Topic: Bitcoin futures and market price (Read 679 times)

Yes, bitcoin is being treated as electronic asset rather than electronic cash. Bitcoin futures contract had a good effect in December 2017 when bitcoin hit 20K but later there are so much manipulation in bitcoin futures market that bitcoin is unable to get fully stable on high prices and its struggle to finds its way up from 7K+ or so.

For me bitcoin price will most probably fall. If we think about how it works this days and many question has been raise if it could surpass FIAT and other way of payment where in it has being suppress by its different capability.

In my speculation bitcoin price won't reach back to its current high since it is understandable that the cryptocurrency market right now is struggling hard from a huge crisis. If this will continue then many altcoins will fall down again.

Crypto is goung to rock in the currency market. Everyday we do see new ICO is getting in with new projects that is going to certainly succeed in the market. Every project is succeeding in its projects listing on exchanges.The project do capture the market well. So Bitcoin will be very good in future, current price is not good. But in future surely the price will increase. The price goes down again this makes panic to invest in bitcoin.

addiction is always confusing, and everyone sees what they want to see. for example, everyone expects growth after the elimination of positions on CME, but it never coincided with reality

CME futures don't affect the price of bitcoin, bitcoin prices affect the CME markets. It's the inverse of how futures markets are supposed to work. In traditional futures markets, you are trading actual contracts that link directly to the price of the commodity. So if you buy a contract for 100 barrels of oil at $100 each that expires on December 1, on December first you are obligated to take delivery of the 100 barrels of oil. Ultimately what happens as a trader is you sell that contract to someone who actually wants to take the delivery of the oil because they're going to refine it. If the price of oil is below $100 on that date, you're going to be selling that contract at a loss. If it's above $100, you'll be selling that contract at a gain. But in either case, the contract is literally for 100 barrels of oil, and it is settled in the commodity itself (in this case oil), so the price of the futures market directly impacts the price of oil because oil supply is affected through buying selling of the futures contracts.

In bitcoin futures, the future is not linked to bitcoin. You never settle in bitcoin, you always settle in cash. So if you buy a contract for $6000 and the price closes at $7000 on the settlement date, you just get paid the $7000 and make $1000 profit and no bitcoin moves anywhere. If it settles at $5000, the you get the $5000 back but you're down $1000 because you paid $6000 for the contract. But because no bitcoin moves, the price the future contract settles at has zero impact on the price of bitcoin.

I believe that there is a bright future for cryptocurrency since there are a lot of people who keeps on investing today and make's the market price to pump even more.

The harder it is, the better the chance. Many people are still successful at this point. Maybe it does not go as fast as before. But it remains stable for those who know the timing. Will succeed and achieve the goal.

It can be said that 2018 feels bitter for investors, this is because the open war of haters who are afraid of the future of bitcoin, they do everything they can to kill bitcoin, but I am sure that the future of bitcoin cannot be stopped.

Bitcoin price is not stable one. So it time to increase and down. Bitcoin price is not easy to guess. So people check the market price every time. Last week price increased but now price is down. So people follow the price list.

addiction is always confusing, and everyone sees what they want to see. for example, everyone expects growth after the elimination of positions on CME, but it never coincided with reality

Things are changing very rapidly in the global market and there will be soon good news about the bitcoin usage. I mean recently I read the news that Indian central bank that is RBI is making changes with their previous decisions and may implement the use of crypto currency to digitalise their own currency. Thus bringing the digitalisation of their currency use.

If more such news kept coming in the future then bitcoin will be adopted a lot and soon there will be mass adoption of the same. :-)

This is going to be fun to watch as the bitcoin price will rise accordingly!!

I think the future will be a best future coz i believe that the bitcoin will be worldwide and the other country will accept the bitcoin with all their heart .

