Topic: BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL backlogs by September 30, 2013! (Read 5552 times)
This is a bullshit thread, thus I am not locking.
Sept 15th is rollin up on us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
A pre-order is an order placed for an item which has not yet been released. Everything since is an order and won't be shipped until the pre-orders are taken care of. The only way YOUR version makes sense is if I word it "wont be shipped until the pre-order BACKLOG is taken care of" No need to "change the rules" you already stated it above, which I highlighted. Placed to order = not pre-ordered. Feel free to contradict yourself.
Simple solution. Don't post in the thread titled "BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL backlogs by September 30, 2013!" where this whole conversation got started. If you only want to talk about orders before April 5th...*NOW* moved to backlog.
Now, by using YOUR DEFINITION, I could place an order on Sept 29th, and when they did not ship it on Sept 30 I could scream and yell and holler that they did not meet their stated aim of shipping their backlog. Sorry, it does not hold water. To estimate clearing ANYTHING you have to have a set figure. If you are constantly adding to this figure, the time will therefore increase as well. You are now claiming BFL can see into the future to know what orders will be placed and KNOW they can satisfy it. Typical troll.
New orders would not change the fact that they cleared their backlog, it would just create a second backlog. If at any time they shipped all outstanding orders, the backlog is cleared. Plus they would ship your order Sept. 30 if they had cleared their backlog. They would actually have inventory of assembled units. They could have same day turnaround just as real companies such as Newegg.com. Whoa, I need wikipedia here.... The twenty-foot equivalent unit (often TEU or teu) is an inexact unit of cargo capacity often used to describe the capacity of container ships and container terminals. There is a lack of standardisation in regards to height, ranging between 4 feet 3 inches (1.30 m) and 9 feet 6 inches (2.90 m), with the most common height being 8 feet 6 inches (2.59 m)... AMAZING! 20' long, 8' wide and 4'3" to 9'6" tall. 680 to 1520 CUBIC FEET. Quite a range there bud. That'd hold 1360 to 3040 of the large .5 cubic foot USPS flat rate packages measureing 12 by 12 by 5 1/2. Yea, I see a HUGE need for those TEUs.
A TEU is just a unit of shipping. Also, if you have 300 boxes, you need to put them on pallets otherwise they would roll around inside the truck and they couldn't efficiently move them around. The point is, they would need a large truck instead of the normal little USPS trucks you see arriving in the pics. Maybe they only took pictures on small shipping days. However, they were bragging about how big the piles were. Also, the guy who posted the pics left the company and there haven't been any pictures posted since. 
When were these pictures taken? For 2 months only Jalapenos left the building, would really need that container for those! And gee, the post office would NEVER think to change the vehicle size they pick up with if the orders started ramping up, that'd be silly! Let's make 10 trips! And of course EVERYTHING is shipped by USPS as well! Why use Fed-Ex and UPS and DHL like the customers want for their expedited shipping? That'd make WAY too much sense.
Not my fault BFL uses USPS. Jalapenos are the smallest boxes. Obviously, 300 singles would take up more space and require even more space in trucks.You are looking a bad data and making assupmtions. That 15.5 Jalapenos a day average could be well over 100-150, we'll never know. The lowet Jan. Jala order is 15742 and the highest is 18379. 83 Jalapenos from 68 orders. All told, 182 orders spread over 2600 order numbers. Using the minimum they shipped 21 a day since Jan was cleared in 4 days.
My point was to use how fast BFL claims they can ship to demonstrate we can estimate the size of their backlog.
I'd bet my next paycheck against your next paycheck they are closer to 7000 devices shipped than your piddly estimate.Keep chanting your mantra, . You refuse to acknowledge anything but your limited point of view, even though you are wrong.
I have acknowledged everything almost you have posted (some of the more vapid stuff I just reply with a PSA).It seems that you are just here to derail threads for your lord and master Inaba. Exhibit A, you didn't even post this response in the thread it belongs in:
BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL backlogs by September 30, 2013!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bf-labs-inc-will-process-all-backlogs-by-september-30-2013-268055
Did you get lost? Derailing so many threads you can't keep track anymore?
Counted a few hours of Josh in these forums firefighting posts from people who think BFL is a joke... doesn't he have to get out orders? What the hell is he doing here? They need to fire his ass and replace him.
Pre-orders are the life blood of BFL. If they don't derail threads, they run the risk of word getting out.
I am nobody's sock puppet.
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers, Josh?
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers, Josh?
Ok, so Bick is your sock puppet, got it.
is for FAILED your BBB rating.http://www.bbb.org/kansas-city/Business-Reviews/electronic-equipment-and-supplies-wholesale-and-manufacturers/bf-labs-inc-in-overland-park-ks-1000002011#reasonrating
Counted a few hours of Josh in these forums firefighting posts from people who think BFL is a joke... doesn't he have to get out orders? What the hell is he doing here? They need to fire his ass and replace him.
