Topic: Bitcoin Clawback could be possible with AI GPT? (Read 188 times)

AI in general can be trained to do almost anything with the right data and tools, so in theory this could be possible but I do not think this is going to happen soon, and as such your only hope is that the police of your country is able to get your money back for you, however as you have noticed already this has very low success chances as well, as the amount of scams on this market is high and the difficulty on finding the culprits is many times higher than your average robbery.

Thanks on your thoughts nelson4lov.
And to go along with your conclusion;
"Interesting times might be ahead of us", from where i would add as it happens next;
"Almost no one could expect such an impact of brainstorming changes, where status 'nothing' worth a lot, vs 'everything' that seems worthless." The power works two ways...Any good samaritan would be gratefull for donation, but in nowdays, 98% of predators are from phishing or later scams based,; any writings to get people lured, so i do not wish any of that. Just the financial relieve from the authorities...

It can't do that, not the current version of GPT at least. The farthest right now is that they can connect to your computer maybe via a containerized environment where they can execute. I think they can push the boundaries but would most likely be limited to on-chain trail only. Nothing more.

But that's by the way.


Sorry about your loss. I do hope that you recover and grow even bigger in the future. Right now, running on-chain analysis with AI will cost a lot in computing units. Even those the AI won't do on-chain computations because of tx fee / gas but it's cheaper to just read on chain data. Even at that, it would still be expensive right now to have such a service. Probably in the future since most research right now are geared to making the interaction between AI and blockchain as seamless as possible. Interesting times might be ahead of us.

I don’t know much about AI tools but If AI GPT can work in that format, it would have tempered with many rules guiding the blockchain technology which is suppose to be secured and private.


If an AI can do all this that you’ve mentioned then it can’t be trusted. That’s like intriguing into someone’s privacy. Could this be an AI programmed by the person himself to do all that for them? Because if it goes beyond that, it should be considered an illegal tool to use since it’ll breach privacy.

Fair comments, thanks for the support.
So there is a hope left, since BTC TXs, done parmanently and locked written... wont go anywhere in the future, as long www exsists; until someone powerfull enough in case to save stolen funds, to shut down web.
But...
It is not about reversing the TXs, since fractions of that stolen BTC ended to all kinds of ends on blockchain, including honest and kyc known people.
It is an idea, that the modified version of AI GPT, as an aid for entiteled investigation on stolen cryptos, based on several data layer input (cut size, ratios, timing, etc..), could much faster analyze, idenify, and with high probability link archive TX activity, to  scammers "in progress"  TXs activities, based on a patterns of previous ones. If they are stil on line, doing same or similar activities with TXs to compare with....
The cipher trace is 100% accurate, the pattern of TXs also for AI GPT, in addition also (any additional key search layer, based from investigation case) to pump from, from  which i believe AI GPT could recognize patterns and connect nowdays scammers active TXs and wallets to an archive ones.  
Justice and courts could than be within time and efficiency much faster, easier and promising with the outcome for all sides involved. Scammers caught, victims payed out.
Probably in next years, or perhaps not. I wish the first happens. Well in that time to come, i wish i could've had kept at that time just the third of the coin. To slowly trade with, and to regain my losses..or to come through the month. I believe that sincerety and honesty do exist in this universe, as beeing exposed for all the individuals, and in this short time here, all gets payed in theirs own name, one way or another, after good or after mean, as chosen. Consciousness vs unconsciousness. Material vs nonmaterial world. No one can escape.

GPT, or any AI for that matter, does not inherently possess the ability to track, find, and retrieve transactions in the way a human might. These tools are designed to process and generate text, not perform cyber forensic investigations on Bitcoin transactions. Of course, Bitcoin, in its magnificent and mysterious glory, has its own beautiful aspects of being transparent and anonymous at the same time.

Yet, there might be specialized AI tools that could theoretically track these transactions, considering Bitcoin's public ledger system. These would need to be custom-built, utilizing algorithms to map connections. But even then, the possibility of clawing back funds remains a question in the wind. It's like chasing shadows in a dark room...

Artificial intelligence generally reenacts what humans can normally do and adds more precision to it, basically learning from what is already available. There is no current way one can remotely reverse a bitcoin transaction from a non custodian address even if the bitcoins were stolen.
This should also never be possible with a decentralized currency like Bitcoin, but there are so much the government can do with CBDCs.

Do you mind sharing what Network and wallet is capable of doing this?

