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Why do people focus on drops and not the increases, bitcoin has moved from $7k at the start of the year to above $12k and now still above $11k as you can see, why do you still check what it drop to instead of checking what it went up to?

In any case we are at a situation where I believe in the next 4 months all crypto will increase a ton, it is not a small chance neither, it is a big chance because there are so many indicators and so many historical proof that shows that crypto is in an increasing cycle these days, hopefully it will finally break over $20k once again, we have been waiting for it for 3 years and I believe it is high time that bitcoin finally goes up above $20k and when that happens all other altcoins will try to go to their own ATH as well making everyone involved a lot of profit.
Well, drops are as important as increases, bitcoin could go down, ethereum could go down, this year both of them did went down, last year they were both up and down at the same time as well, you have to realize that crypto is something that goes up and down, that is how it survive, there is no scenario where crypto goes just one direction, it has to go both ways in order to sustain its movements.

If it goes up all the time that means nobody is taking out profit and that is not possible, people have to take up some profit time to time, that is how trading is done, and if it continues to go down forever, it will be worthless one day, and that is not possible, I rather collect every single bitcoin myself with all the money I have before I let bitcoin be worthless one day.
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Can't say surely about bitcoin cause it's quite difficult to predict the right price of it. But haven't found any possible reason that could makes bitcoin down. Even at this moment price is fine for now. Besides i know that ETH 2.0 realease would be delayed but effect could be shown. So i guess eth would pump from $400 to $500-550 even more, at the end of this year
This is just a prediction so don’t expect it to happen because there’s no such an accurate price prediction. If there’s a pump then there’s a correction after that and this is more accurate than any prediction. Bitcoin can still go up we just need to stay above $12k and we will end the year 2020 on good prices including the altcoins market.

Prediction is not always correct. Because since prediction is easy to give, anyone can give their own opinion. But some experts prediction give you confident. It remains to be seen how realistic that prediction is. However, Bitcoin is in a good position now. Along with Bitcoin, the rest of the altcoins are also trying to hold their own. Yeah, if Bitcoin could end the year above $12k then that would be a very good signal.
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Why do people focus on drops and not the increases, bitcoin has moved from $7k at the start of the year to above $12k and now still above $11k as you can see, why do you still check what it drop to instead of checking what it went up to?
7000 at the start of the year but remember mate we fell down more last March when the Pandemic or Covid 19 enters the whole world and starts the panicking.

so that means Bitcoin climbs up from $4000 level to more than $12,000 and this is something they need to see.

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In any case we are at a situation where I believe in the next 4 months all crypto will increase a ton, it is not a small chance neither, it is a big chance because there are so many indicators and so many historical proof that shows that crypto is in an increasing cycle these days, hopefully it will finally break over $20k once again, we have been waiting for it for 3 years and I believe it is high time that bitcoin finally goes up above $20k and when that happens all other altcoins will try to go to their own ATH as well making everyone involved a lot of profit.

the last 2 years did not bring us that good December pump but i agree with you here that we are foreseeing good this now.
because at least we have a halving effect on the way and the Sounds of covid vaccine on the way.
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Why do people focus on drops and not the increases, bitcoin has moved from $7k at the start of the year to above $12k and now still above $11k as you can see, why do you still check what it drop to instead of checking what it went up to?

In any case we are at a situation where I believe in the next 4 months all crypto will increase a ton, it is not a small chance neither, it is a big chance because there are so many indicators and so many historical proof that shows that crypto is in an increasing cycle these days, hopefully it will finally break over $20k once again, we have been waiting for it for 3 years and I believe it is high time that bitcoin finally goes up above $20k and when that happens all other altcoins will try to go to their own ATH as well making everyone involved a lot of profit.
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Can't say surely about bitcoin cause it's quite difficult to predict the right price of it. But haven't found any possible reason that could makes bitcoin down. Even at this moment price is fine for now. Besides i know that ETH 2.0 realease would be delayed but effect could be shown. So i guess eth would pump from $400 to $500-550 even more, at the end of this year
This is just a prediction so don’t expect it to happen because there’s no such an accurate price prediction. If there’s a pump then there’s a correction after that and this is more accurate than any prediction. Bitcoin can still go up we just need to stay above $12k and we will end the year 2020 on good prices including the altcoins market.