Yea Josh:
Josh which testing lab do you guys use to certify your products?
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/TestFirmSearch.cfm
You probably use this one, the only one in Kansas, right?
Rogers Labs, Inc.
Louisburg
06/27/2016
Scot Rogers
4405 West 259th Terrace
Louisburg Kansas 66053
United States
[email protected]
913-837-3214
913-837-3214
See I looked through the 302 tests he's done and I can't seem to find any for "Butterfly Labs". Did you certify the hardware under a different name??
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/TestFirmSearch.cfm
You probably use this one, the only one in Kansas, right?
Rogers Labs, Inc.
Louisburg
06/27/2016
Scot Rogers
4405 West 259th Terrace
Louisburg Kansas 66053
United States
[email protected]
913-837-3214
913-837-3214
See I looked through the 302 tests he's done and I can't seem to find any for "Butterfly Labs". Did you certify the hardware under a different name??
I am nobody's sock puppet.
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers, Josh?
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers, Josh?
Ok, so Bick is your sock puppet, got it.
Inaba why don't you answer for your companies actions instead of deflecting legitimate questions. You are the ultimate sock puppet in your own actions, up to and including calling your customers idiots and being a defensive penile douche.
How does it feel to have Butterfly Labs be the laughing/hating stock of the entire mining industry? Since there are many more vendors to choose from up and coming, I hope you and your scammer CEO get your fill before your order books suddenly go empty.
Even if it does deliver. Will it be profitable by now? Maybe I can recoup some of the money I spent.
Inaba,
Q: Were any of your current gen ASIC products granted FCC approval ? What sort of certification processes did you go through ?
Q: Will your next generation PCIe products be undergoing formal certification and compliance testing ?
Q: On what legal grounds are you refusing to honor refunds, in apparent violation of FTC regulations ?
Q: Were any of your current gen ASIC products granted FCC approval ? What sort of certification processes did you go through ?
Q: Will your next generation PCIe products be undergoing formal certification and compliance testing ?
Q: On what legal grounds are you refusing to honor refunds, in apparent violation of FTC regulations ?
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Interestingly those questions are not on his agenda and has seen fit to ignore. Great questions be nice to see companies actually come to the forums and answer the community.
Inaba,
Q: Were any of your current gen ASIC products granted FCC approval ? What sort of certification processes did you go through ?
Q: Will your next generation PCIe products be undergoing formal certification and compliance testing ?
Q: On what legal grounds are you refusing to honor refunds, in apparent violation of FTC regulations ?
Q: Were any of your current gen ASIC products granted FCC approval ? What sort of certification processes did you go through ?
Q: Will your next generation PCIe products be undergoing formal certification and compliance testing ?
Q: On what legal grounds are you refusing to honor refunds, in apparent violation of FTC regulations ?
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Timer removed. End time: 2013-09-30+23:59:59
Tick tock Josh... time to get out of the forums and back to the production line. People want their refunds oops products.
36 days left do you know where your BFL COO is wasting his time?
Josh which testing lab do you guys use to certify your products?
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/TestFirmSearch.cfm
You probably use this one, the only one in Kansas, right?
Rogers Labs, Inc.
Louisburg
06/27/2016
Scot Rogers
4405 West 259th Terrace
Louisburg Kansas 66053
United States
[email protected]
913-837-3214
913-837-3214
See I looked through the 302 tests he's done and I can't seem to find any for "Butterfly Labs". Did you certify the hardware under a different name??
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/TestFirmSearch.cfm
You probably use this one, the only one in Kansas, right?
Rogers Labs, Inc.
Louisburg
06/27/2016
Scot Rogers
4405 West 259th Terrace
Louisburg Kansas 66053
United States
[email protected]
913-837-3214
913-837-3214
See I looked through the 302 tests he's done and I can't seem to find any for "Butterfly Labs". Did you certify the hardware under a different name??
Did you mean "buttery laws"? 
ROFL, that's what I got too!
Here's the page we need to read: http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/equipment-authorization
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Your search "bf labs" returned no results.
Did you mean "buttery laws"?
ROFL, that's what I got too!
Here's the page we need to read: http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/equipment-authorization
Inaba has been dodging that question since November of 2012 when he made the claim that BFL was getting FCC certification.
You can read his claim here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.
With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified. We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.
He said the Jalapeno (original form factor, not the new Single case) had gone to a lab and they were just waiting on the report. Of course, we all know that the original form factor Jalapeno never worked, but that is besides the point.
You can read his claim here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
When is the Jalapeno getting FCC approval?
Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.
With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified. We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.
He said the Jalapeno (original form factor, not the new Single case) had gone to a lab and they were just waiting on the report. Of course, we all know that the original form factor Jalapeno never worked, but that is besides the point.
