Topic: Bitcoin-Financial.com (Read 4952 times)

Just wanted to say that BitcoinINV is a SCAMMER! Loaned $1500 and recalled the loan per our terms and have never received it. Looks like he hasn't logged on in forever. He won't answer calls, texts, or e-mails.

Completely! Who could have predicted this??




hahaha

If it smells like a scam, walks like a scam, and looks like a scam, it is probably a scam.

Sent an email to the address I had. Called and left a voicemail on the number I had. Also sent a text. No communication still. No login from BitcoinINV since 4/11/13

Was this a surprise?

I recalled my loan from BitcoinINV (nothing against him) as I wished to use the funds to finish another LTC miner build. He was supposed to return the funds within 7 days. It's now been 9 days since I've requested funds. BitcoinINV hasn't been online since the 11th now. I'm trying to locate the contact information he gave me. If anyone has his information, please post it so I can attempt to call him if he doesn't contact me here soon.

-Moose

At the moment BitcoinINV is late with the BTCjam debt payment ( https://btcjam.com/listings/1451 ) . Have this in mind when dealing with him.

It doesn't matter if your got the idea first, it is the one who implements it better and has better marketing who wins the game.
It is unfair, but that's life.
Just ask Apple and Samsung.

I just checked out your new design. I must concur with the other bashers. You just switched from a html template to a flash template.
You seriously must get a front-end developer. Btw, Flash is a very favourite vector for attacks and it is a scandal for those who actually care about privacy. And the bitcoin community is all about security and privacy.

I am sorry to tell you but your website is still screaming "scammy".
You don't seem to have a good business sense at all, if you can't take these criticisms seriously and ignore how customers may think I wonder if I should keep shares at all.

Thank you for the laugh. LOL

When a comment is started like this
It is provocation, why would you stick you hand in someones face, and expect them not to get defensive? Have you thought about that? Its not always  what you did, but how you did it.

Maybe something like this would have got a different response, Hey the site looks alright but flash is dead.........
But you provoke people to be an asshole to you, then you try to spin it about how what they said speaks volumes about them lol. Should start by looking at what you said first..

You do know about flash and SEO, don't you?

I have told you this before gweedo, I have never seen any "great website's" of yours all of them have been lackluster to say at best, If you had something worth looking at I may listen to you till then it is just mindless ramblings.

I agree about the sound, and have had it removed. Use your phone 

Nope - not everyone.

I surf from work over RDP.  Your site is now inaccessible to me because of all the graphics.  Plus, sound on a home page is annoying. 

New website think this should please everyone 

Project not mature enough? hmm are you looking for that info at? maybe look at the business before it changed names bitcoin-keys.com it has a history of profit.

That project was so mature BTCquick copied the process lmfao

Bitcoin-Financial.com,
Sorry but I will join the others here.
Your site smells scammy, it is terribly designed.

And this is coming from someone who used to use MtGox when it was absolutely horrid without any design at all, just as MPex.
But that look was just the typical site that smells like a "programmer's" site, terrible design and complex functionality.

Yours on the other hand, smells plainly "scammy". It goes beyond bad taste, it is simply careless, amateurish and a terrible hack.
Although the Cyclos part of it, well, that tells a different story.

Overall I don't believe you to be scammy, but I wouldn't invest in you right now.
The project is not mature enough and I wonder about your business skills.

Got your verification and it was processed

Thanks...!!!
Works like a charm now..

Go ahead and log in, I manually cleared it for you.

Tried signing up for an account today got stopped on the email confirmations.
First one sent me to here. http://account.bitcoin-financial.com/do/validateRegistration?key=6kaYQVvKo6gv5yWmbUWrhfuyHAhfsU1H2XALhXFmPdCNyLGV0Uw61maexp3JGvsW
Server Not Found.
Second one was the same.
Third one the link doesn't work at all.
Got a valid link to the email confirmation?

You made a loan or took a loan? Details?

Seeing how I have been doing it since Sept of last year... A while I am the one who came up with the system for selling bitcoin-keys...
Sorry about the site, we are having SSL issues. I will work on getting it sorted out.

It was more then 500$ we offer other services and methods of purchase 

How many hours have you spent researching and selling bitcoins? Count in merchant fees, chargebacks (or time spent dealing with chargebacks).. All for $500 profit.

This website is non-functional.

You are correct sir.

$10,000 in sales is not $10,000 in profit. According to BitcoinINV he makes 5% on his sales. so he has made $ 500.00.

You forgot to take the UID off of the name you were trying to hide, so it still leads to the profile.

