Topic: Bitcoin Forum Accounts (Read 1326 times)
But taking acccount as collateral and when that people don't pay loan it will be hard for you to sell those accounts in reasonable price. Don't give more than 40-50% of the account price as loan.
I've already given my first loan. I regret taking the collateral that I did, but it's something to learn from and it wasn't exactly a huge loan. The account should be sellable for the amount I loaned him, but only time will tell. He'll probably pay me back, but I'm not worried if he doesn't.
The thing to avoid while lending bitcoin taking forum account as collateral is you must not lend amount equal to account value
So for example, according to you if the value of an account is 0.1 btc in the market then don't give lender loan of more than 0.07 btc
In this way even if the market drops you won't make loss
I found this way when I was scammed by giving out large amount which was a bit high than account value and then later faced loss
I think 50% discount of the account is at least. The price of the account has dropped quite a lot since the bitcoin price has risen.
The account market is close to an end now cause there are a lot more accounts than needed and also not enough signature campaigns to enroll.A lot amount of people are going to start defaulting before it ends.
The thing to avoid while lending bitcoin taking forum account as collateral is you must not lend amount equal to account value
So for example, according to you if the value of an account is 0.1 btc in the market then don't give lender loan of more than 0.07 btc
In this way even if the market drops you won't make loss
I found this way when I was scammed by giving out large amount which was a bit high than account value and then later faced loss
people might just go away with whatever you are willing to lend and which is why you should see the Rep before lending.
I've already given my first loan. I regret taking the collateral that I did, but it's something to learn from and it wasn't exactly a huge loan. The account should be sellable for the amount I loaned him, but only time will tell. He'll probably pay me back, but I'm not worried if he doesn't.
The thing to avoid while lending bitcoin taking forum account as collateral is you must not lend amount equal to account value
So for example, according to you if the value of an account is 0.1 btc in the market then don't give lender loan of more than 0.07 btc
In this way even if the market drops you won't make loss
I found this way when I was scammed by giving out large amount which was a bit high than account value and then later faced loss
I've already given my first loan. I regret taking the collateral that I did, but it's something to learn from and it wasn't exactly a huge loan. The account should be sellable for the amount I loaned him, but only time will tell. He'll probably pay me back, but I'm not worried if he doesn't.
The thing to avoid while lending bitcoin taking forum account as collateral is you must not lend amount equal to account value
So for example, according to you if the value of an account is 0.1 btc in the market then don't give lender loan of more than 0.07 btc
In this way even if the market drops you won't make loss
I found this way when I was scammed by giving out large amount which was a bit high than account value and then later faced loss
I've already given my first loan. I regret taking the collateral that I did, but it's something to learn from and it wasn't exactly a huge loan. The account should be sellable for the amount I loaned him, but only time will tell. He'll probably pay me back, but I'm not worried if he doesn't.
Do be carefull tough... It's not because an account is worth 0.1 that it's an easy sale..
I've given out small loans in the past, and it took ages to sell defaulted collateral for a decent price. To make things even worse, a couple guys always left neutral or negative feedback on the account being sold, making it worth even less.
In the end, a couple accounts were unsellable, and i lost some coins due to giving out loans. So make sure you have a solid plan before you even start.
I've already given my first loan. I regret taking the collateral that I did, but it's something to learn from and it wasn't exactly a huge loan. The account should be sellable for the amount I loaned him, but only time will tell. He'll probably pay me back, but I'm not worried if he doesn't. I've given out small loans in the past, and it took ages to sell defaulted collateral for a decent price. To make things even worse, a couple guys always left neutral or negative feedback on the account being sold, making it worth even less.
In the end, a couple accounts were unsellable, and i lost some coins due to giving out loans. So make sure you have a solid plan before you even start.
Lots of accounts and members rank increasing everyday. I'm not sure in the future (2-3 years) we can use bitcointalk accounts as collateral.
Mainly it's because of the btc price increasing. I think if the price rise up to $600 or more, accounts will no longer be a sufficient collateral for loans here.
Do be carefull tough... It's not because an account is worth 0.1 that it's an easy sale..
I've given out small loans in the past, and it took ages to sell defaulted collateral for a decent price. To make things even worse, a couple guys always left neutral or negative feedback on the account being sold, making it worth even less.
