Topic: BITCOIN NEED NEW MONEY AS MUCH AS HALVING TO SEE SUSTAINED HIGH PRICES (Read 390 times)

Price spikes, of course, really depend on new money coming in, as long as there is no new money, the price will be like it is today, the thing that makes us wary is that many transactions go out of private wallets to exchanges and usually this will make bitcoin decline, we'll see if the year 2024 can jump or not, otherwise of course the future will be even more difficult.

I'm not sure what stable coins that you are referring though, perhaps it was USDT because I read that it has been de-pegging to US dollar?

However, if we are talking about where the money will come in the next bull run. It's hard to say though, just like in the last bull run wherein we also don't know where is the source until we see a lot of institutions and big companies and even a country like El Salvador is pushing it to a new all time.

So I believed that in the next bull run it will be the same, another source will come in that has a lot of money then invest it on bitcoin's bull run. But it's hard to anticipated where and who it is right now.

The price contradicts expectations. About 3 years ago, everyone was expecting that the price would break the $100,000 level, and even some were optimistic when the price was around $70,000, but no one sold. Now, the same speculations return, as everyone expects this increase. Always try to You set pessimistic expectations as your limits for selling. In the worst case, some expect that we will get a price higher than 68,000, and in the best case, the price will be 250,000.

This is definitely the way to start the bull run without a doubt. Of course we would need new people and some new money, but first to start that bull run we need people who was already at the bitcoin world and then got out, that would be a lot better without a doubt.

If you could bring back all those billions and billions of dollars back to the market and make them buy bitcoin then you are going to see bitcoin price increase insanely high and you will make a lot of money from it without a doubt. I get that it will not be that simple, but it's not going to be that weird neither. I hope that it gets to a point where we can see the situation growing better. Get old timers back, and you will start a big bull run, that's what I think.

For a long time there has been rumors and accusations that stable coins did not had a one to one backing as they stated, and for a lot of time those circumstances were ignored by the community, however now that governments seem to want to release their CBDCs then they cannot ignore stable coins and they will make use of this Achilles heel in order to try to bring them down, and I think they will succeed on destroying a few of those coins at some point on the future.

The issue that many stable coin projects are not supported by real money make a lot of panic, many people are worried that if this issue is true it will make the market difficult to rise, of course we need new money to be able to make an increase, the ease given by many exchanges for deposits from credit cards makes We must be optimistic that New Money comes soon.

You analysis is very correct. One other factor that you should consider is that the publicity Bitcoin have now is like never before. Bitcoin have successfully made it to the heart of many people and the potential/promises it holds are unparalleled. Remember that people buy the news... so as the news of the having and the cycle begin to spread, people will start buying and when everyone is doing that, price have no choice than to rise.

The mystery behind this is something that is hard to explain but to my understanding I felt bitcoin usually attracts more attention from various angle that makes investors to draw more attention to invest with the mindset that there would be a turnaround in price. From the news all over, people don't usually wait for the halving to take effects but I believe funds are being stocked on usdt and any other stablecoin waiting for the halving. There is always money, what just happened is news maybe since most people already predicted for price to touched $100k, while others said $200k the speculation is what drag attention whereby people may feels like not missing the good chance which may possibly lead to buy and at the cost of buying prices began to increase the more people troop in the  market to make sure they involved themselves with bitcoin before it touches $200k.


You are right, there is no possibility to shows something positive could like happened but investors are only being optimistic about the price.

There is one fact, which is that the price rises within 24 months of any halving, and this rise may break the OLD ATH. Accordingly, it is believed that during each Bitcoin cycle (4 years), the price reaches a new peak and returns to a bottom that represents more than 50% of the previous peak, based on this The price of bitcoin will break the top of $72,000 during the year 2024 or 2025, before returning to such levels or less than them.

So don't expect much before 2024.

Yeah, as much as bitcoin has cycle, old and new members as well are going into the market specially in the bull run. It's just a question of timing for this smart and young investors when they want to come. But for sure, they are all for the love of making money so most likely moving forward they are going to slowly come in and reinvest.


That is the hard lessons here, when everyone thought it's easy money here, then they are all wrong. Investing in bitcoin is very different from traditional assets like stocks. Here you have to wait for 4 years before you can see some profits in your wallet.

