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I don't think it's the biggest mystery in the area tech. but... anyway if you're on bitcointalk it's without a doubt the biggest.

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Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 25, 2022, 03:08:51 AM

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Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 23, 2022, 06:37:15 AM

Of course I can backup everything I have said in the Bitcoin Talk Forum. What kind of proof of Evidence do you want ?

I am not here to make joke or troll anyone. I am not here to convince any one to believe what I reveal. If you are curious then do your diligent research and find Satoshi Nakamoto. If you do not find him then come back to me and ask me and I will reveal to you, who is Satoshi Nakamoto and who am I ?

Doxxing of forum members is not allowed on this forum but members can dox his/herself. You said you have a piece of evidence about who Satoshi Nakamoto is then I believe you should know the proper evidence you can provide to make people on this forum believe you're not joking or trolling because all the previous evidence provided about Satoshi is just a prognosis.

You are right. No one has rights and responsibilities doxing others' identities. I think every one's in this forum should respect each person's privacy and speak and debate all matters under the principles of good manners.

Everything you said here is one of the rules and regulations of this forum which every member must abide with.

Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 25, 2022, 03:08:51 AM

Only journalists and the Governments agents have the rights and responsibilities to find out all hidden matters to news media and government's knowledge.

The journalist and the government agent also have a certain extent which will require a warrant before doing some research to find out the hidden matters of some cases.

Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 25, 2022, 03:08:51 AM

But in the case of Bitcoin invention the journalists and governments agents have not any real interest to find out the real Bitcoin invention mystery and doxing its investor's identity. There is hidden mystery regarding, why the journalists around the world have failed to find the Bitcoin inventor.

No, I don't know about the government because they always set some team in which everything they do or research must is classified but there are some investigative journalists who have a real interest in revealing the identity of the real Satoshi.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 23, 2022, 08:21:44 AM

Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 23, 2022, 06:37:15 AM

Of course I can backup everything I have said in the Bitcoin Talk Forum. What kind of proof of Evidence do you want ?

I am not here to make joke or troll anyone. I am not here to convince any one to believe what I reveal. If you are curious then do your diligent research and find Satoshi Nakamoto. If you do not find him then come back to me and ask me and I will reveal to you, who is Satoshi Nakamoto and who am I ?

Doxxing of forum members is not allowed on this forum but members can dox his/herself. You said you have a piece of evidence about who Satoshi Nakamoto is then I believe you should know the proper evidence you can provide to make people on this forum believe you're not joking or trolling because all the previous evidence provided about Satoshi is just a prognosis.

You are right. No one has rights and responsibilities doxing others' identities. I think every one's in this forum should respect each person's privacy and speak and debate all matters under the principles of good manners.

Only journalists and the Governments agents have the rights and responsibilities to find out all hidden matters to news media and government's knowledge. But in the case of Bitcoin invention the journalists and governments agents have not any real interest to find out the real Bitcoin invention mystery and doxing its investor's identity. There is hidden mystery regarding, why the journalists around the world have failed to find the Bitcoin inventor.

Even though, it is a crude truth that government agents know the whole matter but they are under a classified order not to reveal any information about Bitcoin invention and its inventor pseudonimous Satoshi Nakamoto. The important issue here in this thread is 'the biggest mystery' reffer to the Bitcoin inventor, which is just an interesting matter for ordinary forum members and general readers. May be few other intered parties from the central banking families are trying to know the facts behind Bitcoin and its success.

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Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 23, 2022, 06:37:15 AM

Of course I can backup everything I have said in the Bitcoin Talk Forum. What kind of proof of Evidence do you want ?

I am not here to make joke or troll anyone. I am not here to convince any one to believe what I reveal. If you are curious then do your diligent research and find Satoshi Nakamoto. If you do not find him then come back to me and ask me and I will reveal to you, who is Satoshi Nakamoto and who am I ?

Doxxing of forum members is not allowed on this forum but members can dox his/herself. You said you have a piece of evidence about who Satoshi Nakamoto is then I believe you should know the proper evidence you can provide to make people on this forum believe you're not joking or trolling because all the previous evidence provided about Satoshi is just a prognosis.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 21, 2022, 06:36:17 PM

Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 21, 2022, 02:35:35 PM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 21, 2022, 12:59:25 PM

The government is always thirsty for power and their aim is to have total control. If they are satisfied with centralized exchange being in their control then it takes them nothing to legalize Bitcoin as a legal payment method.
If Satoshi's identity is revealed today there are 2 major risks we should expect, him ^(Satoshi) being in danger and the chance of the government intervening further in the market.

No, Governments are not interested to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Governments already knows the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

Can you back up what you said with a piece of evidence? If the government already knows who the real Satoshi Nakamoto is. Why is Craig Wright not behind bars for impersonation and scamming the people who believe he's Satoshi by investing in his scamcoin?

Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 21, 2022, 02:35:35 PM

It is not the Governments but the central banking Elites are interested to know how a single man has challenged the financial system by creating the decentraluzed financial service industry ?

After all Governments or the Central Bankers are not the problem for Satoshi Nakamoto but the truth is the Bitcoin community leaders, those who are greedy for power and money are problem of Satoshi Nakamoto.

The major hindrance of Bitcoin is still the government because the Central Bank is established by the Federal government and the stance of the Federal government towards BTC is what will determine what other government organizations will do. When the El Salvador President legalized BTC as a legal tender. Does any government body change it?
I don't know what you're trying to say that some people are greedy for power and money in the BTC community because the ecosystem of Bitcoin was built on decentralization and consensus.

Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 21, 2022, 02:35:35 PM

Satoshi Nakamoto is reading this thread and responding for clarification. Some of you are right and some of you are wrong in your personal judgement.

Satoshi Nakamoto suppose to revealed his identity in 14 February 2020 but the opponents stopped him to reveal his identity.

If Satoshi Nakamoto reveal his identity now, then nothing will happen. There will be no change but the market reverse as normal and Bitcoin price will grow faster.

I don't agree with all this.

Of course I can backup everything I have said in the Bitcoin Talk Forum. What kind of proof of Evidence do you want ?

I am not here to make joke or troll anyone. I am not here to convince any one to believe what I reveal. If you are curious then do your diligent research and find Satoshi Nakamoto. If you do not find him then come back to me and ask me and I will reveal to you, who is Satoshi Nakamoto and who am I ?

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Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 21, 2022, 02:35:35 PM

No, Governments are not interested to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Governments already knows the real Satoshi Nakamoto. ~

Is there any proof to confirm your statement? As far as I know, if the government knows about Nakamoto's identity, the news will spread soon throughout the world.

Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 21, 2022, 02:35:35 PM

~ It is not the Governments but the central banking Elites are interested to know how a single man has challenged the financial system by creating the decentraluzed financial service industry ? ~

Looks like you are 100% sure that Satoshi Nakamoto is "somebody", isn't there a possibility that's the name of a group? Or maybe a country that really wants to create this system, that's also possible, right?

I feel like this discussion is expired, but I just want to make sure that you don't make a wild statement.

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Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 21, 2022, 02:35:35 PM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 21, 2022, 12:59:25 PM

The government is always thirsty for power and their aim is to have total control. If they are satisfied with centralized exchange being in their control then it takes them nothing to legalize Bitcoin as a legal payment method.
If Satoshi's identity is revealed today there are 2 major risks we should expect, him ^(Satoshi) being in danger and the chance of the government intervening further in the market.

No, Governments are not interested to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Governments already knows the real Satoshi Nakamoto.

Can you back up what you said with a piece of evidence? If the government already knows who the real Satoshi Nakamoto is. Why is Craig Wright not behind bars for impersonation and scamming the people who believe he's Satoshi by investing in his scamcoin?

Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 21, 2022, 02:35:35 PM

It is not the Governments but the central banking Elites are interested to know how a single man has challenged the financial system by creating the decentraluzed financial service industry ?

After all Governments or the Central Bankers are not the problem for Satoshi Nakamoto but the truth is the Bitcoin community leaders, those who are greedy for power and money are problem of Satoshi Nakamoto.

The major hindrance of Bitcoin is still the government because the Central Bank is established by the Federal government and the stance of the Federal government towards BTC is what will determine what other government organizations will do. When the El Salvador President legalized BTC as a legal tender. Does any government body change it?
I don't know what you're trying to say that some people are greedy for power and money in the BTC community because the ecosystem of Bitcoin was built on decentralization and consensus.

Quote from: BitcoinMoses on October 21, 2022, 02:35:35 PM

Satoshi Nakamoto is reading this thread and responding for clarification. Some of you are right and some of you are wrong in your personal judgement.

Satoshi Nakamoto suppose to revealed his identity in 14 February 2020 but the opponents stopped him to reveal his identity.

If Satoshi Nakamoto reveal his identity now, then nothing will happen. There will be no change but the market reverse as normal and Bitcoin price will grow faster.

I don't agree with all this.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 21, 2022, 12:59:25 PM

Quote from: LittleBitFunny on October 20, 2022, 11:11:05 PM

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 15, 2022, 05:12:53 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 14, 2022, 11:24:48 PM

I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.

Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

The government will bring Satoshi to explain in more detail about his project and maybe the government will force him to give his wallet containing lots of bitcoins to the government. This will change everything because the government can easily interfere in the market because they have access to many bitcoins. Satoshi himself may experience unpleasant things while under government supervision because the government will make sure that Satoshi supports them.

If he shows up, the government will certainly interrogate and mine bitcoin news, but I'm not sure if the government can intervene further in the market. If they want to own a lot of bitcoins now they can do it whenever, centralized exchanges are now under their control who own bitcoins but public identities like Saylor, tesla ... are all within their control.
I think the safety of satoshi is the main issue when his identity is revealed not bitcoin as bitcoin works independently not dependent on anyone including its creator, satoshi.

The government is always thirsty for power and their aim is to have total control. If they are satisfied with centralized exchange being in their control then it takes them nothing to legalize Bitcoin as a legal payment method.
If Satoshi's identity is revealed today there are 2 major risks we should expect, him ^(Satoshi) being in danger and the chance of the government intervening further in the market.

No, Governments are not interested to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Governments already knows the real Satoshi Nakamoto. It is not the Governments but the central banking Elites are interested to know how a single man has challenged the financial system by creating the decentraluzed financial service industry ?

After all Governments or the Central Bankers are not the problem for Satoshi Nakamoto but the truth is the Bitcoin community leaders, those who are greedy for power and money are problem of Satoshi Nakamoto.

Satoshi Nakamoto is reading this thread and responding for clarification. Some of you are right and some of you are wrong in your personal judgement.

Satoshi Nakamoto suppose to revealed his identity in 14 February 2020 but the opponents stopped him to reveal his identity.

If Satoshi Nakamoto reveal his identity now, then nothing will happen. There will be no change but the market reverse as normal and Bitcoin price will grow faster.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on October 20, 2022, 11:11:05 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 16, 2022, 04:04:43 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 15, 2022, 05:12:53 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 14, 2022, 11:24:48 PM

I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.

Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

The government will bring Satoshi to explain in more detail about his project and maybe the government will force him to give his wallet containing lots of bitcoins to the government. This will change everything because the government can easily interfere in the market because they have access to many bitcoins. Satoshi himself may experience unpleasant things while under government supervision because the government will make sure that Satoshi supports them.

If he shows up, the government will certainly interrogate and mine bitcoin news, but I'm not sure if the government can intervene further in the market. If they want to own a lot of bitcoins now they can do it whenever, centralized exchanges are now under their control who own bitcoins but public identities like Saylor, tesla ... are all within their control.
I think the safety of satoshi is the main issue when his identity is revealed not bitcoin as bitcoin works independently not dependent on anyone including its creator, satoshi.

The government is always thirsty for power and their aim is to have total control. If they are satisfied with centralized exchange being in their control then it takes them nothing to legalize Bitcoin as a legal payment method.
If Satoshi's identity is revealed today there are 2 major risks we should expect, him ^(Satoshi) being in danger and the chance of the government intervening further in the market.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 16, 2022, 04:04:43 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 15, 2022, 05:12:53 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 14, 2022, 11:24:48 PM

I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.

Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

The government will bring Satoshi to explain in more detail about his project and maybe the government will force him to give his wallet containing lots of bitcoins to the government. This will change everything because the government can easily interfere in the market because they have access to many bitcoins. Satoshi himself may experience unpleasant things while under government supervision because the government will make sure that Satoshi supports them.

If he shows up, the government will certainly interrogate and mine bitcoin news, but I'm not sure if the government can intervene further in the market. If they want to own a lot of bitcoins now they can do it whenever, centralized exchanges are now under their control who own bitcoins but public identities like Saylor, tesla ... are all within their control.
I think the safety of satoshi is the main issue when his identity is revealed not bitcoin as bitcoin works independently not dependent on anyone including its creator, satoshi.

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I think a handful of people have a more or less accurate suspicion of who Satoshi might be. But instead of releasing them to a curious public, they instead helped Satos clean up.

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Quote from: rendravolt on October 12, 2022, 06:30:12 AM

So who is Satoshi Nakamoto? This question is repeated hundreds of times every year. I don't even care or don't want to know how the original figure of the bitcoin maker is, for sure with bitcoin all my life has changed from income to transactions so easy, fast and safe for me that's enough. You better learn more about bitcoin and crypto because every year developments in these fields are always changing and there is always progress that you must follow.

