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November 26, 2017, 12:32:37 PM
#33
You can try https://wagecan.com/, they are very expensive but it seems they are only alternative that can work worldwide. Also depositing money in that card is not instant, just use localbitcoins like peer to peer trading platform if you really need to cashout your bitcoin.
hero member
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November 26, 2017, 10:17:21 AM
#32
I'm currently using shakepay.co
They accept my registration even though I'm not from EU, so I guess it is safe to say they're accepting members outside EU.
As usual, non verified member has their own limits with verified member got their limit lifted.
Oh, and your first virtual card is free.

Do mind that Shakepay itself is in Beta, so use with caution Smiley

Hi, I found this in their site:

http://blog.shakepay.co/2017/updated-list-of-countries/

But thanks for the tip Smiley
I'm pretty sure they didn't check your address when creating Shakepay account, you can set your country to EU Countries such as UK and fill in the address with a fake one, that should work.
Unless you want to verify your account at later date to receive higher limit, otherwise you will be fine.

Other provider who accepts members from outside EU is Spectro, although verifying your account is a must once you have registered.
newbie
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November 26, 2017, 10:04:48 AM
#31
I'm currently using shakepay.co
They accept my registration even though I'm not from EU, so I guess it is safe to say they're accepting members outside EU.
As usual, non verified member has their own limits with verified member got their limit lifted.
Oh, and your first virtual card is free.

Do mind that Shakepay itself is in Beta, so use with caution Smiley

Hi, I found this in their site:

http://blog.shakepay.co/2017/updated-list-of-countries/

But thanks for the tip Smiley

I do not think that shakepay is not that much fame in the bitcoin card provider. You can check in the bitpay, cryptopay, spectrum and xapo are the best options to purchase the bitcoin debit cards and these assumes legit options to have a cards.

Please check the link below with the list contains the various bitcoin debit card options.
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@bitcoinshirtz/a-full-list-of-bitcoin-debit-cards-for-2017

Already tried most of them, but there are a few to test yet, thanks a lot for the helpful link.
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November 26, 2017, 09:29:43 AM
#30
I'm currently using shakepay.co
They accept my registration even though I'm not from EU, so I guess it is safe to say they're accepting members outside EU.
As usual, non verified member has their own limits with verified member got their limit lifted.
Oh, and your first virtual card is free.

Do mind that Shakepay itself is in Beta, so use with caution Smiley

Hi, I found this in their site:

http://blog.shakepay.co/2017/updated-list-of-countries/

But thanks for the tip Smiley

I do not think that shakepay is not that much fame in the bitcoin card provider. You can check in the bitpay, cryptopay, spectrum and xapo are the best options to purchase the bitcoin debit cards and these assumes legit options to have a cards.

Please check the link below with the list contains the various bitcoin debit card options.
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@bitcoinshirtz/a-full-list-of-bitcoin-debit-cards-for-2017
newbie
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November 26, 2017, 08:19:20 AM
#29
I'm currently using shakepay.co
They accept my registration even though I'm not from EU, so I guess it is safe to say they're accepting members outside EU.
As usual, non verified member has their own limits with verified member got their limit lifted.
Oh, and your first virtual card is free.

Do mind that Shakepay itself is in Beta, so use with caution Smiley

Hi, I found this in their site:

http://blog.shakepay.co/2017/updated-list-of-countries/

But thanks for the tip Smiley
newbie
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November 26, 2017, 08:10:01 AM
#28
Hi,


Recently, VISA and Mastercard blocked transactions for bitcoin debit cards outside EU, and I really need to find a card that supports it outside Europe.

I've heard about Bitplastic, but it seems to be offline right now.

Any options/suggestions would be much appreciated.



Wirex has some new card where it can be used outside of the EU. However you do need to confirm your identity before you can actually use their services. If you are willing to do this, then there is really endless options.

I'm fairly sure that cryptopay and xapo has working cards right now as well.