If a person turns to cryptocurrency again, they are unlikely to buy expensive bitcoin. Only newbies will buy expensive bitcoin, who do not yet realize that the price of bitcoin has already increased so much that it will be difficult to sell it at that price. This is why new money is better than old money

I think old money coming back in could be the running method for us at the moment. There was a lot of money in the bitcoin world that got out, most of it found its way to stablecoins, a lot of it also went back to bank accounts as well. We do not need fresh capital alone, that would be lovely of course if it happens but also we need to have all those people who left crypto to come back and invest again. That would make it a lot more possible and profitable without a doubt.

Basically it is not that easy but it should be possible and could make it work a lot better as well. I hope that it gets to a point where we could see how profitable it is to just get back in after leaving and those people will do that in order to increase the price.

But not all of those bitcoins are still transferable as there is always a chance that some of them will lose access to the wallet and the bitcoins you see can no longer be sold. Just curious, but how many whale purses did you see?

Everyone seems to have been waiting for that momentum and I'm sure most of the investors will be taking profits in that area later. Of course a few things will prevent bitcoin from reaching new ATHs especially from a fear point of view of new investors who may lose millions of dollars on this investment, but trading will not be around them forever.

Don't forget there are thousands of sleeping bitcoin in wallets that are supposed to belong to whales. These wallets have tendency to shake the whole crypto market with just moment.

As far as halving s concerned, everyone is looking at it as the next main event which will take Bitcoin to next ATH. The reason for this believe is the historical data that says after every halving Bitcoin price goes up.

Those people who will join later on are people who will wait for the increase to start and we all know this because it has happened a lot before. When the price starts to go up, we start to face something that is a lot better and we are going to end up with a greater return without a doubt.

I know that people will face a situation where it is going to take a while, but as long as it is going to end up with a bad situation, they are not going to be here. They first need to see the price going up, when that happens they are going to end up being happy about it and they are going to end up seeing it grow even bigger. I know that it is going to take some time, but as long as we could do it, we should not really be worried about it at all.

The concern is not only about getting the price to rise but about sustaining such high prices in terms of liquidity. Bitcoin halving has the tendency to cause a surge in price but will a little panic selling when people will be taking profit not deplete the gains? With influx of fresh capital, there will be more liquidity to support Bitcoin even at higher prices. This is why new money is as important as the halving. In other words, why halving will provide the fundamental for the price rice, new capital will create the liquidity to sustain such price.

This is the part to the future we crave for Bitcoin. If each one of us continue educating and encouraging people even from our local communities, I am sure we will, with time, create the awareness and wider use for Bitcoin

Every investments in this form needs money to sustain it's price or it needs MORE money to continue and sustain the increase. However, new investors or fresh capital (if that's what you mean it) may not be the only reason we're looking at to make the bull run possible because the old ones are actually adding more money to fill their bags.  So, either of both contributes to the growth of bitcoin and it's value. But yeah, bitcoin needs more investors if people around here are very optimistic about the 6 digit figure some even said millions. As we all can see, more and more businesses and countries starts recognizing bitcoin and accepting them as a means of payments or service, that's one way we get more people to pour money into bitcoin. I'm expecting more adoption if more people understands how bitcoin works and how essential the use case is. 

Yes, I agree with your opinion. Because halving alone will not be enough to bring the bitcoin price to a new ATH, or reach a price of $ 100k in 2024-2025. So it is certain that new money that enters the circulation of the bitcoin market will have a big effect on the increase in the price of bitcoin in 2024-2025. So the point is not just a matter of halving to make the price of bitcoin soar, but what must not be forgotten, is the matter of the cohesiveness of bitcoin investors in adding/buying their bitcoin assets.

In my opinion, all of that can happen, indeed because of the halving cycle. So people who already know about this cycle, especially bitcoin investors, will definitely flock to buy bitcoin and hold their bitcoin assets until the bitcoin price soars. The point is people who already know about this bitcoin halving, psychologically will definitely buy bitcoin when the bitcoin halving will occur.

For example like this year. This year is the year every bitcoin investor starts buying and starts holding or hoarding their bitcoin assets for the upcoming halving. That way, if more and more bitcoin investors start hoarding their assets, it will definitely cause a higher price increase.
So basically, what causes new money to enter the circulation of the bitcoin market and causes the price of bitcoin to rise, is the habits of bitcoin investors.