In the end, a couple accounts were unsellable, and i lost some coins due to giving out loans. So make sure you have a solid plan before you even start.
I've given out small loans in the past, and it took ages to sell defaulted collateral for a decent price. To make things even worse, a couple guys always left neutral or negative feedback on the account being sold, making it worth even less.
In the end, a couple accounts were unsellable, and i lost some coins due to giving out loans. So make sure you have a solid plan before you even start.
Lots of accounts and members rank increasing everyday. I'm not sure in the future (2-3 years) we can use bitcointalk accounts as collateral.
In the future, there will be more members and more accounts. There will always be demand for higher rank account.
Lots of accounts and members rank increasing everyday. I'm not sure in the future (2-3 years) we can use bitcointalk accounts as collateral.
This is the website that helps you calculate the price of a btc account. www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/
You should offer a loan amount less than this price to earn some profit. Also, do check the post quality of the account you get as a collateral to see if there are any chances of it getting banned. Also, the trust ratings matter and accounts with more green trust are sold at a higher value. Selling BCT accounts often have led to scamming but you need to check the background of the buyer before selling him the account.
You should offer a loan amount less than this price to earn some profit. Also, do check the post quality of the account you get as a collateral to see if there are any chances of it getting banned. Also, the trust ratings matter and accounts with more green trust are sold at a higher value. Selling BCT accounts often have led to scamming but you need to check the background of the buyer before selling him the account.
The price from that website is higher than the ones on the market. That figure was right before the bitcoin price rise.
Thanks for the reply.
This is the website that helps you calculate the price of a btc account. www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/
You should offer a loan amount less than this price to earn some profit. Also, do check the post quality of the account you get as a collateral to see if there are any chances of it getting banned. Also, the trust ratings matter and accounts with more green trust are sold at a higher value. Selling BCT accounts often have led to scamming but you need to check the background of the buyer before selling him the account.
You should offer a loan amount less than this price to earn some profit. Also, do check the post quality of the account you get as a collateral to see if there are any chances of it getting banned. Also, the trust ratings matter and accounts with more green trust are sold at a higher value. Selling BCT accounts often have led to scamming but you need to check the background of the buyer before selling him the account.
The price from that website is higher than the ones on the market. That figure was right before the bitcoin price rise.
bctalkaccountpricer.info does provide an estimated price for accounts here in foru but I don't think you shoul take it as an accurate price.
Here is my pricing based on the stats of an account.
Potential accounts:
Pot. Member: 0.003 - 0.01 BTC Depends on the current rank and it's post quality. If it's currently a newbie then it could be 0.003 btc , a jr. member near member rank should be around 0.01 btc
Pot. Full Member: 0.01 - 0.03 BTC Still it depends on it's rank and it's post quality.
Pot. Sr. Member: 0.04 - 0.06 BTC
Pot. Hero Member: 0.08 - 0.12 BTC
Pot. Legendary: 0.1 - 0.3 BTC
Accounts as per rank:
Newbie: Doesn't really have any value. Some people sell newbs account because it was an old account created older than 2014 , some buy it but I don't think they even worth something
Jr. Member: 0.002 - 0.004 BTC
Member: 0.01 - 0.02 BTC
Full Member: 0.04 - 0.07 BTC
Sr. Member 0.07 - 0.09 BTC
Hero Member: 0.12 - 0.3BTC
Legendary: 0.4 - 1.5 BTC
That all just depends on my pricing. The price depends still on post quality, if the account has low post quality it would cost less. Also the trust feedback of the account shoul matter. Never get a collateral with a negged account.
Seems like a pretty good, list, thank you. I made my first loan to a potential full member yesterday, using the website recommended and by looking at some other posts of accounts for sale, like all of you suggested.Here is my pricing based on the stats of an account.
Potential accounts:
Pot. Member: 0.003 - 0.01 BTC Depends on the current rank and it's post quality. If it's currently a newbie then it could be 0.003 btc , a jr. member near member rank should be around 0.01 btc
Pot. Full Member: 0.01 - 0.03 BTC Still it depends on it's rank and it's post quality.