We already know if who is satoshi nakamoto but what we don't know is how satoshi looks like. It's okay if you won't bother about this and I think satoshi will be happy if all of us are not going to bother looking for him because this is the path that he chose but there will always be people who are very curious and will keep on seeking for information which could reveal the true identity of satoshi and there are also those fake satoshi popping out.

It's kinda annoying though. Many of us who got involved in bitcoin and use it as an asset can say that it changed our life even not to the point that we are now ultra rich. It also change the way we transact by the time we use it as a currency.

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Quote from: nullama on October 16, 2022, 06:29:19 PM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 16, 2022, 04:28:48 PM

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@fuguebtc I agree with what you said but Bitcoin is open source and there's no information the government wants to extract from Satoshi that's not already in the source code.
I believe @nullama make the statement because he/she doesn't know the huge number of people who sees Bitcoin as a threat to their business and the level of dirty trick the government can pull to bring Satoshi down which will literally affect BTC's reputation.

I'm aware that there might be people that would like to have a word with Satoshi.

There might be people who would like to have a word with him or make his life a living hell.

Quote from: nullama on October 16, 2022, 06:29:19 PM

But as I mentioned, Bitcoin is already independent of its creator. The blocks will continue to be produced roughly every 10 minutes.

No matter how independent Bitcoin is, we can not change the inventor to someone else except Satoshi.

Quote from: nullama on October 16, 2022, 06:29:19 PM

Sure, there would be a short term drama, and maybe the price will fluctuate wildly, but in the long term the fundamentals will continue to drive Bitcoin.

A short drama or lifetime drama. I pray you don't see the other side of the Feds. Do you know how many times XRP and the SEC have been in battle since 2020 if I can remember correctly?
Do you check how it impacts the price and the XRP market?
Satoshi have make the right decision and it will be nice if he don't change it.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 16, 2022, 04:28:48 PM

~snip~
@fuguebtc I agree with what you said but Bitcoin is open source and there's no information the government wants to extract from Satoshi that's not already in the source code.
I believe @nullama make the statement because he/she doesn't know the huge number of people who sees Bitcoin as a threat to their business and the level of dirty trick the government can pull to bring Satoshi down which will literally affect BTC's reputation.

I'm aware that there might be people that would like to have a word with Satoshi.

But as I mentioned, Bitcoin is already independent of its creator. The blocks will continue to be produced roughly every 10 minutes.

Sure, there would be a short term drama, and maybe the price will fluctuate wildly, but in the long term the fundamentals will continue to drive Bitcoin.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on October 15, 2022, 09:21:35 PM

Quote from: nullama on October 15, 2022, 07:58:29 PM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 15, 2022, 05:12:53 PM

~snip~
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

Satoshi appearing in public wouldn't change how Bitcoin works. That means that it would still be almost impossible to confiscate. The only way would be to someone basically stealing your private keys. Also Bitcoin will continue generating blocks.

That may or may not happen as we don't know if satoshi holds any bitcoin secrets anymore, remember he's the one who made it so he'll know things we might not have seen them yet. If he comes out and gets government attention it is really not good for bitcoin and him, they will definitely extract all bitcoin information from him and will find a way to control it. Currently, bitcoin is sacrosanct but that doesn't mean it won't happen in the future, I think that's why he has a reason not to show up.

@fuguebtc I agree with what you said but Bitcoin is open source and there's no information the government wants to extract from Satoshi that's not already in the source code.
I believe @nullama make the statement because he/she doesn't know the huge number of people who sees Bitcoin as a threat to their business and the level of dirty trick the government can pull to bring Satoshi down which will literally affect BTC's reputation.

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 16, 2022, 04:04:43 AM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 15, 2022, 05:12:53 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 14, 2022, 11:24:48 PM

I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.

Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

The government will bring Satoshi to explain in more detail about his project and maybe the government will force him to give his wallet containing lots of bitcoins to the government. This will change everything because the government can easily interfere in the market because they have access to many bitcoins. Satoshi himself may experience unpleasant things while under government supervision because the government will make sure that Satoshi supports them.

Yes. i believe Satoshi will experience something even more than unpleasant if he dox himself and it's better he won't reveal himself for the safety of himself and the BTC ecosystem.

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Quote from: Sterbens on October 14, 2022, 08:15:45 AM

Right let him choose to be anonymous without anyone knowing who he is. He must have considered that being anonymous was better than having to go out with an identity. He had calculated this before he created bitcoin. Because we never know what will happen if he comes out with his identity, because maybe it will harm himself. We never knew such a thing.

Considering about the developer or programmer about Bitcoin with Satoshi Nakamoto still alive or not better for him keep hidden his identity and action behind only how proud right now looking Bitcoin become most popular digital currency and adopted by bigger companies. Surely if Satoshi Nakamoto want to publish him self I think give bad impact for Bitcoin reputation at the future and less people want to trust Bitcoin if have controlling by some one.

Keep safety with Blockchain network until right now with many other chain ever got hacked, I think this how trusted controlling or progress by Satoshi Nakamoto if keep hidden him self from public, maybe have chance get problem with Blockchain network like the other chain if try to publish him self.

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Quote from: Editbar on October 11, 2022, 10:21:56 AM

One of the biggest mysteries in the technology world is the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto

No and no, I don't think it's the biggest mystery for bitcoin, but people continue to think of it as a mystery because they really want to know it. Maintaining privacy is not a mystery, but I think the biggest mystery of bitcoin is knowing when this currency was able to dominate world financial transactions and be adopted globally.

Satoshi should take very good care of his privacy, he doesn't need to reveal how many bitcoin he has, how many wallets he has and where he is now. That's the privacy you really have to think about when you have a bank in your hands.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 15, 2022, 05:12:53 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 14, 2022, 11:24:48 PM

I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.

Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

The government will bring Satoshi to explain in more detail about his project and maybe the government will force him to give his wallet containing lots of bitcoins to the government. This will change everything because the government can easily interfere in the market because they have access to many bitcoins. Satoshi himself may experience unpleasant things while under government supervision because the government will make sure that Satoshi supports them.

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Quote from: nullama on October 15, 2022, 07:58:29 PM

Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 15, 2022, 05:12:53 PM

~snip~
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

Satoshi appearing in public wouldn't change how Bitcoin works. That means that it would still be almost impossible to confiscate. The only way would be to someone basically stealing your private keys. Also Bitcoin will continue generating blocks.

