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Topic: Bitcoin Foundation: Where on Earth Did all the Money Go? - page 13. (Read 15421 times)

legendary
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If you want to hand-wave away early unsavoury behaviour, fine. Shady business dealings? Why not? I'm not a judge or jury. You associate with you you associate with. I'd sooner this lot of neckbeards for company, myself. And the 10 or so other board members, the ones BMB had to tell you about, do you know why they left?


So many incorrect assumptions it's no wonder there is so much misunderstanding.

1) I'm not hand waiving away past bad behavior. I'm shining a light on it - read the original post in this thread, I call out bad spending as ridiculous

2) agreed that who you associate with is important -- I'm not sure why the concept of someone being called in for a turnaround situation is hard to understand -- I do not and have no associated with the bad actors who made these bad decisions -- I've certainly never worked with any of them

3) 10 board members did not leave -- according to the article it was 10 regular members... out of 1500 (looking back at the old forum I doubt it was even that high) - yes, the reason they left appears to have been largely based on the same accusation in this thread that one board member was involved in a sex scandal -- this accusation was pretty much entirely debunked as unfounded -

Olivier Janssens
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Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:41 PM
I am also resigning as a lifetime member.  If the bitcoin foundation is to be taken seriously, they need to immediately remove Brock Pierce from the board and save face.  Brad, there are plenty more allegations than what you brought up.  There are active lawsuits on corporate fraud and child porn.  This is NOT the type of associations you want to have for Bitcoin, especially not with the MSM trying to pull every stunt in the book.

http://web.archive.o...rs-spanish-jail

-> The men fled to Spain where they were arrested by Spanish police who found "enormous amounts of child porn" at their villa.

Also, Spain is the only country in Europe where the legal age of consent is 13.  Do you want to take the risk that this was a coincidence?

If you still have doubts, maybe read this: http://privatewww.es...lecomplaint.pdf

Also, the bitcoin community thinks this: http://www.reddit.co...in_foundations/

I will even make a proposal.  It seems I should have joined as a platinum member a while ago to prevent something like this from happening.  If you commit to remove Brock Pierce from the board, I pledge to join as Platinum member and pay the $100k USD fee, within the next 24 hours.  I also urge you to update the bylaws to prevent people from joining if they are involved in ongoing lawsuits (of the nasty kind), or have ever been convicted for anything nasty.  Or if their image is potentially damaging for the foundation.

sr. member
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when he posted "i never did win any election"

it was like landing another planet



Smh.  A board appointment is not an election.  What sort of election has no election campaign or other candidates?   Have you heard of board appointments for companies called "elections"?  Are CEOs considered elected when a board appoints them?   We have several appointed committee chairs, are they considered elected?

It's simply not the accurate term to describe an appointment.   But if you wish to change a commonly accepted definition, that's fine,mite really not material.
sr. member
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If you want to hand-wave away early unsavoury behaviour, fine. Shady business dealings? Why not? I'm not a judge or jury. You associate with you you associate with. I'd sooner this lot of neckbeards for company, myself. And the 10 or so other board members, the ones BMB had to tell you about, do you know why they left?


So many incorrect assumptions it's no wonder there is so much misunderstanding.

1) I'm not hand waiving away past bad behavior. I'm shining a light on it - read the original post in this thread, I call out bad spending as ridiculous

2) agreed that who you associate with is important -- I'm not sure why the concept of someone being called in for a turnaround situation is hard to understand -- I do not and have no associated with the bad actors who made these bad decisions -- I've certainly never worked with any of them

3) 10 board members did not leave -- according to the article it was 10 regular members... out of 1500 (looking back at the old forum I doubt it was even that high) - yes, the reason they left appears to have been largely based on the same accusation in this thread that one board member was involved in a sex scandal -- this accusation was pretty much entirely debunked as unfounded -
vip
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The hilarious part is your stupidity and ability to blindingly twist overt and distort all facts

to achive more hookers n blow ahhh the drugs have fried ur brains so bad my friend

im sorry to say

Your poetry is amazing.  Is it Haiku?

Have ever you thought
Of climbing from your basement low
To recite your words from high?

Would you mind if I had some words framed for decoration in my office?

Dude, you're getting a hang of this satire thingy.  Grin
vip
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The tax filing?


Yes it's been posted since before most of this conversation.

http://bitcoinfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2014-990-FINAL.pdf

Is that what you were talking about?



If we're on the same page as to which post is in reference, then yes, that tax filing that I've yet to read through because I've been busy with on this brand new platform called Google. That site is fuckin' amazing! I wonder if I can speak to my dead grandparents via it.  Tongue
legendary
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If you think my Gleb post count is bad, you should the count on this.

To be clear, I've yet to scour the Internet pertaining to your name, opting to only search this forum for some info when I stumbled upon the post in question, but rest assured, Googling "Bruce Fenton" IS at the top of my list now that that the gauntlet has been thrown down (had to Google that phrase to make sure I was using it properly, with apologies for using Google's valuable resources).