Good news everybody!: http://www.fcc.gov/search/results/butterfly%20labs
Feel free to plug in BF Labs, too. (or any other variants you can think of)
Did you mean "buttery laws"?
Inaba has been dodging that question since November of 2012 when he made the claim that BFL was getting FCC certification.
You can read his claim here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.
With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified. We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.
He said the Jalapeno (original form factor, not the new Single case) had gone to a lab and they were just waiting on the report. Of course, we all know that the original form factor Jalapeno never worked, but that is besides the point.
You can read his claim here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
When is the Jalapeno getting FCC approval?
Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.
With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified. We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.
He said the Jalapeno (original form factor, not the new Single case) had gone to a lab and they were just waiting on the report. Of course, we all know that the original form factor Jalapeno never worked, but that is besides the point.
Good news everybody!: http://www.fcc.gov/search/results/butterfly%20labs
Feel free to plug in BF Labs, too. (or any other variants you can think of)
Inaba has been dodging that question since November of 2012 when he made the claim that BFL was getting FCC certification.
You can read his claim here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.
With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified. We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.
He said the Jalapeno (original form factor, not the new Single case) had gone to a lab and they were just waiting on the report. Of course, we all know that the original form factor Jalapeno never worked, but that is besides the point.
You can read his claim here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
When is the Jalapeno getting FCC approval?
Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.
With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified. We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.
He said the Jalapeno (original form factor, not the new Single case) had gone to a lab and they were just waiting on the report. Of course, we all know that the original form factor Jalapeno never worked, but that is besides the point.
oh shit!
Josh I think, for the community, this is a pretty important question for us to ask such an esteemed vendor as yourself.
What products have you registered with the FCC and what arethere their registration numbers?
Josh I think, for the community, this is a pretty important question for us to ask such an esteemed vendor as yourself.
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are
Inaba,
Q: Were any of your current gen ASIC products granted FCC approval ? What sort of certification processes did you go through ?
Q: Will your next generation PCIe products be undergoing formal certification and compliance testing ?
Q: On what legal grounds are you refusing to honor refunds, in apparent violation of FTC regulations ?
Q: Were any of your current gen ASIC products granted FCC approval ? What sort of certification processes did you go through ?
Q: Will your next generation PCIe products be undergoing formal certification and compliance testing ?
Q: On what legal grounds are you refusing to honor refunds, in apparent violation of FTC regulations ?
Ok, so Bick is your sock puppet, got it.
Nope, Bick is not my sock puppet. What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers?
Please correct your spelling, otherwise Josh's next post will consist of the proper usage of the words there, their and they're.
Ok, so Bick is your sock puppet, got it.
Nope, Bick is not my sock puppet. What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers?
Was the FCC sent a BFL unit for testing yes or no?
Last chance to answer.
Last chance to answer.
Oooo or what, Bick? What are you going to do, you scarey man. Are you threatening me? heh.
Like I said Bick, you provide some proof of your accusations and I'll answer all your questions. Until then, you've got nothing.
So that be no proof.
Figured as much.
So you lied about that.
He has been dodging that question since November of 2012 when he made the claim that BFL was getting FCC certification.
You can read his claim here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
When is the Jalapeno getting FCC approval?
Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.
With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified. We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.
He said the Jalapeno (original form factor, not the new Single case) had gone to a lab and they were just waiting on the report.
The reason Josh hasn't answered the question is because we haven't been asking nicely like SgtSpike did but Josh must not have seen the question back in January of this year on BFL's forum, otherwise this issue would have been resolved then: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/690-13-jan-2013-asic-update-discussion-thread-41.html#post12289
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Josh, can you comment on the FCC certification process? Has BFL already acquired the necessary certification? If so, how was that accomplished without working chips on hand?
I am nobody's sock puppet.
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers, Josh?
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers, Josh?
Ok, so Bick is your sock puppet, got it.
I am nobody's sock puppet.
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers, Josh?
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are there registration numbers, Josh?
Was the FCC sent a BFL unit for testing yes or no?
Last chance to answer.
Last chance to answer.
Oooo or what, Bick? What are you going to do, you scarey man? Are you threatening me? heh. You've been beat up verbally so much, you've finally fallen into personal threats, awesome.
Like I said Bick, you provide some proof of your accusations and I'll answer all your questions. Until then, you've got nothing.
I'm not Bick, please stop ignoring my questions...
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are their registration numbers Josh?
You're one of his sock puppets (or is he one of yours? Who knows! Who cares!)... so it's six of one and half dozen of the other.
Was the FCC sent a BFL unit for testing yes or no?
Last chance to answer.
Last chance to answer.
Oooo or what, Bick? What are you going to do, you scarey man. Are you threatening me? heh.
Like I said Bick, you provide some proof of your accusations and I'll answer all your questions. Until then, you've got nothing.
So that be no proof.
Figured as much.
So you lied about that.
He has been dodging that question since November of 2012 when he made the claim that BFL was getting FCC certification.
