Topic: Bistler block accounts without presenting evidence,They are stealing the money o (Read 396 times)

I messed up quotes, i'll fix that.  

Just clear things, that quoted message is not written by me but it was OP message google translated.

That's why I suggested blocking accounts only based on accusing either faucet or referrals farming instead of having multiple accounts. Some people may feel to play with new account each time because they think that they may get better winning chances. This rule not allowing to use that method so they should consider to alter the rule but shouldn't allow people to accuse their system.

Is this the way you come up with a scam accusation against a site,what were you doing for the past one year and what made you to tell this to the world all of a sudden.  I have not heard about people loosing satoshis before  ,do you really think that a site with reputation will spoil everything for a tiny drop of coins.If you can tell your user name as the support team asked,do provide that,if not i do think you are asking for a negative rep for false accusation.

I have to say that I have had this issue at many sites. Also lots of addresses which is my ISP providing are blacklisted and sometimes I have troubles accessing various sites.
Best example is https://www.blocktrail.com, one day I am banned from it and next day I can access it without any problems.
Dynamic IP can give false positive result and it is not my fault that I have shitty ISP provider and I really can't do anything about it.

Crazy, don't use VPN because you can get the same IP as someone else and don't use your ISP because you will get the same address as someone else, well how the hell are we supposed do gamble then?

Maybe OP abused site in some way - faucet farming, self-referral and that triggered fraud system?

Do they not check the device you use?

Bitsler is on the Curacao licensing scam operators list, but you can sue them in Curacao if you have done nothing wrong.

I think this issue will go nowhere, no valid proofs from OP. Only saying bitsler stealing money from many users without even talking about the amount. At least you should provide how much and how you get that amount? Is that from faucet betting or from your own deposit?
You cant even prove that you deserves to get what you claim as your money.

I don't know what country you are from but in most first world countries you are innocent until proven guilty. And the evidence needs to be factual and can't be circumstantial.

Bitsler is just protecting themselves here from any potential future liabilities issues.

they're blocking without proof. If the police catch you and tell you you're a pedophile,and without trial,they'll put you in jail, and when you tell them it's not your fault, they'll demand that you bring in all the kids you've seen.or talked in my entire life has led and what would they confirm that you are not a maniac,you'll be able to do it?

they have  a rule of only two accounts per person
why would they bend the rules to suit one particular gambler?
especially the one that  goes around accusing them of stealing the money without presenting any evidence
he can be genuinely unaware of any other players sharing ip with him or just using public vpns or proxies together with other "smart" players
doesn't matter-if the system detects several players sharing one IP it will block the accounts
stealing deposits I think is a slight exaggeration on his part,probably some small change made from the faucet

It is English thread so you should try to translate and post your comment otherwise difficult to understand. Here is the translated answer.

6 Dec., 5:05 EET

Hello,
I would very much like to believe this, but your IP address and the number of accounts on it indicate the opposite.
It is PROHIBITED to have more than 2 accounts per person / IP address / home / family and so on.
If your provider issues 1 address per 1000 people, then we can not do anything here.
The system recognizes your account and the accounts associated with your account as multi-account.

I'm sorry, you need to deal with your ISP.
All the best,
Angelina

I feel that if gambler not accusing with referrals or faucet but always playing with their money in those multi-accounts then should allow having more accounts. My place also it is shared IP addresses so I can't do anything on that part.  

Because admin can always check this part easily. It is just my opinion.

Yes, it's revenge. After they asked me for information about all the IP addresses that I entered the Internet, I told them that it is unfair, and what I say to all people that they will know that bestler scammers . They laughed at me and said it would be a good advertisement for them . I am not going to prove anything to them, because it is useless, I am not going to return my funds, I do not need their compensation, I want everyone to know that they are scammers . I said that moneypot.com scammers steal money . Me, who does not believe ,I testified how they cheat players , but even those who wrote comments in this thread saying that I resent them for what I lost I said it wrong ,I showed a photo where you can see that they are not credited to the balance of the money won , they said it was a graphical error ,but it is not true , it's premeditated stealing money ,those who noticed, they return money to those who have not noticed taken

Bitsler wont really make this far upto these days if those things you do claim was true. IP restrictions is common among gambling sites which they do really blocked accounts if they do saw fraudulent activities such as faucet abusing and other related means. They do have the right since its being state on their ToS which isn't surprising on such decision. If you do find it not right then you can anytime send out support ticket and explain on what you are trying to prove here.

