Betting on dice with bots! Please help!

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Quote from: jeannemadrigal2 on July 15, 2015, 12:17:12 PM

Quote from: Xialla on July 15, 2015, 11:20:00 AM

Quote from: psy112 on July 15, 2015, 09:21:37 AM

I know that a bot in the long term will loose in the end, sooner or later the luck always turn. But when I'm botting I never play 49.5%. I ether play looking for the long red streak to hit the winning on it when it turns green, that works on diggit.io or I play with odds like 55%-80%. But it's still never safe! But this works for me, but i want to bot to be online doing this without having my laptop on.
Get me now?

yes, I get what you mean but I don't understands why you want to do it:)

in first part of your post, you stated (correctly), that in long term, you will lost money with bot but in the end of your post, you are asking for bot to "play" instead of you..Maybe we had misunderstanding here, because from my perspective is long-term and huge amount of spins same.

so I''l try it again - if you will create huge amounts of spins, sooner or later you'll lost everything. please just think about it if you don't believe me. if something "works" for you, just count it as luck and not as strategy.

OK, I agree, but what if you had a bot that played with the averages? What I mean is, over time assuming that the site is legit, your win % should approach 49% right? So, what if a bot waited until there was a large statistical anomaly, like your % in the last hour was only 45% wins or something? I do understand that past rolls don't make the math for future rolls any different, but it seems to me that you should trend towards 49% right?

But yes, I agree that using a bot for dice is dangerous. Good luck though, I hope the OP makes money with it!

Varience would prove this unfeasible. The 49% win chance is for a long term, just like how dice site investment tend toward 1% after a very long time, not a short term. The next hour can very well be worst than the previous one.

Note that rolls do not affect other rolls and it is pretty much just a mindset. Running a script doesn't need much computing power or internet connection. It is pretty much just transmitting packets. Even raspberry pi 1 would work fine.

There is no strategy for gambling assuming no exploits is used. Each method will work for a short term till it doesn't.

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To program your bot use the site API, I think all sites have one.

To run it put him in some virtual machine, like from amazon web services, I'm not experienced with this part

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Quote from: Xialla on July 15, 2015, 11:20:00 AM

Quote from: psy112 on July 15, 2015, 09:21:37 AM

I know that a bot in the long term will loose in the end, sooner or later the luck always turn. But when I'm botting I never play 49.5%. I ether play looking for the long red streak to hit the winning on it when it turns green, that works on diggit.io or I play with odds like 55%-80%. But it's still never safe! But this works for me, but i want to bot to be online doing this without having my laptop on.
Get me now?

yes, I get what you mean but I don't understands why you want to do it:)

in first part of your post, you stated (correctly), that in long term, you will lost money with bot but in the end of your post, you are asking for bot to "play" instead of you..Maybe we had misunderstanding here, because from my perspective is long-term and huge amount of spins same.

so I''l try it again - if you will create huge amounts of spins, sooner or later you'll lost everything. please just think about it if you don't believe me. if something "works" for you, just count it as luck and not as strategy.

OK, I agree, but what if you had a bot that played with the averages? What I mean is, over time assuming that the site is legit, your win % should approach 49% right? So, what if a bot waited until there was a large statistical anomaly, like your % in the last hour was only 45% wins or something? I do understand that past rolls don't make the math for future rolls any different, but it seems to me that you should trend towards 49% right?

But yes, I agree that using a bot for dice is dangerous. Good luck though, I hope the OP makes money with it!

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Quote from: psy112 on July 15, 2015, 09:21:37 AM

I know that a bot in the long term will loose in the end, sooner or later the luck always turn. But when I'm botting I never play 49.5%. I ether play looking for the long red streak to hit the winning on it when it turns green, that works on diggit.io or I play with odds like 55%-80%. But it's still never safe! But this works for me, but i want to bot to be online doing this without having my laptop on.
Get me now?

yes, I get what you mean but I don't understands why you want to do it:)

in first part of your post, you stated (correctly), that in long term, you will lost money with bot but in the end of your post, you are asking for bot to "play" instead of you..Maybe we had misunderstanding here, because from my perspective is long-term and huge amount of spins same.

so I''l try it again - if you will create huge amounts of spins, sooner or later you'll lost everything. please just think about it if you don't believe me. if something "works" for you, just count it as luck and not as strategy.