You can read his claim here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1314335
When is the Jalapeno getting FCC approval?
Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.
With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified. We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.
He said the Jalapeno (original form factor, not the new Single case) had gone to a lab and they were just waiting on the report.
Was the FCC sent a BFL unit for testing yes or no?
Last chance to answer.
Last chance to answer.
Oooo or what, Bick? What are you going to do, you scarey man? Are you threatening me? heh. You've been beat up verbally so much, you've finally fallen into personal threats, awesome.
Like I said Bick, you provide some proof of your accusations and I'll answer all your questions. Until then, you've got nothing.
I'm not Bick, please stop ignoring my questions...
What products have you registered with the FCC and what are their registration numbers Josh?
Was the FCC sent a BFL unit for testing yes or no?
Last chance to answer.
Last chance to answer.
Oooo or what, Bick? What are you going to do, you scarey man. Are you threatening me? heh.
Like I said Bick, you provide some proof of your accusations and I'll answer all your questions. Until then, you've got nothing.
So that be no proof.
Figured as much.
So you lied about that.
Was the FCC sent a BFL unit for testing yes or no?
Last chance to answer.
Last chance to answer.
Oooo or what, Bick? What are you going to do, you scarey man? Are you threatening me? heh. You've been beat up verbally so much, you've finally fallen into personal threats, awesome.
Like I said Bick, you provide some proof of your accusations and I'll answer all your questions. Until then, you've got nothing.
Unless March has an insane amount of Jalapanos ordered, they are coming close to finishing pre-orders on them. That will free up people for the other lines.
I'm not sure what qualifies as insane in terms of quantity, but March and April do in fact have a lot of orders in them.
I'd have to look to be sure, but I don't think it's quite that many in March alone.
Why are you ignoring your duty under FCC and FTC regulations, Josh?
Oooo one more item to add to the list.
Still waiting on the proof you promised, Bick. You weren't lying, were you? Not the great Bick, he wouldn't lie, would he?
Was the FCC sent a BFL unit for testing yes or no?
Last chance to answer.
Guessing that be a no considering there is no evidence to support that claim.
You are the one that needs to provide proof of what you have attested to openly in the forums both this one and your own.
Still waiting on the proof you promised, Bick. You weren't lying, were you? Not the great Bick, he wouldn't lie, would he?
Josh, what products have you registered with the FCC?
Unless March has an insane amount of Jalapanos ordered, they are coming close to finishing pre-orders on them. That will free up people for the other lines.
I'm not sure what qualifies as insane in terms of quantity, but March and April do in fact have a lot of orders in them.
I'd have to look to be sure, but I don't think it's quite that many in March alone.
Guessing he will not name an actual number. Instead, he will choose someone and insult them.
Hopefully, the mods get serious about cleaning up this board and ban the personal attacks.
Unless March has an insane amount of Jalapanos ordered, they are coming close to finishing pre-orders on them. That will free up people for the other lines.
I'm not sure what qualifies as insane in terms of quantity, but March and April do in fact have a lot of orders in them.
I'd have to look to be sure, but I don't think it's quite that many in March alone.
Why are you ignoring your duty under FCC and FTC regulations, Josh?
Oooo one more item to add to the list.
Still waiting on the proof you promised, Bick. You weren't lying, were you? Not the great Bick, he wouldn't lie, would he?
Why are you ignoring your duty under FCC and FTC regulations, Josh?
Oooo one more item to add to the list.
Phinn, one word of advice from a friend: STOP!
This is the thread you worried about? There is far far worse from PG around.
Weirdly, this one is semi-relevant to the forum and is not a scam accusation.
Not worried about any thread. Worried about Phinn's obsession.
It all stated when I started smokin' the shit you sent me.
Phinn, one word of advice from a friend: STOP!
This is the thread you worried about? There is far far worse from PG around.
Weirdly, this one is semi-relevant to the forum and is not a scam accusation.
Not worried about any thread. Worried about Phinn's obsession.
Me thinks you are worried about the wrong obsessive personality.
Unless March has an insane amount of Jalapanos ordered, they are coming close to finishing pre-orders on them. That will free up people for the other lines.
I'm not sure what qualifies as insane in terms of quantity, but March and April do in fact have a lot of orders in them.
Unless March has an insane amount of Jalapanos ordered, they are coming close to finishing pre-orders on them. That will free up people for the other lines.
I'm not sure what qualifies as insane in terms of quantity, but March and April do in fact have a lot of orders in them.
I still haven't gotten my Jalepenos yet. Get to work !
Why are you ignoring your duty under FCC and FTC regulations, Josh?
Unless March has an insane amount of Jalapanos ordered, they are coming close to finishing pre-orders on them. That will free up people for the other lines.
I'm not sure what qualifies as insane in terms of quantity, but March and April do in fact have a lot of orders in them.
