BFL ships a whole month of Little Singles in 2 days

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Quote from: surebet on August 13, 2013, 09:40:16 PM

According to http://bfl.ptz.ro/

Jalapeno: 3575 ordered, 788 shipped, 2787 remaining, 22.04% fulfilled.
Little single: 1230 ordered, 87 shipped, 1143 shipped, 7.07% fulfilled.
Single: 2678 ordered, 233 shipped, 2445 remaining, 8.70% fulfilled.
Mini rig: 185 ordered, 25 shipped (to Josh), 160 remaining, 13.51% fulfilled.

My guess is that the fulfilment rate is reaaaaally overstated since sales went out of the community more and more with the massive ad campaign BFL had earlier.

Care to correct these numbers Josh? Don't be shy!

If BFL had solid numbers to report, they would. They have never been shy about broadcasting good things about their operations.

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Quote from: surebet on August 13, 2013, 09:40:16 PM

According to http://bfl.ptz.ro/

Jalapeno: 3575 ordered, 788 shipped, 2787 remaining, 22.04% fulfilled.
Little single: 1230 ordered, 87 shipped, 1143 shipped, 7.07% fulfilled.
Single: 2678 ordered, 233 shipped, 2445 remaining, 8.70% fulfilled.
Mini rig: 185 ordered, 25 shipped (to Josh), 160 remaining, 13.51% fulfilled.

My guess is that the fulfilment rate is reaaaaally overstated since sales went out of the community more and more with the massive ad campaign BFL had earlier.

Care to correct these numbers Josh? Don't be shy!

I asked Josh just the other day a similar question. He apparently is flush with innuendo's but a little lacking on solid numbers to back things up at this point.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2913623

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According to http://bfl.ptz.ro/

Jalapeno: 3575 ordered, 788 shipped, 2787 remaining, 22.04% fulfilled.
Little single: 1230 ordered, 87 shipped, 1143 shipped, 7.07% fulfilled.
Single: 2678 ordered, 233 shipped, 2445 remaining, 8.70% fulfilled.
Mini rig: 185 ordered, 25 shipped (to Josh), 160 remaining, 13.51% fulfilled.

My guess is that the fulfilment rate is reaaaaally overstated since sales went out of the community more and more with the massive ad campaign BFL had earlier.

Care to correct these numbers Josh? Don't be shy!

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order 2013, shipping in "Two Weeks "TM

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Mark my words, some day in the very near future Jody will pen something akin to the following:

Quote

Monday, ?, 2013 Shipping Update
by BFL_Jody , ?-?-2013 at 07:55 PM

Jalapenos: ?, 2012 pay date (0)

Little Singles: ?, 2012 pay date (0)

Singles: ?, 2012 pay date (0)

MiniRigs: ?, 2012 for the first round of 500gh/s units; NONE shipped from the second round

Due to a situation beyond our control, no units were shipped today. The good news is no other ASIC-based mining outfit shipped today either. We were able to address more of the customer service concerns: Desk #1 address her emails to Desk #2; Desk #3 address support tickets to Desk #4; Desk #4 and Desk #2 rerouted their inquiries to...

Tomorrow is a new day, and we should be able to ship, but if not there will be a reason, thus rest assure one will be provided.

Like this one: http://financialaccountingservices.webspawner.com/

Somebody needs to keep taps on the auctions, to make sure Josh doesn't all of a sudden quit submitting bids. BTW, when was the time BFL won one? I haven't seen an ad lately with the exception of the ones Sonny Vleisides continues to run on the lottery and financial pages of his Webspawner.com site that read...wait for it...ORDER NOW! (not pre-order now)

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Quote from: dudeofthestick on August 03, 2013, 10:01:00 AM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on August 02, 2013, 10:40:37 PM

Quote from: dudeofthestick on August 02, 2013, 08:59:33 AM

Just about 100.

BFL is broken. They don't have enough money to deliver the amount of devices from preorders quickly and hence they can compete with other ASIC companies gaining new customers to cover the financial hole under their feet. A catch 22.

I seriously doubt I will ever get my preorder.

Speaking of blowing through money, currently BFL is payout $17,500/wk in payroll alone. (35 employees X $500)

Even at 22 employees for the past year since Josh has been on board, BFL paid out no less than $572,000 in wages. (22 X 500 X 52)

With 60,000+ units ordered, and no proof that even 10K of them have been manufactured, Josh still has the balls to state that the backorder will be filled by the end of September.

