonna be like before and there gonna be massive dump bla bla bla but turns out we could still go up again and retain the price near ATH.
People should know that the effect of large corporation and institutional investors really huge to the market.

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The trust factor of cryptos increases in the last half year and we are seeing crypto adoption is increasing at a good pace. Don't be confused by other words market is much much better than the late 2017 bull run. This time market would not be like in 2018-2019. As you know many big players jump into this market that's why we should not compare this market from previous bull run and should not be afraid of current ongoing market correction.

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Quote from: ahoenk on February 28, 2021, 05:49:24 AM

I think the bull run is still not over. Look at the chart in 2017 closely, this thing will be sideway for like 3-4 month and then continue the bull run. There is nothing wrong with the people which hodl long time ago want to cash out and buy some property, they will come back again in few month.

l agree with your opinion, bull run is not still over yet. But everything is possible, maybe we will see that bull run will be over in the near future. Indeed everything is going such in 2017, but as l said maybe the bear market is near to us. On the other hand, there is nothing to worry about long-term investment, l think we have still time and should wait a bit more. It is just my prediction and l hope bull run will be with us for few months.

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Quote from: ElaineGanda on March 01, 2021, 01:47:03 PM

But I noticed that the pump/bull run that we experienced last 4 years are better compare now because of the massive price increase both alt coins and top coins, not unlike what we experienced recently which only few and selected coins pumped.

Is that the basis of a healthy bull run?

Those coins you are talking about way back in 2017 are mostly products of a hype that even without a use-case token, it can increase the price.

Going back today, there are lots of altcoins that also got pumped up on this bull run so I don't understand why you said it's only a few coins that got pumped up. Maybe you are pointing at those coins you have on your portfolio?

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Quote from: ElaineGanda on February 27, 2021, 02:36:49 PM

Do you think guys, the market we have right now is better than the market we had 4-5 years ago? Is the bull run/pump that we have are better compare to 4-5 years ago? I can't fully quantify the data/graphs because of the complexity and complicated market situation. Maybe in top coins it is obvious that the market is better than before but how about the altcoins.

I must say yes we have been witnessed the continuous rising of bitcoin from the first mknth of this year up to the third week of this month, and here the price correction comes and we are now dealing with it. It is somewhat a better than before because i remember seeing the continuous downfall of bitcoin price in the market after the most awaited celebration to end and to start the year wayback 2017-2018. But as what we also been witnessed, altcoins are following the trend of bitcoin, which i didn't observed on the past what have been happened to altcoins way back then.

I see, I also remember that bitcoin ATH is only around $20k compare to the recent pump of btc which is $58k. But I noticed that the pump/bull run that we experienced last 4 years are better compare now because of the massive price increase both alt coins and top coins, not unlike what we experienced recently which only few and selected coins pumped.

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Quote from: Novatech8 on March 01, 2021, 02:40:50 AM

The fact is adoption won't stop bears from taking over but there will be difference is price low compare to what we've seen in past years, bitcoin may never go down beyond 20k again and that's a fact, the good move is take profits and wait for bear market to build portfolios again, crypto is just turning around in circle wise

Bears coming into the market is inevitable. Like any investor, we all will take profit.
Bitcoin could really dip low and it's not very appropriate for using anymore for it could only process less than 10 transactions per sec. I think Elon had already introduced something old but faster option for crypto users. There will really be a shift of coins that will happen like ADA that will finally take a bigger bite of the pie in crypto market.

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The fact is adoption won't stop bears from taking over but there will be difference is price low compare to what we've seen in past years, bitcoin may never go down beyond 20k again and that's a fact, the good move is take profits and wait for bear market to build portfolios again, crypto is just turning around in circle wise

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I think the bull run is still not over. Look at the chart in 2017 closely, this thing will be sideway for like 3-4 month and then continue the bull run. There is nothing wrong with the people which hodl long time ago want to cash out and buy some property, they will come back again in few month.

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Quote from: Bitbtc8 on February 28, 2021, 01:55:58 AM

Still the bear market will come because crypto space is a circle, even if biggest money keeps getting into crypto it won't stop red market from happening, do not be deceived it's better to take profits while you still can and wait for bear market to buy back again, look at ethereum it's down to 1300$ now

The new money that goes to the crypto is not equal to the total bitcoin that started to be dumped by the holders. it seems like this will be a very long time correction but the market is not getting a big impact.
The dump that happened is quite small compared with the old dump that happened a few years ago.
With the support from the institutional investors and it can reduce the dump for the cryptocurrency. We need more and more fresh money to enter the crypto market to end this correction.
The market is only trying to survive from the dump.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

We should be thankful we bridge the $40k level it's rewarding for long term holders and those who believe on Bitcoin when it was crashing because of the pandemic, I will not believe that the bull run is over, it's a correction and the market will continue to get better, if you are not buying this dip again, you have something to regret again in the last quarter of the month.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

Yes true this 2021 bullrun is differrent from 2017 bullrun. Because of pandemic crisis more fiat money are printed out of thin air thats why big companies or many people in general are looking for asset to invest to protect thier wealth from hyper inflations. One of the best performing asset that people choose is bitcoin and other crypto currencies.