It's really up to you to do the research and pick the one that is the best for yourself, though.

Most of these providers have cards which work outside of EU, actually they work wherever VISA is accepted. The problem is that you cannot get verified unless you re in EU. Somebody correct me if I wrong, I m in EU so have not had this issue.

My example: I have an Advanced Cash with non european address and they checked my address and will block my card card by the end on this month.
newbie
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November 26, 2017, 07:54:08 AM
#27
sadly both Mastercard and Visa have this restriction in place
tried to look for options myself,looks like the "competition" between them too
is just a ruse to avoid monopoly charges,in reality its one and same institution
once one of them does something,aka banning non EU residents from using cards,
the other one does same a few days later


Yes, exactly, and sadly, the problem impacts into their customers.
hero member
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November 26, 2017, 04:11:46 AM
#26
I'm currently using shakepay.co
They accept my registration even though I'm not from EU, so I guess it is safe to say they're accepting members outside EU.
As usual, non verified member has their own limits with verified member got their limit lifted.
Oh, and your first virtual card is free.

Do mind that Shakepay itself is in Beta, so use with caution Smiley
legendary
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November 26, 2017, 03:59:31 AM
#25
Hi,


Recently, VISA and Mastercard blocked transactions for bitcoin debit cards outside EU, and I really need to find a card that supports it outside Europe.

I've heard about Bitplastic, but it seems to be offline right now.

Any options/suggestions would be much appreciated.



Wirex has some new card where it can be used outside of the EU. However you do need to confirm your identity before you can actually use their services. If you are willing to do this, then there is really endless options.

I'm fairly sure that cryptopay and xapo has working cards right now as well.

It's really up to you to do the research and pick the one that is the best for yourself, though.

Most of these providers have cards which work outside of EU, actually they work wherever VISA is accepted. The problem is that you cannot get verified unless you re in EU. Somebody correct me if I wrong, I m in EU so have not had this issue.
legendary
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November 25, 2017, 03:58:41 PM
#24
sadly both Mastercard and Visa have this restriction in place
tried to look for options myself,looks like the "competition" between them too
is just a ruse to avoid monopoly charges,in reality its one and same institution
once one of them does something,aka banning non EU residents from using cards,
the other one does same a few days later
newbie
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November 23, 2017, 05:52:36 PM
#23
Hi,


Recently, VISA and Mastercard blocked transactions for bitcoin debit cards outside EU, and I really need to find a card that supports it outside Europe.

I've heard about Bitplastic, but it seems to be offline right now.

Any options/suggestions would be much appreciated.



Wirex has some new card where it can be used outside of the EU. However you do need to confirm your identity before you can actually use their services. If you are willing to do this, then there is really endless options.

I'm fairly sure that cryptopay and xapo has working cards right now as well.

It's really up to you to do the research and pick the one that is the best for yourself, though.


Wirex, Xapo and Cryptopay stopped working outside EU, I have their confirmation by e-mail, that's why I did this post, after reading and searching for the matter. Currently only Uquid has confirmed that they are still working outside EU, still waiting WageCan response and looking for another options.

Update: WageCan not working for non EU residents anymore (for Universe Card, not Golden):

https://blog.wagecan.com/2017/08/25/important-information-about-wagecan-universe-card/
newbie
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November 23, 2017, 05:35:01 PM
#22
Hi,


Recently, VISA and Mastercard blocked transactions for bitcoin debit cards outside EU, and I really need to find a card that supports it outside Europe.

I've heard about Bitplastic, but it seems to be offline right now.

Any options/suggestions would be much appreciated.



Wirex has some new card where it can be used outside of the EU. However you do need to confirm your identity before you can actually use their services. If you are willing to do this, then there is really endless options.

I'm fairly sure that cryptopay and xapo has working cards right now as well.

It's really up to you to do the research and pick the one that is the best for yourself, though.


