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Quote from: squatz1 on March 27, 2018, 12:28:07 PM

They only care when it hurts.

it's true that you said, because of the fact that they care about the price when it comes down.
rarely articles or blogs that continue to voice the goodness of Bitcoin.

and don't believe in things like that, be yourself friends.

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Quote from: Sadlife on May 30, 2018, 11:55:18 PM

No one really knows the truth if there is a group manipulating the price but with it's unusual movements in market lately it's pretty much suspicious why did the price suddenly fall then goes up. Let's look at the facts according to crypto news there is an 120 billion btc and altcoins that got stolen, google & facebook banning ICO ads, countries regulating crypto currencies. I guess this could be a more viable reason.

Connecting the dots to arrive at a theory on how the market has been reacting to certain scenario is a lot of serious work which I doubt someone would.want to invest his time to bring out information that could be disregarded as conspiracy theory so when reading articles like this, which tends to want to provide answers, it should be done with an open mind to want to identify some of the salient things and pick only the relevant ones.

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No one really knows the truth if there is a group manipulating the price but with it's unusual movements in market lately it's pretty much suspicious why did the price suddenly fall then goes up. Let's look at the facts according to crypto news there is an 120 billion btc and altcoins that got stolen, google & facebook banning ICO ads, countries regulating crypto currencies. I guess this could be a more viable reason.

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Another conspiracy theory, this is not unique in the crypto market this type of rumors have been told as well in all markets. The market is the one that is being change but the story is always the same.

This type of story has been told for decades now but until now no one can actually provide any evidence. Also with stocks manipulation we have seen who went to jail for that.

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You can find a 'pattern' in almost anything. Especially if you have such a desire to create conspiracies.

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Quote from: aervin11 on March 27, 2018, 09:43:55 AM

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A must read!!!

Do you also see unusual chart movements that bitcoin keeps breaking the supports but still getting it's volume?
I will share an article on how Bitcoin's price was suppressed by a group called "Cartel"
The author's topic is well supported and you could find all the answers on the links inserted.

Warning : Copyright Content

https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

Share your thoughts. Would really much appreciated.

Well it is true that there are conspirators in the market. They are very active and they have only one goal "to take your money". Why did you join the markets? To take someone else money?

That happens. People like mystery and cartels and invisible hands. Bedtime stories for market participants.

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Well, I guess it can be safely assumed that the so called whales have the power to manipulate Bitcoin's price, and if they make agreements this obviously would be a cartel. I cannot understand the surprize though.

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I've no idea about cartels, but what I do know is that professional money acts and places itself strategically in a way that very few people in crypto markets do.

They can plant a seed and be perfectly happy to wait for it to bloom. That's exactly what most people in cryptoland can't cope with. They're all so fucking twitchy and terrified that they ejaculate everything at the first breath of adversity.

There don't need to be cartels for 'them' to 'win'. All They have to be is more patient and look at the bigger picture.

And as ever with conspiracies people don't seem to want to acknowledge the most straightforward explanation which is the price is doing exactly what it did when it exploded the two previous times. It's a natural cycle and nothing will stop it.

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Quote from: Kingofbitcoin12345 on April 03, 2018, 12:59:07 AM

Suppressed means manipulated.. Does one group can change and control the market price?? I’m doubtful but they can if the majority of the investors are listening to them.. It can only be effective if we don’t make a move out it,, if we keep following and not taking the risk.. They are using our weaknesses against us,, our patience and emotions..

Soon if they can’t hold those two factors,, the pressure of market price increases will rocketed..

If we do really read up the article being posted it do really suggest that we should hold and would not sell our bitcoins cheap to the cartel.We dont know if this thing is really very possible into crypto market but as we have seen they do already do such thing into gold and silver market.Price suppresion is possible yet government wont really allow for crypto to overtake stocks and traditional assets which they do have already manipulated or controlled.Come to think off that there would be always powerful people in all sorts of things because they do have the money and power to do such thing.

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They only care when it hurts.
You're so right that it hurts. There are always two sides to the story. When people start losing money, they start pointing fingers, crying, blaming everyone and moaning. Real fast, real hard. That's just human nature for you.