It only matters when BFL gets their shipment of chips in. They said it would take 100 days for the chip order. That means they needed to order in late June to get them by the last day in September. That also assumes that it won't be late, like every other thing BFL has attempted.
I doubt they will get the chips by September, but it is possible.
According to bcp19, BFL would have to assemble at least 100,000 devices before sept 30 (since bcp19 believes that BFL has 7PH/s of pre-orders). BFL has said that they can do 300 units per day max. It would take 334 days to process 100,000 units at that rate which means that BFL could not finish their backlog by September. So either bcp19 is way way off in his estimate of BFL pre-orders. Or he doesn't believe they could ship all their pre-orders by Sept 30 (would require shipping 2800 units a day).
I never said 100,000 devices, your lies are getting larger by the day. You still cannot live in reality.I doubt they will get the chips by September, but it is possible.
According to bcp19, BFL would have to assemble at least 100,000 devices before sept 30 (since bcp19 believes that BFL has 7PH/s of pre-orders). BFL has said that they can do 300 units per day max. It would take 334 days to process 100,000 units at that rate which means that BFL could not finish their backlog by September. So either bcp19 is way way off in his estimate of BFL pre-orders. Or he doesn't believe they could ship all their pre-orders by Sept 30 (would require shipping 2800 units a day).
Pre-orders stopped April 5th. You seem to think they need to catch up with everything. Reality check.
April 1st if you count when BFL claims they shipped their first device. But we are talking backlog, not just "pre-orders".You also discount refunds and upgrades.
You said 7PH/s and risingContinue your delusions, I enjoy the laughs.
Guess you didn't take any math courses at MIT huh? 
*I* said pre-order, YOU said backlog. Semantics, since they mean the same thing in regards to the shipping comment.
Nope. The thread says backlog. You asked to define backlog. Your original post said orders. Only now are you saying "pre-orders".Still, TOTAL ORDERBOOK. GUESTIMATE.
And again, you are childish AND purile.
Still backpedaling. Did you finally realize that 7PH/s is a ludicrous figure? Do you want to change it? And again, you are childish AND purile.
You seem to know how to make an estimate, let's here yours then. You keep telling me what I am doing wrong, show me what is right. I cannot accept your assertions any longer until I see YOUR mathematical proof. Get your pen and paper going. Stop denegrating others and PROVE you are right. You have ALL the infomation you need on that website. I am waiting.
I have given you mathematical proof that your assertions of a 7PH/s orderbook (refunds and cancellations remove people from the order book FYI, you may want to be pedantic about something else) are inconsistent with the rest of your opinions. It is also inconsistent with BFL's opinions about their ability to ship and their completion date. BFL talks about clearing their backlog. This thread talks about clearing backlog. You are the only one talking about "pre-orders" now. Here are your original words:
"2) I did a breakdown in a previous thread I cannot find ATM. Worked out to an average .1TH per BFL order and ~70k orders using the ~4900 known orders.
3) Refunds were not taken into account due to lack of information."
from
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2996768
Orders. Not pre-orders.
It only matters when BFL gets their shipment of chips in. They said it would take 100 days for the chip order. That means they needed to order in late June to get them by the last day in September. That also assumes that it won't be late, like every other thing BFL has attempted.
I doubt they will get the chips by September, but it is possible.
According to bcp19, BFL would have to assemble at least 100,000 devices before sept 30 (since bcp19 believes that BFL has 7PH/s of pre-orders). BFL has said that they can do 300 units per day max. It would take 334 days to process 100,000 units at that rate which means that BFL could not finish their backlog by September. So either bcp19 is way way off in his estimate of BFL pre-orders. Or he doesn't believe they could ship all their pre-orders by Sept 30 (would require shipping 2800 units a day).
I never said 100,000 devices, your lies are getting larger by the day. You still cannot live in reality.I doubt they will get the chips by September, but it is possible.
According to bcp19, BFL would have to assemble at least 100,000 devices before sept 30 (since bcp19 believes that BFL has 7PH/s of pre-orders). BFL has said that they can do 300 units per day max. It would take 334 days to process 100,000 units at that rate which means that BFL could not finish their backlog by September. So either bcp19 is way way off in his estimate of BFL pre-orders. Or he doesn't believe they could ship all their pre-orders by Sept 30 (would require shipping 2800 units a day).
Pre-orders stopped April 5th. You seem to think they need to catch up with everything. Reality check.
April 1st if you count when BFL claims they shipped their first device. But we are talking backlog, not just "pre-orders".You also discount refunds and upgrades.
You said 7PH/s and risingContinue your delusions, I enjoy the laughs.
Guess you didn't take any math courses at MIT huh? *I* said pre-order, YOU said backlog. Semantics, since they mean the same thing in regards to the shipping comment.
Still, TOTAL ORDERBOOK. GUESTIMATE.
And again, you are childish AND purile.