Wirex, Xapo and Cryptopay stopped working outside EU, I have their confirmation by e-mail, that's why I did this post, after reading and searching for the matter. Currently only Uquid has confirmed that they are still working outside EU, still waiting WageCan response and looking for another options.
hero member
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November 23, 2017, 03:04:59 AM
#21
Hi,


Recently, VISA and Mastercard blocked transactions for bitcoin debit cards outside EU, and I really need to find a card that supports it outside Europe.

I've heard about Bitplastic, but it seems to be offline right now.

Any options/suggestions would be much appreciated.



Wirex has some new card where it can be used outside of the EU. However you do need to confirm your identity before you can actually use their services. If you are willing to do this, then there is really endless options.

I'm fairly sure that cryptopay and xapo has working cards right now as well.

It's really up to you to do the research and pick the one that is the best for yourself, though.
legendary
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November 23, 2017, 02:01:29 AM
#20
I think that the reason for the new rules is personal data protection. This is very strict in EU and the new directive is to be implemented soon so this is probably some precausion measure. But I thinK that Visa nad Msste will suffer loses not to be present with bitcoin debit cards outside EU because more and more users are intresetd in it and to my opinon this is the future, this is very convenient wa to spend bitcoins everywhere. Maybe also bitcoin credit cards will appear some day.

VISA launched their Blockchain business some days ago, this explains a lot  Undecided

https://www.coindesk.com/visa-launches-first-phase-of-blockchain-b2b-payments-system/


I do not think it does. The blockchain technology-- the general business communications term, not in the Bitcoin-specific context-- has been around since before Bitcoin itself. Businesses use blockchain information handling all the time, especially when it comes to logistics and reconciliation of data between different business entities. This general use is what Visa is getting more businesses to adopt on top of their platform. This allows businesses to trade with each other on top of their platform but without having to connect with them. Imagine, as a parallel, Bitcoin transactions being verified offline without being actually put on the chain yet. This does not really conflict with Bitcoin; the main reason really is the lack of customer/personal data held by the issuers of these cards, since they do not attempt to verify any of the information provided by the customers for the lower tier limits that the accounts begin with by default.
newbie
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November 20, 2017, 02:17:58 PM
#19
I think that the reason for the new rules is personal data protection. This is very strict in EU and the new directive is to be implemented soon so this is probably some precausion measure. But I thinK that Visa nad Msste will suffer loses not to be present with bitcoin debit cards outside EU because more and more users are intresetd in it and to my opinon this is the future, this is very convenient wa to spend bitcoins everywhere. Maybe also bitcoin credit cards will appear some day.

VISA launched their Blockchain business some days ago, this explains a lot  Undecided

https://www.coindesk.com/visa-launches-first-phase-of-blockchain-b2b-payments-system/
hero member
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November 20, 2017, 10:03:01 AM
#18
I think that the reason for the new rules is personal data protection. This is very strict in EU and the new directive is to be implemented soon so this is probably some precausion measure. But I thinK that Visa nad Msste will suffer loses not to be present with bitcoin debit cards outside EU because more and more users are intresetd in it and to my opinon this is the future, this is very convenient wa to spend bitcoins everywhere. Maybe also bitcoin credit cards will appear some day.
sr. member
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November 20, 2017, 05:20:29 AM
#17
Hi,


Recently, VISA and Mastercard blocked transactions for bitcoin debit cards outside EU, and I really need to find a card that supports it outside Europe.

I've heard about Bitplastic, but it seems to be offline right now.

Any options/suggestions would be much appreciated.



I do not think there s anything operational ATM. Tenx did announce they have an alternative provider which should start delivering cards outside of Europe but even that I do not think it ll take place before next year. So all in all, you ve gotta find someone with EU papers to verify your card or use Local bitcoins option. Banks, I guess that is not something which is convenient for most of us.
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November 20, 2017, 05:12:23 AM
#16
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Ico.blockchainoid.com business and whitelabel  all countries ,No usa and afganistan  Untested

This website looks like a scam. The webdesign is completely unprofessional and looks like someone invested
at the very most a few minutes of work. If you take into account that even the ICOs that are not outright
scams take years to deliver a working product, it is even more recommended to stay away from this provider.