Pot. Sr. Member: 0.04 - 0.06 BTC
Pot. Hero Member: 0.08 - 0.12 BTC
Pot. Legendary: 0.1 - 0.3 BTC
Accounts as per rank:
Newbie: Doesn't really have any value. Some people sell newbs account because it was an old account created older than 2014 , some buy it but I don't think they even worth something
Jr. Member: 0.002 - 0.004 BTC
Member: 0.01 - 0.02 BTC
Full Member: 0.04 - 0.07 BTC
Sr. Member 0.07 - 0.09 BTC
Hero Member: 0.12 - 0.3BTC
Legendary: 0.4 - 1.5 BTC
That all just depends on my pricing. The price depends still on post quality, if the account has low post quality it would cost less. Also the trust feedback of the account shoul matter. Never get a collateral with a negged account.
Thanks for all of the input.
bctalkaccountpricer.info does provide an estimated price for accounts here in foru but I don't think you shoul take it as an accurate price.
Here is my pricing based on the stats of an account.
Potential accounts:
Pot. Member: 0.003 - 0.01 BTC Depends on the current rank and it's post quality. If it's currently a newbie then it could be 0.003 btc , a jr. member near member rank should be around 0.01 btc
Pot. Full Member: 0.01 - 0.03 BTC Still it depends on it's rank and it's post quality.
Pot. Sr. Member: 0.04 - 0.06 BTC
Pot. Hero Member: 0.08 - 0.12 BTC
Pot. Legendary: 0.1 - 0.3 BTC
Accounts as per rank:
Newbie: Doesn't really have any value. Some people sell newbs account because it was an old account created older than 2014 , some buy it but I don't think they even worth something
Jr. Member: 0.002 - 0.004 BTC
Member: 0.01 - 0.02 BTC
Full Member: 0.04 - 0.07 BTC
Sr. Member 0.07 - 0.09 BTC
Hero Member: 0.12 - 0.3BTC
Legendary: 0.4 - 1.5 BTC
That all just depends on my pricing. The price depends still on post quality, if the account has low post quality it would cost less. Also the trust feedback of the account shoul matter. Never get a collateral with a negged account.
Seems like a pretty good, list, thank you. I made my first loan to a potential full member yesterday, using the website recommended and by looking at some other posts of accounts for sale, like all of you suggested.Here is my pricing based on the stats of an account.
Potential accounts:
Pot. Member: 0.003 - 0.01 BTC Depends on the current rank and it's post quality. If it's currently a newbie then it could be 0.003 btc , a jr. member near member rank should be around 0.01 btc
Pot. Full Member: 0.01 - 0.03 BTC Still it depends on it's rank and it's post quality.
Pot. Sr. Member: 0.04 - 0.06 BTC
Pot. Hero Member: 0.08 - 0.12 BTC
Pot. Legendary: 0.1 - 0.3 BTC
Accounts as per rank:
Newbie: Doesn't really have any value. Some people sell newbs account because it was an old account created older than 2014 , some buy it but I don't think they even worth something
Jr. Member: 0.002 - 0.004 BTC
Member: 0.01 - 0.02 BTC
Full Member: 0.04 - 0.07 BTC
Sr. Member 0.07 - 0.09 BTC
Hero Member: 0.12 - 0.3BTC
Legendary: 0.4 - 1.5 BTC
That all just depends on my pricing. The price depends still on post quality, if the account has low post quality it would cost less. Also the trust feedback of the account shoul matter. Never get a collateral with a negged account.
Thanks for all of the input.
bctalkaccountpricer.info does provide an estimated price for accounts here in foru but I don't think you shoul take it as an accurate price.
Here is my pricing based on the stats of an account.
Potential accounts:
Pot. Member: 0.003 - 0.01 BTC Depends on the current rank and it's post quality. If it's currently a newbie then it could be 0.003 btc , a jr. member near member rank should be around 0.01 btc
Pot. Full Member: 0.01 - 0.03 BTC Still it depends on it's rank and it's post quality.