So what exactly have I done that upsets you?

I'm not necessarily upset, but extremely taken aback as to how you're handling yourself in the heat of battle. You've been in this space long enough to know the lay of the land, and I'm sure others are pounding you a helluva lot harder than I, as the vinegar slash honey analogy comes to mind.

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could be difficult since I never did win any election

http://www.coindesk.com/bruce-fenton-bitcoin-foundation-executive-director/

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Veteran bitcoin activist Bruce Fenton has been named the Bitcoin Foundation's newest executive director.

Elected by a 5-to-1 vote, Fenton succeeds interim executive director Patrick Murck and outgoing executive director Jon Matonis, the latter of whom resigned on 30th October amid financial turmoil and ahead of staff cuts at the industry’s top trade organization.

My bad! I mistaken blue berries for blueberries. I'm not versed on how folks are voted for positions when they're not running for anything. Must just be a TBF thingy.

when he posted "i never did win any election"

it was like landing another planet

he has definately spend time in a mental institution

he obviously hopes he can secure more blow

before he is forced to take another long stint there

the term they like to call it is rehab
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000


a scamming drug adduct will never  get it he will just keep asking for more money

while talking complete bs and trying to work out ways of how to steal ur money

if u wont just hand it over


Who exactly did I scam?  Who did I steal from?  Who did I ask for money?  Any evidence?  Or just more random talk?

even a complete  optimist wouldnt have used the term random

and since their is nothing higher ur just continuing to

paint urself more and more as a lieing bs retard,  its like

we a giving u free therapy,,,,,,,,

we are giving u free therapy
sr. member
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Perhaps some spoken word performances are in order.

Curious, how is "ur" pronounced.  "Your" seems too obvious.  I think "errrr" is more original for the art scene, and as an added bonus, will also appeal to the pirate demographic.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Don't let anyone call you neckbeards. 

Smiley
sr. member
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The hilarious part is your stupidity and ability to blindingly twist overt and distort all facts

to achive more hookers n blow ahhh the drugs have fried ur brains so bad my friend

im sorry to say

Your poetry is amazing.  Is it Haiku?

Have ever you thought
Of climbing from your basement low
To recite your words from high?

Would you mind if I had some words framed for decoration in my office?
sr. member
Activity: 404
Merit: 250


The tax filing?


Yes it's been posted since before most of this conversation.

http://bitcoinfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2014-990-FINAL.pdf

Is that what you were talking about?

legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000


Bitcoin Jesus Motherfuckin' Christ!

Jim Harper is a current board member. Jim Harper was paid over $100K for services in 2014 from TBF's coffer.




Omg.  Not sure what is more hilarious, the number of factual inaccuracies you folks have or how certain you are of the truth of bad information.

Harper is not a board member.   He resigned as part of the board shakeup because he didn't see eye to eye with the other board members.

Harper was paid when he was not a board member by an Executive Director who is no longer there.   I never paid Harper anything.

See...this is the problem with wasting time with sarcasm.  

If you would have simply stated what your theory was, you could have gotten correct info.

The hilarious part is your stupidity and ability to blindingly twist overt and distort all facts

to achive more hookers n blow ahhh the drugs have fried ur brains so bad my friend

im sorry to say
vip
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145


Not searching your name a lot yet, but I will once I get time. I still need to read the tax filing I've been waiting a year for, seeing now that I had to wait three extra months due to Jody Tief (what, no H?) requesting an extension.


You mean the one I mentioned and linked to in this same thread which is also summarized in the original post?

The tax filing?
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000

We have an organization, or, at this point, no more than a name, name with tremendously embarrassing past it will never live down.
Now all we have to do is find something for it to do, a goal to fall embarrassingly short of, its raison d'etre, raise a bunch of money and...
Yeah, I know it seems a bit ass-backwards, but see, I'm the Grand Poobah now, and I wanna cash in on this thing, albeit I'm a bit late to the party.
I mean there's money here!


See -- you are incapable of actually stating something outright.  Weak efforts at sarcastic humor are your only resource because Logic will not work.

What you are basically saying above, and would come right out and say if you had integrity is:

1) I don't agree that a mission or should be made.  (Reason unspecified, presumably because the past is so bad that there is no purpose in attempting to fix something)
2) I accuse Fenton of attempting to enrich himself off of the foundation



You don't say that because

1) you don't have the integrity to, you'd rather resort to grade school style indirect accusations and

2) it doesn't hold up to logical scrutiny :  first, a mission or plan is a crucial foundation of any organization - second, I've never taken any money at all from the foundation (even though the last 3 Executive Directors were paid)


Easy to hide behind an anonymous name and sling mud on a chat board


1.) What I'm basically saying is what I did say. Nothing for you to add, riddle out or take away.
2.) You have a hammer, or, rater, a memory of a hammer -- the hammer's been pawned for hookers and blow.
Now you want us to buy you another hammer, so's you can come up with some shit to do with it. Which is totally not hookers and blow -- this time for sure Smiley

P.S. Your PR skillz are top-notch, ur super good with people Cheesy

u would think with his bizarre imagination he could just

pretend in his own mind he was having hookers n blow all

day, it would certainly be more beneficial for his mental state
legendary
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Just joining this fun thread. It's very entertaining. Lyrics are borrowed by ELO, well except for that one tiny misheard part that is...