I think the futures are what driving the price to bear in my own opinion. I think and I have been saying this for a while, whales found the easiest way to make money ever thanks to futures. They just buy bitcoin when its low, when the time for the short futures to liquidate comes they sell all of their coins and that creates bitcoin fall in prices and when it drops they make money from the short futures so now they have more money, since bitcoin is low they go and get some more bitcoins which stops the fall and they get a lot of bitcoin again which creates a small increase in price as well, than they do this all over again and again and again.

Actually futures prices reflect expectations of traders about the future. In another words  futures prices show us approximate future prices of particular assets and no more. Do you think such information is useful for an analysis? Maybe but I am not sure. A futures is a very speculative asset so I am not sure whether it will be useful to make an analysis by analyzing futures, My opinion that a futures is useful for hedging and speculating and no more but if you are not a professional trader I would not recommend to you using futures in your trading because this kind of a financial asset is incredible dangerous.

20K expectant for this year is like a dream product. There must be something positive to rise to 20K. On the contrary, the level of difficulty of your mining has increased a lot. The miners may soon give up bitcoin digging. We need something positive.

Bitcoin might be in a bad shape at the present but according to many speculation its price might surpass its all time high and break to 20k$ mark this year or might be later.

Bitcoin futures will be much better than current, it is definitely true. Bitcoin market price is now somewhat lower at around 8000. But it is hoped that the price of bitcoin will soon increase and in the year 2020 it will exceed 30000 dollars.

The decline in the cryptocurrency market over the past few days is due to the maturity of the Bitcoin futures contract. In addition, by selling a large amount of Bitcoin and putting pressure on market prices, they have maximized profits in short positions in futures contracts. Capital inflows into the electronic money industry are limited due to lack of financial institutions.

i think the role of government is needed to maintain the development of bitcoin. with the policy from government, i am sure there will be many new investors who support it, because that will increase investor confidence

  My point of view Bitcoin is an electronic asset with the specific features such as a decentralized one, anonymous, its all transactions are recorded in an electronic ledger with block chain technology.Bitcoin has a strong network systems with the modern technology .Bitcoin has  just started its way from the bearish bottom to upwards the bullish level.Shortly the bitcoin market will move to a considerable level upwards. The future of bitcoin is very bright and promising since the vast majority  of the global community is going to utilize the different benefit of he bitcoin and hence its price can shoot up to any heights.

At 2009 BTC was very new to all and somebody trust and some are not. But at present time BTC is more popular to all and also for big investors. So i think BTC price can make a effect market of BTC. There is more fluctuation on BTC price in market at present time. I think if it goes lower fluctuation in price BTC investor will be more aggressive to invest here and future of BTC market can run with high speed.

Well i think BTC futures from CME and CBOE has some impact on bitcoin price, but its not as vast as the news related to legal status of BTC in different countries.

Bitcoin market price was purely dependent on the amount of money being circulating on the block chain. Meaning, demand dictates everything and it requires money to move the price. If everyone go to market and place order to exchange this was pushing the market to move the price up nut in reverse if someone place order to sell it decreases.

 We cant exactly  predict the price of BTC as fluctuations are very common in price of BTC.Bitcoin has a good future scope that is 100% sure but guessing the price is not possible.It basically depends on the number of investors.More will be the investors more will be the market value of BTC.No doubt it will become more popular in coming days.It will remain on top in future also.

remembering that in bitcoin mining there is a halving day cycle where rewards at each mine will be reduced by half every certain time interval and it will continue until there is no more bitcoin that can be produced then this will be one of the triggers of the rising market price of bitcoin in the future because of this affects the trade law of supply and demand

According to CME, payments are made on contracts and opening of new ones on September 4, which will be closed in November, which is expected to be very bullish, which means that before the opening of futures, the 4th one can break the pennant
September 19 - expiration of futures CBOE. According to the reports for August 29, the institu- tions are in shorts. But a strong red line of support now runs around 6000, so from there we bounce and go to the closing date of CME on September 28, which opened in April to 7000. Logical closing price: 8500. And finally we will break through the resistance of this large triangle.