I've never asked you to provide anything,I'm not a support for Bitsler
but there is the official representative of Bitsler asking you the same question
please,provide information about who when and why was blocked
all you are saying is "a year ago,many players,more than a million satoshis" it sounds more than vague
and seems like a personal vendetta of a player who was blocked for playing only faucet from multiple accounts

Mind to answer what Bitsler support ask? Provide him your username and let him to check although I'm sure Bitsler has done what they have to do correctly.
Any sites has the right to block any accounts that break the rules. Once you break the rules then you have no right to ask your money. Why they should give the money if you break the rule?

I addressed them, they told that I would provide them all ip addresses from which I came into game.I told them that I have no such information ,they said it was not their problem and that I'd contacted my Internet provider. After that, I never have Affairs with them,they've stolen more than a million of Satos .That was over a year ago. I created this topic because these players very much .Yes, they used the tap ,but it is not prohibited . Many have lost 2-3 million Satos .I believe that the casino has no right to block the account. If you think the player has broken the rules then give him back his money ,and only after that block .And they block money, demand to provide them information which plaer does not have .

His account most probably is banned due to faucet abuse related IP, why would a gambling site block/lock a deposing player? op if you didn't abuse faucet then you'll get your deposit/money back. i've seen a problem like this solved smoothly. contact their support!

How much do you have on your account when it got blocked? I do not think they are scamming anyone even if they only have small balance on their account. You should take this as some serious matters when you said they are scamming you
Do you even contact them and ask why they blocked your account? They must have their reason to block it. And what you saying about ip does not really matter to them, as long as you are not abusing their faucet then it will not be a big problem

Hello sir,

I'm not sure to understand your point.

What is your Bitsler username ?

"They are stealing the money "
Did you have issues to withdraw your funds from Bitlser ?
Did you tried to contact our support ? 

Thanks for answering if you need help.

you know how to read?I was talking about the auto bet system, stop doing spam in themes.

Again, you say something against Bitsler but it is so funny to read your post that you suggest other site to be like Bitsler. Are you trying to be a comedian who make the forum member to laugh at you?


Last, you should admit if you did something wrong. No sites will blocked user's accounts without valid reason.

I'm not gonna prove anything to you,I've already done it.And you asked me to provide a complete list of the ip addresses that I've played from on your site, you know perfectly well that it's impossible, every time I go online, my ISP gives out a new ip address, I have no access to the database of IP addresses of the Corporation providing me with the Internet . You are scammers who steal players ' money.

you have to read the TOS,they do not go around randomly blocking accounts
they do that for people who create rings of multis to abuse faucets
some clever guys were using hundreds of aaccounts to claim faucets day and night
if you as admin paying 0.5 bitcoins a day in faucet wins,you are certainly going to fight the abuse
bitsler is doing exactly that,also don't like the statements without any proof to back it up
who was blocked,when,why
names,sister

If I'm not wrong they are not worried about multiple accounts with same IP address if the account is not referred by someone and play with your money, not with faucet money.

But if you register under someone as a referral account and mostly play with their free money then it is not correct so they may block your account. Because they need to protect from faucet abusers and from fake referrals.

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Translation


hundreds of players were deprived of their money ,the administration of bistler,they just blocked without presenting evidence in violation of the rules,they are required to provide the entire list of ip addresses used by the player,knowing that the average member there is no access address of the provider of Iternet.All Internet service providers use gray ip addresses for their clients,so they register more than 1000 users to 1 real (white) ip address . Administration Bistler knows this, and uses this as a reason for the blocking and further theft of player funds , saying that on 1 ip address too many accounts. And require the player to provide a whole list of ip addresses from which he accessed the Internet.Players change their ip address every time they connect to the Internet,they do not have access to the ip addresses from which they access the Internet