Binance Community Listing - Which token will be next on Binance

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Quote from: volporg on November 12, 2019, 04:59:52 PM

Absolutely agree with you. And I have also heard of VRAB being the next token to Binance? Is it true?

As you can see, Binance has launched community listing program and basically, VRAB has huge chances as token is among the most popular on Binance DEX, meeting all the requirements and widely discussed these days

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Quote from: Govorrrue on November 12, 2019, 04:55:12 PM

This is absolutely true. What is also important - the quality of content. Verasity is providing users with content of a higher quality also because of the engagement. Kinda creators work better on their content, so users watch it deeper. In my opinion, this is also a win-win

Absolutely agree with you. And I have also heard of VRAB being the next token to Binance? Is it true?

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Quote from: volporg on November 12, 2019, 04:53:06 PM

Nice to meet you! What I have thought of - the engagement. As far as I understand, as there are many benefits for viewers, like rewards or so, level of engagement should also grow. What are your thoughts on that?

This is absolutely true. What is also important - the quality of content. Verasity is providing users with content of a higher quality also because of the engagement. Kinda creators work better on their content, so users watch it deeper. In my opinion, this is also a win-win

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Quote from: Govorrrue on November 12, 2019, 04:49:02 PM

Hey mate. I am not from the team, however would be happy to assist you in here, cause in general, pretty into what Verasity offers. And you are absolutely right - platform is used by more than 700k users already

Nice to meet you! What I have thought of - the engagement. As far as I understand, as there are many benefits for viewers, like rewards or so, level of engagement should also grow. What are your thoughts on that?

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Quote from: volporg on November 12, 2019, 04:47:00 PM

Good evening there. Just explored Verasity and you know, pretty impressed with the fact that platform is already widely used by large number of users. But if possible, would like to clarify a few moments in here

Hey mate. I am not from the team, however would be happy to assist you in here, cause in general, pretty into what Verasity offers. And you are absolutely right - platform is used by more than 700k users already

volporg

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Good evening there. Just explored Verasity and you know, pretty impressed with the fact that platform is already widely used by large number of users. But if possible, would like to clarify a few moments in here

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 27, 2019, 10:21:06 AM

This has been going on for a while now. If I am not mistaken, two or three tokens from Binance DEX (BDex) were already listed on main Binance exchange. It is a good initiative imo and it also increases volume on BDex.

If you are a fan of trading competitions, BDex is probably one of the exchange to go to because these projects will try to meet the required volume to be eligible for Binance listing.

I can really say that Binance management do really knows on how to play the game.They know that their Binance Dex was still new and now they do

redirect or make use of that "listing" matter to their DEX to increase liquidity.For sure most project will target out since they do know that they would be
listed on the main exchange. Liquidity building though wont really be that easy for each project but at least they would really have that chance to be chosen.

Im not checking too much on Binance Dex though but i conclude that they are doing pretty well.

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Quote from: eastpaa on October 31, 2019, 04:53:18 PM

I am not that experienced, but also met people (both from friends of mine and in different communities), who are not just sharing something abstract, but real arguments for the VRA token. I am now reading more to come up with own opinion

Check out their Medium page, cause there are great long reads and updates there, covering much wider range of information and different aspects. Just to have a bigger picture

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Quote from: yourdano on October 31, 2019, 04:26:39 PM

Quote from: eastpaa on October 31, 2019, 02:46:48 PM

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Quote from: shoreno on October 30, 2019, 05:57:56 PM

sounds great . this means that they will only support legit and quality assured projects and i like the fact that they implement it or they prioritize thier dex version of exchange

. meaning they are also giving a way to bounty hunters to earn more income effeciently , you know if because projects listed on dex exchanges are usually have thier own bounty/airdrop than those who will only be listed on cex based exchange . based on my observation

And are you already voting for any tokens? Also pretty interested to hear your thoughts on more promising ones from the list