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Quote from: Xialla on July 15, 2015, 06:04:54 AM

maybe I don't get it, but even you know all the facts posted above, you are still trying to find a way, how to play on dice remotely?

I don't want to convince you are something, but it just simply don't makes sense. on one side, you are considering fees as electricity and in other one, you want to gamble with bot.

so again, you can't make in profit in long-term by gambling on dice site. and for short-term, you don't need any bot or remote access..please, read again, what I posted.

Lost in translation ;P I know that a bot in the long term will loose in the end, sooner or later the luck always turn. But when I'm botting I never play 49.5%. I ether play looking for the long red streak to hit the winning on it when it turns green, that works on diggit.io or I play with odds like 55%-80%. But it's still never safe! But this works for me, but i want to bot to be online doing this without having my laptop on.

Get me now?

Quote from: shad_90 on July 15, 2015, 08:05:42 AM

Do you have any experience with VPS. I can only think of using some VPS and configuring it to use bots on those websites. This way you will not have to keep your PC ON all the time

I have some experience with VPS.

Use to do bot via Windows Azure, but that was only during the 30 days free trial.

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Quote from: shad_90 on July 15, 2015, 08:05:42 AM

Do you have any experience with VPS. I can only think of using some VPS and configuring it to use bots on those websites. This way you will not have to keep your PC ON all the time

i have(ubuntu 14 version) and i have also a very good list for you with some that accetp bitcoin too, shoot me a pm if you want

but you create your own vps for you bot, like i've done in the past for a renting bot, you need a vm + a vpn, there are some good free vpn with 1.5G per month as a bandwidth

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Do you have any experience with VPS. I can only think of using some VPS and configuring it to use bots on those websites. This way you will not have to keep your PC ON all the time

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Quote from: Xialla on July 15, 2015, 06:04:54 AM

maybe I don't get it, but even you know all the facts posted above, you are still trying to find a way, how to play on dice remotely?

I don't want to convince you are something, but it just simply don't makes sense. on one side, you are considering fees as electricity and in other one, you want to gamble with bot.

so again, you can't make in profit in long-term by gambling on dice site. and for short-term, you don't need any bot or remote access..please, read again, what I posted.

This, there's no way around it. It's better to limit your gambling, and aim for a lucky strike instead of massively gambling nonstop with smaller quantities.

Xialla

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maybe I don't get it, but even you know all the facts posted above, you are still trying to find a way, how to play on dice remotely?

I don't want to convince you are something, but it just simply don't makes sense. on one side, you are considering fees as electricity and in other one, you want to gamble with bot.

so again, you can't make in profit in long-term by gambling on dice site. and for short-term, you don't need any bot or remote access..please, read again, what I posted.

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Quote from: Xialla on July 15, 2015, 04:19:43 AM

Quote from: psy112 on July 15, 2015, 03:21:51 AM

Are there any solution to run the bots online with remote access? So i don't have to have my computer on at all the time.

Is it possible to run the bots with a raspberry? How do you people use them?

When you run many bots, what's you strategy?

Hello,

there are numerous bots available with different complexity to setup and understand and by different developers. for example:

DiceBot (Martingale, Labouchere) for Just-Dice, PRC, 999dice and safedice: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/seuntjies-dicebot-multi-site-multi-strategy-betting-bot-for-dice-with-charts-307425
Satoshimines BOT < < < |Autopilot|Martingale: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/699over-4btc-wonsatoshiminesbotnew-botautopilot150-customers-1064340

..and many others.

anyway, in long-term is very tricky to utilize the bot. just because with huge amounts of rolls is more and more possible to have higher possibility for bad luck. mathematically:

Code:

with 68 spins is 50.3% chance, that you will loose 6 times in row
with 150 spins is 80.6% chance, that you will loose 6 times in row
with 250 spins is 95.3% chance, that you will loose 6 times in row

so more spins are even worse and bot is designed to spin again and again. another problem is house edge (1%), so even you are winning or loosing, basically every roll is somehow loose.

check this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_%28betting_system%29 for details, to fully understand, how tricky it is. playing by hand for fun in short term may be profitable, in long term with bot, you will simply lost everything.

good luck

Thanks, but i know that part already Wink

But i would love to know how to run the bot remotely, so the electricity bill is lower then the winnings. Playing or really low amount on my own computer want make any profit with the power it uses

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Quote from: psy112 on July 15, 2015, 03:21:51 AM

Are there any solution to run the bots online with remote access? So i don't have to have my computer on at all the time.

Is it possible to run the bots with a raspberry? How do you people use them?

When you run many bots, what's you strategy?

Hello,

there are numerous bots available with different complexity to setup and understand and by different developers. for example:

DiceBot (Martingale, Labouchere) for Just-Dice, PRC, 999dice and safedice: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/seuntjies-dicebot-multi-site-multi-strategy-betting-bot-for-dice-with-charts-307425
Satoshimines BOT < < < |Autopilot|Martingale: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/699over-4btc-wonsatoshiminesbotnew-botautopilot150-customers-1064340

..and many others.

anyway, in long-term is very tricky to utilize the bot. just because with huge amounts of rolls is more and more possible to have higher possibility for bad luck. mathematically:

Code:

with 68 spins is 50.3% chance, that you will loose 6 times in row
with 150 spins is 80.6% chance, that you will loose 6 times in row
with 250 spins is 95.3% chance, that you will loose 6 times in row

so more spins are even worse and bot is designed to spin again and again. another problem is house edge (1%), so even you are winning or loosing, basically every roll is somehow loose.

check this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_%28betting_system%29 for details, to fully understand, how tricky it is. playing by hand for fun in short term may be profitable, in long term with bot, you will simply lost everything.

good luck

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Quote from: psy112 on July 15, 2015, 04:06:48 AM

Quote from: pooya87 on July 15, 2015, 03:58:04 AM

Quote from: psy112 on July 15, 2015, 03:21:51 AM

When you run many bots, what's you strategy?

they usually use bots because they are custom made and has more options that you can use instead of the gambling site's autobet that might have restricted options sometimes.

not sure about the rest of your questions , and you should move this topic to the gambling section . it belongs there and you will get better answers.

My bad, mods can you move this thread please to gambling?

Look at pretty much bottom of page at left. I believe you should be able to move thread yourself.

Should even say "Move Thread" I believe.

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Quote from: pooya87 on July 15, 2015, 03:58:04 AM

Quote from: psy112 on July 15, 2015, 03:21:51 AM

When you run many bots, what's you strategy?

they usually use bots because they are custom made and has more options that you can use instead of the gambling site's autobet that might have restricted options sometimes.

not sure about the rest of your questions , and you should move this topic to the gambling section . it belongs there and you will get better answers.

My bad, mods can you move this thread please to gambling?

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Quote from: psy112 on July 15, 2015, 03:21:51 AM

When you run many bots, what's you strategy?

they usually use bots because they are custom made and has more options that you can use instead of the gambling site's autobet that might have restricted options sometimes.

not sure about the rest of your questions , and you should move this topic to the gambling section . it belongs there and you will get better answers.

psy112

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Hi,

I've been playing dice with cryptos for a while now, been using both manual and bots. Mostly with good profits. But on every site I'm at there's always someone running a lot of own bots simultaneously, and that's what i want to do, run many with lower bets, looking for the good streak!
I'm a noob when it comes to some of the parts of scripts, but I'm always keen to learn Wink

So my questions is:

Are there any solution to run the bots online with remote access? So i don't have to have my computer on at all the time.

Is it possible to run the bots with a raspberry? How do you people use them?

When you run many bots, what's you strategy?

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