I find ChatGPT useful for some purposes, but analysing transactions is probably not one of them. It can read and summarize texts, it can brainstorm ideas on various topics, and it can help to find fitting interpretations. But it also loves hallucinating information to fill in the gaps. Some people also use it for coding, especially if they only have basic skills. In that case, ChatGPT can help write code, although it will make mistakes and will often not be able to reach the working solution alone. Perhaps it could help you write a transaction analysis program if you set your requirements specifically. Or, if you have resources, you could try to train a model for a specific task, as ImThour has mentioned.

I think you meant ChatGPT? It can't do shit. If you are talking about Artificial Intelligence or Machine Learning in general, surely you can get anything done by it.

GPT is a model trained to give your answers. You can train your own model to get anything you want from it. Like in your case, finding who is the real person associated with this account. For that, you will have to provide a lot of examples and data to train the model. And in the end, you need test data to check the accuracy percentage of your model.

Without obtaining data from third parties such as some block explorers that may sell user data, some servers managed by data analysis services, US honeypot and other methods that are used to collect data, artificial intelligence cannot provide solutions to problems.
After collecting all this data, the AI can do something useful.

If your belief is correct, then AI GPT can identify Satoshi? If he did this, this alone would be considered a great promotional opportunity for those who will perform this service.

You are right that AI GPT was not created for tracing a transaction but there is an AI that's capable of making a transaction by just ordering it to do so, it can tell you your balance and also make some transactions for you, it can also hunt for airdrops for you.

Shocking? I like the part where you said AI aren't designed for this and one actually does this better, I can't remember the name of the AI but I remember the project that this AI belongs to, the name is Delysium with ticket AGI, you can use coinmarketcap to go to the website and try the AI out, it's crazily capable.

Whenever an innovation makes it way out in the world there will always be a better one coming up sooner or later, AI technology is astonishing.

AI can analyse dta faster than a human brain. but it depends on what other information it has access to to then link it to a human or business that has access to the keys to move the funds. also AI cant demand a scammer return funds. thats for courts to do

AI wont brute force keys to return funds. because although they have algos to understand data better then humans. they dont have the power to brute the number of possible keys to get the private key to sign funds back to a previous spender

No, that is stealing and it is about as illegal as someone stealing from you.

Firstly, Generative Pre-trained Transformers are designed to analyze text data to come up with a model that provides the user with conversational responses. It is completely different from what we're doing with Machine Learning on datasets and it serves no benefits to us. LLM is different from other deep learning models, think of it as a subset. If we were to analyze links between addresses, we would be more interested in using an unsupervised learning algorithm.

Anyhow, none of them are accurate to a 100%, that is practically impossible. Our ML models can never train to an accuracy of a 100%, you'll have a pre-defined loss function that only tries to minimize it but it'll never be zero. Hence, you'll be stealing from someone else if that is the case.

Well, who knows, in the near future, AI GPT could significantly aid crime investigations such as your case. However, I guess it will largely depend on whether there are available traces or links. If there is none, as there are practices as well as technologies focused on wiping out traces, then there's nothing to be found.

Either way, the responsibility to keep our Bitcoin safe falls entirely on us as we fully own and control them. When lost, investigators and other law enforcers can only do so much.

The AI GPT wasn't designed for tracing a transaction or someone's Bitcoin and it can't also able to reverse or get the Bitcoin back to your wallet. For AI GPT it is an illegal activity.
I tried it on ChatGPT but it said they can't do that I don't know if GPT4 could do that.

Only law enforcement or cyber authority can able to help you with your problem they have a tool to trace them but if they already mixed the coins it would be hard for local law or cyber authority to find this scammer.

I don't know to which limit the AIs can go, but what I think is that they can only be able to trace funds that have been deposited at the hackers address and move them to another address if the scammers were stupid enough to leave some trace. If any trace is being left by the scammer, then there will be no need for the AI to identify and link to an address, as by just going through those transactions, you will be able to trace where it was sent to and where it was also coming from.

But if the coins sent out have already been mixed using some mixing service, which I believe the scammer will definitely have means of laundering their funds even without using any popular mixing service, at this point it will only be by the grace of the scammer's mistake that they can be linked to any form of hack, unless they mix the coin and also withdraw the same amount to a different address, which can be suspicious and can easily draw the attention of others for further investigation.

Sincere. Just wondering. Could AI GPT be able to find (associated under scammers previously TX based BTC transactions); for clawback from their "new" "after AI calculated 100% positive connection of two entities", that the last, with balanced accounts as of result; back - clawback funds to victims account? My 5,5 BTC worth, 6 TX transactions stolen were reported to Europol, ActionFraud, MyChargeBack, very well documented and being justified as a case 4 years ago. Nothing happened yet; nothing seems to change anymore. Just hopefully to cover my debts someday; and do I not know how I survived till now...The world now this years; the reason perhaps...Just to small things still matter in furthure; I wish as the universe works; both ways...