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Topic: Bitcoin available soon to trade on etoro (Read 7332 times)

legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
chaos is fun...…damental :)
March 14, 2013, 03:15:57 PM
#39
Well I think we are a long way away from anyone having a chance with a long term short. Maybe if we get up past 300 this year it will be possible... otherwise, they are just asking for pain.
data> guess
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FORCED EXECUTED @ 47.7499(-6.87): was FORCED PARTIALLY FILLED @ 47.7499(-0.02)

FORCED EXECUTED @ 47.581(-12.49): was FORCED PARTIALLY FILLED @ 47.6801(-0.76),PARTIALLY FILLED @ 47.6801(-0.01),PARTIALLY FILLED @ 47.6801(-0.01),PARTIALLY FILLED @ 47.6801(-0.01),PARTIALLY FILLED @ 47.68(-0.01),PARTIALLY FILLED @ 47.68(-0.01),PARTIALLY
https://bitfinex.com/pages/public_log
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
Enabling the maximal migration
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!

I can hear the cries already from the margin calls
short magin calls or long margin calls ?

Well I think we are a long way away from anyone having a chance with a long term short. Maybe if we get up past 300 this year it will be possible... otherwise, they are just asking for pain.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1001
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!

I can hear the cries already from the margin calls
short magin calls or long margin calls ?

Doesn't really matter. They'll both be crying soon... gambling is still gambling, and only the house wins  Grin
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
chaos is fun...…damental :)
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!

I can hear the cries already from the margin calls
short magin calls or long margin calls ?
legendary
Activity: 1031
Merit: 1000
i hope they are aware that they cannot apply the usual CFD logic with bitcoin. unlike gold or big securities even modest amount of money can swing the price. someone should tell them before they get burned

Why tell them? Better to skin them and put the pelt up on the wall.
hero member
Activity: 668
Merit: 501
i hope they are aware that they cannot apply the usual CFD logic with bitcoin. unlike gold or big securities even modest amount of money can swing the price. someone should tell them before they get burned
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
Enabling the maximal migration
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!

I can hear the cries already from the margin calls
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
chaos is fun...…damental :)
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!

legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!

Every short that opens has to be closed sooner or later. Repeat after me: For every BTC sold through shorting, a BTC will have to be bought to close the position. Shorting's net effect will be exactly zero. All this will do this stabilize the price, as shorting can temporarily suppress the price if it rises too fast in the eyes of the bears, which is a good thing.

are you joking?...

yeah, you gotta buy back what you shorted, at a lower price!!!!

40btc at $50 are not the same as 40btc at ten....
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1031
Rational Exuberance
CEO of etoro is funding bitcoinx.org (they are working on colored coins, aka ripple on the bitcoin block-chain). I talk to Yoni all the time, trying to convince him to do colored coins my way, and that if he does I'll make him the richest man in the world. Haven't convinced him of that yet, but he is definitely into bitcoins big-time.
sr. member
Activity: 800
Merit: 250
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10

I think that's just a scam with a similar name. Try https://exante.eu/.

Ah, yes.  Thank you.
jr. member
Activity: 57
Merit: 1
quote from site "The funds shares are distributed exclusively through the EXANTE Hedge Fund Marketplace platform" 

I see where EXANTE is listed on the HYIP Monitor site:

http://www.hyips-monitor.com/?search=EXANTE

Maybe Pirate's got a piece of this action...

I think that's just a scam with a similar name. Try https://exante.eu/.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
quote from site "The funds shares are distributed exclusively through the EXANTE Hedge Fund Marketplace platform" 

I see where EXANTE is listed on the HYIP Monitor site:

http://www.hyips-monitor.com/?search=EXANTE

Maybe Pirate's got a piece of this action...
sr. member
Activity: 323
Merit: 251
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!

Every short that opens has to be closed sooner or later. Repeat after me: For every BTC sold through shorting, a BTC will have to be bought to close the position. Shorting's net effect will be exactly zero. All this will do this stabilize the price, as shorting can temporarily suppress the price if it rises too fast in the eyes of the bears, which is a good thing.
And even more imporantly, it provides liquidity in the event of a crash as the shorts cover their positions. Thus making it easier to find the floor.

This is why banning short selling during the 2008 crash in the financial markets were so stupid. The shorts were basically the only buyers during the crash. When it was banned there were only sellers left, which increased the volatility.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!

I do. And I'll be happy to take the other side of the trade.
sr. member
Activity: 488
Merit: 254
The first is by definition not flawed.
repeat after me:

how do we know they cover every coin they trade on their platform?
Papergold - fine
Paperbitcoin - better be a offline wallet!!!!
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Bitbuy
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!