That may or may not happen as we don't know if satoshi holds any bitcoin secrets anymore, remember he's the one who made it so he'll know things we might not have seen them yet. If he comes out and gets government attention it is really not good for bitcoin and him, they will definitely extract all bitcoin information from him and will find a way to control it. Currently, bitcoin is sacrosanct but that doesn't mean it won't happen in the future, I think that's why he has a reason not to show up.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 15, 2022, 05:12:53 PM

~snip~
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

Satoshi appearing in public wouldn't change how Bitcoin works. That means that it would still be almost impossible to confiscate. The only way would be to someone basically stealing your private keys. Also Bitcoin will continue generating blocks.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 14, 2022, 11:24:48 PM

I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.

Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 11, 2022, 09:30:15 PM

If his identity is revealed there will be negative effects on bitcoin, but not to the extent that it is the end of bitcoin, bitcoin will always exist and thrive as long as our needs remain. Satoshi is the creator of bitcoin and he can hold a lot of bitcoins but I guess he can't control bitcoins either, so his presence won't change the decentralized nature of bitcoin either.

I don't think that if Satoshi's identity is revealed, something similar will happen, rather on the contrary, it will only spur interest in bitcoin as a phenomenon created incognito, which suddenly reappeared, so I wouldn't worry about it.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 13, 2022, 10:58:33 PM

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I prefer that Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who work to build a Bitcoin project but they don't gather in one room but work in their respective places and communicate with each other.

This bitcoin project is still a mystery, especially about Satoshi Nakamoto, because we don't know who they really are. But we have to thank him because he has dared to break the system that has been running for a long time.

And when Satoshi Nakamoto's wallet starts to move, all eyes will be on the wallet and will wait for where they will send Bitcoin.

Judging by Theymos messages whenever he talks about Satoshi Nakamoto, I will say he's an individual who at some point hired some innovative enthusiast to work with him on the project and they choose to join him because the project was built on decentralization, censorship-resistant, and open source. However, the name Satoshi Nakamoto was also not chosen by the person that combine the idea of BTC, the name was chosen by the community that contribute to the BTC network.

Even though, in the end, Satoshi Nakamoto was the one person who did everything in the Bitcoin project, it remains a mystery. After all, we don't know who he really is and many people keep guessing who Satoshi Nakamoto is.
(....)

For me, it's just good that Satoshi Nakamoto will remain anonymous or we will not know who he/she is anymore. Satoshi Nakamoto is sure proud of Bitcoin now, wherever he/she is now, they are already very happy about what Bitcoin achieve over time.
So, let's not waste anymore about finding who really Satoshi Nakamoto is because he/she intended to stay anonymous from the beginning. Bitcoin is doing great.

I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 12, 2022, 09:36:29 PM

For that, we better let him stay hidden and as anonymous, he has a life of his own. I'm sure he's keeping an eye on the bitcoin project and who knows, he's still inside this bitcoin project, watching it from afar and making sure everything is going well.

We can only allow the mystery of who Satoshi Nakamoto is to remain a mystery and like the mysteries of the world, it remains a secret that is never revealed.

Right let him choose to be anonymous without anyone knowing who he is. He must have considered that being anonymous was better than having to go out with an identity. He had calculated this before he created bitcoin. Because we never know what will happen if he comes out with his identity, because maybe it will harm himself. We never knew such a thing.

I think he will be a real mystery man because he can still be anonymous with today's technology. He really cares about anonymity in the internet world and can hide who he is. We are lucky to be able to use bitcoin until now and in the future because bitcoin is one of the human creations that can survive all kinds of situations.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 13, 2022, 10:58:33 PM

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 12, 2022, 04:48:38 AM

I prefer that Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who work to build a Bitcoin project but they don't gather in one room but work in their respective places and communicate with each other.

This bitcoin project is still a mystery, especially about Satoshi Nakamoto, because we don't know who they really are. But we have to thank him because he has dared to break the system that has been running for a long time.

And when Satoshi Nakamoto's wallet starts to move, all eyes will be on the wallet and will wait for where they will send Bitcoin.

Judging by Theymos messages whenever he talks about Satoshi Nakamoto, I will say he's an individual who at some point hired some innovative enthusiast to work with him on the project and they choose to join him because the project was built on decentralization, censorship-resistant, and open source. However, the name Satoshi Nakamoto was also not chosen by the person that combine the idea of BTC, the name was chosen by the community that contribute to the BTC network.

Even though, in the end, Satoshi Nakamoto was the one person who did everything in the Bitcoin project, it remains a mystery. After all, we don't know who he really is and many people keep guessing who Satoshi Nakamoto is.
(....)

For me, it's just good that Satoshi Nakamoto will remain anonymous or we will not know who he/she is anymore. Satoshi Nakamoto is sure proud of Bitcoin now, wherever he/she is now, they are already very happy about what Bitcoin achieve over time.
So, let's not waste anymore about finding who really Satoshi Nakamoto is because he/she intended to stay anonymous from the beginning. Bitcoin is doing great.

Yes, according to the messages of Theymos I read to learn about Satoshi Nakamoto, and the idea of Bitcoin was brought into the picture. He contacts some smart people with C++ knowledge.
Let us use Binance as an explanation if you remember CZ and his crew once did a bounty campaign on this forum for their ICO but now if we mention Binance we will say CZ is the CEO, isn't it? I believe to make everything fair and totally decentralized is the reason why Satoshi Nakamoto left the BTC duty into the community hand.
As GreatArkansas said, we don't need to waste our time finding who Satoshi is because everyone that supports the Bitcoin dream is automatically Satoshi Nakamoto.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 12, 2022, 09:36:29 PM

For that, we better let him stay hidden and as anonymous, he has a life of his own. I'm sure he's keeping an eye on the bitcoin project and who knows, he's still inside this bitcoin project, watching it from afar and making sure everything is going well.

We can only allow the mystery of who Satoshi Nakamoto is to remain a mystery and like the mysteries of the world, it remains a secret that is never revealed.

Right let him choose to be anonymous without anyone knowing who he is. He must have considered that being anonymous was better than having to go out with an identity. He had calculated this before he created bitcoin. Because we never know what will happen if he comes out with his identity, because maybe it will harm himself. We never knew such a thing.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 12, 2022, 04:48:38 AM

I prefer that Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who work to build a Bitcoin project but they don't gather in one room but work in their respective places and communicate with each other.

This bitcoin project is still a mystery, especially about Satoshi Nakamoto, because we don't know who they really are. But we have to thank him because he has dared to break the system that has been running for a long time.

And when Satoshi Nakamoto's wallet starts to move, all eyes will be on the wallet and will wait for where they will send Bitcoin.

Judging by Theymos messages whenever he talks about Satoshi Nakamoto, I will say he's an individual who at some point hired some innovative enthusiast to work with him on the project and they choose to join him because the project was built on decentralization, censorship-resistant, and open source. However, the name Satoshi Nakamoto was also not chosen by the person that combine the idea of BTC, the name was chosen by the community that contribute to the BTC network.

