Topic: BFL ASIC Production Updates 2013 (Updated May 13) (Read 3241 times)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ1G1uRdYVc

Another day, another difficulty increase and NO hardware.  Such clown shoes.

What kind of person would order from BFL currently.  There is hope and then there is stupid. 

FTC?
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov

Chances are very good that there'll getting low on cash, for legally they can't touch a single penny of the pre-order dollars until they start shipping out en mass.

Isn't there a single entity that can be contacted to audit their books to make sure the funds are still safe in case all moneys needed to be returned?

I will give away (as a gift) 25 cents (to get a clue) to the first person who makes a thread (as a BFL shill only) that says BFL is expected to ship 500 units by May 20th.

Because, as we all know, they will ship at least that many by the 20th....right?

(Master BFL Shill)

+1

Wait I haven't been following this too closely...

Didn't BFL say they were shipping, April 1st?

Wasn't there like a big bet or something that they won because they were shipping?

It seems to me like they are still trying to get a production-ready prototype designed. Wouldn't that mean they are sort of far off any sort of reasonable amount of shipping to customers?

/sarcasm set to '11'

And yet people still "buy" BFL "products".

As a miner, I love BFL. If only ASICMiner had as much trouble delivering. 

Personally I'm amazed that people still have the will to troll BFL. At this point it's not even funny what they (BFL) are doing, it's just flat out sad.

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Is this the final tailspin of BFL?

Tune in next time on DragonFly Z!

I wonder if BFL is doing samples because they no longer have the cash to pay for a full production run.
If they are making changes to the chips (the only non-cash reason I can think of (without coffee) for still doing sample runs) then they still have to pay for a new mask and full production run. Those are pricey, and BFL may have burned all it's cash.

After all, top flight product managers don't come cheap! 

Forget your lost profit. Get a refund to at least save your investment.

how can i make my money back? that's the only thing what i am thinging now

sadly they're are still in dev mode

Should have stormed their castle, torches and pitchforks in hand, weeks ago.

Josh is a poster child for Dunning–Kruger effect...

Well the other variation is they have ordered all the chips and are now sending faulty chips everywhere.

Uh oh. More bad news for BFL customers

I figure that once the boards are ready and the chips are tested, this means they need approximately 8-10 weeks BEFORE they can start PRODUCTION in full.

Because that is how long it takes.

In case no one has figured out the subtle messages...It means BFL is still in the testing phase. A full wafer is 1,100 chips according to josh. You only package 100 chips when you are only asking for a sample. Meaning they are trying to save money and probably doing individual wafers. If you take that idea into account, the rest of their recent updates make sense as to why they are evolving so slowly. They are saving money at the expense of time, it seems.

For miners time is money.

Josh has also said that board revisions only take 24 to 48 hours. Recall that he said that last month. Did this revision of PCB's (boards) take 24 to 48 hours? No. It did not.

Learn to read past the bullshit and you will be a smart investor.

To those who know about chips and wafers....100 chips means it is a sample of a wafer.

That means that BFL is still trying to tackle the issue of power consumption. Effectively (I think) it means that they are doing only samples. They haven't....and likely aren't....going into full scale production for quite some time.

Forget May. Aim for Mid June. We hope.

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the third annual BFL 100, sponsored by Two Men and a Swarm of Locust: When it absolutely, positively, Honest Abe, has to be shipped out on time.

you had me crackin with this one! haha!

Josh doesn't view their current timeline of delays as "setting things back".

Meaning they are "on track" as previously planned? Planned delays? lol

Josh is a clown---

Don't worry, BFL will ship "next week". 

"poking" - that's what I used to do with my car tyres.... I wished they would ship my 2012 orders now....so tired of waiting.

Good to see that BFL is significantly ramping up chip production. With 100 chips they should have no issues cranking out 400 units per day. Delays are sure to be a thing of the past from now on!

100?

Wow... that is not an update at all that is an apology.


Right now, the board is having trouble powering up the second bank of chips, so we are poking and prodding to figure out where the problem is and get it corrected. When we make a change to a board, we can have a revised board the next day, so it doesn't really set things back when we make revisions to an already existing board.


It doesn't REALLY set things back ??

So only 100 chips?

I was under the impression they were ordering a ton more via wafers of them.

It is unnerving that almost every detail they specify is vague. They do not know what larger quantity of chips they will be getting. The "shoulds" and "hopefully's" are getting old. A development company should not be based on faith and hope. But that is what is expected right now.

All trolling aside, this update does not give much hope for shipping of their back orders en masse to be done anytime soon (i.e. in the next 30 days).

(Reserved)

(Rather than posting new threads, figured I should probably start one long master thread of updates until they start shipping singles. Will aim to keep these first two posts full of "official" information culled from the BFL Forums until Singles start flowing out to customers. Will aim to keep this thread troll-free as there are plenty other troll threads in this sub.)

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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html#post32585


BFL_Josh: 13 May 2013 Update

We just got off the phone with our testing facility... they will have ~100 chips in Chicago tomorrow. What configuration of boards all those are going in, I'm not sure yet as I haven't gotten that far, but I wanted to post an update. We should have more chips in Chicago by the end of the week. The chips going through mounting tomorrow should arrive in KC on Wednesday and we'll be shipping out some units then.

We are having some trouble with the new Single board and we are working through the issues now and should hopefully have a a resolution before the end of the week. Right now, the board is having trouble powering up the second bank of chips, so we are poking and prodding to figure out where the problem is and get it corrected. When we make a change to a board, we can have a revised board the next day, so it doesn't really set things back when we make revisions to an already existing board.

That said, we'll likely be creating a few Singles boards with this set of chips and a number of Jalapeno's. The expected larger quantity of chips later in the week will probably go more towards LS/S/MR boards.

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