No one can accurately predict the outcome on certain situation but I don't call that its impossible since there are high possibilities that those numberwould reach up since many has been on positive minded on the current situation. And also we are still in good  track so provably its either the price will go stable or it will pump more harder.
No one can really predict future prices but those numbers are realistic compared to those who do talk about 3-4k price fall down and as mentioned that it isnt impossible for it to happen yet we have seen on how this market move its price on a very unpredictable way.

ETH isnt really that far of with that price yet it can always go below $400 and so as with Bitcoin with having $11.7k at the moment.We cant be sure if it would able to held up for that long knowing that we are playing
on 12k resistance neither it could drop or break those resistances.Well see!
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Can't say surely about bitcoin cause it's quite difficult to predict the right price of it. But haven't found any possible reason that could makes bitcoin down. Even at this moment price is fine for now. Besides i know that ETH 2.0 realease would be delayed but effect could be shown. So i guess eth would pump from $400 to $500-550 even more, at the end of this year
This is just a prediction so don’t expect it to happen because there’s no such an accurate price prediction. If there’s a pump then there’s a correction after that and this is more accurate than any prediction. Bitcoin can still go up we just need to stay above $12k and we will end the year 2020 on good prices including the altcoins market.

No one can accurately predict the outcome on certain situation but I don't call that its impossible since there are high possibilities that those numberwould reach up since many has been on positive minded on the current situation. And also we are still in good  track so provably its either the price will go stable or it will pump more harder.
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Can't say surely about bitcoin cause it's quite difficult to predict the right price of it. But haven't found any possible reason that could makes bitcoin down. Even at this moment price is fine for now. Besides i know that ETH 2.0 realease would be delayed but effect could be shown. So i guess eth would pump from $400 to $500-550 even more, at the end of this year
This is just a prediction so don’t expect it to happen because there’s no such an accurate price prediction. If there’s a pump then there’s a correction after that and this is more accurate than any prediction. Bitcoin can still go up we just need to stay above $12k and we will end the year 2020 on good prices including the altcoins market.
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Can't say surely about bitcoin cause it's quite difficult to predict the right price of it. But haven't found any possible reason that could makes bitcoin down. Even at this moment price is fine for now. Besides i know that ETH 2.0 realease would be delayed but effect could be shown. So i guess eth would pump from $400 to $500-550 even more, at the end of this year
Not only Bitcoin but also, to other cryptos. I've never heard of ETH 2.0 but the thing we are sure of, is lack of assurance that such thing will boost the price of ethereum and other cryptos because of the situation we are into.
Correction and price going down are two different things and that is why they are named differently as well. Why do you think when the price goes down some of them are called correction and some of them called bearish movement or plain old went down, don't you think there needs to be a reason why they are named differently and that is why people react to them differently as well?

Correction is when bitcoin price goes up a ton, lets recap, bitcoin started the year 7k, went to 9k, with corona it went to 4-5k levels and it peaked over 12k recently, isn't it normal that there was some correction that dropped the price a bit? That is only caused by staggering amount of people who made a profit and just wanted to get out, you would want profits as well wouldn't you?

Correction is more likely to happen when the price increase became too fast such that the price from $9k become $15k within a month. In this case I think a correction would occur and probably, the price will be back again to $10k in this instance.
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Correction and price going down are two different things and that is why they are named differently as well. Why do you think when the price goes down some of them are called correction and some of them called bearish movement or plain old went down, don't you think there needs to be a reason why they are named differently and that is why people react to them differently as well?