Maybe in 2021, bitcoin will have a long bull run than what we saw in 2017 as bitcoin price does not yet touch the real ATH, although we already see the new highest price in $58k this month. When more big companies can see bitcoin's benefits to their company, they will try to invest in bitcoin in a small portion while they can see and analyze the bitcoin price movements. If they think that is what they are looking for, they will use big money to invest in bitcoin.

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Still the bear market will come because crypto space is a circle, even if biggest money keeps getting into crypto it won't stop red market from happening, do not be deceived it's better to take profits while you still can and wait for bear market to buy back again, look at ethereum it's down to 1300$ now

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

We are entering the 4th industrial revolution. Blockchain is changing the world. Just hold a bit longer and you will see.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

Without a doubt things are improving, some time ago I read that the estimated users of cryptocurrencies now has reached 100 millions, this is the equivalent of a whole country using cryptocurrencies, and I am sure we are going to come to the point in which we will reach a few billion users, once that is achieved then you will see bitcoin being accepted almost everywhere you go, which is exactly what the majority of us is looking for, and once that level of adoption is reached there will be nothing governments will be able to do to reverse this tendency.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

The bull run this time is completely different than we had in the past as there are many institutional investors and big companies investing heavily in the market while in the past we knew that there were some huge investments coming in but had no clear picture about those investors but now things are more clear. The only question i have is whether these adoption is because of fears of economic slowdown due to pandemic and the fear of inflation and are they investing in bitcoin as an alternative market.

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Exactly! This bull run and the following correction is nothing like in 2017. There are several theories of what happened back then: from whales controlling the market to btc halving, or some secret large investor. The point is, no one actually knows what happened, because back then Bitcoin wasn't nearly as public as it is nowadays.
This time is a totally different story. You can basically track how the changes in Bitcoin's price correlated with various events and their announcements on the news. Everything is more transparent this time, IMO. Which is why, I think, no one should fear that there'll be a big drop in price like there was last time. There won't be.

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Yeah, today`s growth is different from what we saw in the 2017, but this shouldn`t confuse us. Market cycles repeat every time, so even if this bullrun seems different, we should be careful. I`m waiting for fall and for me it`s just a question of time. Don`t forget to take profit and don`t be deceived by overpositive thoughts from everywhere

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The bullrun this year is mostly because of the adoption of big companies that gave a huge impact to crypto market.

It became the reason too for other people to know about bitcoin due to their influence making their followers to engage themselves on bitcoin as well.

Thus the situation of bullrun 2017 is completely different now, there's no whales to move the market but its a support coming from establish and known companies.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

its completely different if we comparing this bull run and 2017/2018 bull run mate
because a lot of big company for example paypal and tesla joined this crypto industry now,
also the rise on defi with a lot of advantages for us give a good opportunity

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

This is the proof of legitimate investors who took part of the waves of success in cryptocurrency, a big slap for those who criticize bitcoin during those 3 years of journey of bitcoin. Ultimately, we've broke that record of successful trades, though we've missed several opportunities in the past but we still choose to move on and face the reality in life. As adoption went so high today, every year is getting more exciting for bitcoin and for entire cryptocurrency communities.

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Quote from: ElaineGanda on February 27, 2021, 02:36:49 PM

Do you think guys, the market we have right now is better than the market we had 4-5 years ago? Is the bull run/pump that we have are better compare to 4-5 years ago? I can't fully quantify the data/graphs because of the complexity and complicated market situation. Maybe in top coins it is obvious that the market is better than before but how about the altcoins.