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Suppressed means manipulated.. Does one group can change and control the market price?? I’m doubtful but they can if the majority of the investors are listening to them.. It can only be effective if we don’t make a move out it,, if we keep following and not taking the risk.. They are using our weaknesses against us,, our patience and emotions..

Soon if they can’t hold those two factors,, the pressure of market price increases will rocketed..

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I have read this article days ago, and this is like an article from a conspiracy theorist. I personally do not believe on this type of story/article it is just the same as people who spread FUD.

People always assume that when prices is pumped or dumped there is a manipulation going on but no one can provide a single evidence that it is true.

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Quote from: wuvdoll on April 01, 2018, 10:06:16 PM

World wide no market could be suppressed and bitcoin has proved that many times.

As this crypto community is new and the market is too volatile, the proofs given by the owner of the article is somehow reasonable and I am not spreading FUD, I just want to know the communities say to this kind of news. What did happen to gold? if bitcoin is the new gold then would this follow the track? I also bet the governments would not let bitcoin to be the currency better than fiat/dollar.

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Just another FUD. Do not give much attention to this. World wide no market could be suppressed and bitcoin has proved that many times. Bumpers and dumpers are everywhere and it is time for dumpers who may be an early bumper and probably he is booking profits now a days and that is the reason we are facing downfall of bitcoin prices (and the mtgox guy) and due to any initiative.

Hey OP, better remove that url from your post so that you may not misguide this community toward a fake news. Some people still want comparatively lower priced bitcoins that is the reason they are trying this kind of methods and we should be support them by making them popular.

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Quote from: evilsign on April 01, 2018, 08:47:05 AM

I've read this. But I still ask my self, what is the BTC cartel really exist? If yes, we should hold BTC and make the community of BTC stronger than before.
BTC is created for can't be centralized. But It needs the power of us to make it bigger and bigger community. We don't want BTC to be controlled by some people or organization, right? Include The Governments.

do you know how many whales out there? with hundreds addresses hold more than a thousand bitcoin then there's big possibilities, even fact, that some whales formed a cartel group.
it's fact bro, big peoples playing our money
(nah, now i wanna refuse it but seem hard)

Quote from: BingoDog on March 27, 2018, 09:56:56 AM

Don't believe in that, looks like one more conspiracy theory. When people don't know how to explain the price dumps such theories appear but they realy don't have any solid ground.
There is nothing unsual or suspicious behind this price fall so O don't think this story about so called cartel is true.

my thought above. and i can tell other "conspiration".
So i also want to tell last ATH was helped by manipulation.
you here for years and you know this is a market of speculation and manipulation

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 27, 2018, 12:28:07 PM

People only like talking about price manipulation when the price is being held at a certain price. Not when the price is going up massive amounts, that's the time that people don't care and they like to reap the rewards of price manipulation. It's crazy when you think about it, the selective calling out of issues -- but when it helps them people don't care.

That is because people is only happy when they are earning a lot of money.

It is sad, but it is the real truth, are you gonna tell me that you are happy when you are losing money? Of course not, everybody ignore it when they are earning thousands of dollars out of nothing.

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 27, 2018, 12:28:07 PM

People only like talking about price manipulation when the price is being held at a certain price. Not when the price is going up massive amounts, that's the time that people don't care and they like to reap the rewards of price manipulation. It's crazy when you think about it, the selective calling out of issues -- but when it helps them people don't care.

They only care when it hurts.

also they do it because during the drops manipulation is more obvious than other times. in bitcoin there is always harder to go down than up because of the buy support and whenever there is a dump there is also a lot of FUD and media attacks that is why it is most obvious during dumps.

for example ever since drop started, the media is talking nonstop about how bitcoin is being banned, is dropping, is dying, ... and all kinds of FUD about it. but when it was rising there was a big coverage then too but not as big and not as positive.

regarding the article shared here I have to say like before it is mostly conspiracy theories of the author and there are only traces of truth in it not all truth.