You know, I also recommend you to have a look at Binance chat and some other most popular crypto related chats. Because in general, the program is widely discussed and for sure great to see such a high attention. But in general, what makes sense - the arguments people are coming with, I mean on certain tokens

I am active in Binance chat and talking about it, the most widely discussed and the one with highest volume is Verasity (VRAB on Binance DEX). And this is basically what also made me to consider the token closer few days ago. And that’s why I am voting for it and outlining it in here

I am not that experienced, but also met people (both from friends of mine and in different communities), who are not just sharing something abstract, but real arguments for the VRA token. I am now reading more to come up with own opinion

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Quote from: eastpaa on October 31, 2019, 02:46:48 PM

Quote from: yourdano on October 31, 2019, 02:39:09 PM

Quote from: shoreno on October 30, 2019, 05:57:56 PM

sounds great . this means that they will only support legit and quality assured projects and i like the fact that they implement it or they prioritize thier dex version of exchange

. meaning they are also giving a way to bounty hunters to earn more income effeciently , you know if because projects listed on dex exchanges are usually have thier own bounty/airdrop than those who will only be listed on cex based exchange . based on my observation

And are you already voting for any tokens? Also pretty interested to hear your thoughts on more promising ones from the list

You know, I also recommend you to have a look at Binance chat and some other most popular crypto related chats. Because in general, the program is widely discussed and for sure great to see such a high attention. But in general, what makes sense - the arguments people are coming with, I mean on certain tokens

I am active in Binance chat and talking about it, the most widely discussed and the one with highest volume is Verasity (VRAB on Binance DEX). And this is basically what also made me to consider the token closer few days ago. And that’s why I am voting for it and outlining it in here

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Quote from: yourdano on October 31, 2019, 02:39:09 PM

Quote from: shoreno on October 30, 2019, 05:57:56 PM

sounds great . this means that they will only support legit and quality assured projects and i like the fact that they implement it or they prioritize thier dex version of exchange

. meaning they are also giving a way to bounty hunters to earn more income effeciently , you know if because projects listed on dex exchanges are usually have thier own bounty/airdrop than those who will only be listed on cex based exchange . based on my observation

And are you already voting for any tokens? Also pretty interested to hear your thoughts on more promising ones from the list

You know, I also recommend you to have a look at Binance chat and some other most popular crypto related chats. Because in general, the program is widely discussed and for sure great to see such a high attention. But in general, what makes sense - the arguments people are coming with, I mean on certain tokens

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Quote from: shoreno on October 30, 2019, 05:57:56 PM

sounds great . this means that they will only support legit and quality assured projects and i like the fact that they implement it or they prioritize thier dex version of exchange

. meaning they are also giving a way to bounty hunters to earn more income effeciently , you know if because projects listed on dex exchanges are usually have thier own bounty/airdrop than those who will only be listed on cex based exchange . based on my observation

And are you already voting for any tokens? Also pretty interested to hear your thoughts on more promising ones from the list

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sounds great . this means that they will only support legit and quality assured projects and i like the fact that they implement it or they prioritize thier dex version of exchange

. meaning they are also giving a way to bounty hunters to earn more income effeciently , you know if because projects listed on dex exchanges are usually have thier own bounty/airdrop than those who will only be listed on cex based exchange . based on my observation

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Quote from: sobhoun on October 30, 2019, 04:42:38 PM

Quote from: khirech on October 30, 2019, 04:24:43 PM

Quote from: kurtkeen on October 30, 2019, 04:10:28 PM

Quote from: khirech on October 30, 2019, 03:51:25 PM

Quote from: yourdano on October 30, 2019, 02:30:57 PM

That’s true, but DEXes in general also bring many benefits and allow tokens to grow. Still, what is your choice?