I must say yes we have been witnessed the continuous rising of bitcoin from the first mknth of this year up to the third week of this month, and here the price correction comes and we are now dealing with it. It is somewhat a better than before because i remember seeing the continuous downfall of bitcoin price in the market after the most awaited celebration to end and to start the year wayback 2017-2018. But as what we also been witnessed, altcoins are following the trend of bitcoin, which i didn't observed on the past what have been happened to altcoins way back then.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

That's what everyone should think about, not only about the price dropping or the altcoins they hold are in the reds. Most people would think that the bull run has ended just because they look at the price of their holdings dropping.
But the reality is if you look at the rate of institutional investors getting in, you'll be more than happy to accept the reality that we're not yet done with the bull run.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

You are definitely right on what you had said and its quite obvious that adoption and recognition level comparing into those past years is really different on what we are currently seeing as of this year.Basing off with numbers

of companies and big institutions then we can really tell the difference thats why even I wouldnt really believe on some very price crash just like in 2018 where almost the market didnt really able to recover it out and on deep

reds but it did shows that it wont really be just stopping there.Bitcoin does have the potential and it does able to prove out or even showing up its success in future years to come if this recognition and adoption will really continue into the future years to come.

Its really great to see on how far we've been able to go through.

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Do you think guys, the market we have right now is better than the market we had 4-5 years ago? Is the bull run/pump that we have are better compare to 4-5 years ago? I can't fully quantify the data/graphs because of the complexity and complicated market situation. Maybe in top coins it is obvious that the market is better than before but how about the altcoins.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

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Still there are so-called whales, OP. They could be anyone and anywhere around the globe and no one knows who are they that's why they're being reported with the lines of "unknown trader", "whale", etc.
We might have good adoption from these popular companies, but I am not surprised if they decided to pull out crypto payments into their company. Like Steam no longer accepting payment back in 2017 due to higher fees.

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Quote from: Inkdatar on February 27, 2021, 11:06:00 AM

Better than before because a lot of good news in bitcoin and also some institutions buying bitcoin. The correction is healthy in the market but usually the price could bounce. Many have a high hopes that bull run will be longer this time than before. As others have said fasten your seat belt alt season is also coming. Lucky those who have bags more of crypto in their portfolio.

to be honest I've left some of my assets on the exchange and a few altcoins in my wallet due to waiting too long for the pump. but now all has paid off. even though it has made a fortune I still believe this market will last quite a while. demand is sure to increase even in correction can all return. I'm still getting ready and I'm sure some of the altcoins I still hold will have the moment.

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Better than before because a lot of good news in bitcoin and also some institutions buying bitcoin. The correction is healthy in the market but usually the price could bounce. Many have a high hopes that bull run will be longer this time than before. As others have said fasten your seat belt alt season is also coming. Lucky those who have bags more of crypto in their portfolio.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

It may be dropping yes but it can't be compared like in the past like you rightly said. These big buyers are longtime investors and that means they won't be selling off soon. Sell off is a major reason that bitcoin deep just immediately that it starts to because individuals fear to lose large sum so they sell to cut of big losses. For institutional investors, they have the sole aim for profit and not for the fun of hodling bitcoin and they won't sell to a point that they can make profit and that keeps adoption going as price go higher too.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on February 27, 2021, 08:31:44 AM

I also think that you can't compare this bullrun right now with the one from 2017. Back in the day even absolut shitcoins went crazy high for a few days before the long and heavy dump happened that lasted for a long time.
Now the growth seems to be much more organic and healthy at least to me. The consolidation phase that we are in now for a few days also seems to be not too heavy and only caused a small dump in prices and seems to be quite stable right now.
But as always: no one knows what happens.

The market is so healthy to compare before. Last 2017 did only a short bullish season and while it responded with a long bearish season, but what we got today is very different. More people are already embracing crypto, they finally see it's important now and this will help to sustain the market uptrend. We are really surprised how the network keep rallying despite the negative news we've heard, but this never stops people who are having faith in Bitcoin as they will continue to support this.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on February 27, 2021, 08:31:44 AM

I also think that you can't compare this bullrun right now with the one from 2017. Back in the day even absolut shitcoins went crazy high for a few days before the long and heavy dump happened that lasted for a long time.
Now the growth seems to be much more organic and healthy at least to me. The consolidation phase that we are in now for a few days also seems to be not too heavy and only caused a small dump in prices and seems to be quite stable right now.
But as always: no one knows what happens.

Seems right, the bull is not like a bubble the market still standing with good support barrier.
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I also think that you can't compare this bullrun right now with the one from 2017. Back in the day even absolut shitcoins went crazy high for a few days before the long and heavy dump happened that lasted for a long time.
Now the growth seems to be much more organic and healthy at least to me. The consolidation phase that we are in now for a few days also seems to be not too heavy and only caused a small dump in prices and seems to be quite stable right now.
But as always: no one knows what happens.

