Topic: Bitcoin International Pension Fund (Read 1548 times)

Thanks Martin!

If you are not looking for funding right now and just want to discuss the project and your ideas, the Project Development board might be a more suitable place to post. The forum also has a Russian section, which may be of interest to you.

This forum Recommend me my friends. They said that this forum is international and you can discuss the idea.
Here, no one asked about the project.
Everyone needs some kind of guarantee that I am not a thief.
I'm not asking you for money.
I'm not a thief!
I do not understand the format of the forum.

Then why are you posting in the "Lending/Long-term offers" if you do not need funding? Shouldnt you be posting in a different part of the forum to discuss about this project instead?

You're right, you have nothing to prove to me, but to everyone in this thread, forum, and possibly whoever you interact with regarding this project.

The difference between you and me (and possibly others) is i never came for bitcoins or have a questionable project. I talk to family, friends, potential clients, explaining what I am doing, the risk, the rewards, answer questions DIRECTLY. If i need funding, come out of pocket as much as I can, go to the bank with the business plan, pitch deck, etc., and get a loan, and as it grows, get funds from family/friends, then investors. I work with my team and investors, providing documents, statements, records, etc., about whats being done to ensure them that their investment is being put to good use. You on the other hand have a questionable project, you are asked questions from members here and each time you reply, there is no answer or an indirect answer. If your project kicks off and somehow succeed, then congrats, but I wont sit here regretting anything, and im sure many others here wont regret anything either.

However, this is my last post in this topic because I dont need to argue with anyone.

Good luck though!

I'm not asking you for money.
I myself finance their project.
I have nothing to prove to you.
I can not build a reputation in a single day.
Over time, the project will continue to grow and gather confidence.
Before you judge me, try it yourself to create a project from scratch and prove that you're not a thief.
In fact, there is presumption of innocence.

Still not relevant to the questions being asked. Since you want to speak about reputation, you are a new user here on this forum, who do not have any rep, any trust, seeking funds for a questionable project. How do you expect anyone to fund you, from public users, to even private investment firms, if you dont answer questions being asked? Now since you want to speak about other projects, MT.Gox was a partial failure on their end. A completely different company who was popular (dont quote me on that), but fail after things started going down hill. DAO never really fail. They opt to dissolve the project to protect the interest of those who invested due to the how the DAO was setup (which resulted in someone stealing eth). I cant speak for MTGox but DAO wasnt a scam. If there is ever an opportunity in this project youre creating, you MUST be transparent with those youre seeking funds from. Right now, youre indirectly answering questions, and thats what tells people that this will likely be a scam. No transparency, no answers, questionable project. If you must, just seek a business loan from a bank or a private firm, just not from us.

It is a matter of reputation.
No one can guarantee that 1btc tomorrow will cost $ 0.1 or $ 1,000,000...
Also, no one expected that MTGox, DAO, NEXT will be scams.
People are not looking at the essence of the project and are seeking guarantees that no one can provide.
In this world there are no guarantees, there are only opportunities.

That is not relevant to any of the questions you were asked.

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What do you think of it?
And what is being done?

Saying people trust you doesnt mean you are trustworthy. One thing for sure is how do we know you wont run off with any btc put towards this? Secondly, do you have any reinsurance that in the event of default (or if things fail) that those who put btc into the project will get their btc back? There is probably more questions than what I just ask.

Of that we have just your word.

What kind of guarantee do you offer?

Where is this team exactly that you speak of? Why come here instead of going to an investment firm that deals with bitcoin and blockchain technology? If investors of firms back this project, put something out there to the public about this project, how it suppose to work for everyone, then you might be get some luck. People wont just invest just like that, and I still have yet to see how this will benefit users.

Yeah why would anyone invest their pension retirement money with you, that may be one of the stupidest decisions of one's entire life.

This is entirely pure of shit, you can ran away with the money.

OP, you still have not answered this question.

Software Audits would only show you stole the coins - it wouldn't stop you from stealing them.

Just wondering but why would you have charity in your pension fund.  If its being donated to charity than its no longer your money; just seems a bit weird since you don't invest in charity lol

That alone is not sufficient to prevent you from running with the money.

You have made many claims but have yet to explain how this would work on a technical level.

I wouldnt trust this at all. Anyone who want some type of pension for long term savings should create a wallet, buy bitcoins and store it in the wallet over time. You on the other hand havent even provided the business location. You also state anyone in the world but lets be realistic here, not everyone is going to just jump on board this idea, if anyone does at all. To high of a risk, to many questions that havent been answered, and simply not worth the time and money. If this was more realistic, with a detail business plan, milestones, identification that can be verified, and some type of guarantee that you wont take the investments and disappear, then it might be an idea worth trying to invest into, but right now youre a new user who goes by "Alexander Min" which could tell me and possibly others youre using someone else name, and that you're likely to defraud anyone who invest into this idea. Just my two cents. Best of luck to you though!

Don't people basically do this themselves by creating a bitcoin wallet and putting some into it regularly? What is different about this idea other than people give bitcoin to you, having to trust you that you don't simply take their investment and run?

Who guarantees you do not run away with our money? It s a long term investment, there needs to be a very strong guarantee.

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