That's the reality, but till date close to the days of halving fresh money used to get pumped in. When there is sign of bullish market, more money gets into the market. This time the entire world is facing hard inflation and the same could keep the people fail from pumping more money into the market. Earlier the involvement of institutional investors and the whales used to be high. These days it is quite rare to see such information. In the past the Whales just try to manipulate and have control and the same lets them invest more. Now things have changed and they weren't able to have control over the market. Lets see what happens getting near to the days of halving.

There is some truth to this...but the problem is that there is actually more money leaving crypto than what's being pumped in, which means without any excess capital coming in bitcoins value won't be sustainable
enough for it to pump!
Even with the bitcoin halving around the corner,  this definitely won't be enough ,as the crypto markets work like a tyre..if the tyre is deflated and you put pressure in, without any puncture or holes it will hold the pressure and be inflated, but should this have a hole somewhere..nomatter how much pressure you put into such a tyre,  it can never be filled up..so as long as we have crypto users always taking out their profits and never hodling we are guaranteed that crypto market's will take forever to grow!

When bitcoin is in a bullish trend, of course the altcoin market will follow suit. So far, the price of bitcoin has always influenced the price of altcoins, of course this correlation seems natural considering that bitcoin and investor confidence in it can be used as a benchmark for the future potential of cryptocurrency.

Investors may be patient and waiting for the right time to invest their money in bitcoin, but some of them seem to have stepped in since last year when bitcoin was still under $20k. If they expect the bitcoin price to drop lower than $20k this year then I think they will just regret the decision because I don't think the bitcoin price will correct that low again.

It's true, Bitcoin has never had to do anything to attract the money that has been poured into it, it was the initial progress that was required and as soon as it got it, it started spreading so widely that we have reached the position where almost half or maybe more than a half of the whole world already knows about Bitcoin and what it is, there are millions of people trading Bitcoin on a daily basis where the quantity wasn't even in thousands at the beginning.

So the name and popularity that Bitcoin has got is all because of how unique and useful it is for its users, and that along with its attractive value that keeps changing over time is attracting even more demand as we get into the future. This halving, we will surely see a lot of new money coming in.

I also ask myself about that specially in the last bull run. But it was answered like institutions putting their money on the market, and then we have government like El Salvador who uses it as legal tender or even as national reserves in my opinion.

So it might be the same, but this time it will be bigger than the last time and that's why we are going to sustain another bull run to $100k or more. Meaning there could be institutions, and then if ever we get a Blackrock approval then we can smell Wall street money pouring into our ecosystem.

Of course there are money bags that are going to come in just before the halving. They are probably waiting for the late minutes to DCA in expectation to ride the halving bull and this has been the tradition of bitcoin whales. They want to jump in late hours and cause the market to change directional flow. This will also affect the altcoins market as well. I remember the last halving, some altcoins took that moment to ATH.

Is new money required to sustain such an explosive price? I'm not sure I understand your point. Do you imply that inviting investors to invest in bitcoin will keep the price from skyrocketing?
The optimism that people have about bitcoin reaching another ATH of $100K in the next halving by 2024 should not be fully relied on; these are all speculations based on the nature of the market since bitcoin's inception and how its price reacts after each halving.


Bitcoin's price increases with or without halving, though not as dramatically as it does after halving. The price of bitcoin is heavily influenced by market developments. New bitcoin investors will almost certainly increase demand for bitcoin, which will eventually affect the price of bitcoin. I don't see any need for bitcoin to be seek for sustainability outside now; it can function and be sustainable as it did before many investors got involved.

You don't need to worry yourself about new money coming into crypto, there is a reason why now is the best time to keep buying Bitcoin instead of hoping that new money comes in to pump your bag, there are many big players in this space and they know how money moves in and out of crypto, it's bigger than you can imagine.

Bear market is where you want to keep buying Bitcoin and Bull market is where you reap your profit, new money will get into the market before the bull market starts, as a newbie do not let this bother your mind, the charts don't lie and they exists for a reason.

Judging from the US people I knew who put all their relief money into crypto, you're probably right (I'll conveniently ignore that they used it for Bitcoin buys but only to later on exchange for shitcoins and gambling). I shouldn't generalise since I meet only the audience of my Bitcoin haunts online

And yes, people still forget new coins being pushed out daily. It's still going to be significant for a couple more halvings at the very least. But it's so inconvenient to count all that huh.