Josh wouldn't be in this mess if he hadn't opted to reward the temp assemblers with a cookout, serving up the horde of locusts, thus forever disrupting the shipping department

I think they are spending all the payments made with fiat, but keeping all the payments made with bitcoins. They are so exhausted of the crazy year since the announce they could build ASICS back in 2012, that they no longer want to keep on pushing to build a good supply chain.

They have decided they will run the company with the cash from fiat until last dollar. Once they have run out of cash, they will file for bankruptcy... But will keep the anonymous and easy to launder bitcoins for them.

Sounds diabolic, but normally when you are in business if you think badly you are right (don't know if this is a good translation from Spanish...).

If Josh wants to bet against me that I'm wrong, I would take the bet. It seems he is not very good on gambling and bets...

they didn't even need to hide it. They could've bought the BTC at the old exchange rates for themselves then took the fiat they paid in exchange for the BTC and simply paid it back to themselves as salaries then rinse and repeat as many times as BTC coming in.

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Got my LS today. I honestly wasn't expecting it for a few more weeks judging by how slow everything was shipping. Waited a year, but it'll make me thousands over the next few months. It was/is a profitable investment. Props for BFL finally shipping and holding true to their word (even though it took them a long time to follow through with it). Can't wait for my next orders to start coming in.

All in all, I'm a fairly happy customer. Will look forward to ordering even more stuff once they've caught up and the prices do back down.

Hey Josh, if you are reading this, when do you (speaking from personal opinion, not on the companies behalf) think the prices will come down? The current ROI isn't favorable right now. Even with my 25% discount. Was hoping some time towards the end of this year.

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Quote from: Inaba on August 02, 2013, 08:58:35 PM

I'm just going to quote this for later use so I can laugh at k9quaint 3 years down the road.

Fixed that for you

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on August 02, 2013, 10:40:37 PM

Quote from: dudeofthestick on August 02, 2013, 08:59:33 AM

Just about 100.

BFL is broken. They don't have enough money to deliver the amount of devices from preorders quickly and hence they can compete with other ASIC companies gaining new customers to cover the financial hole under their feet. A catch 22.

I seriously doubt I will ever get my preorder.

Speaking of blowing through money, currently BFL is payout $17,500/wk in payroll alone. (35 employees X $500)

Even at 22 employees for the past year since Josh has been on board, BFL paid out no less than $572,000 in wages. (22 X 500 X 52)

With 60,000+ units ordered, and no proof that even 10K of them have been manufactured, Josh still has the balls to state that the backorder will be filled by the end of September.

Josh wouldn't be in this mess if he hadn't opted to reward the temp assemblers with a cookout, serving up the horde of locusts, thus forever disrupting the shipping department

I think they are spending all the payments made with fiat, but keeping all the payments made with bitcoins. They are so exhausted of the crazy year since the announce they could build ASICS back in 2012, that they no longer want to keep on pushing to build a good supply chain.

They have decided they will run the company with the cash from fiat until last dollar. Once they have run out of cash, they will file for bankruptcy... But will keep the anonymous and easy to launder bitcoins for them.

Sounds diabolic, but normally when you are in business if you think badly you are right (don't know if this is a good translation from Spanish...).

If Josh wants to bet against me that I'm wrong, I would take the bet. It seems he is not very good on gambling and bets...

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Quote from: scambutterflylabs on August 03, 2013, 02:20:55 AM

quote BFL jody

"1 AUGUST - Singles: All shipped through June 26
2 AUGUST - Singles: Not many--still at June 26"

Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story

It reminds me of filling out my timesheets in SPIRA...its an artistic exercise where what sounds and looks nice is the order of the day

Reality is for losers...!!!

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quote BFL jody

"1 AUGUST - Singles: All shipped through June 26
2 AUGUST - Singles: Not many--still at June 26"

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Quote from: Inaba on August 02, 2013, 08:58:35 PM

Quote from: k9quaint on August 02, 2013, 06:12:01 PM

Quote from: Rival on August 02, 2013, 08:05:15 AM

The first month may only represent a hundred or so miners.

It might be 10 little singles. It might be 1.
BFL refuses to say how many units have shipped. That means it is an embarrassingly low amount. If it was a large number, they would be bragging (they post pictures whenever they have more than 20 units together in one place). Josh is furious at the naysayers on bitcointalk.org, he swears at them, insults them, draws pictures of them, and probably gnaws on his mouse while he types. Could you picture for a moment Josh refusing to post proof that BFL can do 300 units a day if it existed?

