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Topic: Binance aml/kyc in the eu (Read 227 times)

legendary
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December 05, 2022, 03:23:35 AM
#23
Disagree.  There is still a lot to give.  I made big privacy mistakes before yet here I am.  Does not mean I have to give every thing because I gave something once.  If I think something is an overreach, I retreat.
Of course you don't have to give everything. As a matter of fact you don't have to give anything as long as you avoid CEX.


There are some Centralized Exchanges which still do not ask for Know Your Customer procedures.  Instead of depositing large amounts, why not proceed differently.  Deposit small parts and withdraw after every trade.  If you want to trade $10,000 in branches of $1,000 each, it will take you 10 deposits, 10 trades and 10 withdrawals.  But if they crack down on your account, you lose only $1,000.
And for how long that's gonna work, trader depositing few thousands in smaller batches and then withdrawing even more, on the daily basis? My guess is not long before you get asked for KYC.


It is unfortunate.  But these are the modern regulations and laws and they may get worse over the next years.  All we can do is either comply or adapt our strategies to their measures.
If you wanna use all the CEX pro's, be ready to accept all the cons as the way things are developing , in a year or two it won't be possible to use any CEX without KYC. Small time traders may try to work around those regulations and try to avoid KYC but anyone dealing with bigger amounts (and I know few of those) will simply accept the reality.
hero member
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Crypto Swap Exchange
December 04, 2022, 05:57:04 PM
#22
He already did KYC at Binance so there's not much left to give, except the proof of address thing.
Disagree.  There is still a lot to give.  I made big privacy mistakes before yet here I am.  Does not mean I have to give every thing because I gave something once.  If I think something is an overreach, I retreat.

Questions is, are there any CEX exchanges left where active traders can trade without fear of being asked for their documents? Especially if trader is dealing with bigger amounts.
There are some Centralized Exchanges which still do not ask for Know Your Customer procedures.  Instead of depositing large amounts, why not proceed differently.  Deposit small parts and withdraw after every trade.  If you want to trade $10,000 in branches of $1,000 each, it will take you 10 deposits, 10 trades and 10 withdrawals.  But if they crack down on your account, you lose only $1,000.

For day trading, keep just small amounts in the Exchange Wallet.  That is, if you do not want to be obliged to submit documents.  If increased profit is more important than the risk taken, then there is no reason to whine since it is an assumed risk.

It is unfortunate.  But these are the modern regulations and laws and they may get worse over the next years.  All we can do is either comply or adapt our strategies to their measures.

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Regards,
PrivacyG
hero member
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December 04, 2022, 11:26:35 AM
#21
If Binance started to asked for another KYC details probably they are updating your info and maybe you are trading with a lot of money which requires for another KYC, and with this you can submit it or choose not to. Even if Binance is a top crypto exchanges i will also hesitant to provide any documents pertaining to myself, asked for a reason and ask if there another way either to lower your limit or withdrawals.
Same with what I experienced on some centralized crypto wallet and non crypto wallet that I use. They also ask me to reverify my information. I think this also has to do with the i.'d's that I submit before. They don't allow it now and forces me to use another type of id. I use national id for this because this was the latest i.d that our government implemented.

I do not think this has to do with the limits because I am not transacting heavily and it can take me a long time to fill the small limits that they have but once these limits are reached, it is still possible for it to replenish after some time or I can do the higher level of KYC. This requires documents which are hard to obtain.
legendary
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December 02, 2022, 07:07:29 PM
#20
Have you asked them which law in the EU requires a facial scan and etc? I tried to read some news, the latest one seems to be the Markets in Crypto-assets regulation (MiCA) but it is unclear how it affects exchange and its KYC process. On the surface it sounds more like it is intended to increase the awareness of retail traders about crypto trading risk, forcing exchanges to make education or other similar stuff (at least that's how I interpreted it), not making exchange require more personal info to register.
legendary
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Duelbits.com
December 02, 2022, 04:57:51 PM
#19
If Binance started to asked for another KYC details probably they are updating your info and maybe you are trading with a lot of money which requires for another KYC, and with this you can submit it or choose not to. Even if Binance is a top crypto exchanges i will also hesitant to provide any documents pertaining to myself, asked for a reason and ask if there another way either to lower your limit or withdrawals.
They have updated their KYC partner and now many users from EU has faced similar KYC pop-up logging in Binance exchange. IDNOW team is responsible for proving user identity and my friend has passed this step after 7 failed attempts, after talking to company representative they have confirmed mentioned info then manually approved KYC. Better to ask from Binance support and they will clarify all raised questions during KYC verification.
sr. member
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December 02, 2022, 04:39:14 PM
#18
If Binance started to asked for another KYC details probably they are updating your info and maybe you are trading with a lot of money which requires for another KYC, and with this you can submit it or choose not to. Even if Binance is a top crypto exchanges i will also hesitant to provide any documents pertaining to myself, asked for a reason and ask if there another way either to lower your limit or withdrawals.
legendary
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December 02, 2022, 04:35:25 PM
#17
Is anyone else getting a message when they login in asking for more personal info regarding KYC and AML
What I find most shocking is they want a facial scan as well as a letter with home address