August 31 will be an expiration of three-month contracts, which opened in June at a price of 6,400-6,700$. I believe that they opened in the long and therefore the price by August 31 should go above  7000$

In addition to digging Bitcoin, Bitcoin users may be able to trade Bitcoin with other currencies, goods, or services. Bitcoin is the most prevalent codename, first released, and widely used. most widely in e-commerce.  the price will increase

It will become a more economical investment one day and you will know about it.

I think bitcoin has a great future and the market price will up soon. Bitcoin is very known nowadays because this bitcoin is only exist in computer system and creates a big profit.Now itself bitcoin become more popular among the people. So many people are now invest in bitcoin. This makes market will be recover as soon.

Hey Guys, I think that there is direct correlation between Bitcoin Futures and Bitcoin market price. Since the start of trading of Bitcoin Futures in CME the Bitcoin market price has dropped significantly from 20k to 6k. However, market volatility is a fact of life. I'm still very optimistic that the bitcoin market price will soon rise.

bitcoin is unstoppable and for sure, its price will go up soon as the market will recover. There are certain times that bitcoin as it lowest price but probably, when market recovers, we will see how bitcoin surge. We cannot predict the price of bitcoin easily because it is a volatile asset.

Bitcoin future will become more popular in the worl and many countries will accept bitcoin. For the market price someday will be rise again yah it take time for that but we need to wait for it nd be positive it will back the normal.

The floor is $5k dollars and now it was stable at $6k dollars, just keep on holding today because the market price will soon to pump up again before the year ends.

It has clearly no direct impact on the market price and anything can clearly happen.

The market is gradually recovering and it needs time to do it. And in particular, it promises more opportunities for investors and the community to use electronic money. I think the next month will be stable again and the big holidays often have the signal from the market. Let's take a look very definitely very interesting.

Futures affect the price of the market greatly, but the stability of the market needs futures to stabilize, in fact, the price of futures and spot is complementary.

The market price will always depend on Bitcoin performance now in which Bitcoin will always create a domino epic to most of the Alrcoins since Jan 2018. Hopefully that the bullish run for Bitcoin will start now as we are stepping in for the 4th Quarter in which most of the predictions are expected to happen. Lets wait and see then.

CME futures is like a bet and its just a contract, they dont buying physical bitcoin. But CME Future opening door for big investor for buying bitcoin. Its bad for bitcoin right now but when ETF approval issued, i am believe it will good for bitcoin price

I think bitcoin will have a very bright and profitable future. Their are many factors present which support its future. First of all it is widely accepted as a investment purposes and this thing ultimately affects its future in a positive way. Many big multinational companies start using and investing in bitcoin. Many people use it for an  passive income. Although their is ups and downs in the price of bitcoin but it price will be increase again. It price is still comparable to gold

These two issues in the future and market prices certainly have a lot of fluctuations. Especially it will not stop there but will grow even more. If it is on the right track, its future is extremely good for those who grasp the opportunity.

the future for bitcoin is its hard to predict because some country will accept it or does'nt accepted. hoping for crypto will unite all the currencies all over the world of economy

Tracking positions on futures does not make sense, since they will appear on the market at the right time, to regulate the price of bitcoin. You can track the actual positions, but after a minute a new position may appear, in conditionally unlimited quantities for the purchase or sale of bitcoin.

I think In future the world is full of digital currency. Cause now itself bitcoin become more popular among the people. So many people are now invest in bitcoin. And the price in the market we can’t predict what will be the price exactly but we can tell when the price is about to go up

Yeah, the two are not directly related because the futures contract is basically just a collection of all of the guesses of what traders think the price will be at a given date. It's like a collective bet on the price of something when the paper expires.

Futures are basically just created out of thin air. This is why some people despise financial markets, speculation and any kind of trading. They think that we shouldn't be placing money on something that the contract writers (exchanges, banks) have no physical asset for or no effort to fulfill. They just collect money and then hand it out to those who were on the right side of the market at that time.