I´m not sure if that has changed in the meantime, but even the hugely hyped Monaco and TenX ICOs
haven´t delivered on their huge promises so far (at least that was the situation a few weeks ago). If even
these much more professional ICOs have not delivered working Bitcoin debit cards so far, what makes you think
this hugely unprofessional Blockchainoid ICO will be able to do it?

I´m not even taking the recent changes to the VISA terms into account, which make it significantly harder for Bitcoin
debit card providers to offer cards to non EU-residents.
newbie
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November 19, 2017, 11:21:37 PM
#15
yeah this new rule sucks: https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-debit-cards-non-european-residents-visas-new-rules/
as for the list of bitcoin debit cards
I think this topic might be of interest to you: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2017-bitcoin-debit-card-reviews-1410577
he doesn't list all of the cards here,but his review is very helpful
also this: https://darknetmarkets.co/category/bitcoin-debit-cards/
the thing is you will have to check every provider if they service non-eu residents yourself,just ask their support
also if the card supports mastercard,there is a high chance they do service non-eu residents

Uaw! Excelent response. I'll try some options of the lists. Just for you to kwnow, I have a 2 dollars balance with AdvCash, they will block non EU cards in the next month but they refuse to return low value money to their customers because the cheapest transfer taxes are above 3 dollars, so this is misappropiation and it is a strong fault with their customers, what they gonna do with all of those residual money? I can't endorse these company anymore.
newbie
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November 19, 2017, 10:49:59 PM
#14
The future of credit/debit cards of cryptos will come from the cryptos itself. We can't expect VISA and MASTERCARD to fully support bitcoin and other cryptocoins. I am willing to use some card as a payment method to use my bitcoins in all over the world without this bureaucracy called "fees and prohibitions".

I filosoficaly agree but I'd like to have another security layer to withdraw my coins in case of emergency.



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November 19, 2017, 02:20:42 PM
#13
Use Coinpayments.net instead, you could directly convert your cryptocurrencies, debit cards were using payment processors, you think debit cards for crypto were using Bitcoin directly? all of them converted your Bitcoins by using payment processors.
If you ask them for a reason, they'd tell you that any body living outside of EU is a terrorist. full stop lol.
I have checked this coinpayments.net website, but it doesn't provide physical debit card (or I have missed something). The idea is OK what they want, but this doesn't help me if I want to go to the local grocery shop where they accept cash and credit/debit card and nothing else, so this can be a solution in the future but not now. I know that physical bitcoin linked debit card providers uses huge fees (or bad exchange rate), but I can use the card as a normal credit/debit card, even the cashier at the shop won't notice that my card is bitcoin linked or not.
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November 18, 2017, 09:04:28 PM
#12
Use Coinpayments.net instead, you could directly convert your cryptocurrencies, debit cards were using payment processors, you think debit cards for crypto were using Bitcoin directly? all of them converted your Bitcoins by using payment processors.
If you ask them for a reason, they'd tell you that any body living outside of EU is a terrorist. full stop lol.
legendary
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November 18, 2017, 08:41:34 PM
#11
Hi,


Recently, VISA and Mastercard blocked transactions for bitcoin debit cards outside EU, and I really need to find a card that supports it outside Europe.

I've heard about Bitplastic, but it seems to be offline right now.

Any options/suggestions would be much appreciated.



