Topic: Bitcoin currency could be crashed by colluded attack, researchers claim (Read 1074 times)

i think so

You do not understand what this article is saying.

It's not that stupid.

What would happen if there was a big private blockchain "secretly" double spending?

Say it currently had 48% and was a few blocks behind the original blockchain -- and everybody knows it.

What's to stop you mining on the short chain but spending on the long chain?

Now let's make a Big Assumption: people bandwagon on this new chain if it's at 48% in order to selfishly double spend when it finally takes over the old chain.

If that is the case, then surely it is rational for me to do the same thing but when it's at 47%
and if that is the case, then surely it is rational for me to do the same thing but when it's at 46%
...
etc

They're stating that the initial threshold is actually very low. They're stating that rational malicious entities mine on the short chain even if the short chain has, say, 5% of the computational power.

I don't know how they take multiple private chains into the analysis or what constant they're using for that Big Assumption.

It does sound a bit dodgy to me; I don't think there's reason to believe this will happen any time soon. But the paper isn't completely without thought..

The Sky is falling

Very well explained greenlion

Thanks

The paper is not about the 51% attack, it's actually far dumber.

The paper is basically saying that a large pool of miners would solve a block then start pre-mining the next block prior to submitting proof of work of the block they had just created.

Hahahaha

We've literally known about this since Bitcoin was created.

That is like almost impossible right?

Oh no! So it would be a kind of "51% attack" where a majority cartel could sort-of "double-spend" their coins?! Why did nobody ever think of this? Bitcoin is doomed! rofl

http://rt.com/usa/cornell-bitcoin-study-attack-332/

Cornell University researchers say they’ve discovered a theoretical attack on the Bitcoin network that has the potential of ravaging the entire digital cryptocurrency community if executed properly.

Professors Ittay Eyal and Emin Gun Sirer of the Ivy League institution published a study this week in which they suggest malicious actors could be selfishly “mining” Bitcoin for more than they should rightfully receive, in turn setting the stage for significant consequences to unfold with regards to all cryptocurrencies currently thought to be incentive-compatible.

To generate Bitcoins, so-called miners pool together high-powered computers and in turn force those machines to solve complicated cryptographic puzzles. Prof. Surer claims “Bitcoin is broken” in the new study, however, because dishonest minors could be keeping their puzzle-solving escapades secret, in turn significantly undermining the entire system on which Bitcoin and other similar currencies are based.

The researchers recall in their abstract that “Bitcoin records its transactions in a public log called the blockchain” and acknowledge “Its security rests critically on the distributed protocol that maintains the blockchain, run by participants called miners.”

“Conventional wisdom asserts that the protocol is incentive-compatible and secure against colluding minority groups, i.e., it incentivizes miners to follow the protocol as prescribed,” the professors continue. On the contrary, however, their research suggests a type of attack exists where colluding miners obtain revenue larger than their fair share.

“This attack can have significant consequences for Bitcoin: Rational miners will prefer to join the selfish miners, and the colluding group will increase in size until it becomes a majority,” they wrote. “At this point, the Bitcoin system ceases to be a decentralized currency.”

In a blog post detailing their discovery published on Monday, the researchers claim, “We're the first to discover that the Bitcoin protocol is not incentive-compatible.” Indeed, Eyal and Sirer insist that the entire Bitcoin protocol can be “gamed” by people with selfish interests and warn that, “once the system veers away from the happy mode where everyone is honest, there is no force that opposes the growth of really large pools that command control of the currency.”

Bitcoin Magazine technical editor Vitalik Buterin told BBC News that the method of attack mapped out by the Cornell researchers is “highly theoretical” because he doesn’t believe the software exists in order to provide miners with information about what others in the community have accomplished, and insisted “No honest (or semi-honest) miner would want to join a selfish pool.”

“Even if they do have a small incentive to [join], they have an even greater incentive to not break the Bitcoin network to preserve the value of their own Bitcoins and mining hardware,” Buterin added.

Should they make that jump, however, the researchers say selfish miners will be able to earn more revenue than honest participants, opening up the possibility of the whole currency to be eventually subverted if the software mentioned by Buterin is eventually developed and miners opt to egregiously attempt to generate extra Bitcoin at the cost of the entire currency.

http://rt.com/usa/cornell-bitcoin-study-attack-332/