There is good potential for the price of bitcoins to go higher so it is better to invest early than later. Now is the right time to buy bitcoins as the market is dip now when the prices start to recover then there will be  a huge rally up and the financial advisors are of the opinion that the price of bitcoins will cross $ 50000 USD soon as the price of bitcoins started to move up. Bitcoins will always dominate the crypto currency market in terms of price and everything as there is more number of bitcoins users and more demand for bitcoins with limited supply of bitcoins.

I think, whales are still a big problem for bitcoin. they can manipulate the price at will, because bitcoin has no currency strength, so the price can still be manipulated. simply, the whales will buy a lot of bitcoin to make the price go up, and then sell them all to keep the price down. investors and traders are just a fraction of bitcoins.

I agree gan hopefully next year bitcoin prices can go up.

Short positions continue to dominate the futures market.
I'm waiting for the depreciation towards the end of August.

Today, the correlation between the closing of futures and the movement of bitcoin prices is clearly visible. We are waiting for the previous report, but now we can assume that the opening of monthly futures was sent to Long

We can’t predict what will be the price exactly but we can tell when the price is about to go up. I was even surprised today when I saw that the price has already reached a price rate of $8000. And from what I’m seeing I believe that the price will still go up and it might continue to go up from now till this year ends. We don’t know exactly what price it will be by the end of this year, it can be anything at all. So anyone can invest and have patience till they make profit.

I think the future of bitcoin will be bright considering that this cryptocurrency has a fantastic price movement at the end of last year and I think the movement will continue to repeat at the end of each year in the future, as well as the market price will move straight with the interested ones

No one will never know what will be bitcoin future but for me bitcoin will have a huge value in the market. You should wait until bitcoin will have a good future and stay to invest with bitcoin. For now, bitcoin is increasing little by little but it dumps sometimes. The bitcoin is already volatile in the market but for now we will wait until bitcoin will go to the moon.

From what i know, bitcoin on CME futures is just a contract paper and not holding real bitcoin. The different thing buying bitcoin on exchanger is we can store that bitcoin on our wallet but not with CME Futures because CME futures is just a contract

I think Bitcoin futures and market price have some interactions in the future because as more and more people invest and pay attention to bitcoin, the original market will be changed to some extent.

The pessimistic forecast says that the rate will be in the region of $ 3000- $ 6000 per coin of BTC. The main reason pessimists have is that the Bitcoins are outlawed and that their cost is artificially inflated. They are sure that governments will never legalize the currency with such prospects.

Crypto market will soon move out of its dip state and bitcoin rate will increase, so as more as bitcoin increases is more its influence on other coins . When bitcoin increases, other crypto currencies to will increase so the future of bitcoin and crypto currencies market price is bright

On the account of popularity Bitcoin I do not agree, the peak of popularity I think was 2017, for the last half of the year even in search queries the word "Bitcoin" fell by 75%.
It's a pity, but no one wants to promote BTC, investors would love to ride on a rocker.

In future the world is full of digital currency only. Now itself bitcoin become more popular among the people. So many people are now invest in bitcoin. This makes market will be recover as soon. Bitcoin has a bright future so right now invest in bitcoin and hold it for future.The price of bitcoin will have tremendous growth. Because now the price is slighlty increasing so in future the price will be increase massively.

I think bitcoin will be famous all over the world also as you can see many people use to have a bitcoin account and know how to use cryptocurrency also in other website like facebook and twitter there's a lot of bitcoin sharing. Also when we say market pricing we can use bitcoin to buy. Also the bitcoin features has a huge  impacts to the people who use to do the bitcoin. I think everyone wil accept this in future. Right now bitcoin is increasing simultaneously and growing longer and longer. In the near future i guess bitcoin will be permanent and can be use all over the world.
Because right now otjer countries has does not legally open the bitcoin. But most of the countries has used to do the bitcoin

Bitcoin is very known nowadays because this bitcoin is only exist in computer system and creates a big profit and value than we never expected value that is why people are very interested to do mining for bitcoin and after that they sell it into a big value that is why current fiat moneys are more cheap compare to bitcoin which triple or quadruple its value of fiat money.

it's the awesome question.I think bitcoin cryptocurrency is the online real coin and all coin king.I hope bitcoin future awesome.it's price at a time not value but now bitcoin price high level. now bitcoin market price $7701.I think this year bitcoin price high level up.so bitcoin is the future any people life.