One is my site and the other is one for someone I wrote it for. Please take a look at the html, you will find that they are all written in HTML 5 standards. http://qcl.me uses techniques such as mod_rewrite to get nice urls and uses MVC for getting information and displaying it, which is all called in from the index page. Also it is heavily using encryption and hashing techniques to make sure addresses aren't being changed. All documented here http://qcl.me/faq and even includes api docs here http://qcl.me/api

Also if you think this is nitpicking then no you are wrong, this just standard programming that everyone that programs should know. I have written enough sites to know that who ever wrote your site, hasn't had a clue about programming and just took a theme and threw it on some code. There is no reason your links should be using an ip address (relative links should be used), There is no way you should be using iframes for so many things, it just a poorly written site. Not nitpicking just bad programming, it isn't your fault. To be honest point your programmers to this thread, and with hold funds and payments until they fix it.

Ok we switched sites still working on it but go ahead and nitpick .

What is that site you have listed down there gweedo if that is some of your work.....

If you read that he actually recommends me first LMAO that is weird, and yes I am insane that is why if you ask anyone I actually did work for they say I am an insane perfectionist, and I have even saved some people from having disaster results from other programmers.

Yes he should hire gweedo lol

Usually the biggest detractor is also your largest fan 

Although Gweedo might be too outspoken in this case, I agree with him unfortunately too. If you have problems designing the site, just use bootstrap or any other premade template that looks better first.

Its being worked on foggy b


This is from another member who I was talking about coding with. No one will work with you or give you a good word cause your actions.
So its not just me that thinks gweedo pollutes the forums just check around you will see it in plenty of places.

But yea back to the point its getting worked on. It's just a shell to the account access account.bitcoin-financial.com is the only address that matters. SSL was installed today takes up to 72 hours to aim at the new DNS.

Gweedo is not trolling. Take his advice, or better yet, hire him! This is the worst looking live site I've ever seen. First impression. Hire a proper designer.

If your trying to attract old people from HTTP v 1.0 era SPOT on keep going, great job LMAO who are you trying attract innocent people to take advantage of?

Glad its not doing it for you I'm trying to keep your kind away.

Just wait, your looking at the site not the system gweedo don't be so shallow the site is just the outside.

Got 3 programmers and 1 graphic designer and one editor now lol.

Just wait, Ill let you know when everything is finished then you can nitpick it to death. Then I will relay it to the employee's, anyone have a conversation with live chat yet?

If so would you mind rating how they performed for me?

Oh, ok.  The bitcoin-keys site actually looked pretty cool. 

Best of luck!

I just checked your website out. Some of the images on the slideshow were not working and there are visible notches on some of the pictures where they were cut and pasted in. The images in the "payments accepted" section are stretched and pixelated from where they were copied and forced to fit in a space where they couldn't fit. "Payments accepted" also feels like it's worded awkwardly (like much of this post of mine, lol). A couple of the buttons at the bottom of the page aren't formatted correctly either, I think.

I'm not trying to sound mean when I say this, but your website is very poorly designed. If you're being honest about having made $10,000... well, I would invest some of that in a web designer.

Lol 10k+ I doubt that...
My trade bot does that every 2 days good try thou

I can't disclosure what any of my sites make NDA with business partners

Sure it does.....

Thanks for all the great input, but the figures speak there own.
 Thanks for the input Gweedo we all know the community values your comments.
danieldaniel we just moved sites from bitcoin-keys.com all business was held on there.
The website was being worked on today, do not know how far they got.

Gweedo whens the last time your business did 10K+ in sales......

Nobody would send money to a person who cannot use punctuation either. 

no he playing business man no one would send money to a site that looks like a nigerian scammer developed LOL

Uh, are you seriously doing business with that site?  Half of the links don't work, the site is inconsistent for half of the pages, and it downright looks like crap.

That does not encourage business.

Some of our business statments


Will add googlecheckout report latter its about 5.3k in business.
Profit is about 5% after expenses.

I confirm and agree with the statement above.

Confirmed that I loaned BitcoinINV $1500 for a period of three months. Johnthedong has a copy of the GPG-signed agreement on file, as well as confirmation from both parties of funds sent and received.

I don't mind interest rate terms being disclosed publicly, but I'll let BitcoinINV decide how many details of the transaction to make public. This is my second large investment with a Bitcointalk.org member. I also have a deal going on with user 420 for the same amount.

I can't wait to see returns on both investments and further help the Bitcoin community along!

-Moose

First Bank Transfer to BTC-E finally went through 

The verification software is pretty cool but it seems to not like the lowend webcams
https://bitcoinfinancial.netverify.com/v2

sad they would not support you more vocally but money is a good start.
well done!

edit: care to share the details/conditions of the loan and how much was raised in total?