Even though, in the end, Satoshi Nakamoto was the one person who did everything in the Bitcoin project, it remains a mystery. After all, we don't know who he really is and many people keep guessing who Satoshi Nakamoto is.
(....)

For me, it's just good that Satoshi Nakamoto will remain anonymous or we will not know who he/she is anymore. Satoshi Nakamoto is sure proud of Bitcoin now, wherever he/she is now, they are already very happy about what Bitcoin achieve over time.
So, let's not waste anymore about finding who really Satoshi Nakamoto is because he/she intended to stay anonymous from the beginning. Bitcoin is doing great.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 13, 2022, 06:41:42 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 12, 2022, 04:48:38 AM

I prefer that Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who work to build a Bitcoin project but they don't gather in one room but work in their respective places and communicate with each other.

This bitcoin project is still a mystery, especially about Satoshi Nakamoto, because we don't know who they really are. But we have to thank him because he has dared to break the system that has been running for a long time.

And when Satoshi Nakamoto's wallet starts to move, all eyes will be on the wallet and will wait for where they will send Bitcoin.

Judging by Theymos messages whenever he talks about Satoshi Nakamoto, I will say he's an individual who at some point hired some innovative enthusiast to work with him on the project and they choose to join him because the project was built on decentralization, censorship-resistant, and open source. However, the name Satoshi Nakamoto was also not chosen by the person that combine the idea of BTC, the name was chosen by the community that contribute to the BTC network.

Even though, in the end, Satoshi Nakamoto was the one person who did everything in the Bitcoin project, it remains a mystery. After all, we don't know who he really is and many people keep guessing who Satoshi Nakamoto is.

If you say that someone hired some innovative caller to work with him on the project at some point, it means that people are joining together and Satoshi is not working alone.

But never mind, we don't need to debate whether Satoshi Nakamoto is a person or several people because we don't know the truth. Most importantly, we must thank Satoshi Nakamoto for his creations, which have helped us a lot.

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And since we're already discussing about mysteries here, I wonder: who have read topic 3? Grin

Quote from: theymos on July 12, 2012, 03:14:57 PM

Quote from: ingrownpocket on July 12, 2012, 02:36:08 PM

Is this the first bitcointalk.org topic?
What happened with topic 1,2,3 and 4?

1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).

Hopefully Theymos or Cyrus moved the forum software (or at least the database) to more powerful disks at some point in 2017-18 and thoroughly wiped the data on the old disks.

I hope the grin icon made everything clear. Cheesy

When I first stumbled upon this post by theymos years ago, I thought it was serious, although, of course, you should wonder in disbelief how on earth could Satoshi commit this very poor lapse in judgement. Anyway, at least theymos has already made it clear Grin

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would you mind telling why you came up with what you said?

It's called a joke. Roll Eyes

But, again, it is my hunch that a handful of people have more or less accurate suspicions of who Satoshi might be. But rather than divulging them to the curious public, they instead helped clean Satoshi's tracks for any clues. It is probably, of course, in deference to Satoshi's decision to stay out of the limelight for good.

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that's the advantages of bitcoin, there are still unsolved mysteries,

we all don't know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is, many people just guess who Satoshi Nakamoto is,

what is certain is that he is a genius, he is a great person, and his inventions are very useful.

actually do not need to know who Satoshi Nakamoto, we just need, take advantage of his invention (bitcoin) properly and correctly.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 11, 2022, 03:29:31 PM

How did you know that Satoshi has an estimated to have 1 BTC in his wallet when you yourself said that we really don't know who he or she or group of individuals behind that name?

Just surprising to see another Satoshi Nakamoto thread, I can't recall if we have this kind of thing back in 2018 bear market when suddenly members are opening a thread about the legendary man when everyone here knows that Satoshi we will not know his real identity? And those who are all claiming are fake.

Satoshi is the biggest mystery of bitcoin, I also find it unreasonable when there are people who say that they know about Satoshi's wealth and there are also those who say Satoshi has 1 btc, while they themselves don't know Satoshi's whereabouts and they don't even know about the origin Satoshi, I also wonder why they say all that, while we know we never believe anyone who says he is Satoshi because for those of us who have been in the crypto world for a long time, it is not easy to believe anyone who says he is the inventor of bitcoin, let alone they say himself as Satoshi.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 12, 2022, 04:48:38 AM

I prefer that Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who work to build a Bitcoin project but they don't gather in one room but work in their respective places and communicate with each other.

This bitcoin project is still a mystery, especially about Satoshi Nakamoto, because we don't know who they really are. But we have to thank him because he has dared to break the system that has been running for a long time.

And when Satoshi Nakamoto's wallet starts to move, all eyes will be on the wallet and will wait for where they will send Bitcoin.

Judging by Theymos messages whenever he talks about Satoshi Nakamoto, I will say he's an individual who at some point hired some innovative enthusiast to work with him on the project and they choose to join him because the project was built on decentralization, censorship-resistant, and open source. However, the name Satoshi Nakamoto was also not chosen by the person that combine the idea of BTC, the name was chosen by the community that contribute to the BTC network.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on October 12, 2022, 07:13:23 AM

This topic is understandably a newbie’s favorite discussion. Newbies may find the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto intriguing and may even attempt to draw a pattern to speculate the identity or nationality of Satoshi. For those of us who have been here long enough, we have seen this being discussed repeatedly and I have come to the conclusion that this will be a discussion that will never cease as long as Bitcoin exists.

it's true that stories like this never end, but does anyone here have any idea what should be done if Satoshi's identity were to come to light? i want to know what everyone will do after that, maybe we can run to him and get his autograph as a souvenir? is this beneficial or profitable for us?

he decided to remain anonymous he must have had a good reason so we should respect his decision. he left us a huge legacy of bitcoin, what we should do is grow it and stop digging into his identity or life

My honest opinion is that if we knew who satoshi was then we would not be able to see bitcoin rising as much as it did. There are so many government problems that wherever he lived, he would be found guilty of "something", if they weren't guilty of anything, they would definitely frame them for something with fake proof in order to jail them.

Because, this is something that drops the power of governments via economical freedom to people and they would want to say "look who created it, he is a monster!" and make sure that everyone saw it and then hope that bitcoins power would diminish and disappear at the light of satoshi being a bad person.

For now, let us be thankful that bitcoin was created in this era.
It may be a mystery up until now, because Satoshi decided not to disclose his identity after more than a decade of its existence.
I believe, it is better this way to avoid other troubles that he may encounter with people, authorities and basically from everyone.
As of today, this has created a lot of impact to many people across the globe. In some ways, it has even changed a lot of lives for the better.