I guess OP is just promoting this one and not really intention to ask for explanation but either way i would say that the price of bitcoin cant be affected  by those simple issue and i still says that the future price of bitcoin relies in every individual to trust this good coin and believe that future profit will turn them to become richer.

in my opinion is still a long reach bitcoin market, because in my opinion bitcoin has a big company, hence from that can prolong the time.

Many institutional investors are wise to use the futures contracts to lower the Bitcoin price to buy in lower by setting the stop-loss triggers at support levels to push down the price further and further to make it look like a crash.

I believe bitcoin price and whatever we see now is a direct opposite of what it is intended for. Bitcoin, from the little I have read and heard about it was supposed to be an alternative to fiat currency. But it has turned to a commodity of highly unpredictable value.

Bitcoin price in the market will have a better improvement in the future,because there's so many people still trust bitcoin,and it will live long lasts,many people benifited of bitcoin eversince.

I think bitcoin has some uniqueness that will last forever and its price will not move based on other's value at all.

There is no market for Bitcoin. The coins of the coins get out of the market. But this future depends on the bitcoin. Such as BTC, Ether etc.

hopefully the things you say can be fulfilled. many people are also hoping that bitcoin can succeed the investors in the life to come, because bitcoin digital money is certainly very profitable for its users.

I think there is a big relationship between the red market and futures in the last few months, and some big exchanges have set up a stock exchange, which will help to increase the panic when the market is FUD.

bitcoin is a very lucrative investment and promising at the moment even bitcoin remains the mainstay of other investors because the transactions are digital and the news has improved greatly, and hopefully bitcoin is the hope of success of the investors in various parts of the world.

Unlike commodities that has it market price and future contract go hand in hand as hedging instruments, I think Bitcoin future is just luck and some sort of gambling. Is just a prediction one makes to see how the bitcoin price will be at end of contract expiration.

Bitcoin continues from the very beginning to the present, with great success.In a very short time, Bitcoin has won the mind of the people.Besides, the use of Bitcoin is increasing day by day.Bitcoin prices are very good in the market.I think Bitcoin will live for years in the world.Bitcoin prices will increase in the future and will achieve many successes.

For me we don't know if there is something behind on bitcoin,it's price has no fixed value because of the buy/sell demand on the market,all we know that bitcoin is a profitable currency and many uses in the crypto community.

I think Bitciin will have no direct impact on market price. Someday , bitcoin will be economically stable so its high time people start buying the coin.

I think someday bitcoin will be more economically investment.More people will be interest to buy bit coin.

I think did you mean Cashme (CME) is not a coin so we do not predict the future possibilities of this technology but you should check the road map of this platform. Because many shit coins are day by day enter into the crypto market. But Bitcoin growth is always stable this coin is leading the all other altcoins so Bitcoin is forever cryptocurrency it will never drop or failed in the market.

Bitcoin futures have no direct impact on bitcoin's own markets as they are two separate entities and one is existing on a privately-managed platform while the other is a free market where everyone can join. Buying in to these futures doesn't mean you are buying actual bitcoin; you are just getting into a contract with the firm you wished to deal with. Traders of bitcoin, on the other hand, may or may not use the futures on their advantage or do some kind of hype surrounding it. As for your last question, idk if it's possible to keep track of such.

Hey guys , i have been posting for a while now in altcoin forums but this is my first post in Bitcoin forum.
I am trying to understand the relation between the CME futures expiration and the price of Bitcoin in the market , is there any way to track the amount of futures going in long or short ?