Mine is still the same. Because I always go for own estimation and try to look at everything that makes sense to me. I am having very high requirements, but this is what allows me to find much more professional solutions overall

And your choice is VRAB? Or EVT? Cause your pathway indeed looks pretty rationa, but interested to understand on a more precise example

VRAB is number 1 for me right now and this is what comes without flattering. It is enough to have a look at the real users (check their chat, Binance community thread etc) to understand that trading volume is also followed by incredibly high attention and demand

besides, imho, things that matter are fully working platform with more than 700k active users, just discovered that. And did you know that CZ follows VRA on Twitter?

Didn't know that, but just checked, true story. So you wanna say that this all stay for higher prospects?

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Quote from: khirech on October 30, 2019, 04:24:43 PM

Quote from: kurtkeen on October 30, 2019, 04:10:28 PM

Quote from: khirech on October 30, 2019, 03:51:25 PM

Quote from: yourdano on October 30, 2019, 02:30:57 PM

That’s true, but DEXes in general also bring many benefits and allow tokens to grow. Still, what is your choice?

Mine is still the same. Because I always go for own estimation and try to look at everything that makes sense to me. I am having very high requirements, but this is what allows me to find much more professional solutions overall

And your choice is VRAB? Or EVT? Cause your pathway indeed looks pretty rationa, but interested to understand on a more precise example

VRAB is number 1 for me right now and this is what comes without flattering. It is enough to have a look at the real users (check their chat, Binance community thread etc) to understand that trading volume is also followed by incredibly high attention and demand

besides, imho, things that matter are fully working platform with more than 700k active users, just discovered that. And did you know that CZ follows VRA on Twitter?

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Quote from: kurtkeen on October 30, 2019, 04:10:28 PM

Quote from: khirech on October 30, 2019, 03:51:25 PM

Quote from: yourdano on October 30, 2019, 02:30:57 PM

That’s true, but DEXes in general also bring many benefits and allow tokens to grow. Still, what is your choice?

Mine is still the same. Because I always go for own estimation and try to look at everything that makes sense to me. I am having very high requirements, but this is what allows me to find much more professional solutions overall

And your choice is VRAB? Or EVT? Cause your pathway indeed looks pretty rationa, but interested to understand on a more precise example

VRAB is number 1 for me right now and this is what comes without flattering. It is enough to have a look at the real users (check their chat, Binance community thread etc) to understand that trading volume is also followed by incredibly high attention and demand

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Quote from: khirech on October 30, 2019, 03:51:25 PM

Quote from: yourdano on October 30, 2019, 02:30:57 PM

That’s true, but DEXes in general also bring many benefits and allow tokens to grow. Still, what is your choice?

Mine is still the same. Because I always go for own estimation and try to look at everything that makes sense to me. I am having very high requirements, but this is what allows me to find much more professional solutions overall

And your choice is VRAB? Or EVT? Cause your pathway indeed looks pretty rationa, but interested to understand on a more precise example

khirech

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Quote from: yourdano on October 30, 2019, 02:30:57 PM

That’s true, but DEXes in general also bring many benefits and allow tokens to grow. Still, what is your choice?

Mine is still the same. Because I always go for own estimation and try to look at everything that makes sense to me. I am having very high requirements, but this is what allows me to find much more professional solutions overall

yourdano

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That’s true, but DEXes in general also bring many benefits and allow tokens to grow. Still, what is your choice?

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Quote from: biddicoin on October 29, 2019, 01:16:25 PM

Quote from: safari88 on October 29, 2019, 11:49:13 AM

Quote from: yourdano on October 28, 2019, 05:53:04 PM

Quote from: kurtkeen on October 28, 2019, 04:51:45 PM

Is community listing available for all the users and verified traders of Binance / Binance DEX? Cause I am aware of 3 last tokens you've mentioned, but hearing about such a contest for the first time. Would be also happy to participate and vote

Yes, for everyone. The requirements stay for tokens, not for users. For example, 50k volume is required. And if we have a look at all the retirements at first, it is pretty clear that only few tokens remain

And that's why people are noticing VRAB and several other tokens in here this often

from where you see that 50k volume is required for the token to be listed on community voting?
because i look at the rules again and i don't see anything regarding that

even the text is bold in the rules

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To be eligible, projects need to reach daily trading volume of at least 50,000 USD in their respective trading pair on Binance DEX each day over the activity period (one full month). Daily trading volume is calculated from 0:00 AM (UTC) to 0:00 AM (UTC) of the next day (a full 24 hours).