You got me runnin goin out of my mind,
You got me thinkin that Im wastin my time.
Don't bring me down,no no no no no,
I'll tell you once more before I get off the floor
Don't bring me down.

You wanna stay out with your fancy friends.
Im tellin you it's go to be the end,
Don't bring me down,no no no no no no no no,
I'll tell you once more before I get off the floor
Don't bring me down.

Don't bring me down, Bruce
Don't bring me down, Bruce
Don't bring me down, Bruce
Don't bring me down.

sr. member
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Not searching your name a lot yet, but I will once I get time. I still need to read the tax filing I've been waiting a year for, seeing now that I had to wait three extra months due to Jody Tief (what, no H?) requesting an extension.


You mean the one I mentioned and linked to in this same thread which is also summarized in the original post?
legendary
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Satoshi Roundtable is a private Bitcoin and crypto retreat taking place Feb 6-8 at a private resort in the Caribbean.  Invitation only and limited to 60 attendees.


Lol.

"Ahh ha!  The dirt!  Satoshi Roundtable!"

Gleb, I wondered how you could have so many posts with such inane and worthless commentary but now I realize: you apparently just randomly roam around Google and post things that you somehow think are relevant or which prove some point....while never actually stating what that point or relevancy is.

Clearly you are scouring my name searching for some evidence that I'm a horrible person.   I'm sorry this is proving so difficult.

Keep looking, if you can't find some dirt you can just make something up.

 

Does this absolute retard have any idea how stupid he looks saying gleb

considering the content of wats being talked about, this is the

funniest sht ive ever seen,
vip
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he dosnt have any foundation yet to make those comments

because his entire being is troll and fud but im sure one of his

goals is to be able to use those comments in future posts


Bitcoin Talk:  I proudly present to you one of your "Legendary Members", the William Shakespeare of Bitcoin 


"He dosn't have any foundation yet to make those comments
Because his entire being is troll and fud but im sure one of his
Goals is to be able to use those comments in future posts.

Oh, how I wish to fuck thee one more time, my love."
legendary
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Of course you're right, civil settlements are not paid to "avoid investigation and indictment." They're paid to ___? (feel free to fill in the blank.



You should definitely tell the defense attorneys and especially criminal defendants this, they will be very glad for the news.  

The police and prosecutors might find the "avoiding investigations" part somewhat perplexing though --- also curious about little logistics like how someone even ends up in the magic court without any investigation being made (or wherever this magic deal is made) -- is it an honor system where people not yet accused just walk in and settle or do DAs offices randomly just grab people with no investigation and ask them to settle....that would suck...but perhaps it's overcome by the ability to "settle" and make things go away.

Also curious if this magic court is both civil and criminal....because, being the genius attorney you are you must know that criminal and civil courts are entirely separate and that the state, not people, bring criminal cases.

I give! How is it possible for a person who pens satire not comprehend it when it's penned by others?

because he is a lieing **** **** thats why
vip
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You claimed to have no knowledge of X.

A person links to a site outlining X.

The site containing X was very, very long, and would take the average person several minutes to read it if they dedicated 100% of their time in completing the task.

Within 10 minutes, not only did you read about X while reading and replying to other posts and threads on this forum, you typed (an act that took the least amount of time) your assessment about X, then posted it. X being ....

Somehow, you misconstrued as to what I was amazed about, with both of us now addressing this issue twice since I first presented my amazement, now taken back (translated: amazed) that you're at a lost as to what the fuck I'm talkin' 'bout. What's your qualifications again for being voted in the unpaid position you're enjoy at TBF, a voted-in position that you didn't run for?

Of course I knew of the accusations - I never said I didn't.  

I asked what you were referring to because I wanted to make sure....I thought that anyone in this industry with a basic internet connection would be well aware that the accusations were totally debunked....especially before making them again.   Guess not.

2 - So you consider a board appointment an "election"?   Interesting definition as I didn't have any opponents or campaign and no one voted other than the board.  I think the true answer is that you honestly didn't know-- you thought I was on the board and now are trying to move the goalposts (the other benefit of me waiting for you to specifically state your accusation about Brock before responding - had I said so first you would have no doubt backpedaled and claim it was some other accusation). As for qualifications - you've obviously searched my name a lot.



Not searching your name a lot yet, but I will once I get time. I still need to read the tax filing I've been waiting a year for, seeing now that I had to wait three extra months due to Jody Tief (what, no H?) requesting an extension.
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