Correction is when bitcoin price goes up a ton, lets recap, bitcoin started the year 7k, went to 9k, with corona it went to 4-5k levels and it peaked over 12k recently, isn't it normal that there was some correction that dropped the price a bit? That is only caused by staggering amount of people who made a profit and just wanted to get out, you would want profits as well wouldn't you?
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Can't say surely about bitcoin cause it's quite difficult to predict the right price of it. But haven't found any possible reason that could makes bitcoin down. Even at this moment price is fine for now. Besides i know that ETH 2.0 realease would be delayed but effect could be shown. So i guess eth would pump from $400 to $500-550 even more, at the end of this year

It's bouncing back now,  and Yes it's hard to predict the real movements as there are many speculation around and there are people who
are trying to shake this market, be aware that whales always played around, weak holders will keep losing their investment make sure

to always have good plans before you take any decisions about your positions with your investment.
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Can't say surely about bitcoin cause it's quite difficult to predict the right price of it. But haven't found any possible reason that could makes bitcoin down. Even at this moment price is fine for now. Besides i know that ETH 2.0 realease would be delayed but effect could be shown. So i guess eth would pump from $400 to $500-550 even more, at the end of this year
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At least the data still shows that Ethereum's value is up. And it would be absurd that the crypto market would not grow if the general economies of the countries developed again. Bitcoin halving has taken place and is going to be the big pump of Bitcoin and of course the top coin will also enjoy. So in my opinion, by the end of 2020 the price of ETH and BTC will be higher than the data you provide.
So, you mean by the end of 2020 the economic situation will be same like now?

I don't think like that, bitcoin will always grow in price without that. Moreover with has happened, I think there wil be many investor who just got intereted to invest in bitcoin. There are a lot of factor who will make bitcoin's price touch another all time high, I still believe with its function for human being in the future, it is not about investment place only but you can make payment system, sending money and etc when you having it.

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Correction is happening each time that the value of Bitcoin Goes high so this is not new and must be used to this.
Why need to bother when the price still in Highest price of more than $11,000 things that we must be very thankful because
even the pandemic comes yet we are still in good faith now about our investments.

Look at Ethereum from below $150 now still doing Great at almost $400 and still showing strength in that value or maybe spiking to above 400 again
sooner?
what Bothers me most is that what if the price don't move again and like couple months ago stays in their position?
Do you think we can expect a Good hope in the last quarter or at least mid of next yar 2021?

At least the data still shows that Ethereum's value is up. And it would be absurd that the crypto market would not grow if the general economies of the countries developed again. Bitcoin halving has taken place and is going to be the big pump of Bitcoin and of course the top coin will also enjoy. So in my opinion, by the end of 2020 the price of ETH and BTC will be higher than the data you provide.
Vilatik is on the move i believe that's Why ETH is still showing this strong value while other altcoins are still on struggle,
Aside from DEFI projects that is on the move now and making difference to all altcoins.
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At least the data still shows that Ethereum's value is up. And it would be absurd that the crypto market would not grow if the general economies of the countries developed again. Bitcoin halving has taken place and is going to be the big pump of Bitcoin and of course the top coin will also enjoy. So in my opinion, by the end of 2020 the price of ETH and BTC will be higher than the data you provide.

If the world is not in this scenario and since we just finished the halving it's more likely that we are in a better price position not like this where the buy support is weakening, but hey this pandemic is another chapter for Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency in general that it's here to stay and it's going to be a part of our life.

or we can also remove the fact that halving has happened but if theres no world crisis the price would be two times better now  . we are sorry because that didnt happen but we can be thankful because halving has happened and this atleast counter more even dumps caused by the problems faced by the masses these days   . covid pandemic is a concrete proof that cryptos are really indestructable  but for the many years of cryptos existence , this crisis is the strongest  and we can expect that there were more to come  .
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But is it really just a price correction? Or Bitcoin is really headed down after all this price movement? Because even if Bitcoin is still in the 11,700$ level it doesn't mean it will clearly stay in the level or higher for longer periods.
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Probably a correction for Bitcoin and Ethereum.
As you saw before when we break the $12, 000, that was too fast and for sure a lot of traders take profits on that level of price. I am amazed on Bitcoin for not breaking below $11, 000 before, and now we are again to test the $12, 000 area.
I tend to agree, we are good so far.

That is natural movement of Bitcoin and other altcoin such as Ethereum. Once we experienced a massive price increased, it was expected that there is a small correction to the price. Actually, we can't really predict where the Bitcoin price headed of, just open thing for sure and I'm very optimistic that the price always end up surging in the market. Much better to hold and wait for your profit was there.