I don't like how the domain is just an iframe to the actual server. Try setting nameservers up instead of using your registrar's redirect function or whatever.

Verification software installed, make sure you have your webcam focus set or it will deny it.

well it looks like a wordpress theme, but are you going to setup one of these things in every company until you find the dumb people to use it? Or you going to listen us the smart people and move on and try something new?

Your so very right, but I want to know what proof they have of these statements.

Doing the same thing and expecting a different result - isn't that what Einstein called "insanity"?

Its not word-press figured you would know that since you are a programmer and all.

I am going to try to have a real conversation with you, even though we all know that is impossible. I have never seen a secretary with such great business sense. Usually when that happens they go into business for them self, but some do not have the drive or the brain for that. But then again you can not read, as I posted in the first post my troll club was not welcome.

Now, explain how this is "brazenly misrepresented". Let see if you can stay on topic and address this issue? Or will you just do you normal trolling?

I guess the last shreds of credibility the "new Bitcoin project" might have had as a concept are quickly being thrashed away. Thanks to brilliant idiots like this guy, like the various Bitcoin ponzi artists and so forth, all the Bitcoin financial services that are ever going to exist already do, simply because nobody's going to go out on a limb with something new. It just doesn't make sense anymore, not when you have to risk your balance trying to pick and choose amidst this sort of utter trash so brazenly misrepresented.

Nice going, you're probably making Mr. P more money than I do.

LMAO nice wordpress theme LOL Also worst image quality ever!

Off topic


Kinda honored to between these two

If my business fails to fail, what does that mean?

So, what about the coin purchases? What fees do you charge? Verification, etc. You're failing to build any hype here.

50/50 chance your businesses fail  fail as well just to throw that out there.
Now lets keep this on topic, and not what your unfounded speculative guesses are.

50/50 chance that this is going to turn out the way of WorldBitcoinExchange, CryptoXChange, Bitcoinica, BitLc...

Just saying, don't put a significant amount of coins into this site unless you want to lose it in a hack / scam.

http://jumio.com/products/netverify/overview/ Verification software

No offence meant, but the site's look and feel is about the level of http://bitcointalks.com/ and other scam sites.

Also, this sounds like snake oil...



I would recommend you to streamline the site and work on the grammar, spelling and the overall look.

Found and fixed...

Lol code is not changed yet its aimed at microsoft as a test, thats why were not live. God forbid if something is not what it seems, its fixed now. I do not own microsoft twitter accounts either just in case you see those as well. I will change them over when we set up a twitter feed.
I got a SSL cert just have not hooked it up yet, all these little things will be fixed by the 1st.

Right there - site is not trustworthy.

Recommended reading: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.897535

"3,354 people like this. Be the first of your friends."

No they don't, where did you buy the facebook likes?

I can't repro it from just letting the slideshow run.  I must have clicked on the "Pick your currency" tab, which consistently takes me to the state in the screenshot.

Also, you absolutely need SSL for this kind of site.  Make sure to get a cert ASAP and don't launch without it.

Thats odd I have never had that happen before, let me check with my Dev buddy real quick.

This is what I got after the slideshow on the homepage changed a few times clicking on the "Pick your currency" tab in the slideshow:

Note the URL in the address bar.

Its all good I understand, its guilty till innocent here lol
And I do have a gox link lol sorry. Its a chart sneeky sneeky lol.

Is this your site?  Reading the text in the OP, it looks like something you would create.  However, I'm pretty sure you aren't in the business of scamming/phishing.

No it don't lol  where the hell did that come from? I have 0 interaction with gox on that site.

Phishing
Buggy site.

This site redirected me to mtgox in an iframe.

http://youtu.be/h0uHUHz9YnU

Bitcoin financial is a inclusive platform aimed at making the average alternative banking customers life easy. The way we do this is by making all of our services fast, easy, and secure.

We use a unique technique that holds all of our coins off our server for the most protection. The majority of coins at all times are held in a cold storage account. We also use the newest tech in Identification verification, it works kinda like facial identification software. It takes a video of the I.D. that measures thickness, hologram identification and finally runs the I.D. number through and matches it. All of this happens in less then 2 seconds.

Our system is designed to be easy for the everyday bitcoiner, we do this by making everything in one place. Why go here there and everywhere for all your alternative banking needs?

Our system processes Bitcoin transfers in real time, this means no manual processing and waiting. We will also have live support online 12 hours a day to help you with your every need.

*Platinum accounts require min deposit and verification. Interest may change or be higher for larger deposits. All interest is paid from the proceeds of selling coins.
**Lending is completely free for the lender, services such as Right Signature contracts may have fee's.

Launch March 1st
www.bitcoin-financial.com
Off topic post not welcomed or post from my troll club.