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Quote from: Ayers on October 12, 2022, 10:14:06 PM

Quote from: SatoPrincess on October 12, 2022, 07:13:23 AM

This topic is understandably a newbie’s favorite discussion. Newbies may find the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto intriguing and may even attempt to draw a pattern to speculate the identity or nationality of Satoshi. For those of us who have been here long enough, we have seen this being discussed repeatedly and I have come to the conclusion that this will be a discussion that will never cease as long as Bitcoin exists.

it's true that stories like this never end, but does anyone here have any idea what should be done if Satoshi's identity were to come to light? i want to know what everyone will do after that, maybe we can run to him and get his autograph as a souvenir? is this beneficial or profitable for us?

he decided to remain anonymous he must have had a good reason so we should respect his decision. he left us a huge legacy of bitcoin, what we should do is grow it and stop digging into his identity or life

My honest opinion is that if we knew who satoshi was then we would not be able to see bitcoin rising as much as it did. There are so many government problems that wherever he lived, he would be found guilty of "something", if they weren't guilty of anything, they would definitely frame them for something with fake proof in order to jail them.

Because, this is something that drops the power of governments via economical freedom to people and they would want to say "look who created it, he is a monster!" and make sure that everyone saw it and then hope that bitcoins power would diminish and disappear at the light of satoshi being a bad person.

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Quote from: Darker45 on October 12, 2022, 09:52:18 PM

And since we're already discussing about mysteries here, I wonder: who have read topic 3? Grin

Quote from: theymos on July 12, 2012, 03:14:57 PM

Quote from: ingrownpocket on July 12, 2012, 02:36:08 PM

Is this the first bitcointalk.org topic?
What happened with topic 1,2,3 and 4?

1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).

Hopefully Theymos or Cyrus moved the forum software (or at least the database) to more powerful disks at some point in 2017-18 and thoroughly wiped the data on the old disks.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on October 12, 2022, 07:13:23 AM

This topic is understandably a newbie’s favorite discussion. Newbies may find the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto intriguing and may even attempt to draw a pattern to speculate the identity or nationality of Satoshi. For those of us who have been here long enough, we have seen this being discussed repeatedly and I have come to the conclusion that this will be a discussion that will never cease as long as Bitcoin exists.

it's true that stories like this never end, but does anyone here have any idea what should be done if Satoshi's identity were to come to light? i want to know what everyone will do after that, maybe we can run to him and get his autograph as a souvenir? is this beneficial or profitable for us?

he decided to remain anonymous he must have had a good reason so we should respect his decision. he left us a huge legacy of bitcoin, what we should do is grow it and stop digging into his identity or life

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After reading the subject of the thread, I was thinking this is a sort of a compilation of, well, the "Biggest mysteries of Bitcoin." It wasn't, of course. The subject is kind of misleading.

Anyway, indeed Satoshi's identity or identities are a mystery but I guess what's more mysterious is the possibility that it's actually probably known. I think there are a handful of individuals who must have a more or less accurate guess of who Satoshi is/are.

And since we're already discussing about mysteries here, I wonder: who have read topic 3? Grin

Quote from: theymos on July 12, 2012, 03:14:57 PM

Quote from: ingrownpocket on July 12, 2012, 02:36:08 PM

Is this the first bitcointalk.org topic?
What happened with topic 1,2,3 and 4?

1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).

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Quote from: Sterbens on October 12, 2022, 12:55:57 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 12, 2022, 04:48:38 AM

I prefer that Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who work to build a Bitcoin project but they don't gather in one room but work in their respective places and communicate with each other.

This bitcoin project is still a mystery, especially about Satoshi Nakamoto, because we don't know who they really are. But we have to thank him because he has dared to break the system that has been running for a long time.

And when Satoshi Nakamoto's wallet starts to move, all eyes will be on the wallet and will wait for where they will send Bitcoin.

Whether Satoshi Nakamoto is an individual, a group or an organization, we must say thank you for creating the extraordinary things that we can experience today. Satoshi Nakamoto's identity will never be discovered because he prefers him as anonymous, because if he wants he will show who he really is from the start. Curious, yes, of course we are curious about his figure, but this will never end and will always be an endless conversation.

For that, we better let him stay hidden and as anonymous, he has a life of his own. I'm sure he's keeping an eye on the bitcoin project and who knows, he's still inside this bitcoin project, watching it from afar and making sure everything is going well.

We can only allow the mystery of who Satoshi Nakamoto is to remain a mystery and like the mysteries of the world, it remains a secret that is never revealed.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 12, 2022, 04:48:38 AM

I prefer that Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who work to build a Bitcoin project but they don't gather in one room but work in their respective places and communicate with each other.

This bitcoin project is still a mystery, especially about Satoshi Nakamoto, because we don't know who they really are. But we have to thank him because he has dared to break the system that has been running for a long time.

And when Satoshi Nakamoto's wallet starts to move, all eyes will be on the wallet and will wait for where they will send Bitcoin.

Whether Satoshi Nakamoto is an individual, a group or an organization, we must say thank you for creating the extraordinary things that we can experience today. Satoshi Nakamoto's identity will never be discovered because he prefers him as anonymous, because if he wants he will show who he really is from the start. Curious, yes, of course we are curious about his figure, but this will never end and will always be an endless conversation.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 11, 2022, 02:09:35 PM

Although Am still learning about Bitcoin, but I have learned that Satoshi's intentions was not for people to know him but for the success of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is Decentralised Blockchain so there's no need to uncover Satoshi identity, We ought protect it. Just My opinion though.

You actually have a point here, because to me had it been Satoshi never went offline, it would have make no sense knowing the person who claims to offer a digital currency which makes our transaction anonymous. So that decision alone contributing to what have caused the growth or massive increase in the value of Bitcoin today, as it makes us in control of our finance, borderless and fast means to send money to a friend or family member in a far away land.

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Quote from: Shibboleth on October 11, 2022, 01:09:47 PM

I my book satoshi must have (sadly ) died at some point in 2011 - no way could a human being sit on such wealth and do exactly zero !

So the prime candidate, in my view, is Len Sassaman.

Has this theory been debucked yet ?

Satoshi made this post from his P2P account in 2014:

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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.

http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186

How do we know that his P2P account wasn't hacked like his gmx email?

That's the thing about the investigation - all communications dating after the email he wrote to Mike Hearn "I moved on to other things" are untrustworthy and should be classified as alleged, since we do not know for sure whether it was indeed him who wrote those messages.

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Quote from: BALIK on October 11, 2022, 09:30:15 PM

Quote from: uneng on October 11, 2022, 06:31:45 PM

The best for bitcoin is that Satoshi's identity remains a mistery forever. If at some point his identity were revealed there would be serious chances the impact for btc would be very negative. It could lead investors to panic selling and the mainstream media to create lots of narratives about the hidden goals and purposes of the creation of bitcoin. Maybe it could mean the end of bitcoin, being it replaced by an altcoin, probably ethereum.