Pot. Sr. Member: 0.04 - 0.06 BTC
Pot. Hero Member: 0.08 - 0.12 BTC
Pot. Legendary: 0.1 - 0.3 BTC
Accounts as per rank:
Newbie: Doesn't really have any value. Some people sell newbs account because it was an old account created older than 2014 , some buy it but I don't think they even worth something
Jr. Member: 0.002 - 0.004 BTC
Member: 0.01 - 0.02 BTC
Full Member: 0.04 - 0.07 BTC
Sr. Member 0.07 - 0.09 BTC
Hero Member: 0.12 - 0.3BTC
Legendary: 0.4 - 1.5 BTC
That all just depends on my pricing. The price depends still on post quality, if the account has low post quality it would cost less. Also the trust feedback of the account shoul matter. Never get a collateral with a negged account.
Seems like a pretty good, list, thank you. I made my first loan to a potential full member yesterday, using the website recommended and by looking at some other posts of accounts for sale, like all of you suggested.Here is my pricing based on the stats of an account.
Potential accounts:
Pot. Member: 0.003 - 0.01 BTC Depends on the current rank and it's post quality. If it's currently a newbie then it could be 0.003 btc , a jr. member near member rank should be around 0.01 btc
Pot. Full Member: 0.01 - 0.03 BTC Still it depends on it's rank and it's post quality.
Pot. Sr. Member: 0.04 - 0.06 BTC
Pot. Hero Member: 0.08 - 0.12 BTC
Pot. Legendary: 0.1 - 0.3 BTC
Accounts as per rank:
Newbie: Doesn't really have any value. Some people sell newbs account because it was an old account created older than 2014 , some buy it but I don't think they even worth something
Jr. Member: 0.002 - 0.004 BTC
Member: 0.01 - 0.02 BTC
Full Member: 0.04 - 0.07 BTC
Sr. Member 0.07 - 0.09 BTC
Hero Member: 0.12 - 0.3BTC
Legendary: 0.4 - 1.5 BTC
That all just depends on my pricing. The price depends still on post quality, if the account has low post quality it would cost less. Also the trust feedback of the account shoul matter. Never get a collateral with a negged account.
Thanks for all of the input.
bctalkaccountpricer.info does provide an estimated price for accounts here in foru but I don't think you shoul take it as an accurate price.
Here is my pricing based on the stats of an account.
Potential accounts:
Pot. Member: 0.003 - 0.01 BTC Depends on the current rank and it's post quality. If it's currently a newbie then it could be 0.003 btc , a jr. member near member rank should be around 0.01 btc
Pot. Full Member: 0.01 - 0.03 BTC Still it depends on it's rank and it's post quality.
Pot. Sr. Member: 0.04 - 0.06 BTC
Pot. Hero Member: 0.08 - 0.12 BTC
Pot. Legendary: 0.1 - 0.3 BTC
Accounts as per rank:
Newbie: Doesn't really have any value. Some people sell newbs account because it was an old account created older than 2014 , some buy it but I don't think they even worth something
Jr. Member: 0.002 - 0.004 BTC
Member: 0.01 - 0.02 BTC
Full Member: 0.04 - 0.07 BTC
Sr. Member 0.07 - 0.09 BTC
Hero Member: 0.12 - 0.3BTC
Legendary: 0.4 - 1.5 BTC
That all just depends on my pricing. The price depends still on post quality, if the account has low post quality it would cost less. Also the trust feedback of the account shoul matter. Never get a collateral with a negged account.
Here is my pricing based on the stats of an account.
Potential accounts:
Pot. Member: 0.003 - 0.01 BTC Depends on the current rank and it's post quality. If it's currently a newbie then it could be 0.003 btc , a jr. member near member rank should be around 0.01 btc
Pot. Full Member: 0.01 - 0.03 BTC Still it depends on it's rank and it's post quality.
Pot. Sr. Member: 0.04 - 0.06 BTC
Pot. Hero Member: 0.08 - 0.12 BTC
Pot. Legendary: 0.1 - 0.3 BTC
Accounts as per rank:
Newbie: Doesn't really have any value. Some people sell newbs account because it was an old account created older than 2014 , some buy it but I don't think they even worth something
Jr. Member: 0.002 - 0.004 BTC
Member: 0.01 - 0.02 BTC
Full Member: 0.04 - 0.07 BTC
Sr. Member 0.07 - 0.09 BTC
Hero Member: 0.12 - 0.3BTC
Legendary: 0.4 - 1.5 BTC
That all just depends on my pricing. The price depends still on post quality, if the account has low post quality it would cost less. Also the trust feedback of the account shoul matter. Never get a collateral with a negged account.
the website bctalkaccountpricer.info that erikalui suggested is a good option since it will also give link to the posts which the user has posted his bitcoin address but remember that the price of a forum account is mostly determined with the bitcoin price and also the demand for it. for example if the price goes up the account will be worth less in bitcoin.