Actually, the news of a bullish market inject new money into Bitcoin. This have been consistent with all the bullish cycle we have seen so far. The only area I was referring to is if the high prices achieved as a result of events like halving will last long and people will not dump and the price crash. I know people will take profit but if we can get to a point where such profit taking will not deplete over 50% of the gains, then true believers of Bitcoin will all be handsomely rewarded.

Do not worry about the fresh money to be injected into the Bitcoin. People are always willing to invest in Bitcoin provided they know that we are in a bull market. As soon as the halving comes nearby we will see the pre-halving pump and then the post-halving bull market.

Even when the price will reach the all-time high many people will still jump into the bitcoin so I am not worried about the money floating into the bitcoin in the next bull season.

Isn't halving an event that will attract new money in itself? Why are we looking for other reasons? Halving is the reason behind the expectation of many people here. Just as we think in this way, institutions or companies that will invest big money also think in this way. So Bitcoin doesn't need to do anything to withdraw the money. Those who follow the stages of Bitcoin will already bring their money.

At the same time, in the period between Bitcoin's bear and bull periods, many different investing institutions or companies begin to prefer to shift their investments to Bitcoin as the bull run approaches. Considering that the expectation is a new ATH every bull season, Bitcoin does not need to do anything to attract the money.

The time of the halving is what makes the bitcoin market more interesting than before. That’s when all this money you’re hoping for that will come into the market will set in. Since the hype will be there and people will want to be part of the beneficiaries of bull run. There’ll be a lot of demand and on the other end a big surge in prices of bitcoin.

There will always be a flow of money in and out of the market - it will always give the impression that every trader will be taking profits in the market. Miners will have to sell their bitcoin holdings to cover the running fees of mining - but I think they will consider holding most of it rather than sending the market crashing into a panic.

Of course the market needs a lot of money flowing to make the bitcoin price go higher - but I don't think it will happen overnight. Prices will gradually increase as interest grows among new adopters and investors - but it will take time and patience.

I highly agree that new money is need to be injected to the market to be able for Bitcoin to reach a new high.  If there is now money coming in on the Bitcoin market, we can only see BTC slowly declining in price because of the continuous influx of new mined coins.

Bitcoin market needs really new capital, reason why there is a need for a consistent adoption to maintain the price range.  Hype can help to convince people who already invested on Bitcoin to pour more money but it is not sustainable because one way or another these people are going to cash out for profit.


A massive adoption either by individual or institution can be the source of the new funds needed for Bitcoin surge.  This is also one of the reason why developers or holders that invested a huge amount of money integrate Bitcoin in their business, create apps and promote Bitcoin so that Bitcoin will have newcomers to inject fund in the Bitcoin market creating demand pressure.

Bitcoin is not minted the way fiat was, you can't expect using money to print in new notes in fiat to be the way bitcoin is being created or valued, mining is the process, volatility is the requirements, demand ad supply is the means.

How could you have come about this conclusion, I don't know where you've got this your own idea from.


Halving is not a small reason by any means here, it's very important to depend on this until the entire 210,000 blocks were mined, while demand and supply remain constant for it volatility and market value

Asking as a miner, how the hell do we do this because if you know the way we're going to pump it right now!


From the recession bruh!
The bankrupt companies, the people who lost their jobs and savings, the banks with no money, the investors left penniless from the stock market crash, the war refugees who fled with their families and two pairs of socks, all of them will throw their money at bitcoin. 

Anyhow, people should not forget that even after the halving if the price will be 100k per coin you will need money invested daily to offset the mined coins. Last 24h it was $31,294,399.12 , with coins at 100k and half the reward as how you would still need $45 million daily!

To be able to reach that market price of around 100k dollars we definitely need a lot of money that is needed to be poured into Bitcoin, at the moment the money was just us small traders and we actually did a great job increasing the market price of bitcoin of around 30k dollars and we notice that the price remains around that range, there was some resistance and it wouldn't increase or decrease around 29k$-31k$ and in my opinion, it's a great sign already. You are right about that, it is going to be a huge amount of money, so we need billionaires, companies, institutions, government money, etc, one thing here that could be a catalyst is when the government starts to print money again, that just means that there is more money than can be put on cryptocurrency or Bitcoin that could easily spike the price of Bitcoin.