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BTC is well adopted right now than the past but that still doesn't mean that BTC won't fall anymore, there will surely be a time where people will take profits which will surely affects the price of BTC, that day is when no one knows, be prepared.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

The adoption rate is still increasing even higher and you should not feel worried about this dude. The fact that if bitcoin already adopted by so many parties. You can also see the chart of bitcoin and it's increasing steadily from the year to the year. That means if bitcoin could go even higher anytime.
When more and more adoption will come and people will be seeing bitcoin as something that needs to be included on their consideration.

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Quote from: larus on February 27, 2021, 02:59:53 AM

Institutionals will never allow btc below 20k again. Nonetheless, 20k for btc amay kill the industry now

Institutions are individuals like you and i; what do you mean they would never allow ? Do the institutions control the market ? Mind you the blockchain and crypto currency market does not care if you are an individual or institution before it dumps on you. Or do you mean to say that last year 2020; there were no institutions hodling and using bitcoin ? The market is give and take; ensure you take enough profits before you give back more as losses or rekt.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

Definitely the interest in Bitcoin is much higher now than 3-4 years ago. And as you mention, the interest from large corporations is already quite visible. I think you are right - the current situation in the crypto world and the market is better than before.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

i see btc dominance now decreasing and this is indicating if altcoins price will spike up soon or later mate
and i still believe if the bulls is not over yet, its only a temporary corrections mate
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I think that the increase in prices this year will be sustained. well, this is very different from the previous one, because now there are people who are recognized by the world as providing considerable support for bitcoin or cryptocurrency users. Actually, I realized this too late because most of the assets I owned were sold at the end of 2020, but I am quite happy to see the current situation.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

That's very true. ITs not over like they said its a correction but don't you also think we're off the loop already of this bull and bear market. It will happen still probably not for now. The adoption is already so there could be a reason why the bear market isn't going to be so bad because of the adoption. Bitcoin had become very popular really, even the old folks today are up to invest in BTC.

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I do not think the bull run is over because the price is still increasing, although the increases are not so fast. It is good to see the price slowly grow as we can prepare our coins to sell and we can determine what high price we want.

Maybe people buying bitcoin is not like in the past, but now, we have many big companies trying to integrate their finance with bitcoin and many of those investing in bitcoin. That will be great news for us because that can make the price rise, whether it's slow or fast.

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Quote from: Looper_U on February 27, 2021, 12:54:25 AM

I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

Don't equate the conditions and situation in 2017 with this year, because every year it is clearly different in crypto, right now it's not that no one is buying BTC like crazy, it's clear there is just that it's not really visible because of the difference in BTC prices on 2017 with this year is very far away, so don't equate every past condition with the current condition even though the words mentioned by everyone in crypto are always the same, namely Bull run.

Actually we can compare it before and now since OP is right the 2017 bull run doesn't have strong support compare to now that's why when the bear market came the price crash so badly to the extent that we see the price drop down to $3000+ level which is so deep for the past ATH reached before. And look what happened now even the market turn red these days still we can still hop on since we know there are big fellas are here supporting some drops of the bitcoin that's why we see the price became stable after the storm happen.

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Quote from: larus on February 27, 2021, 02:59:53 AM

Institutionals will never allow btc below 20k again. Nonetheless, 20k for btc amay kill the industry now

20k per bitcoin won't kill the industry, in 2020 when pandemic hit the whole universe everyone thought it was over, who knew that bitcoin can ever go deep to 3000+ at that time? The fortune part about bitcoin is adoption, some people will always be waiting to buy the dip that's what I'm sure about.

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Agree, most people who said history repeat (want the condition like 2018) is the one who want to accumulate coins at really cheap point.
Im a bit sure that it will not happen anymore and this condition is just a small correction to create a stable season for a Bitcoin. I mean even if the buy power isnt strong anymore, sell pressure will not be huge enough to dump it.

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We have no support from the institutional investors in the past but this time the institutional investors started to consider bitcoin and there are lots of countries that were also starting to take bitcoin as a thing that must be talked about.
There are lots of products that already developed in the crypto and the cryptocurrency become even mature than before.
We are not yet facing the massive adoption dude and we are still at the early stage of crypto adoption. Imagine when all people consider bitcoin as the best investment. that will make bitcoin go to the moon again.

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I almost got confused that the bullrun is over until I think about everything deeply again, here is what I think about, this bull season is not like 2017s, we don't have powerful people buying BTC this crazily in the past, crypto was never this popular and more supported in the past, Tesla, mastercard, PayPal, Microstrategy etc where not here before, even if the bull is slowly fading the high adoption rate still stands

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