For now, I consider that the market is healthy and in a good condition. Nothing to worry about.
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But is it really just a price correction? Or Bitcoin is really headed down after all this price movement? Because even if Bitcoin is still in the 11,700$ level it doesn't mean it will clearly stay in the level or higher for longer periods.
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Probably a correction for Bitcoin and Ethereum.
As you saw before when we break the $12, 000, that was too fast and for sure a lot of traders take profits on that level of price. I am amazed on Bitcoin for not breaking below $11, 000 before, and now we are again to test the $12, 000 area.
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But is it really just a price correction? Or Bitcoin is really headed down after all this price movement? Because even if Bitcoin is still in the 11,700$ level it doesn't mean it will clearly stay in the level or higher for longer periods. Just think about why Bitcoin is struggling to move up above 12,000$ or at least stay there because if you look at Bitcoin's volume you will clearly see that the bullish breakout BTC had after March lacks demand you may even see that the volume is rapidly decreasing which is not supporting the price increase of Bitcoin.
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What happens to ethereum by the end of the year depends on the market as much as depends on what happens to ethereum. Right now, we are on phase 0 right now and if we do not have any incline on whats going to happen, that means the price might actually stay under 400, however if we could manage to actually get to phase 1 that would mean that it could actually do better and go up.

This is why I believe that there is a chance it could be over 700 or under 300 and both of them have the same chance, all depending on whats going on with the development of the ethereum. Right now, there is really a lot of pressure on the ethereum team, if they can manage to make it, that is why I think it could go above 700, but if they fail that means price could go down.
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It a mix of both as some of the articles says that bitcoin price can reach new high by end of 2020 and ETH could be well over 500$ etc and this article says other way around. So, it’s just one's understanding and research that what could be scenario and take a call else it is more of a confusion as for some bull run is ahead and for some it’s a bear market ahead.
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Kugelberg points to the uncertain economy as giving people reason to swap fiat for crypto investments.

it is funny how all the stuff news sites print these days has taken a 180 degree turn as if they weren't printing the exact opposite of this not so long ago saying "the uncertain economy is giving people reason to sell bitcoin"!

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He doesn’t see Ethereum’s fundamental issues,
there are far more fundamental issues with ethereum as an investment but the main thing is its unlimited  supply. which means no sane person would ever consider it a good investment.
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I see it more as a possible testing of the offer by the whales, that is, when testing the offer they realize how much they want to sell, and thus decide whether or not to raise the price, normally if they do not get much offer they continue to raise the price, it is a matter of waiting.
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The weekend market when theres bullish trend in the market especially Sunday cant be use to judge market stance cause this are mostly the day arbitrage traders manipulate the market in other to get some quick profit before business days.





Kugelberg points to the uncertain economy as giving people reason to swap fiat for crypto investments. “There’s the falling value of the dollar to be priced in; we have not seen the end of the dollar’s fall that is for sure,” he added.


This statement made sense. I have noticed some of people are slowly shifting to cryptocurrency or gold as the USD continues to fall.
Cryptocurrency and gold are the current safe haven out of the pandemic destruction but the dollars devaluation was caused by the US government.
1) They dont backed it with gold
2) They continue to print despite excess money printing complication said by people.

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Kugelberg points to the uncertain economy as giving people reason to swap fiat for crypto investments. “There’s the falling value of the dollar to be priced in; we have not seen the end of the dollar’s fall that is for sure,” he added.


This statement made sense. I have noticed some of people are slowly shifting to cryptocurrency or gold as the USD continues to fall. The end of this economic crisis may not been foreseeable yet, so people got threatened and concerned about their fiat currency slowly getting devaluation.
I'm not sure whether It made an impact to the rising motion of Btc price or is there any other relevant reasons other than the fall of fiat currencies due to excessive printing of money. Or this is just a continuation of the post halving price predictions that makes more investors gradually accumulating for the possible bullrun in 2021.
I believe that the impact on the situation occurs for several reasons, where the economic crisis due to the coronavirus, as well as halving, play the most important role. Inflationary processes in each country force people to keep their savings thanks to more valuable and alternative assets.
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Kugelberg points to the uncertain economy as giving people reason to swap fiat for crypto investments. “There’s the falling value of the dollar to be priced in; we have not seen the end of the dollar’s fall that is for sure,” he added.