Man I thought you were saying Bitpay and such companies were prohibited from the EU and I was going to say this is terrible news. Still terrible is this news, just not as bad. There are still ways to get Bitcoin in Europe for sure that the governments will not be able to stop.
legendary
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November 18, 2017, 08:26:51 PM
#10
yeah this new rule sucks: https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-debit-cards-non-european-residents-visas-new-rules/
as for the list of bitcoin debit cards
I think this topic might be of interest to you: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2017-bitcoin-debit-card-reviews-1410577
he doesn't list all of the cards here,but his review is very helpful
also this: https://darknetmarkets.co/category/bitcoin-debit-cards/
the thing is you will have to check every provider if they service non-eu residents yourself,just ask their support
also if the card supports mastercard,there is a high chance they do service non-eu residents
newbie
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November 18, 2017, 06:39:37 PM
#9
If you want to have a good customer service then better to start using the wirex debit card, it is a good one, maybe you will have some issues at the moment that you decide to load your card, but in the end, it is always going to be solved because the support is always on this forum and they have an active ann thread (so they will always be checking the bitcointalk users ticket's as a priority)
Bitwala is a good card too, but it will take more than 20 days to be shipped to your door if you are outside Europe, and it is difficult to get it if you dont buy a premium shipping.


Both of them were prohibited outside EU Countries, unfortunately. But thank you for your response  Wink
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November 18, 2017, 06:16:41 PM
#8
The future of credit/debit cards of cryptos will come from the cryptos itself. We can't expect VISA and MASTERCARD to fully support bitcoin and other cryptocoins. I am willing to use some card as a payment method to use my bitcoins in all over the world without this bureaucracy called "fees and prohibitions".

This is very bad because there were lots of projects working on crypto debit cards.

Yes but basically it is not in mastercard and visa's vested interest to allow crypto payment to thrive. Very easy to understand.
But it's OK - after all, right now people treat btc as a store of value and an access to the blockchain world.
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November 18, 2017, 05:46:27 PM
#7
The future of credit/debit cards of cryptos will come from the cryptos itself. We can't expect VISA and MASTERCARD to fully support bitcoin and other cryptocoins. I am willing to use some card as a payment method to use my bitcoins in all over the world without this bureaucracy called "fees and prohibitions".

This is very bad because there were lots of projects working on crypto debit cards. We can count Monaco Card, TenX, Token Card, METAL pay and a lot more of them. They're million dollar valued companies now.
legendary
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November 18, 2017, 05:43:24 PM
#6
I can't say I've tried this or that I'm endorsing this. To give people yet another option: converting to usd/paypal & using paypals debit card could be cheaper and more affordable than either crypto debit cards or bitcoin atm's. Both of which seem to utilize massive price mark ups as standard fare.

Services which convert crypto to physical gift cards may be yet another method.
sr. member
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November 18, 2017, 05:34:21 PM
#5
The future of credit/debit cards of cryptos will come from the cryptos itself. We can't expect VISA and MASTERCARD to fully support bitcoin and other cryptocoins. I am willing to use some card as a payment method to use my bitcoins in all over the world without this bureaucracy called "fees and prohibitions".
hero member
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November 18, 2017, 05:21:22 PM
#4
If you want to have a good customer service then better to start using the wirex debit card, it is a good one, maybe you will have some issues at the moment that you decide to load your card, but in the end, it is always going to be solved because the support is always on this forum and they have an active ann thread (so they will always be checking the bitcointalk users ticket's as a priority)
Bitwala is a good card too, but it will take more than 20 days to be shipped to your door if you are outside Europe, and it is difficult to get it if you dont buy a premium shipping.
newbie
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November 18, 2017, 05:13:59 PM
#3
Cryptopay.me,  Personal  worldwide good
wagecan.com, Personal  worldwide  Very good
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Thanks, valuable info.
I'm trying to contact Wagecan right now and figure it out if they were prohibited, too.
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November 18, 2017, 04:05:26 PM
#2
Cryptopay.me,  Personal  worldwide good
wagecan.com, Personal  worldwide  Very good
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newbie
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November 18, 2017, 03:56:24 PM
#1
Hi,


Recently, VISA and Mastercard blocked transactions for bitcoin debit cards outside EU, and I really need to find a card that supports it outside Europe.

I've heard about Bitplastic, but it seems to be offline right now.

Any options/suggestions would be much appreciated.

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