This community listing is one of thing i like beside IEO in binance. So far it is going well and smooth
it would increase token volume because CEX has more volume than DEX in binance

Dex platform will take some time to get a reputation in the market because most of the coin trading in the other dex platform is exchanging their blockchain to Binance chain and it will surely take time to get a reputation for the Binance Dex platform.

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Quote from: eastpaa on October 29, 2019, 04:07:33 PM

Such a way (the one Binance is coming with) allows to be more objective with voting. Why? Because they let community to choose. And that’s what allows to list only best and in-demand solutions onto Binance. Cause users choose from the ones they love the most. You say VRAB, NEW, EVT, PYN. I need to do a little own research

Very important to conduct own research and indeed have a look at all tokens Wink

And will be interested to hear your thoughts after you evaluate everything on your own

eastpaa

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Such a way (the one Binance is coming with) allows to be more objective with voting. Why? Because they let community to choose. And that’s what allows to list only best and in-demand solutions onto Binance. Cause users choose from the ones they love the most. You say VRAB, NEW, EVT, PYN. I need to do a little own research

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Quote from: biddicoin on October 29, 2019, 01:16:25 PM

Quote from: safari88 on October 29, 2019, 11:49:13 AM

Quote from: yourdano on October 28, 2019, 05:53:04 PM

Quote from: kurtkeen on October 28, 2019, 04:51:45 PM

Is community listing available for all the users and verified traders of Binance / Binance DEX? Cause I am aware of 3 last tokens you've mentioned, but hearing about such a contest for the first time. Would be also happy to participate and vote

Yes, for everyone. The requirements stay for tokens, not for users. For example, 50k volume is required. And if we have a look at all the retirements at first, it is pretty clear that only few tokens remain

And that's why people are noticing VRAB and several other tokens in here this often

from where you see that 50k volume is required for the token to be listed on community voting?
because i look at the rules again and i don't see anything regarding that

even the text is bold in the rules

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To be eligible, projects need to reach daily trading volume of at least 50,000 USD in their respective trading pair on Binance DEX each day over the activity period (one full month). Daily trading volume is calculated from 0:00 AM (UTC) to 0:00 AM (UTC) of the next day (a full 24 hours).

This community listing is one of thing i like beside IEO in binance. So far it is going well and smooth
it would increase token volume because CEX has more volume than DEX in binance

Yes, Binance DEX is definitely offering exclusive spectrum of tokens and one of the leading and most promising ones. So this opportunity to choose is also a huge benefit for all token holders and users. And I love that people are offering different tokens and coins here, sharing different views and opinions

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Quote from: safari88 on October 29, 2019, 11:49:13 AM

Quote from: yourdano on October 28, 2019, 05:53:04 PM

Quote from: kurtkeen on October 28, 2019, 04:51:45 PM

Is community listing available for all the users and verified traders of Binance / Binance DEX? Cause I am aware of 3 last tokens you've mentioned, but hearing about such a contest for the first time. Would be also happy to participate and vote

Yes, for everyone. The requirements stay for tokens, not for users. For example, 50k volume is required. And if we have a look at all the retirements at first, it is pretty clear that only few tokens remain

And that's why people are noticing VRAB and several other tokens in here this often

from where you see that 50k volume is required for the token to be listed on community voting?
because i look at the rules again and i don't see anything regarding that

even the text is bold in the rules

Quote

To be eligible, projects need to reach daily trading volume of at least 50,000 USD in their respective trading pair on Binance DEX each day over the activity period (one full month). Daily trading volume is calculated from 0:00 AM (UTC) to 0:00 AM (UTC) of the next day (a full 24 hours).