An account value assessment is not something that some other website that have some type of script predict since most of them just use standard cases and we all know that each account value, differs even if their both have the same rank with the same activity and post. every single accounts needs to be evaluated on a case to case basis before you could accept them for a loan, as a collateral. Quality is one thing, trust is another thing (that both contribute into giving worth to any account).
Hi
I was looking at providing BTC micro loans, and have noticed a lot of people provide account collateral. I can't seem to find a good solid list of how much accounts really are worth. I'm not sure if I really want to take accounts as collateral because it boosts scamming, by at the same time it seems to be a large part of collateral. What exactly are accounts worth, I would assume Newbies and Jr. Members are worth nothing?
Thank you
I was looking at providing BTC micro loans, and have noticed a lot of people provide account collateral. I can't seem to find a good solid list of how much accounts really are worth. I'm not sure if I really want to take accounts as collateral because it boosts scamming, by at the same time it seems to be a large part of collateral. What exactly are accounts worth, I would assume Newbies and Jr. Members are worth nothing?
Thank you
There is no clear rule about how much accounts are worth. But there are couple rules:
1. Of course newbie, junior member and member account are basically not worth anything.
2. Full member account is a first level of account which is eligible as collateral imo.
3. There are also variables like: post quality (better posts=better price for account, red/green trust marks), previous bans etc.
Did some micro loans back in the days and got stiffed for some small change. Most likely a degenerate gambler. I still think it's fun and am actually offering to loan .1 out for a small return =}
And I wouldn't deal in noob accounts myself. How big are the loans? Doesn't take much to run away and start another account. Most people aren't very attached to them.
I won't be loaning anything too large, I want to be able to know that if they do run with the BTC, I can recover the losses at least by selling the account.Thank you for all the replies so far. I have checked out the website you provided (erikalui) and it seems quite good, I've never seen it before! I think i'll take a look at some accounts for sale too, and take a look at some good Escrow.
Thanks for all of the replies!
And I wouldn't deal in noob accounts myself. How big are the loans? Doesn't take much to run away and start another account. Most people aren't very attached to them.
This is the website that helps you calculate the price of a btc account. www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/
You should offer a loan amount less than this price to earn some profit. Also, do check the post quality of the account you get as a collateral to see if there are any chances of it getting banned. Also, the trust ratings matter and accounts with more green trust are sold at a higher value. Selling BCT accounts often have led to scamming but you need to check the background of the buyer before selling him the account.
You should offer a loan amount less than this price to earn some profit. Also, do check the post quality of the account you get as a collateral to see if there are any chances of it getting banned. Also, the trust ratings matter and accounts with more green trust are sold at a higher value. Selling BCT accounts often have led to scamming but you need to check the background of the buyer before selling him the account.
Check the digital goods and auctions section for a feel on price. There's also a website that values accounts but I can't remember how to find it. I think account values are gonna take a hit as there ain't so many good sig campaigns any more.
Noobs have gotta be worth nothing. jrs maybe a little bit?
Noobs have gotta be worth nothing. jrs maybe a little bit?
Hi
I was looking at providing BTC micro loans, and have noticed a lot of people provide account collateral. I can't seem to find a good solid list of how much accounts really are worth. I'm not sure if I really want to take accounts as collateral because it boosts scamming, by at the same time it seems to be a large part of collateral. What exactly are accounts worth, I would assume Newbies and Jr. Members are worth nothing?
Thank you
I was looking at providing BTC micro loans, and have noticed a lot of people provide account collateral. I can't seem to find a good solid list of how much accounts really are worth. I'm not sure if I really want to take accounts as collateral because it boosts scamming, by at the same time it seems to be a large part of collateral. What exactly are accounts worth, I would assume Newbies and Jr. Members are worth nothing?
Thank you
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