You seem to know how to make an estimate, let's here yours then. You keep telling me what I am doing wrong, show me what is right. I cannot accept your assertions any longer until I see YOUR mathematical proof. Get your pen and paper going. Stop denegrating others and PROVE you are right. You have ALL the infomation you need on that website. I am waiting.
Phinn, one word of advice from a friend: STOP!
This is the thread you worried about? There is far far worse from PG around.
Weirdly, this one is semi-relevant to the forum and is not a scam accusation.
Not worried about any thread. Worried about Phinn's obsession.
OCDer gotta OC I guess.
Phinn, one word of advice from a friend: STOP!
This is the thread you worried about? There is far far worse from PG around.
Weirdly, this one is semi-relevant to the forum and is not a scam accusation.
Not worried about any thread. Worried about Phinn's obsession.
Phinn, one word of advice from a friend: STOP!
This is the thread you worried about? There is far far worse from PG around.
Weirdly, this one is semi-relevant to the forum and is not a scam accusation.
Phinn, one word of advice from a friend: STOP!
It only matters when BFL gets their shipment of chips in. They said it would take 100 days for the chip order. That means they needed to order in late June to get them by the last day in September. That also assumes that it won't be late, like every other thing BFL has attempted.
I doubt they will get the chips by September, but it is possible.
According to bcp19, BFL would have to assemble at least 100,000 devices before sept 30 (since bcp19 believes that BFL has 7PH/s of pre-orders). BFL has said that they can do 300 units per day max. It would take 334 days to process 100,000 units at that rate which means that BFL could not finish their backlog by September. So either bcp19 is way way off in his estimate of BFL pre-orders. Or he doesn't believe they could ship all their pre-orders by Sept 30 (would require shipping 2800 units a day).
I never said 100,000 devices, your lies are getting larger by the day. You still cannot live in reality.I doubt they will get the chips by September, but it is possible.
According to bcp19, BFL would have to assemble at least 100,000 devices before sept 30 (since bcp19 believes that BFL has 7PH/s of pre-orders). BFL has said that they can do 300 units per day max. It would take 334 days to process 100,000 units at that rate which means that BFL could not finish their backlog by September. So either bcp19 is way way off in his estimate of BFL pre-orders. Or he doesn't believe they could ship all their pre-orders by Sept 30 (would require shipping 2800 units a day).
Pre-orders stopped April 5th. You seem to think they need to catch up with everything. Reality check.
April 1st if you count when BFL claims they shipped their first device. But we are talking backlog, not just "pre-orders".You also discount refunds and upgrades.
You said 7PH/s and risingContinue your delusions, I enjoy the laughs.
Guess you didn't take any math courses at MIT huh? It only matters when BFL gets their shipment of chips in. They said it would take 100 days for the chip order. That means they needed to order in late June to get them by the last day in September. That also assumes that it won't be late, like every other thing BFL has attempted.
I doubt they will get the chips by September, but it is possible.
According to bcp19, BFL would have to assemble at least 100,000 devices before sept 30 (since bcp19 believes that BFL has 7PH/s of pre-orders). BFL has said that they can do 300 units per day max. It would take 334 days to process 100,000 units at that rate which means that BFL could not finish their backlog by September. So either bcp19 is way way off in his estimate of BFL pre-orders. Or he doesn't believe they could ship all their pre-orders by Sept 30 (would require shipping 2800 units a day).
I never said 100,000 devices, your lies are getting larger by the day. You still cannot live in reality.I doubt they will get the chips by September, but it is possible.
According to bcp19, BFL would have to assemble at least 100,000 devices before sept 30 (since bcp19 believes that BFL has 7PH/s of pre-orders). BFL has said that they can do 300 units per day max. It would take 334 days to process 100,000 units at that rate which means that BFL could not finish their backlog by September. So either bcp19 is way way off in his estimate of BFL pre-orders. Or he doesn't believe they could ship all their pre-orders by Sept 30 (would require shipping 2800 units a day).
Pre-orders stopped April 5th. You seem to think they need to catch up with everything. Reality check.
You also discount refunds and upgrades.
Continue your delusions, I enjoy the laughs.
It only matters when BFL gets their shipment of chips in. They said it would take 100 days for the chip order. That means they needed to order in late June to get them by the last day in September. That also assumes that it won't be late, like every other thing BFL has attempted.
I doubt they will get the chips by September, but it is possible.
According to bcp19, BFL would have to assemble at least 100,000 devices before sept 30 (since bcp19 believes that BFL has 7PH/s of pre-orders). BFL has said that they can do 300 units per day max. It would take 334 days to process 100,000 units at that rate which means that BFL could not finish their backlog by September. So either bcp19 is way way off in his estimate of BFL pre-orders. Or he doesn't believe they could ship all their pre-orders by Sept 30 (would require shipping 2800 units a day).
I doubt they will get the chips by September, but it is possible.