Whenever BFL wants to post a picture of 50 units together, they could just hold shipments up for a few days.

I'm just going to quote this for later use so I can laugh at k9quaint a little more down the road.

Don't want him and editing and deleting it at some point...

Josh I hope that you realize what an idiot you are right? You single handedly ruined BFL as a business, even if you guys somehow magically deliver everything, people will never buy from your company ever again, because of you.

Once professional companies pop up, you guys are done, you could of at least had a chance if you weren't such a dick, but hey incompetence breeds incompetence, who ever made the decision to put you in charge of community liaison, is a complete moron. Especially after witnessing you act the way you do, any normal sane company would of fired you on the spot. Congrats on destroying a whole business, you assclown. lmao

Maybe when companies need to sabotage themselves they can hire you.

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Quote from: Inaba on August 02, 2013, 08:58:35 PM

Quote from: k9quaint on August 02, 2013, 06:12:01 PM

Quote from: Rival on August 02, 2013, 08:05:15 AM

The first month may only represent a hundred or so miners.

It might be 10 little singles. It might be 1.
BFL refuses to say how many units have shipped. That means it is an embarrassingly low amount. If it was a large number, they would be bragging (they post pictures whenever they have more than 20 units together in one place). Josh is furious at the naysayers on bitcointalk.org, he swears at them, insults them, draws pictures of them, and probably gnaws on his mouse while he types. Could you picture for a moment Josh refusing to post proof that BFL can do 300 units a day if it existed?

Whenever BFL wants to post a picture of 50 units together, they could just hold shipments up for a few days.

I'm just going to quote this for later use so I can laugh at k9quaint a little more down the road.

Don't want him and editing and deleting it at some point...

I'm just going to quote this for later in case I ever need an extra and.

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Quote from: dudeofthestick on August 02, 2013, 08:59:33 AM

Just about 100.

BFL is broken. They don't have enough money to deliver the amount of devices from preorders quickly and hence they can compete with other ASIC companies gaining new customers to cover the financial hole under their feet. A catch 22.

I seriously doubt I will ever get my preorder.

Speaking of blowing through money, currently BFL is payout $17,500/wk in payroll alone. (35 employees X $500)

Even at 22 employees for the past year since Josh has been on board, BFL paid out no less than $572,000 in wages. (22 X 500 X 52)

With 60,000+ units ordered, and no proof that even 10K of them have been manufactured, Josh still has the balls to state that the backorder will be filled by the end of September.

Josh wouldn't be in this mess if he hadn't opted to reward the temp assemblers with a cookout, serving up the horde of locusts, thus forever disrupting the shipping department

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Quote from: Inaba on August 02, 2013, 08:58:35 PM

Quote from: k9quaint on August 02, 2013, 06:12:01 PM

Quote from: Rival on August 02, 2013, 08:05:15 AM

The first month may only represent a hundred or so miners.

It might be 10 little singles. It might be 1.
BFL refuses to say how many units have shipped. That means it is an embarrassingly low amount. If it was a large number, they would be bragging (they post pictures whenever they have more than 20 units together in one place). Josh is furious at the naysayers on bitcointalk.org, he swears at them, insults them, draws pictures of them, and probably gnaws on his mouse while he types. Could you picture for a moment Josh refusing to post proof that BFL can do 300 units a day if it existed?

Whenever BFL wants to post a picture of 50 units together, they could just hold shipments up for a few days.

I'm just going to quote this for later use so I can laugh at k9quaint a little more down the road.

Don't want him and editing and deleting it at some point...

I don't need to quote this for things to laugh at Josh about. There are thousands of posts rampant with his idiocy to choose from.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Inaba

YES, you can get a REFUND from BFL

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Quote from: k9quaint on August 02, 2013, 06:12:01 PM

Quote from: Rival on August 02, 2013, 08:05:15 AM

The first month may only represent a hundred or so miners.

It might be 10 little singles. It might be 1.
BFL refuses to say how many units have shipped. That means it is an embarrassingly low amount. If it was a large number, they would be bragging (they post pictures whenever they have more than 20 units together in one place). Josh is furious at the naysayers on bitcointalk.org, he swears at them, insults them, draws pictures of them, and probably gnaws on his mouse while he types. Could you picture for a moment Josh refusing to post proof that BFL can do 300 units a day if it existed?

