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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 08, 2021, 07:51:34 AM

Are there any mixers for usdt trc20 also ?

Even if you could find legit mixer (doesn't steal your USDT), i have to remind you that,
1. Tether have capability to freeze USDT. Example, https://en.ethereumworldnews.com/bitfinex-and-tether-freeze-33m-usdt-from-kucoin-hack/
2. Some people argue that TRON isn't really decentralized due to low number of Super Representative.

I hope Tether doesn't have plan to freeze mixed USDT.

If there will exist a way to trace transactions of mixed coins, i won't be surprised if i one day i hear about holds to be burn or frozen. Some other forms of stable coins developped in top of other blockchains (than ethereum) may give a help hand. Note that the stable coin concept can be described as another form of traditional Fiat money, and this is what explain why govs intend to adopt a similar form {CBDB} .
I think it's a great possibility. I would expect USDT to be frozen at any time especially if i hold large amount of it. USDT remains to be one of the most dangerous currency [worst than fiat].

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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 09, 2021, 02:28:07 AM

So the conclusion is that chipmixer is the best mixer for bitcoin but my second question was how much fee it detects for mixing the coins as i want to know the cheapest service too.

Also as per the comments ,there is no authentic mixer of Eth and Usdt and the only way to mix them is either convert them to bitcoins or use an non-kyc exchange.

Read my previous responses, as I've already answered both of these questions. 👇

Quote from: mk4 on October 08, 2021, 11:08:17 AM

As far as I know(feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), ChipMixer is still the best mixer we have right now. And yes, I will still be saying this even if I'm not getting paid by them in a campaign. Fees can be zero(besides transaction fees) if you decide to not donate.

As for ETH/ERC-20, the only reputable one with a decent track record is Tornado Cash. I personally haven't tried it though, so I can't comment on that. And knowing that Ethereum's fees right now are as high as Snoop Dogg in a weekend, expect to be paying a hefty amount.

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I think we must differentiate between the concept of currency mixing and the promotion of privacy.
In Bitcoin, currencies can be mixed due to the nature of the system based on UTXO (unspent transaction output.) Ethereum is based on accounts system, just like bank accounts, and USDT is a centralized currency.

Thus, there are tools to enhance privacy in Ethereum and in USDT, but the problem is that USDT can be frozen inside wallets.
As for Bitcoin, currencies can be mixed inside.

Note that the percentage of Bitcoin use in illegal activities is still small.

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Quote from: mk4 on October 08, 2021, 11:08:17 AM

As far as I know(feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), ChipMixer is still the best mixer we have right now. And yes, I will still be saying this even if I'm not getting paid by them in a campaign. Fees can be zero(besides transaction fees) if you decide to not donate.

As for ETH/ERC-20, the only reputable one with a decent track record is Tornado Cash. I personally haven't tried it though, so I can't comment on that. And knowing that Ethereum's fees right now are as high as Snoop Dogg in a weekend, expect to be paying a hefty amount.

So the conclusion is that chipmixer is the best mixer for bitcoin but my second question was how much fee it detects for mixing the coins as i want to know the cheapest service too.

Also as per the comments ,there is no authentic mixer of Eth and Usdt and the only way to mix them is either convert them to bitcoins or use an non-kyc exchange.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 09, 2021, 01:37:25 AM

I haven't used any mixer but decided to search the Internet to go to the chipmixer site.
Yes, but look how google mess up things.
I searched for chipmixer in google and see the results.

https://i.imgur.com/gA8TB6n.png

I went to open the first site which is ending with .one and thought it was a legit site. Later i saw more posts here and found it is a scam site.

What wrong with google, it is not showing the real chipmixer site even on the top 3 to 4 search results Angry

Not sure why Google is not correctly indexing the legitimate website int he right spot, but using Google sometimes is not the best way to find links of websites that aren't THAT adopted. This one being a perfect example because they can easily be out-competed by blackhat SEOs.

But yea, the legitimate link is the one in my signature(both clearnet and darkweb).

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Quote from: mk4 on October 08, 2021, 11:08:17 AM

As far as I know(feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), ChipMixer is still the best mixer we have right now.

I haven't used any mixer but decided to search the Internet to go to the chipmixer site.
Yes, but look how google mess up things.
I searched for chipmixer in google and see the results.

I went to open the first site which is ending with .one and thought it was a legit site. Later i saw more posts here and found it is a scam site.

What wrong with google, it is not showing the real chipmixer site even on the top 3 to 4 search results Angry

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Quote from: Findingnemo on October 08, 2021, 01:16:20 PM

But anyone who is going to use the service should have enough research because lot of influencers doesn't make anything to be legit

There's a huge difference between a lot of influencers using a service, and a lot of influencers promoting a service. The former implies that the service actually works, whereas the latter just implies that they're getting paid to talk about the said service.