According to bcp19, BFL would have to assemble at least 100,000 devices before sept 30 (since bcp19 believes that BFL has 7PH/s of pre-orders). BFL has said that they can do 300 units per day max. It would take 334 days to process 100,000 units at that rate which means that BFL could not finish their backlog by September. So either bcp19 is way way off in his estimate of BFL pre-orders. Or he doesn't believe they could ship all their pre-orders by Sept 30 (would require shipping 2800 units a day).
By that definition, the answer is obviously no.
However, the PROPER way to phrase it would be "BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL preorders by September 30, 2013"
Then the answer is yes.
However, the PROPER way to phrase it would be "BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL preorders by September 30, 2013"
Then the answer is yes.
Define "process"
Unless March has an insane amount of Jalapanos ordered, they are coming close to finishing pre-orders on them. That will free up people for the other lines.
Not to worry. They'll just announce a second-gen ASIC product, and push the remaining order holders to "upgrade" their order to the new product.
NostradamusDefine "Nostradamus"!
Not to worry. They'll just announce a second-gen ASIC product, and push the remaining order holders to "upgrade" their order to the new product.
Nostradamus By that definition, the answer is obviously no.
However, the PROPER way to phrase it would be "BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL preorders by September 30, 2013"
Then the answer is yes.
However, the PROPER way to phrase it would be "BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL preorders by September 30, 2013"
Then the answer is yes.
Define "process"
By that definition, the answer is obviously no.
However, the PROPER way to phrase it would be "BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL preorders by September 30, 2013"
Then the answer is yes.
However, the PROPER way to phrase it would be "BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL preorders by September 30, 2013"
Then the answer is yes.
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A Monarch, that miraculously can cancel formerly non cancelable (pre) orders? - Frizz
Go figure eh?
Define backlog.
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Tick tock Josh... time to get out of the forums and back to the production line. People want their refunds oops products.
If I actually see my pre-order on my doorstep, I will belive it.
Until then......bhahahahahaahahaha !
Yea....riiiiight. And, Santa Clause will come on December 25th too....
Oh, ok, let's see who delivers my order first, BFL or Avalon chips shipped...that will be an interesting one...
I'm so friggin screwed it's not even funny...
Until then......bhahahahahaahahaha !
Yea....riiiiight. And, Santa Clause will come on December 25th too....
Oh, ok, let's see who delivers my order first, BFL or Avalon chips shipped...that will be an interesting one...
I'm so friggin screwed it's not even funny...
Even Santa Claus is waiting for his damn jalapenos! THey will process all the backlogs of 2012
All of 2013 orders they will get it next year! BFL is busy bitmining! Santa will be giving a few shady people some coal this season.
Define backlog.
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Looks like they were in play for that $200 million dollar deal. That might have explained some of Josh's hubris, BFL probably didn't realize anyone else was in play.
I obviously don't have that kind of money, but if I did I'd hardly be interested in investing in a company run by someone like that, when clearly there were other options.
I obviously don't have that kind of money, but if I did I'd hardly be interested in investing in a company run by someone like that, when clearly there were other options.
If I actually see my pre-order on my doorstep, I will belive it.
Until then......bhahahahahaahahaha !
Yea....riiiiight. And, Santa Clause will come on December 25th too....
Oh, ok, let's see who delivers my order first, BFL or Avalon chips shipped...that will be an interesting one...
I'm so friggin screwed it's not even funny...
Until then......bhahahahahaahahaha !
Yea....riiiiight. And, Santa Clause will come on December 25th too....
Oh, ok, let's see who delivers my order first, BFL or Avalon chips shipped...that will be an interesting one...
I'm so friggin screwed it's not even funny...
Even Santa Claus is waiting for his damn jalapenos! THey will process all the backlogs of 2012
All of 2013 orders they will get it next year! BFL is busy bitmining! To quote Steve Job's final words, "Wow, wow, wow!"
I thought Steve Job's final words were "WTB new pancreas, serious PMs only"
Do you or do you not have a Blood Type O pancreas in cold storage somewhere?
Talking about body parts reminded me that I officially stated that
"I would eat my own ball sack if they Shipped ALL of the backlog by August"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2410983
I am quote fond of my ball sack so Josh needs to pick up his game if he expects to be sharing in this tasty treat !!
OMG in a totally non gay type of way...its canabilism not gay things ...even though their is nothing wrong with gay things...they are just not my personal lifes choices
Whereas give me a juicy ball sack in a red wine reduction and its DINNER TIME !!...lolz
So Josh for the sake of a tasty meal PLEASE SHIP ALL BACKORDERS in the next 3 weeks and we can both sit down and eat my ball sack together over a nice Grange 68 and discuss how without BFL & especially Josh crypto would be in the dark ages !!!
...lolz
Do you or do you not have a Blood Type O pancreas in cold storage somewhere?
No red nose ? Dubious... I'm inclined to think the guy on the picture is not actually Josh.