Im is optimistic about it as well because there are still a few people in the world who know Bitcoin if I'm not mistaken it is less than 5% of the world population, and if I'm going to base it on Bitcoin adaptation in the past year the Bitcoin really is adapted on a lot more countries, companies, businesses, etc. Just based on that I could easily assume that the coming Bullrun is going to be bigger than the last Bullrun.

Until now, halving has been a very important factor when we talk about price increases, and probably the halving effect will not be absent the next time it happens either. Fresh money will flow into BTC just like every time, and maybe this time investing will be even easier for institutional investors who will have at their disposal a spot BTC ETF, of course we are talking about the US market.



I think that the halving is one opportunity for profit that no one wants to miss considering that it happens every 4 years, in fact it is the only sure thing that investors can rely on. And as for money, there is quite enough of it that is not actually invested anywhere and is just waiting for the right moment. Most of those who have profited from BTC in the past will surely be able to recognize that moment again.

New money means new or old investors enter the Bitcoin market. It will happen before the bull run arrives. And that new money will enter the market when there is a lot of positive or negative news around the crypto market. And when people see it as an opportunity to buy Bitcoin, they will start buying Bitcoin, especially if the price is still low like it is now.

There is usually a trigger for new or existing investors to enter the market but we probably won't be able to find it exactly. Many things make new or old investors start investing in Bitcoin and one of them is the low price of Bitcoin.

And the halving can also be a trigger for the entry of new and old investors. And if they see that the halving is getting closer, they will start aggressively buying Bitcoin because they don't want to miss the bull run. After all, it means they can expect to make big profits. Maybe I'm wrong on this, so forgive me.

You captured the views of the OP correctly as your concerns are in line with what I understand to be his/hers. Bitcoin has obviously gone to institutional level and there is no doubt institutional funds are what is driving the market at present. Nevertheless, the uncertainty in the global financial systems such as domineering moves by the west, resistance by BRICS nation and others might actually present Bitcoin as a suitable alternative to many international investors as opposed to the secular believe in gold.

I agree with you that the halving brings new money as the news of any sharp rise in price will be all over the place and people actually buy the news. What I only find disturbing is how Bitcoin could move to a high of $69k and drop to as low as $16k.You will agree with me that it take a strong believer not to fidget and that is what I think the author is point to; how to ensure that huge gains made by Bitcoin is sustained and corrections will not be so deep as to depict a failure.

But in all, Bitcoin have always come out stronger and better and the future holds so much promises.

Halvings reduce the supply of new bitcoin, so assuming a more or less constant demand, the price tends to rise. It is like a snowball that makes bitcoin be perceived as more valuable and people are willing to pay more for the same amount. This has happened in previous halvings and we assume it will happen in the next ones, the only thing is that the reduction in supply will have less and less effect on the price proportionally.

That's true. If Bitcoin is to rise high, there is of course a need for new money. But I don't think that's a problem. Institutions are now here. They're now becoming vocal of their support regardless of the seemingly unfriendly stance of regulators. That's a big deal. They're now showing openly that they recognize Bitcoin as a legit asset or a new investment class. As a currency, the adoption is also moving forward.

The halving is anticipated because new supply will now be scarcer. So even if the demand is not growing terribly high, since the amount of new supply injected into the circulation is cut into half, there will definitely be a change in the price.

Something I do ask myself each time we expect a rally: where will this cash come from?

For retail, disposable income only happens if there is no economic crisis -- even Covid itself wasn't so bad with most buyers spending relief money -- those who didn't get it or who suffered weren't Bitcoin buyers anyway. But the still-rising inflation and yet-known crisis impact worries me. Then again, maybe retail is no longer important. Institutionals? They never have issues raising cash. You've got free fit printing, magical debt creation, liquidation of other assets, and oh, even made-up stablecoins. That could all flow into Bitcoin.

If Bitcoin market is determined by speculative traders, it can rise and fall even without an influx of new money. The price can rise when speculators refuse to sell, waiting for growth, and buy more. But eventually they will sell and crash the market. This could mean that over a long period the average price will be constant, but there will be bull-bear cycles with huge ups and huge downs.