I am previously up to date with it all ie passport and photo of me with it
These new requirements seem an over reach
Do I need to do it, currently I am not buying btc or other coins on the platform but am day trading
Can I hold it off or what is the story
You are from the European Union countries, it is different for us, they ask for this information to pass KYC to prevent criminals and terrorists from using their funds on the exchange platform, what they do is a security precaution so that they are not legally held accountable, I see that you are a day trader so you do many trades a day with amounts varying, which showed their system that there were unusual trades by someone, so they had to request these documents and information from you again, you should not worry if your funds are legitimate and submit the required documents, or you can trade on exchange platforms that do not require the passing of KYC.
full member
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December 02, 2022, 03:55:52 PM
#16
This is a worst KYC when they started to ask for a selfie and a supporting documents, usually user started to avoid these kind of exchanges and your only option is to comply or if you can still access your account then better to get it now. Usually they asked for another KYC if they see huge transactions with your account, so since you’re a day trader you might hit the trigger. Binance is a good exchange but if this is not ok with you then better to ask their support for other possible option.
full member
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December 02, 2022, 01:49:28 PM
#15
In that case you might need to check whether you have surpassed the given transaction limits for your account. The KYC is usually asked for various limits and that have been already mentioned on the binance website clearly. In fact when you are exchanging the coins there is also metered bar which tells you, your daily limit of transaction. If you are crossing that one then they might be asking you for the KYC. However, the only issue in your case is, you saying you have already submitted the passport which is weird because that should be enough for your full kyc. Better ask the staff/official person from Binance if there is anything suspicious going on.
legendary
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December 02, 2022, 11:42:22 AM
#14
Is anyone else getting a message when they login in asking for more personal info regarding KYC and AML
What I find most shocking is they want a facial scan as well as a letter with home address
Same here, I've got the same email in which they are asking both ID/passport and facial scan.


Do I need to do it, currently I am not buying btc or other coins on the platform but am day trading
Can I hold it off or what is the story
If you plan to continue trade there then yes, you will have to do it as depositing will be disabled in 10 days and withdrawal in 30. Regarding holding it off , I've got until 29.12 to do it so I guess you got the same deadline as well.


Find another Exchange respecting your privacy.  The world does not stop at Binance.  There are other great Exchanges out there that still do not oblige you to complete Know Your Customer procedures.  If you think that is an overreach, it is and others should not convince you otherwise.
He already did KYC at Binance so there's not much left to give, except the proof of address thing. Questions is, are there any CEX exchanges left where active traders can trade without fear of being asked for their documents? Especially if trader is dealing with bigger amounts.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
December 02, 2022, 09:40:04 AM
#13
seems ridiculous and a massive invasion of privacy
That's what you choose when you sign up for a centralized exchange. If you would like to continue day trading, then look for an alternative exchange that isn't strict yet. Or you could use no KYC p2p exchanges (https://kycnot.me)

Almost all of those are instant exchanges, day trading with 0.5-1% fees on each trade would mean losing money for any trader or switching from day to weekly to allow at least a 3-5% swing to make a profit. People that day trade on major CEX with huge volumes can't sometimes wait for even one block confirmation before they buy or sell again.
Take one of those p2p rated 9/10, bets offer for me right now is 16620.37 EUR per BTC, and the spot price is 16,133.54, already losing 3%.

If you want to DCA or just cash in some profits after a good week yeah, but day trading, no way!

Do I need to do it, currently I am not buying btc or other coins on the platform but am day trading

Withdraw only should mean no trading also, otherwise what's actually blocked, only deposits?
I have my account also disabled but funny enough my card with ~2$ on it still worked as I bought for fun a bottle of Pepsi in the gas station.
Unfortunately, I can't test trade anymore since I don't hold even 1$ minimum to see if it still works.

hero member
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December 02, 2022, 04:15:03 AM
#12
Find another Exchange respecting your privacy.  The world does not stop at Binance.  There are other great Exchanges out there that still do not oblige you to complete Know Your Customer procedures.  If you think that is an overreach, it is and others should not convince you otherwise.

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Regards,
PrivacyG
hero member
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November 30, 2022, 03:56:18 PM
#11
I've gone through the same process months ago and I have no choice because the only option left for me is to withdraw if I don't comply. You can resist that if you want to and just go to some other exchange and continue trading there. But if you find it a hassle, guess what? You have no choice but to do the same thing as many of us have done and that is to comply with that requirement. Because if you don't do so, your account will have limited features and likely you'll be halted to trade.
hero member
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November 30, 2022, 03:53:01 PM
#10
I have Binance, OKX, Huobi Global and Kucoin account. KYC is mandatory on Binance as we all know. I was unable to access Huobi derivative trading until I submitted KYC. OKX forced me to provide a mobile number when I wanted to withdraw, but that is still cool because that can still be done in a way it will not link to my real identity. I do not know much yet about Kucoin because I opened it two weeks ago, maybe the exchange will still make something pertaining to KYC mandatory or not, only email and password was required for sign up just like login in, it is the most recognized among those no KYC centralized exchanges.
I have to say KYC is not a trouble if you are dealing with exchanges because maybe you and I may not have millions in there, but the overall funds are in billions there, which means they are asking for KYC not for just legal reasons but because they would like to protect you as well.