To quote Steve Job's final words, "Wow, wow, wow!"
I thought Steve Job's final words were "WTB new pancreas, serious PMs only"
Do you or do you not have a Blood Type O pancreas in cold storage somewhere?
Not to worry. They'll just announce a second-gen ASIC product, and push the remaining order holders to "upgrade" their order to the new product.
I haven't checked to see if your post is factual or not, but the same exact thought crossed the better half of my brain two days ago, almost penning the same yesterday. From BFL's track record, this is exactly their next step unless, of course, the long con ends on September 16, 2013, the day Sonny Vleisides' probation ends for fleecing the elderly outta...
To quote Steve Job's final words, "Wow, wow, wow!"
I thought Steve Job's final words were "WTB new pancreas, serious PMs only"
looks like more people need to complain to the BBB. 
Not to worry. They'll just announce a second-gen ASIC product, and push the remaining order holders to "upgrade" their order to the new product.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/3611-buttefly-company-still-work-not-6.html#post45350
Translated: Our unrealistic timeline will beat any other's unrealistic timeline any day of the week, except Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday in any month that contains a vowel.
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We will easily outpace KNC... even on their current unrealistic timeline.
Translated: Our unrealistic timeline will beat any other's unrealistic timeline any day of the week, except Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday in any month that contains a vowel.
Perhaps josh should place another huge bet like he did last time: http://bitbet.us/bet/472/kncminer-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-october-1st/
Maybe he can make back the money Yifu made betting against him.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/3611-buttefly-company-still-work-not-6.html#post45350
Translated: Our unrealistic timeline will beat any other's unrealistic timeline any day of the week, except Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday in any month that contains a vowel.
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We will easily outpace KNC... even on their current unrealistic timeline.
Translated: Our unrealistic timeline will beat any other's unrealistic timeline any day of the week, except Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday in any month that contains a vowel.
To quote Steve Job's final words, "Wow, wow, wow!"
Dead link.
BBB about to get BFLed.
My 30 GH/s BFL miner says "Don't you believe it!!!!"
Then again, I have a 30 GH/s BFL miner.
Then again, I have a 30 GH/s BFL miner.
You can fool me once or twice but not ten times in a row.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me every two weeks, shame on me. Call me a monumental asshole, and I'll pound nails in your coffin to make sure your ilk never ever see the light of day again.
Everything BFL says is deceitful. They want you to think they said the backlog would be cleared/shipped. All they said was it would be "processed". Processed doesn't mean shipped.
There is no reason to believe anything they say given their track record
You can fool me once or twice but not ten times in a row.
If I actually see my pre-order on my doorstep, I will belive it.
Until then......bhahahahahaahahaha !
Yea....riiiiight. And, Santa Clause will come on December 25th too....
Oh, ok, let's see who delivers my order first, BFL or Avalon chips shipped...that will be an interesting one...
I'm so friggin screwed it's not even funny...
Until then......bhahahahahaahahaha !
Yea....riiiiight. And, Santa Clause will come on December 25th too....
Oh, ok, let's see who delivers my order first, BFL or Avalon chips shipped...that will be an interesting one...
I'm so friggin screwed it's not even funny...
yeah, like it will happen, haha
"Nearly".......?
According to http://www.bbb.org/kansas-city/business-reviews/electronic-equipment-and-supplies-wholesale-and-manufacturers/bf-labs-inc-in-overland-park-ks-1000002011/
Since Butterfly Labs doesn't lie and they would in no way mislead the BBB, we are forced to accept the above as gospel.
My only question is DO YOU BELIEVE?
Fact: Sonny Vleisides' probation is scheduled to end on September 15, 2013, thereby ending his sentence for fleecing the elderly to the tune of tens of millions of dollars with his 15 year running lottery scam. He was never charged with scamming tens of millions more for his in roll in operating Laissez Faire City with his Daddy-O, James Ray Houston, or the sportsbooks scams he single-handedly operated.
To this day, Sonny Vleisides still promotes lottery scams on his webspawner.com site.
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Customers have complained about delays in receiving pre-ordered products. The company has responded by stating that they do not issue refunds after the build process on the new product has begun. According to a letter sent to customers, refunds would no longer available after April 1, 2013. The company claims that nearly all backlogs will be processed by September 30, 2013.
Since Butterfly Labs doesn't lie and they would in no way mislead the BBB, we are forced to accept the above as gospel.
My only question is DO YOU BELIEVE?
Fact: Sonny Vleisides' probation is scheduled to end on September 15, 2013, thereby ending his sentence for fleecing the elderly to the tune of tens of millions of dollars with his 15 year running lottery scam. He was never charged with scamming tens of millions more for his in roll in operating Laissez Faire City with his Daddy-O, James Ray Houston, or the sportsbooks scams he single-handedly operated.
To this day, Sonny Vleisides still promotes lottery scams on his webspawner.com site.
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