Whenever BFL wants to post a picture of 50 units together, they could just hold shipments up for a few days.

I'm just going to quote this for later use so I can laugh at k9quaint a little more down the road.

Don't want him and editing and deleting it at some point...

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Quote from: k9quaint on August 02, 2013, 06:12:01 PM

Quote from: Rival on August 02, 2013, 08:05:15 AM

The first month may only represent a hundred or so miners.

It might be 10 little singles. It might be 1.
BFL refuses to say how many units have shipped. That means it is an embarrassingly low amount. If it was a large number, they would be bragging (they post pictures whenever they have more than 20 units together in one place). Josh is furious at the naysayers on bitcointalk.org, he swears at them, insults them, draws pictures of them, and probably gnaws on his mouse while he types. Could you picture for a moment Josh refusing to post proof that BFL can do 300 units a day if it existed?

Whenever BFL wants to post a picture of 50 units together, they could just hold shipments up for a few days.

Let me put my Big Boy Pants on so I can understand what you are trying to say...

k9quaint

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Quote from: Rival on August 02, 2013, 08:05:15 AM

The first month may only represent a hundred or so miners.

It might be 10 little singles. It might be 1.
BFL refuses to say how many units have shipped. That means it is an embarrassingly low amount. If it was a large number, they would be bragging (they post pictures whenever they have more than 20 units together in one place). Josh is furious at the naysayers on bitcointalk.org, he swears at them, insults them, draws pictures of them, and probably gnaws on his mouse while he types. Could you picture for a moment Josh refusing to post proof that BFL can do 300 units a day if it existed?

Whenever BFL wants to post a picture of 50 units together, they could just hold shipments up for a few days.

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Quote from: Threader on August 02, 2013, 05:50:27 PM

AsicMiner greed I can easily forgive. They sell a same day shipping product that you can make an informed decision on ROI before sending your cash.

How can you compare that to the chasm of unknown that BFL is selling? There is no way to know what your ROI on investment. No way.

I prefer the devil I know to the one I don't know.

One definitely mugs you off now, one may mug you off, or pull it out the bag, yet many willingly prefer to take the definite option in being mugged off now. At least BFL gave you the option of paying by credit-card.

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Quote from: Bitcoinorama on August 02, 2013, 05:35:46 PM

Quote from: suprabitz on August 02, 2013, 05:28:38 PM

if you dont get one in the next 3-4 months it will never roi... already asicminer usb sticks are only 2x the price per Gh of jalapeno. Given that their new blades are coming out soon at probably a cheaper $/Gh than the usb sticks we will see a lot of people getting hardware with BFL in the latter part of this year that never ROIs.

Yet it worries no one that a device which is a year over it's proposed delivery time still has a better chance of ROI than any product ASICminer sell intentionally at such price point...

I'm more forgiving to incompetence than greed.

Technically BFL starting taking pre-orders (and full payment) over a year ago but since their initial proposed delivery was Oct/Nov 2012 they technically haven't hit the one year shipping delay mark, yet. I have no doubt a lot of customer will reach that special anniversary but you jumped the gun slightly ATM.

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AsicMiner greed I can easily forgive. They sell a same day shipping product that you can make an informed decision on ROI before sending your cash.

How can you compare that to the chasm of unknown that BFL is selling? There is no way to know what your ROI on investment. No way.

I prefer the devil I know to the one I don't know.

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Quote from: suprabitz on August 02, 2013, 05:28:38 PM

if you dont get one in the next 3-4 months it will never roi... already asicminer usb sticks are only 2x the price per Gh of jalapeno. Given that their new blades are coming out soon at probably a cheaper $/Gh than the usb sticks we will see a lot of people getting hardware with BFL in the latter part of this year that never ROIs.

Yet it worries no one that a device which is a year over it's proposed delivery time still has a better chance of ROI than any product ASICminer sell intentionally at such price point...

I'm more forgiving to incompetence than greed.

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if you dont get one in the next 3-4 months it will never roi... already asicminer usb sticks are only 2x the price per Gh of jalapeno. Given that their new blades are coming out soon at probably a cheaper $/Gh than the usb sticks we will see a lot of people getting hardware with BFL in the latter part of this year that never ROIs.

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Little singles were not available for purchase in the first month. Roll Eyes

Only people that upgraded jalapenos got little singles so there couldn't have been that many ordered within the first few months.

