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December 10, 2016, 06:57:10 AM
#5
Does mining bitcoins from a device consume a lot of electricity when left online?

This is a weird and partly incomplete question

1) it's allmost impossible to mine when you're offline... Theoretically, you could mine a block using pen and paper, but in reality, it's next to impossible to do so
2) you could theoretically mine using a raspberry pi using a couple of watts, or use your cellphone... Only on average it'll take several thousands of years to find a block.... If you want to have a decent chance, you'll need to buy an ASIC, and those things do use a lot of enegery

Here are two lists of devices you could mine with, with an indication of their power usage;
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Non-specialized_hardware_comparison

This being said, unless you have really, really, really cheap electricity, you could only make a little profit using the very latest gear.

EDIT: just to prove it's a bad idear to mine with your phone or a rPi, i calculated how long it would take with a cortex-A9 (common cellphone CPU)
http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=0.00057&p=0.5&pc=0.01&pf=1&d=286765766820.55000000&r=12.50000000&er=770.69000000&hc=0.00

At current diff, on average, it would take you 68.518.161 years (YES, that's 68,5 MILLION years) to find a 12.5BTC block (only, by the time you'll find a block, there probably will only be fees, the block reward will be 0).
Next to this, even when using allmost free power (1cent/Kwu), you'll still burn 4 cents/year in power * 68 million = 2.7 million USD. And you'll probably have to replace your phone several million times Wink

This theoretical example was made with current diff, block reward and btc price... These things will change over time, so my calculation will not be correct (it'll probably be way to optimistic)

That's some detailed calculation on an inefficient device for mining. Yes, the calculation did not include halving and the increasing prices of power. But good illustration regards using a phone.

To continue OP's question. If I would buy an ASIC S9 right now and mine 24/7 how much electricity am I look at? I live in a tropical country so I think I would also need cooling, but if it's only one miner will I need cooling?
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December 09, 2016, 08:59:50 AM
#4
Does mining bitcoins from a device consume a lot of electricity when left online?

mocacinno already said the best answer regarding on your question and also if you are referring to mine bitcoin you should really left it online and operating 24/7 so that you will be profitable but still it depends on which miner you do use because each miners does have corresponding electricity consumption but majority will surely expense you a lot when it terms of electricity.
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December 08, 2016, 11:30:56 AM
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Which device? Mining costs a lot of electricity depending where you live and what equipment you will use to mine.

To make it worth, you will need to use the Asic S9 now, and it will spend a lot of electricity... Probably it won't worth for you. If you are talking about other devices like cell phone or weak computer, laptop you won't make any profit with that.
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December 08, 2016, 04:22:21 AM
#2
Does mining bitcoins from a device consume a lot of electricity when left online?

This is a weird and partly incomplete question

1) it's allmost impossible to mine when you're offline... Theoretically, you could mine a block using pen and paper, but in reality, it's next to impossible to do so
2) you could theoretically mine using a raspberry pi using a couple of watts, or use your cellphone... Only on average it'll take several thousands of years to find a block.... If you want to have a decent chance, you'll need to buy an ASIC, and those things do use a lot of enegery

Here are two lists of devices you could mine with, with an indication of their power usage;
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Non-specialized_hardware_comparison

This being said, unless you have really, really, really cheap electricity, you could only make a little profit using the very latest gear.

EDIT: just to prove it's a bad idear to mine with your phone or a rPi, i calculated how long it would take with a cortex-A9 (common cellphone CPU)
http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=0.00057&p=0.5&pc=0.01&pf=1&d=286765766820.55000000&r=12.50000000&er=770.69000000&hc=0.00

At current diff, on average, it would take you 68.518.161 years (YES, that's 68,5 MILLION years) to find a 12.5BTC block (only, by the time you'll find a block, there probably will only be fees, the block reward will be 0).
Next to this, even when using allmost free power (1cent/Kwu), you'll still burn 4 cents/year in power * 68 million = 2.7 million USD. And you'll probably have to replace your phone several million times Wink

This theoretical example was made with current diff, block reward and btc price... These things will change over time, so my calculation will not be correct (it'll probably be way to optimistic)
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December 08, 2016, 04:15:32 AM
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Does mining bitcoins from a device consume a lot of electricity when left online?
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