This community listing is one of thing i like beside IEO in binance. So far it is going well and smooth
it would increase token volume because CEX has more volume than DEX in binance

yourdano

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Because after once again reading more on VRAB, I see the guys just offering more. But NEW token seems to be also pretty great one with prospects. But if we take demand and volume into consideration , no similar to VRAB solutions, as I see

yourdano

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And as for voting, are you following only one token, like VRAB? And should we vote for 1 only? Or several suggestions are OK?

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Quote from: RBF on October 29, 2019, 11:56:51 AM

Binance dex looks not promising anymore too, I am not interested in their listing. I only care about Binance CEX, which is the king of all crypto exchanges! Binance dex keeps listing average projects, which is not goes with the Binance platform!

The reason why they are listing everything on Binance dex because they want to get more users from various communities and introduce their Binance cex to them. It has never been designed as good as Binance cex to begin with, so do not feel surprised about their listing.
look at their pegged things, this alone explains how desperate they are trying to get more audience from different communities by using their chain token pegged with a native coin.

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Binance dex looks not promising anymore too, I am not interested in their listing. I only care about Binance CEX, which is the king of all crypto exchanges! Binance dex keeps listing average projects, which is not goes with the Binance platform!

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There are a lot of coins on Binance DEX that were added recently. Maybe Binance DEX is a kind of middleman and projects that wish to list on Binance are even changing their blockchain into BEP-5 tokens to be eligible.

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Quote from: yourdano on October 28, 2019, 05:53:04 PM

Quote from: kurtkeen on October 28, 2019, 04:51:45 PM

Is community listing available for all the users and verified traders of Binance / Binance DEX? Cause I am aware of 3 last tokens you've mentioned, but hearing about such a contest for the first time. Would be also happy to participate and vote

Yes, for everyone. The requirements stay for tokens, not for users. For example, 50k volume is required. And if we have a look at all the retirements at first, it is pretty clear that only few tokens remain

And that's why people are noticing VRAB and several other tokens in here this often

from where you see that 50k volume is required for the token to be listed on community voting?
because i look at the rules again and i don't see anything regarding that

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Quote from: arrangut on October 27, 2019, 09:08:47 AM

Good afternoon everyone. Just read the news that Binance has opened own program, aimed at supporting the development of high quality blockchain projects in the industry. Main point in here is to support the development of high quality blockchain projects in the listing at least one project on Binance each month over 3 months, selected from the projects currently trading on Binance DEX. So I wonder - are you having own favorites you can advice on? And what are your thoughts on initiative in general? And here is more on rules https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/360029155992

It's really amazing how strong the Binance community is. Just a vote listing competition between Carry protocol (CRE) and ARPA made the two coins see over 24 percent rise in the taste 24 hours. I am a Carry protocol fan anyway and I hope it wins.

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Quote from: kurtkeen on October 28, 2019, 04:51:45 PM

Is community listing available for all the users and verified traders of Binance / Binance DEX? Cause I am aware of 3 last tokens you've mentioned, but hearing about such a contest for the first time. Would be also happy to participate and vote

Yes, for everyone. The requirements stay for tokens, not for users. For example, 50k volume is required. And if we have a look at all the retirements at first, it is pretty clear that only few tokens remain

And that's why people are noticing VRAB and several other tokens in here this often

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Is community listing available for all the users and verified traders of Binance / Binance DEX? Cause I am aware of 3 last tokens you've mentioned, but hearing about such a contest for the first time. Would be also happy to participate and vote

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You are all having pretty different views on tokens and further listing, but what do you pay attention to, when you share one or another token being promising? You've mentioned different ones, VRAB, PYN. What should i check? Checked the Binance community and seems that many people were voting for VRAB. What did you find there?