Every short that opens has to be closed sooner or later. Repeat after me: For every BTC sold through shorting, a BTC will have to be bought to close the position. Shorting's net effect will be exactly zero. All this will do this stabilize the price, as shorting can temporarily suppress the price if it rises too fast in the eyes of the bears, which is a good thing.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!

That is fine, it will keep price more stable. You cannot short when trend is bullish because you lose money. But you can short when there is a bubble, you make money not allowing bubble to grow.
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1010
This rally is far from being over  Smiley

You do realize that leverage can be used to speculate against bitcoin too, right?

tl:dr; The shorts are coming!
newbie
Activity: 57
Merit: 0
Is this related to the hedge fund in Malta ?

http://bitcoinfund.eu/

It seems so...also, nice site.

quote from site "The funds shares are distributed exclusively through the EXANTE Hedge Fund Marketplace platform" 
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Is this related to the hedge fund in Malta ?

http://bitcoinfund.eu/
sr. member
Activity: 488
Merit: 254
The first is by definition not flawed.
I have to review my original thought :

it really depends how you trade it there.
if you can just buy and sell it seems like a CFD and guys will
just buy and sell for profit without adding any value to the community.

if you can withdraw it might make the bitcoin QUITE hard to come buy if
you know what i mean Cheesy

If you can do margin trading lot of people will be really fucked because
regardless of how expierenced them investors are - this bull here
has horns and this bear here as claws and teeth - and the traps here
are live action ammunition!


As usual - buy on rumors sell on news
and buy bitcoins - never sell
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
Downloading the Etoro android mobile app like a baws.  Cool
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
with news like this even 80$ dollar seems cheap

I might find myself in the most psychological demanding game:

riding a rally to its end

The rally will never end!  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 488
Merit: 254
The first is by definition not flawed.
with news like this even 80$ dollar seems cheap

I might find myself in the most psychological demanding game:

riding a rally to its end
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
HODL OR DIE
I was waiting for someone to put gox instantly into 2nd place. Short MtGox!!
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1002
Please, upvote: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5370222
Let's get that shit on the front page of HN  Grin

Hrmm, that link just takes me to a page that has the HN menu bar and nothin' else, but maybe I just don' know how to Internetz.

flagged, I guess
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Please, upvote: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5370222
Let's get that shit on the front page of HN  Grin

Hrmm, that link just takes me to a page that has the HN menu bar and nothin' else, but maybe I just don' know how to Internetz.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Now, this is bullish! Got it?  Cheesy

i c wut u did thar
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1002
March 13, 2013, 01:32:28 PM
#9
This is from Wikipedia:

"The company claims to manage investments worth tens of billions annually and reports an annual customer growth rate of 20%. In its public statements the company has reported that is has 1.5 million registered users and claims that it receives 2,000 new account openings every day."

But why hasn't etoro made any statements? I don't know how trustworthy news are when found on a blog..

Looks legit: http://cy.linkedin.com/pub/amos-meiri/45/29/230
member
Activity: 224
Merit: 10
March 13, 2013, 01:31:11 PM
#8
This is from Wikipedia:

"The company claims to manage investments worth tens of billions annually and reports an annual customer growth rate of 20%. In its public statements the company has reported that is has 1.5 million registered users and claims that it receives 2,000 new account openings every day."

But why hasn't etoro made any statements? I don't know how trustworthy news are when found on a blog..
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1002
March 13, 2013, 01:31:03 PM
#7
Now, this is bullish! Got it?  Cheesy
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
March 13, 2013, 01:29:29 PM
#6
Weird.  I've gone to their site from links in four different locations, and the site is different every time.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1001
March 13, 2013, 01:22:55 PM
#5
What kind of investment volume goes through etoro, does anyone know?
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
HODL OR DIE
March 13, 2013, 01:20:07 PM
#4
Man this is huge news.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
March 13, 2013, 01:19:28 PM
#3
None of the links under the 'More' button at the top of the home page work.  Anyone else have that problem?
member
Activity: 224
Merit: 10
March 13, 2013, 01:08:57 PM
#2
This is great news if it's true. Do you know when they will start dealing with BTC?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
March 13, 2013, 12:52:53 PM
#1
http://www.etoro.com/blog/markets/13032013/bitcoin-the-top-performing-currency-in-the-world/

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This is the future of money as we know it and the best news is that soon you will be able to trade it using your eToro account Smiley

For those who don't know etoro :

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The company claims to manage investments worth tens of billions annually and reports an annual customer growth rate of 20%. In its public statements the company has reported that is has 1.5 million registered users and claims that it receives 2,000 new account openings every day
(source edit : 2011 figures)

This rally is far from being over  Smiley
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