I think the potential for new money in Bitcoin is fairly limited, because most of the world views Bitcoin as a risky and volatile investment. People tend to take risks if they are convinced that it's a good risk. It's hard to do so with Bitcoin.

To be able to increase the volume of Bitcoin, of course, there must be many investors who start getting into Bitcoin.
When the Halving will occur and Bitcoin has started Hype, we will see the inflow to Bitcoin will be even higher.
The new money will come in from several new investors with quite a large amount.
We are all optimistic that Bitcoin will reach ATH when Halving 2024 and reaching an ATH price of $100k is expected.

See how Bitcoin is currently dominating, it's still at 47.51%.
To achieve a new ATH Bitcoin Domination is around 60%-70% and that will make Bitcoin the main focus because the Hype has arrived.

Source: https://coin360.com/

Then it needs New Adoption and some good news for Bitcoin so that everyone is on Bitcoin.
We will see How After the Bitcoin Halving Happens, Expect Bitcoin to see a significant upside.

Just as we are all optimistic about the future price of Bitcoin, there is one thing that has happened in the past bull markets that made Bitcoin see those tremendous increases in price during the previous bull cycles was that the Federal Reserve was in a continuous printing of money which is not happening now, right now, Fed is removing liquidity which we don't know if they going to continue towards next year which happens to be next Bitcoins having which might affect how far that the price might go.

Bull market came from fresh money as the investors are coming back and you can expect this to happen with Bitcoin. There’s a lot of investors who are into altcoins but the moment Bitcoin started to be hyped, I’m sure investors will also start to convert their altcoins to Bitcoin. Reaching that peak requires a huge volume of buyers, and investors will come at the right time in the market so be more patient and the bull will soon begin.

He is correct in some sense. You hear these numbers such as $1,000,000 per Bitcoin. But guess what there needs to be people out there willing to pay that much for a Bitcoin to bring it to those levels.

Take dogecoin for example. The amount that is mined per month is like half a billion if the price is $1 per doge. And why it’s price wasn’t sustainable at $0.70 when Elon was pumping it. People need to understand how market cap is important. Easier to take a million dollar cap coin up than it is taking a billion dollar coin up.

It is not that complicated, the rise on the price of bitcoin should be caused at the early stages by the miners, once the halving takes place they will receive less bitcoin for each block they mine, so in order for the miners to keep themselves on business they need to increase the price at which they sell their bitcoin, this causes the slow increase on the price we see at the earliest stages of the bull season, then once this growth passes a certain point investors and speculators begin to invest in this market driving the price up, which later brings retail investors and finally newbies to the mix.

Just put up into your mind that, if we do able to reach out $69k price ATH wayback into past bull run, how much more on the upcoming one? We might be seeing about having no fresh new capital or new money that might

flowed into crypto space but come to think that fiat could be unlimitedly be printed.  . Institutions and lots of huge investors are really just lurking in the shadows and just waiting for the right moment to get in.
We know that halving event is really a common trigger on having that bull run and this is why if ever you do have some doubts about potential price spike into those times then i cant blame you.
You would normally be having or creating these kind of impressions basing up on the current market conditions that we are seeing on which doubts and hesitance about the upcoming bull run
would really be there and foreseeing that it might not happen anymore this time.

We cant just really that underestimate the investors around, it might look they might not be there anymore but on the time comes then for sure we would really be getting
shocked and make out questions on where the hell those money came from. 

The halving is always what draws new money in. It's not like magically every four years like clockwork lots of people decide to start putting money into Bitcoin for random other reasons, the halving is always the reason. Or more precisely, the halving brings in a bunch of new money which increases the price and then a bunch of new people bring in a lot more money purely for speculation because they see the price going up, and that second wave of money is what causes the crash afterwards because they are the people who don't know what they are doing and get scared and sell as soon as the price starts dropping.

The halving is what brings in new money which is what leads to the bull market every four years.

There are a lot of speculations around the future and price of Bitcoin. While a lot of people are optimistic that the halving of 2024 will see Bitcoin soar as high as $100k and beyond, I feel new money is needed to sustain such explosive price. In other words, the halving might be just a small reason - what we really need is fresh capital, which generates volume and demand. The tough question is: How will new money flow into Bitcoin? Is the excitement around Bitcoin halving enough fundamental to cause a sustainable surge in price?

I think an answer to these questions and other contributions or objection to my opinion will help a lot of us learn.