This statement made sense. I have noticed some of people are slowly shifting to cryptocurrency or gold as the USD continues to fall. The end of this economic crisis may not been foreseeable yet, so people got threatened and concerned about their fiat currency slowly getting devaluation.
I'm not sure whether It made an impact to the rising motion of Btc price or is there any other relevant reasons other than the fall of fiat currencies due to excessive printing of money. Or this is just a continuation of the post halving price predictions that makes more investors gradually accumulating for the possible bullrun in 2021.
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Just a normal correction as expected since in the previous days, we are in an upward trend.
Another one is just a normal prediction. $12,000 is just a strong resistance right now and the $10,000 is just a strong support right now.

With regards to Ethereum, price right now is heavily driven by the hype of the development of the coin.
Ethereum to go below $400 is still possible since we aren't expecting for the upgrade of ETH to be finish this year.
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Anything can happen but things are looking good for now, I don't bother much on these negative  predictions all I'm reading are positive posts about the market, I want to be positive of the market and at the same time realistic, and so far the market realistically is showing good movement of bullish market.
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I am not too worried about the situations right now because I am sure that is just a correction for bitcoin price that usually happens after the price climb to the highest price. And we already saw that the price make the new ATH which we are waiting from a long time ago so that the price will be back soon to another higher price, and we will break the new ATH again. It will happen like this every time bitcoin price start rally. Besides that, we all at the weekend, which usually, the price is down for the correction. We will see the price will break $12k in the next week, and I think the price is now accumulating to get the right time to increase.
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Bitcoin is ok at this kind of levels, more worrying could be the too slow movement in the last 2 days (if that'll continue much longer).
Ethereum... I don't know, I feel like the investors are fed with way too much unrealistic promises to give them hope, I've read that the changes don't look too good on testnet.
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There is a small correction happening and this is normal after having some Bull movement so i find it weird saying that Traders are bottoming here?
The price of bitcoin is okay for this time. We should some times for a better price. Don't be panic about price. If we avoid panic sell, bitcoin will hit $15k-$16k very soon.

It's the panic that harms the price of Bitcoin and so are the other altcoins, market is doing great right now it has proven it's resiliency in the past five months, it's the correction of the price that makes a dip of it's price it's like a one step backwards two steps forward I just don;t see the price down by $400 by the end of the year, based on the outlook of it's 5 months performances.
OP is just getting exaggerated thinking that this is really in effect,we have just reached $12,300 value of Bitcoin so what if we fall to $11,600 now?

we can call this correction and may Go high again sooner.
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The price of bitcoin is okay for this time. We should some times for a better price. Don't be panic about price. If we avoid panic sell, bitcoin will hit $15k-$16k very soon.

It's the panic that harms the price of Bitcoin and so are the other altcoins, market is doing great right now it has proven it's resiliency in the past five months, it's the correction of the price that makes a dip of it's price it's like a one step backwards two steps forward I just don;t see the price down by $400 by the end of the year, based on the outlook of it's 5 months performances.
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I can't speak on bitcoin right now because all things are a bit uncertain about it, however we should point out that ethereum has 2.0 upgrade that it is waiting for and that is why I believe there is really no reason why it should be going down or staying at the same level.

Bitcoin is already doing good at the moment, just few occasions wherein it will dip, but it will quickly bounce back.

I believe that the best thing for ethereum would be to actually increase because there is 2.0 coming up and that should be a good enough reason to make it work, I would say over 500 is easy because everyone will want to own more ethereum and stake it, plus there is also a chance for something like 700 dollars and above because we are talking about an increase and from 399 to 500 is not a big one, however one from 400 to 700 would be a lot more believable and understandable from trading aspect.