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Quote from: cybernetik7 on October 28, 2019, 02:21:56 PM

I have just discovered the news, had a look. As I see, pretty limited number of tokens have wide and valuable concept. I logged on and checked, seems that now people are voting actively for VRAB and CNNS. Which one from these 2 is more attractive to you?

For me, after own exploration, VRAB. And this is not just something, but own understanding of components that must be included. Working platform with more than 700 active users, high and real demand and support in many crypto spaces. But these are just my critetia. Probably you have other favorites? Interested to hear

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I have just discovered the news, had a look. As I see, pretty limited number of tokens have wide and valuable concept. I logged on and checked, seems that now people are voting actively for VRAB and CNNS. Which one from these 2 is more attractive to you?

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Quote from: arrangut on October 27, 2019, 09:08:47 AM

Good afternoon everyone. Just read the news that Binance has opened own program, aimed at supporting the development of high quality blockchain projects in the industry. Main point in here is to support the development of high quality blockchain projects in the listing at least one project on Binance each month over 3 months, selected from the projects currently trading on Binance DEX. So I wonder - are you having own favorites you can advice on? And what are your thoughts on initiative in general? And here is more on rules https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/360029155992

My favorite coin is already listed in Binance exchange. If you asking for new coin, I will support for credits. Although 3 months free offer is now over. Last fight was Vidy and NGN, unfortunately I supported for Vidy token. This free offer is for promoting Binance dex.

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I'm not a fan of Decentralized Exchange but I'm willing to give it a try. Binance DEX seems to be on top when it comes to DEX token trading. Picking the right token will give potential profit for you as they list good token from their DEX to their main CEX. But so hard to determine which one will be listed since all of them are doing really well.

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Quote from: yourdano on October 27, 2019, 03:16:45 PM

I don't fully agree with you that only top currencies must be considered and everything is done to pursue own BNB token. Many bold solutions stay on binance DEX, even though people are asking for Binance. And I was thinking of EVT, but after lower volume lately also thinking of VRAB or PYN.

VRAB and PYN are having large volumes now? What do you pay attention, when you make conclusions? And are there many tokens from Binance DEX having prospects to be listed? Or only these 2?

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I don't fully agree with you that only top currencies must be considered and everything is done to pursue own BNB token. Many bold solutions stay on binance DEX, even though people are asking for Binance. And I was thinking of EVT, but after lower volume lately also thinking of VRAB or PYN.

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It was old news, we do not need to care about it anymore because Binance has determined which coin that will be listed on Binance Dex.
they are aiming for top 10 cryptocurrencies to be listed on their DEX and using token pegged with a real native coin to boost their Binance chain value.
last week they were adding XRP and right now they want to list Bitcoin Cash.

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Maybe they should list blockmason link because I have some loads of it, I fear they may not list it because the team doesn't think it wise to provide liquidity for the trade on BinanceDex and they already protocol on binance main exchange. Xbase is there but the price is useless and keeps going down.

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I was guessing BOLT may be the next project on Binance but it has not enough volume on DEX Sad

So I'll pass it for now.

My favorite is VRAB for the next listing on Binance. It has enough volume and supporters. This is a good sign. What do you think guys should buy a little bit? You know it will be pumped once listed on Binance. I'll give it a try hmm maybe not sure yet

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This has been going on for a while now. If I am not mistaken, two or three tokens from Binance DEX (BDex) were already listed on main Binance exchange. It is a good initiative imo and it also increases volume on BDex.

If you are a fan of trading competitions, BDex is probably one of the exchange to go to because these projects will try to meet the required volume to be eligible for Binance listing.

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Good afternoon everyone. Just read the news that Binance has opened own program, aimed at supporting the development of high quality blockchain projects in the industry. Main point in here is to support the development of high quality blockchain projects in the listing at least one project on Binance each month over 3 months, selected from the projects currently trading on Binance DEX. So I wonder - are you having own favorites you can advice on? And what are your thoughts on initiative in general? And here is more on rules https://www.binance.com/en/support/articles/360029155992

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