If something goes wrong then they may ask for your KYC and request it again, this way you will be able to provide it again because you are still you, whereas someone else can't provide it because they are not you. This is why it's good, I had this back in the day in around 2017 I think, or maybe 2018 where someone tried to hack into my account and they were asked for a photo ID with current date, and they couldn't of course so they failed.
legendary
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Gamble responsibly
November 30, 2022, 07:50:10 AM
#9
For alternative centralized exchange with no mandatory KYC, also see: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5414539
Note that they can at any time request for you to verify your account. They're are also likely to get stricter over time.
I have Binance, OKX, Huobi Global and Kucoin account. KYC is mandatory on Binance as we all know. I was unable to access Huobi derivative trading until I submitted KYC. OKX forced me to provide a mobile number when I wanted to withdraw, but that is still cool because that can still be done in a way it will not link to my real identity. I do not know much yet about Kucoin because I opened it two weeks ago, maybe the exchange will still make something pertaining to KYC mandatory or not, only email and password was required for sign up just like login in, it is the most recognized among those no KYC centralized exchanges.
hero member
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yesssir! 🫡
November 30, 2022, 01:06:50 AM
#8
seems ridiculous and a massive invasion of privacy

For alternative centralized exchange with no mandatory KYC, also see: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5414539
Note that they can at any time request for you to verify your account. They're are also likely to get stricter over time.

I recently reset my 2FA but they only require a facial scan they never ask about the utility bill or any proof of where I live.

I'd say it depends on the overall situation

Depending on your country, you might need to upload proof of address. It can be your bank statement or utility bill.
legendary
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November 29, 2022, 06:57:46 PM
#7
What do you mean by "as well as a letter with home address" is it that utility bill with your home address?

I recently reset my 2FA but they only require a facial scan they never ask about the utility bill or any proof of where I live.

Since you are living in EU countries with heavy AML regulation it's pretty normal.
Only P2P exchange is your best option if you don't want to do it.
copper member
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November 29, 2022, 05:29:08 PM
#6
seems ridiculous and a massive invasion of privacy
That's what you choose when you sign up for a centralized exchange. If you would like to continue day trading, then look for an alternative exchange that isn't strict yet. Or you could use no KYC p2p exchanges (https://kycnot.me)

Whats the story with forex do you need to go through all this with forex brokers 
Regulated forex brokers do the same
jr. member
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November 29, 2022, 09:43:46 AM
#5
seems ridiculous and a massive invasion of privacy
Whats the story with forex do you need to go through all this with forex brokers 
hero member
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yesssir! 🫡
November 29, 2022, 08:56:22 AM
#4
People from the EEA needs to undergo the new verification and refusing to do so will restrict the account, see: Why Do I Need to Re-verify My Binance Account (EEA Countries)

As for holding it off, binance will give you notices before your account becomes restricted, you may refer to that. You may also check this thread for ppl's personal experiences: Binance asking for KYC, again
hero member
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November 29, 2022, 06:15:30 AM
#3
Is anyone else getting a message when they login in asking for more personal info regarding KYC and AML
What I find most shocking is they want a facial scan as well as a letter with home address

I am previously up to date with it all ie passport and photo of me with it
These new requirements seem an over reach
Do I need to do it, currently I am not buying btc or other coins on the platform but am day trading
Can I hold it off or what is the story

This is the standard KYC procedure of Binance since they are using AI technology to verify all your documents that’s why they need full scan of your face to match it on the documents the provided. All users that undergo KYC experience that same procedure so that’s not unusual. You can try other exchange that doesn’t require KYC for a certain withdrawal and deposit limit like Bybit.

I believe all exchange has this kind of verification and some has stricter requirements that you need to hold a piece of paper with date and name just to verify your picture is updated. Just use dex if you are not comfortable on KYC like Bisq.
sr. member
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November 29, 2022, 06:04:55 AM
#2
That could be for verification for KYC but if you have done the verification and have been trading freely, it might just be appearing. So you can pass off if it will allow you login and do what you want to do on the exchange. Usually people that have not been successful with KYC get such notification when logging in from time to time.
jr. member
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November 29, 2022, 05:35:05 AM
#1
Is anyone else getting a message when they login in asking for more personal info regarding KYC and AML
What I find most shocking is they want a facial scan as well as a letter with home address

I am previously up to date with it all ie passport and photo of me with it
These new requirements seem an over reach
Do I need to do it, currently I am not buying btc or other coins on the platform but am day trading
Can I hold it off or what is the story
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