Anyway, although we are curious about this matter, I think we should be just thankful for his invention and for all the fruits gathered so far.

If his identity is revealed there will be negative effects on bitcoin, but not to the extent that it is the end of bitcoin, bitcoin will always exist and thrive as long as our needs remain. Satoshi is the creator of bitcoin and he can hold a lot of bitcoins but I guess he can't control bitcoins either, so his presence won't change the decentralized nature of bitcoin either.

Let's say bitcoin is over, I see it's also the end of the entire crypto market, there's no reason why ethereum or any other cryptocurrency should ever replace bitcoin. Not all deserve to sit in the place of bitcoin, centralized altcoins.

That is a risk to be taken if his identity is revealed. We don't know exactly the dimension of such consequences, but I've read some speculations on the internet saying it can be heavily harmful to bitcoin if it happens and it makes sense, because investors would avoid bitcoin if they thought they were being manipulated by a hidden agenda controlled by few individuals, since the proposal of bitcoin is decentralization and going against groups of power.

About ethereum I mentioned it because it is the natural second choice, as eth is the most popular chain for projects/tokens developers.

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Quote from: mk4 on October 12, 2022, 12:01:19 AM

I don't know why, but screw his identity. I'm kind of more curious if "Satoshi Nakamoto" is actually a single individual, or a group that consists of 2 or more people — and if it's actually a group, how many people does it consist of?

I have about the same attitude towards this issue. I am not at all interested in Satoshi's personality, especially after he wished to remain anonymous. I respect his decision and even if I had the opportunity to find out who he really is, I would refuse it. What matters most is what he has done for humanity, not his personal data. Also, I don't care if it was one person or a group of people. In general, this creates an aura of mystery, but I believe that since this information was not shared with the community, then we do not need to know. It seems that this will be better for the bitcoin-network.

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This topic is understandably a newbie’s favorite discussion. Newbies may find the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto intriguing and may even attempt to draw a pattern to speculate the identity or nationality of Satoshi. For those of us who have been here long enough, we have seen this being discussed repeatedly and I have come to the conclusion that this will be a discussion that will never cease as long as Bitcoin exists.

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So who is Satoshi Nakamoto? This question is repeated hundreds of times every year. I don't even care or don't want to know how the original figure of the bitcoin maker is, for sure with bitcoin all my life has changed from income to transactions so easy, fast and safe for me that's enough. You better learn more about bitcoin and crypto because every year developments in these fields are always changing and there is always progress that you must follow.

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I prefer that Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people who work to build a Bitcoin project but they don't gather in one room but work in their respective places and communicate with each other.

This bitcoin project is still a mystery, especially about Satoshi Nakamoto, because we don't know who they really are. But we have to thank him because he has dared to break the system that has been running for a long time.

And when Satoshi Nakamoto's wallet starts to move, all eyes will be on the wallet and will wait for where they will send Bitcoin.

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indeed the creator of bitcoin is very full of mystery because no one knows who he is? who is often called, Satoshi Nakamoto, even a senior in the bitcoin talk forum, no one knows. if in my opinion as a beginner in bitcoin. don't worry too much about who Satoshi is, because it will make your head spin. but I always think about Satoshi Nakamoto's services for all of us who are interested in investing in bitcoin, and many of them benefit, especially those who bought bitcoins in 2010, wow that must be really lucky, and Satoshi's biggest service in my opinion is, opening job vacancies a very big one, namely by investing in bitcoin whether it is a short-term or long-term investment. and this is very helpful for the world community.

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I guess, Many bitcoiners are waiting to know the originality of Satoshi, if truly he is a black man or white man, because some of us just believed that Satoshi is the founder of Bitcoin and the purpose he created Bitcoin is to help the world to reduce unemployment, transaction delay in all financial institutions in the land. We don't know if Satoshi is a single boy or girl before he created Bitcoin to helped humanity to grow well, which many people will like to know if you can be able to give the real identity of Satoshi.

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I don't know why, but screw his identity. I'm kind of more curious if "Satoshi Nakamoto" is actually a single individual, or a group that consists of 2 or more people — and if it's actually a group, how many people does it consist of?

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Quote from: BALIK on October 11, 2022, 09:30:15 PM

If his identity is revealed there will be negative effects on bitcoin, but not to the extent that it is the end of bitcoin, bitcoin will always exist and thrive as long as our needs remain. Satoshi is the creator of bitcoin and he can hold a lot of bitcoins but I guess he can't control bitcoins either, so his presence won't change the decentralized nature of bitcoin either.

I doubt that! There will be a temporary effect on the market which can be negative but that will be recovered faster that we expect. It all depends on the course of actions taken by the enforcement agencies once the identity of real Satoshi is revealed and confirmed. I am sure a lot of enforcement agencies are waiting for this information. So we will see what impact it brings on to the market. But decentralization has its own benefits.

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Let's say bitcoin is over, I see it's also the end of the entire crypto market, there's no reason why ethereum or any other cryptocurrency should ever replace bitcoin. Not all deserve to sit in the place of bitcoin, centralized altcoins.

That's never gonna happen! Bitcoin can't be controlled by Satoshi or some agency. No cryptocurrency will ever replace bitcoin till the time it is minable.

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Quote from: uneng on October 11, 2022, 06:31:45 PM

The best for bitcoin is that Satoshi's identity remains a mistery forever. If at some point his identity were revealed there would be serious chances the impact for btc would be very negative. It could lead investors to panic selling and the mainstream media to create lots of narratives about the hidden goals and purposes of the creation of bitcoin. Maybe it could mean the end of bitcoin, being it replaced by an altcoin, probably ethereum.

Anyway, although we are curious about this matter, I think we should be just thankful for his invention and for all the fruits gathered so far.

If his identity is revealed there will be negative effects on bitcoin, but not to the extent that it is the end of bitcoin, bitcoin will always exist and thrive as long as our needs remain. Satoshi is the creator of bitcoin and he can hold a lot of bitcoins but I guess he can't control bitcoins either, so his presence won't change the decentralized nature of bitcoin either.

Let's say bitcoin is over, I see it's also the end of the entire crypto market, there's no reason why ethereum or any other cryptocurrency should ever replace bitcoin. Not all deserve to sit in the place of bitcoin, centralized altcoins.

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For some reason I think Satoshi is dead. Or it somehow fell into the hands of a state and is being used.

And I have already accepted the fact that whether he's alive or not, we'll never know who is the actual Satoshi or who they really are. Satoshi just really played at his best to be the best example of what anonymity is so is the creation of bitcoin.

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Otherwise, it is not possible for such a rich and important person to remain hidden.

But he just did.