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Quote from: Rival on August 02, 2013, 08:05:15 AM

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

yes, i know there were less Little Singles ordered than pretty much anything else. The first month may only represent a hundred or so miners, but that is just the current consensus guess. If this rate could be maintained (an unlikely stretch) then a unit ordered today would be delivered by the end of the month.

Not trying to be a shill here, but any time someone actually delivers substantial hashing power it is certainly news worthy. That is somewhere around 2.5 Th/s plug and play ready about to come online in the next few days.

I saw that (surprising) blog entry also. I have an order dated July 7, 2012 for an LS. My order status has not changed on the BFL site though - no hint of "processing" or "shipped" or whatever. It seems to be stuck in the "express shipping upgrade" fiasco from months ago, when many of us paid for an upgrade with BTC but saw no credit for our payment. A support ticket submitted back then remains unanswered.

I'm not quite ready to celebrate yet.

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Biggest long con in the BTC world yet still the fan boys applaude,
my guess is March 2014, Chapter 14,
cash flow never lies,

cheers
kev

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Quote from: Rival on August 02, 2013, 09:32:07 AM

Quote from: Flying Hellfish on August 02, 2013, 09:15:33 AM

A whole 2.5TH/s, not even 2 original minirigs worth of hashing power and this is good new?

Good news for around 100 people. I wish them godspeed and good hashing.

And the next 100 people since they dont have 100 people in front of them anymore. and so on and so on.

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Quote from: Flying Hellfish on August 02, 2013, 09:15:33 AM

A whole 2.5TH/s, not even 2 original minirigs worth of hashing power and this is good new?

Good news for around 100 people. I wish them godspeed and good hashing.

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Quote from: Rival on August 02, 2013, 08:05:15 AM

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

yes, i know there were less Little Singles ordered than pretty much anything else. The first month may only represent a hundred or so miners, but that is just the current consensus guess. If this rate could be maintained (an unlikely stretch) then a unit ordered today would be delivered by the end of the month.

Not trying to be a shill here, but any time someone actually delivers substantial hashing power it is certainly news worthy. That is somewhere around 2.5 Th/s plug and play ready about to come online in the next few days.

A whole 2.5TH/s, not even 2 original minirigs worth of hashing power and this is good new?

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Well considering first week of singles probably makes up a large chunk of the backlog I'd think that decent news. Still not the 400/day lol. After that first week, singles order per day is probably like averaging 2-3 for the backlog till april?

But who knows, they might have blown their load of chips on boards with that push. Without knowing what supplies they have we'll never know. It's still its painfully obvious to me at least, that the bottleneck is getting chips on boards in. Power supplies are an afterthought.

And I for one don't think a company that can make miners will run out of money if you catch my drift. Close up and run off, maybe. Run out of money? Sure, if BTC prices drop to zero overnight.

Here's to October guys and gals, gonna be a fun month with all that hash coming online. Just in time to heat up homes for the fall/winter.

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Just about 100.

BFL is broken. They don't have enough money to deliver the amount of devices from preorders quickly and hence they can compete with other ASIC companies gaining new customers to cover the financial hole under their feet. A catch 22.

I seriously doubt I will ever get my preorder.

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Quote from: Rival on August 02, 2013, 08:05:15 AM

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

yes, i know there were less Little Singles ordered than pretty much anything else. The first month may only represent a hundred or so miners, but that is just the current consensus guess. If this rate could be maintained (an unlikely stretch) then a unit ordered today would be delivered by the end of the month.

Not trying to be a shill here, but any time someone actually delivers substantial hashing power it is certainly news worthy. That is somewhere around 2.5 Th/s plug and play ready about to come online in the next few days.

To ship a month of LS in a day they needed only ship less than 100, so what's the big deal.
Ship a months worth of SINGLES in a day or two and we will be impressed.

Bottom line, still shipping less than 100 units a day, today they did little singles. Big deal

They don't have enough resources (people, parts) to do anything in volume.

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And single orders are still shipped from the first week. BFL made a great lottery here. How about the 1/3 shipping plan?!

Well for me the single was the first and the last time I bought something from BFL.

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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

yes, i know there were less Little Singles ordered than pretty much anything else. The first month may only represent a hundred or so miners, but that is just the current consensus guess. If this rate could be maintained (an unlikely stretch) then a unit ordered today would be delivered by the end of the month.

Not trying to be a shill here, but any time someone actually delivers substantial hashing power it is certainly news worthy. That is somewhere around 2.5 Th/s plug and play ready about to come online in the next few days.

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