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I have never come across a cross chain mixer, if there is any, it's probably a scam.

Why not just use privacy leaning coins like monero and no KYC p2p exchanges?
- https://www.getmonero.org/community/merchants
- https://kycnot.me

https://tornadocash.eth.link is the only Ethereum mixer I know about as of now. However, use it carefully. Probably send small amounts to be mixed as they have this warning on their page

Code:

Tornado.cash was audited. However, it is still an experimental software. Please use at your own risk.

Audit: https://twitter.com/TornadoCash/status/1204745639759884289

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Quote from: mk4 on October 08, 2021, 11:23:09 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on October 08, 2021, 11:15:30 AM

First of all let me know is there any legit mixers available for the altcoins? I used to see some for ethereum but not enough credibility to prove their legitimacy.

Any veteran?

Tornado Cash is pretty reputable. I've seen that a lot of the sort of "influencers" frequently use Tornado Cash to hide their tracks because I sometimes like snooping around influencers ETH wallet addresses when I'm bored.

^But then again, haven't tried it personally, so DYOR.

Don't know and I just let the work to be done by others, just a lazy mind. Cheesy

But anyone who is going to use the service should have enough research because lot of influencers doesn't make anything to be legit

As mk said DYOR.

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First of all, I will suggest do not look always for cheap. Because you can't expect the best service for a cheap fee always. Most likely this thing will drive you to being a scam since this is cryptocurrency-related especially for Bitcoin mixers. You should look at the safest way, not the cheapest way to mix them. As you can see from the list above given by other users, you might choose the right mixer from there. I am not familiar with any ETH or usdt mixture, so just be careful if you find any offer about that.

Anyway, whatever you choose to mix your Bitcoin, ethereum or usdt just share with the community before proceeding, so you can get the opinion from the community if the community had used it before and you might go in the right direction

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Quote from: Findingnemo on October 08, 2021, 11:15:30 AM

First of all let me know is there any legit mixers available for the altcoins? I used to see some for ethereum but not enough credibility to prove their legitimacy.

Any veteran?

Tornado Cash is pretty reputable. I've seen that a lot of the sort of "influencers" frequently use Tornado Cash to hide their tracks because I sometimes like snooping around influencers ETH wallet addresses when I'm bored.

^But then again, haven't tried it personally, so DYOR.

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First of all let me know is there any legit mixers available for the altcoins? I used to see some for ethereum but not enough credibility to prove their legitimacy.

Any veteran?

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As far as I know(feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), ChipMixer is still the best mixer we have right now. And yes, I will still be saying this even if I'm not getting paid by them in a campaign. Fees can be zero(besides transaction fees) if you decide to not donate.

As for ETH/ERC-20, the only reputable one with a decent track record is Tornado Cash. I personally haven't tried it though, so I can't comment on that. And knowing that Ethereum's fees right now are as high as Snoop Dogg in a weekend, expect to be paying a hefty amount.

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There was a discussion among the ethereum foundation blog devs about creating a mixing for ETH some years ago to enhance total privacy in the ETH network and after I saw your post I check the site to see if the discussion push through and I see that they have created 2 apps for it.

Note: I haven't used it and I don't recommend it but the app was audited and posted on GitHub.

1) MicroMix was said to be a non-custodial Ethereum and ERC20 token mixer. If works well you can use it to mix USDT on the Ethereum network.
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2) Generic zcash style circuit it is stated that it can be used for ETH and ERC20 mixing, voting, anonymous DAOs, anonymous social media, and in other cool privacy-focused areas.
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Quote from: noormcs5 on October 08, 2021, 07:51:34 AM

Are there any mixers for usdt trc20 also ? I haven't heard any. It will be useful if anyone know about it.

I'm trying to have a legit source but I didn't find out, because I have doubted before that there are no legitimate USDT mixers around, they're all scams and most likely didn't exist. Just use DEXs exchange for your USDT to cover or mask your identity if this is really what you want.

Be careful of USDT mixers and here are the threads that might help you to find scam websites and not fall as a victim.

Anyway, you can move this thread to altcoin service discussion or inn service discussion board.

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For bitcoin mixers, please check this great thread : 2021 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites

Here another list of scammy tumblers that you should avoid at all costs : 2021 List of scam Bitcoin Mixers to avoid or closed

Suggestion : Use ChipMixer

For ethereum and other alts Mixers, i don't know about any of them and did't here about any of them before. Never forget to re-check every suggestion before using any of them with real money .

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I would like to know what are the safest and cheapest services which offer bitcoin and ethereum mixers ?
Are there any mixers for usdt trc20 also ? I haven't heard any. It will be useful if anyone know about it.

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