With all the current holdings that he's got, calculating the net of it. He's totally rich but for all over the years, no one has gone out to move those coins that have been there for so long.

And our conclusion is that he's gone forever and those bitcoins are also gone together with him.

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The best for bitcoin is that Satoshi's identity remains a mistery forever. If at some point his identity were revealed there would be serious chances the impact for btc would be very negative. It could lead investors to panic selling and the mainstream media to create lots of narratives about the hidden goals and purposes of the creation of bitcoin. Maybe it could mean the end of bitcoin, being it replaced by an altcoin, probably ethereum.

Anyway, although we are curious about this matter, I think we should be just thankful for his invention and for all the fruits gathered so far.

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Quote from: Editbar on October 11, 2022, 10:21:56 AM

One of the biggest mysteries in the technology world is the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto the computer programmer who invented the digital currency Bitcoin that's because Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym it may be the name of one person or the name of a group but for over 13 years now of bitcoins existence no one has figured out who or what Nakamoto is beyond solving a long-standing mystery what sort of impact would uncover that Komodos identity have to answer that question

2008 Satoshi Nakamoto published a nine-page white paper containing the first ever mention of Bitcoin calling it a peer-to-peer electronic cash system at this point bitcoin was just an idea on paper but in 2009 Nakamoto put the concepts to the test releasing the cryptocurrency's first software Nakamoto was active those first few years writing in forums sending emails and working with other developers and coders to improve the program that'll change in 2011 when Nakamoto essentially vanished no more forum entries no more emails and in all that time nobody not even close collaborators ever met the founder in person but here's the thing whoever it is they didn't walk away empty-handed Nakamoto is estimated to have 1 million bitcoins.

I don't really see anything too different compared to many other open source software.

The common thing is to never meet in person the main developer of an open source software that you use.

Also it's very common that the main developer would be very active in the first few years and then move on to other things and never be seen again.

It's also usually the case that the main developer is only one person, working hard for a long time.

I think it's just because Bitcoin represents money that some people are so obsessed with this project's early main developer in particular.

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Well for once, we should lay to rest Satoshi's identity. As someone says, he could be dead already and so his coins are not going to move anytime. And if someone comes forward again and claim to be Satoshi, then our common sense that is he fake.

But we can read about Satoshi here in this community as he has posted a lot in the beginning before he disappear.

Also here:

Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? Part History, Part Mystery, and a New Solution!.

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How did you know that Satoshi has an estimated to have 1 BTC in his wallet when you yourself said that we really don't know who he or she or group of individuals behind that name?

Just surprising to see another Satoshi Nakamoto thread, I can't recall if we have this kind of thing back in 2018 bear market when suddenly members are opening a thread about the legendary man when everyone here knows that Satoshi we will not know his real identity? And those who are all claiming are fake.

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Quote from: Shibboleth on October 11, 2022, 01:09:47 PM

I my book satoshi must have (sadly ) died at some point in 2011 - no way could a human being sit on such wealth and do exactly zero !

So the prime candidate, in my view, is Len Sassaman.

Has this theory been debucked yet ?

Satoshi made this post from his P2P account in 2014:

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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.

http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186

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Although Am still learning about Bitcoin, but I have learned that Satoshi's intentions was not for people to know him but for the success of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is Decentralised Blockchain so there's no need to uncover Satoshi identity, We ought protect it. Just My opinion though.

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Quote from: Editbar on October 11, 2022, 10:21:56 AM

One of the biggest mysteries in the technology world is the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto the computer programmer who invented the digital currency Bitcoin that's because Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym it may be the name of one person or the name of a group but for over 13 years now of bitcoins existence no one has figured out who or what Nakamoto is beyond solving a long-standing mystery what sort of impact would uncover that Komodos identity have to answer that question

2008 Satoshi Nakamoto published a nine-page white paper containing the first ever mention of Bitcoin calling it a peer-to-peer electronic cash system at this point bitcoin was just an idea on paper but in 2009 Nakamoto put the concepts to the test releasing the cryptocurrency's first software Nakamoto was active those first few years writing in forums sending emails and working with other developers and coders to improve the program that'll change in 2011 when Nakamoto essentially vanished no more forum entries no more emails and in all that time nobody not even close collaborators ever met the founder in person but here's the thing whoever it is they didn't walk away empty-handed Nakamoto is estimated to have 1 million bitcoins.

You may not be aware of this, but nobody knows who Satoshi is and including the person who manages the forum I learnt. It's possible that someone does, but they don't want to share, but does it really matter whether we know who Satoshi is or the kind of colour person he is? Bitcoin is so decentralized that even if he decides to return today, he won't be able to do anything or claim to own it back, all he will be able to do is sell what he currently owns, which I doubt he will do for a profit when the price of bitcoin has reached $64k and never move a single sats, I doubt he will even do that in the next ten years.

You should be concerned about the guys who are benefiting from Satoshi's hard work, CZ is currently the richest person in the crypto space yet you didn't worry about him being worth $17.4 billion according to forbe that can do whatever they want rather than imaginary bitcoin that you know nothing about.

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I my book satoshi must have (sadly ) died at some point in 2011 - no way could a human being sit on such wealth and do exactly zero !

So the prime candidate, in my view, is Len Sassaman.

Has this theory been debucked yet ?

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I try to understand OP is making attempts to offer something quality a d resourceful to the community been a newbie but this aspect is just as good as ever increasing repetition made because countless of times it has been discussed, just a simple google search could gives more insight than you've presented, but honestly you need to get more familiar with bringing in something new, make other discoveries and learn alot about bitcoin and i can assure you with this you can move forward with better understandings about bitcoin and the forum.

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Yes this topic has been done to death here, but, while were are talking about it, I think the most likely candidate is Nick Szabo, but also maybe a team of people calling themselves "satoshi". Who knows for sure? only Satoshi.

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One of the biggest mysteries in the technology world is the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto the computer programmer who invented the digital currency Bitcoin that's because Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym it may be the name of one person or the name of a group but for over 13 years now of bitcoins existence no one has figured out who or what Nakamoto is beyond solving a long-standing mystery what sort of impact would uncover that Komodos identity have to answer that question

2008 Satoshi Nakamoto published a nine-page white paper containing the first ever mention of Bitcoin calling it a peer-to-peer electronic cash system at this point bitcoin was just an idea on paper but in 2009 Nakamoto put the concepts to the test releasing the cryptocurrency's first software Nakamoto was active those first few years writing in forums sending emails and working with other developers and coders to improve the program that'll change in 2011 when Nakamoto essentially vanished no more forum entries no more emails and in all that time nobody not even close collaborators ever met the founder in person but here's the thing whoever it is they didn't walk away empty-handed Nakamoto is estimated to have 1 million bitcoins.

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