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Quote from: aervin11 on March 27, 2018, 09:43:55 AM

Credits to a Private Crypto Channel for sharing

A must read!!!

Do you also see unusual chart movements that bitcoin keeps breaking the supports but still getting it's volume?
I will share an article on how Bitcoin's price was suppressed by a group called "Cartel"
The author's topic is well supported and you could find all the answers on the links inserted.

Warning : Copyright Content

https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

Share your thoughts. Would really much appreciated.

I've read this. But I still ask my self, what is the BTC cartel really exist? If yes, we should hold BTC and make the community of BTC stronger than before.
BTC is created for can't be centralized. But It needs the power of us to make it bigger and bigger community. We don't want BTC to be controlled by some people or organization, right? Include The Governments.

aervin11

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Quote from: squatz1 on March 27, 2018, 12:28:07 PM

People only like talking about price manipulation when the price is being held at a certain price. Not when the price is going up massive amounts, that's the time that people don't care and they like to reap the rewards of price manipulation. It's crazy when you think about it, the selective calling out of issues -- but when it helps them people don't care.

They only care when it hurts.

Sadly you are right. When everybody is popping champagnes when bitcoin was at ATH, nobody cares. But when you are broke and can't find explanations about it, call someone to blame.

Quote from: audaciousbeing on March 27, 2018, 12:52:32 PM

The issue as at today is that rather than pondering about all of those conspiracies or truthfulness, and you can't do anything about it, its better to make the best use of it. To break this influence they purportedly have means a whole lot of money in which only few people can have access to and those people are being crippled with KYCs regulations which means we are back to where we started and the only way out is to make the best out of the current scenario.

Ride the tide my friend.

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Quote from: aervin11 on March 27, 2018, 09:43:55 AM

Credits to a Private Crypto Channel for sharing

A must read!!!

Do you also see unusual chart movements that bitcoin keeps breaking the supports but still getting it's volume?
I will share an article on how Bitcoin's price was suppressed by a group called "Cartel"
The author's topic is well supported and you could find all the answers on the links inserted.

Warning : Copyright Content

https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

Share your thoughts. Would really much appreciated.

Reading the article shows some words for thought sincerely because the author actually put some amount of efforts to come out with such expository article backed with verifiable evidence across historical lines but the issue here is not about whether what he is saying is true or not, its about what are we going to do about it? Absolutely nothing.

The issue as at today is that rather than pondering about all of those conspiracies or truthfulness, and you can't do anything about it, its better to make the best use of it. To break this influence they purportedly have means a whole lot of money in which only few people can have access to and those people are being crippled with KYCs regulations which means we are back to where we started and the only way out is to make the best out of the current scenario.

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People only like talking about price manipulation when the price is being held at a certain price. Not when the price is going up massive amounts, that's the time that people don't care and they like to reap the rewards of price manipulation. It's crazy when you think about it, the selective calling out of issues -- but when it helps them people don't care.

They only care when it hurts.

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Quote from: BingoDog on March 27, 2018, 09:56:56 AM

Don't believe in that, looks like one more conspiracy theory. When people don't know how to explain the price dumps such theories appear but they realy don't have any solid ground.
There is nothing unsual or suspicious behind this price fall so O don't think this story about so called cartel is true.

But I see the dates and the news always coincide, and the support line that always break. Also saw this suspicious activities, why bitcoin can't defeat the bears even with the volume, and the TA that shows bulls but break.

What's your thoughts about the agenda of the author?

BingoDog

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Don't believe in that, looks like one more conspiracy theory. When people don't know how to explain the price dumps such theories appear but they realy don't have any solid ground.
There is nothing unsual or suspicious behind this price fall so O don't think this story about so called cartel is true.

aervin11

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Credits to a Private Crypto Channel for sharing

A must read!!!

Do you also see unusual chart movements that bitcoin keeps breaking the supports but still getting it's volume?
I will share an article on how Bitcoin's price was suppressed by a group called "Cartel"
The author's topic is well supported and you could find all the answers on the links inserted.

Warning : Copyright Content

https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

Share your thoughts. Would really much appreciated.

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