Their Testnet failed initially because of a bug and with that, it will be delayed again. So I don't know if those Ethereum stakers are going to take this news positively because the released of ETH2.0 has been delayed many times already. So it will be a squeeze to reach $400-$500 at the end of the year.
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I can't speak on bitcoin right now because all things are a bit uncertain about it, however we should point out that ethereum has 2.0 upgrade that it is waiting for and that is why I believe there is really no reason why it should be going down or staying at the same level.

I believe that the best thing for ethereum would be to actually increase because there is 2.0 coming up and that should be a good enough reason to make it work, I would say over 500 is easy because everyone will want to own more ethereum and stake it, plus there is also a chance for something like 700 dollars and above because we are talking about an increase and from 399 to 500 is not a big one, however one from 400 to 700 would be a lot more believable and understandable from trading aspect.
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The price of bitcoin is okay for this time. We should some times for a better price. Don't be panic about price. If we avoid panic sell, bitcoin will hit $15k-$16k very soon.
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Just another price correction, so there's nothing to worry about. $12k is really a big barrier right now that once it is breached, seems like an automatic selling off, triggering another downturn. However, the end of the year is still that far and anything can happen. We can still hit around $15k and then look for a new all time high in 2021-2022. No need to worry, we are still in the bullish phase and it's just starting.
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Bitcoin traders are hitting the sell button Friday while the ether options market loads up on lower prices.

Bitcoin (BTC) trading around $11,674 as of 20:00 UTC (4 p.m. ET). Slipping 1.4% over the previous 24 hours.
Bitcoin’s 24-hour range: $11,605-$11,892.
BTC below its 10-day and 50-day moving averages, a bearish signal for market technicians.

After holding around $11,800 Thursday into Friday, bitcoin started to slide downward around 08:00 UTC (4 a.m. ET), dropping to a 24-hour low of $11,605. Spot volumes were lower to cap off the workweek. It was $138 million on major spot USD/BTC exchange Coinbase, lower than its $179 million average over the past month.
Over-the-counter crypto trader Henrik Kugelberg expects a bullish, if not record, fourth quarter ahead for bitcoin, even if the number of sluggish market days pile up. “I expect a slower curve but would not be surprised if we reach a $15,000 BTC in October and somewhere around $18,000-$20,000 at year end.”

Kugelberg points to the uncertain economy as giving people reason to swap fiat for crypto investments. “There’s the falling value of the dollar to be priced in; we have not seen the end of the dollar’s fall that is for sure,” he added. Indeed, while the U.S. Dollar Index, a measure of the greenback’s strength versus a basket of other fiat currencies, is up 0.52% Friday, it’s still at lows not seen since June 2018.
In the bitcoin options market, Neil Van Huis, director of sales and institutional trading at liquidity provider Blockfills, noted volatility decreased  this week. Bitcoin’s at-the-money implied volatility, which is a metric to forecast movement in prices, has dropped from 71% Monday to 59% Friday. “Looks like some normalization of volatile trading as of late,” Van Huis said.
Opportunities in Ethereum-powered DeFi are taking some traders’ focus away from the bitcoin market, Kugelbrg told CoinDesk. “The crypto community is in a total FOMO to DeFi-related altcoins,” said Kugelberg. “I believe the run-up for bitcoin may be slower than expected and fueled by retail sales to newcomers wanting a somewhat steadier haven.”


Ether options market bearish
Ether (ETH) was down Friday, trading around $399 and slipping 3.8% in 24 hours as of 20:00 UTC (4:00 p.m. ET).

The ether options market is predicting prices by the end of 2020 won’t be much higher than they are now for the world’s second-largest cryptocurrency. December 20 maturities only give ether a 25% chance of being over $520, a 38% probability of being over $420 and a 41% chance of being over $400, according to data aggregator Skew.

Despite the probabilities, Jean-Marc Bonnefous, managing partner for Tellurian Capital, which has been investing in crypto projects since 2014, is still bullish on ether. He doesn’t see Ethereum’s fundamental issues, such as fees constraining the network, as anything but a speed bump on the fast-moving DeFi highway. “Structurally, no,” said Bonnefous. “But short term, ether needs a new trigger to go higher.”

Read more: https://www.coindesk.com/market-wrap-bitcoin-eth-options?amp=1




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