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Quote from: ImHash on July 11, 2017, 03:13:01 PM

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Quote from: Andre_Goldman on June 06, 2017, 02:05:07 PM

Inspired by a book "The Datacenter as a Computer: an Introduction to the Design of Warehouse-scale Machines Synthesis Lectures on Computer Architecture" (isbn 9781598295566).

I wonder if you fellows see bitcoin ecosystem as ...

BTC is a huge computer ... Cool

YES! BUT, the BTC doesn't stand for Bitcoin, it stands for Blockchain. The Blockchain is the "supercomputer". Seriously.

Quote from: odolvlobo on June 06, 2017, 04:09:28 PM

Not Bitcoin. You are referring to Ethereum.

Ethereum provides templates of the Blockchain, for any person or organizaiton to levarge. Ethereum isn't the Blockchain, they're not the supercomputer, but they are making blockchain technology easier to access/use. They're selling supercomputers.

Nonsense, blockchain is just a bunch of data, bitcoin still isn't a super computer, miners combined together could be, but they are already doing their job which is mining. ETH or BTC could not be used for anything other than issuing coins and processing transactions.

according ETH creators, ETH is a Turing completeness[1] while Bitcoin’s scripting system was deliberately made to be not Turing-complete to protect the network’s peers from malicious and buggy code that could end up in an infinity loop or something ...

I was using the term computing in a broad sense[2] ... remember that this things bellow are (on the textbooks) considered computers too[3] ...

Abacus

Joseph Marie Jacquard, who in 1801 made the 1st programmable loom, the basis for modern data computation.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness
[2] A computer is a device that can be instructed to carry out an arbitrary set of arithmetic or logical operations automatically
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_computing_hardware

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Quote from: HabBear on July 11, 2017, 01:49:29 PM

Quote from: Andre_Goldman on June 06, 2017, 02:05:07 PM

Inspired by a book "The Datacenter as a Computer: an Introduction to the Design of Warehouse-scale Machines Synthesis Lectures on Computer Architecture" (isbn 9781598295566).

I wonder if you fellows see bitcoin ecosystem as ...

BTC is a huge computer ... Cool

YES! BUT, the BTC doesn't stand for Bitcoin, it stands for Blockchain. The Blockchain is the "supercomputer". Seriously.

Quote from: odolvlobo on June 06, 2017, 04:09:28 PM

Not Bitcoin. You are referring to Ethereum.

Ethereum provides templates of the Blockchain, for any person or organizaiton to levarge. Ethereum isn't the Blockchain, they're not the supercomputer, but they are making blockchain technology easier to access/use. They're selling supercomputers.

Nonsense, blockchain is just a bunch of data, bitcoin still isn't a super computer, miners combined together could be, but they are already doing their job which is mining. ETH or BTC could not be used for anything other than issuing coins and processing transactions.

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Quote from: Andre_Goldman on June 06, 2017, 02:05:07 PM

Inspired by a book "The Datacenter as a Computer: an Introduction to the Design of Warehouse-scale Machines Synthesis Lectures on Computer Architecture" (isbn 9781598295566).

I wonder if you fellows see bitcoin ecosystem as ...

BTC is a huge computer ... Cool

YES! BUT, the BTC doesn't stand for Bitcoin, it stands for Blockchain. The Blockchain is the "supercomputer". Seriously.

Quote from: odolvlobo on June 06, 2017, 04:09:28 PM

Not Bitcoin. You are referring to Ethereum.

Ethereum provides templates of the Blockchain, for any person or organizaiton to levarge. Ethereum isn't the Blockchain, they're not the supercomputer, but they are making blockchain technology easier to access/use. They're selling supercomputers.

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What does this super computer do actually other than abiding by the bitcoin's code only without any other available function? can you render intense graphical frames with it?? bitcoin network is like a giant but with no hands and legs to walk and interact with the world, it just eats whatever we give this giant, not even ETH could be a super computer they are all just like a ticking clock without actually showing the time.

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Quote from: BillyBobZorton on July 11, 2017, 11:56:50 AM

Money is not a computer, this is why Ethereum will never work as money. Sure you could call the network some sort of super computer, but I dont see how that is an appropriate description, the only thing being calculated are the hashes, but Ethereum aims at being a "global computer" and that may be its downfall. Turing complete global computer... the opposite of sound money. It will never be a store of value or a currency or anything similar.

Thats actually the untapped potential of ETH and this is something I have read about it some time ago but what happen is that everybody just focus on the currency aspect which I have a feeling is not sustainable long term. On the part of bitcoin, to determine whether its a computer or not is to go back memory lane to the beginning to understand the purpose of bitcoin itself which I have yet to read anywhere that it represent a super computer.

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Money is not a computer, this is why Ethereum will never work as money. Sure you could call the network some sort of super computer, but I dont see how that is an appropriate description, the only thing being calculated are the hashes, but Ethereum aims at being a "global computer" and that may be its downfall. Turing complete global computer... the opposite of sound money. It will never be a store of value or a currency or anything similar.

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Bitcoin was relatively dormant in 2015, but it is far from dead. The 21 Bitcoin Computer was released on November 16th 2015; with it comes a Raspberry Pi, a set of integrated Bitcoin payments tools, and a set of tutorials on how to use the Bitcoin Computer for undertaking various tasks.

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Quote from: Andre_Goldman on June 06, 2017, 02:05:07 PM

Inspired by a book "The Datacenter as a Computer: an Introduction to the Design of Warehouse-scale Machines Synthesis Lectures on Computer Architecture" (isbn 9781598295566).

I wonder if you fellows see bitcoin ecosystem as ...

BTC is a huge computer ... Cool

Not Bitcoin. You are referring to Ethereum.

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Quote from: U2 on June 06, 2017, 02:17:30 PM

Ok ya it's a huge supercomputer, we've all heard that before. But a huge supercomputer that can only solve SHA256 so... what's the real point other than being a currency?

we don't have mathematical proof for one-way-function quote from Bruce Schneider's book ..

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if we are being strictly mathematical, we have no proof that one-way functions exist, nor any real evidence that they can be constructed230,530,600,661] [

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Even so, many functions look and smell one-way

... If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck ..

SHA256 is indeed a good start point, since SHA1 RIP (killed by Google)

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I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not sure...

Ok ya it's a huge supercomputer, we've all heard that before. But a huge supercomputer that can only solve SHA256 so... what's the real point other than being a currency?

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Inspired by a book "The Datacenter as a Computer: an Introduction to the Design of Warehouse-scale Machines Synthesis Lectures on Computer Architecture" (isbn 9781598295566).

I wonder if you fellows see bitcoin ecosystem as ...

BTC is a huge computer ... Cool

https://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/system-metrics

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