Topic: Bitcoin searches Google Trends 2009 (Read 420 times)

If we look at the overall picture in the past 5 years, we will have a different view.
Coupled with the rather negative bitcoin price movement that has lasted since the beginning of 2022, the frequency of searches on Google Trends shows that interest in bitcoin is plummeting. Hit its lowest level since late 2020, despite whales' recent efforts to increase bitcoin trading volume. Bitcoin supply on exchanges continues to bottom out.

Currently when reviewing the Btc trends we can see a substantial increase every minute at every moment:



Source: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%201-H&q=bitcoin

Taking into account that BTC is becoming more and more sought after, it can be seen that it has arisen due to many other factors, such as mainly that of Covid-19, that of wars, people who now do not have a permanent job and are looking for telework, a One of the best options that appears is to earn money by buying or investing in BTC, I think that the sum of all this has not yet been accounted for, but it helps in part to have an idea.

What seems most relevant to me about this is that Google's algorithms allow anyone, when they enter a search, to direct it or mention BTC... There are people on social networks that the first thing they look for to put as a measure traffic google trends to be able to put Ht, and when they see that it is BTC they will not hesitate to place it, which is a very good advantage to help everything called "Adoption", for me it is a good thing because everything that be in favor of BTC I feel totally served.

You see Arizona?

I see Texas and North Carolina. I wonder why?

I used this: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-01-01%202009-12-31&geo=US&q=bitcoin



Nevermind, I got it. Weird.

Seriously I have also had this same thoughts that before Satoshi Nakamoto went about creating Bitcoin he must have seriously planned it out on how he was going to cover up his tracks pretty well so that no one will be able to find out who he or she is. If he just went on to create this without a thought on how to cover up his identity then a lot of people would have uncovered the secret of his identity.

But, everyone has tried as much as they could, I have even seen people that have dedicated their time in trying to dig out data that will reveal who Satoshi, despite all they have done, they are still unable to find out who he is. And I don’t think they will until he’s ready to reveal it.

Well, if you hear about an interesting project, you probably will share it your friends, but not only with those who are on the mailing list but with those you go out for a beer. This could be the case, if Hal told someone about bitcoin he met in person this person most likely would go to search for it online. This is also a possibility.
For me,  Satoshi is not among the living people.. unfortunately.

Hal finney was the person who received ten Bitcoin, from whom? Of course from Satoshi Nakamoto. we know Hal Finney cause Satoshi Nakamoto let the world know about Hal Finney but not about his real Identity! Why you can't find out the the real identity of sender when you can find out the first recipient of Bitcoin? Cause brilliant people like Satoshi Nakamoto Never wanted to reveal his identity even still nobody know about his identity even he is one person or a team! So everything is fake, pre-planned

Neither he uses VPN or not, i cant really be proven which means that we do still end up on having speculation but if those places stated is the origin then we could point out some fingers
but to whom? It is really just coincidence that known people had lived out into those places and made out some connections but doesnt mean that he's Satoshi specially Finley.
He wont really be trying to make community on keeping on guessing if he had just able to prove out that his Satoshi on just simply moving out those funds inside the wallet which supposedly
owned by Satoshi.

How if Satoshi used VPN? I strongly believe that Satoshi used such things as a VPN to secure his identity. Satoshi is a smart person, he won't let anyone knows his location by exposing his location without using a VPN. So, we cannot identify where Satoshi from by analyzing Google Trend. That google trend only lets us know about people from what countries are most excited/interested about Bitcoin issues at that time.

yes but there was a considerable volume of research from Phoenix/Temple during the first week that Satoshi presented his project here. A town of only 36K people, explain to me how it is possible.

There have been so many theories about who Satoshi Nakamoto is, although yours seems quite different from the ones I’ve been seeing so far. But we can’t really say that the guy you have said to be Satoshi is really the one. There are so many Other people that have also been said to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto. And just because Hal Finney was the first person to receive Bitcoin doesn’t really make him the Satoshi Nakamoto, although I do get where you’re coming from and it is also possible that he can be the one, but the thing is that we just don’t have the proof that he is really the one. There is also Dorian Nakamoto lol, and both has denied of being the one.

I no longer bother myself about knowing who Satoshi Nakamoto is. It doesn’t seem necessary to me anymore. If Satoshi Nakamoto has decided that it is best for him to remain secret, then who am I to bother myself about knowing who he is? He has chosen what he believes is best for him which is to conceal his identity, then I wouldn’t bother much about knowing who he is.

I only care about the technology which he has created and it has benefited a lot of people, which includes me. I am grateful that he created Bitcoin, that’s really a huge achievement for humanity.

This is interesting analysis, but I think I've seen Satoshi communicating with Hal on this forum, thanking him for something. Don't you think it would be weird to thank oneself on a forum? Also, Hal Finney denied being Satoshi Nakamoto, and I think it should be respected as well that when a person says he's not Satoshi, he's not. Perhaps Finney knew Satoshi personally, but I don't think it's the same person. And, frankly, I don't think it matters who the real Satoshi is. Satoshi's wish to remain private must be respected.

You guys all have a point but no matter how long we guess we can never know the real Satoshi cause it is not something we can solve with the use of search engines and if it is easy to figure out who Satoshi was the CIA would have done it before now.
Let's get this fact, everyone that supported the Bitcoin movement is Satoshi Nakamoto.

If I understood correctly, do you want someone to help you find out the true identity of the person or person behind someone who introduced himself as Satoshi Nakamoto? Do you even understand why Satoshi decided to leave his project to others and can you understand what it would mean for someone to really reveal his identity?

This would not only jeopardize his security (if he is alive), but would very likely have very negative consequences for Bitcoin. The strength that Bitcoin has is that we are all Satoshi, and one man is completely irrelevant in the whole story. In other words, some mysteries should never be revealed - and even if someone discovers them out of curiosity, it would be better not to share them with the public.

Check the date of Satoshi's last post with Hal's first on this forum, they almost corresponds. However there is a lot of evidence. But as many said, perhaps it's useless to persist in wanting to discover the truth. I would like to have a guide/mentor and know his true identity.

Dorian said he was not part of it anymore so he has likely the living one to know who the real one is, I assume. Nick Szabo said it could only be Hal and the real Satoshi can do it - so the point was still to Hal. However, Hal Finney still denies it even in his death in 2014. What if this was all a collaboration of the suspected Satoshis - especially those who know about programming (CSW is an exception)? We may never know that.

This article does not provide any evidence, but like hundreds (if not thousands) of others, it tries to use the mystery of the identity of the inventor of Bitcoin to promote a token or app. No one serious will put in their article as one of the candidates the well-known Faketoshi, or some random people who are only Japanese, or of Japanese descent.

Satoshi was (and probably still is) a man of above-average intelligence who planned everything down to the smallest detail and all these clues that various researchers take as some important references are nothing more than false clues.

It makes sense, but still many of such so-called evidence is not popularly accepted that bitcoin creator "Satoshi Nakamoto" is Hal Finney, but it gives us an idea about who and where is Satoshi Nakamoto came from, Anyway, we are entitled to believe what we think is true so I guess everyone should leave that hanging for a meantime for the sake of better discussion.

You haven't read this article:

Yes, exactly. And the other two countries are Finland and Sweden where we know that the source of the leasing server pointed to a small colocation provider in Helsinki, Finland.

Source: https://tokenpocket-gm.medium.com/weve-identified-the-real-satoshi-nakamoto-cf88ba23b11

First of all why do you insist there was "someone" searching based on these stats since the chart doesn't include number of searches, instead it shows a percentage-wise interest where 100 is the maximum and could be one search or it could be a million searches.
In fact when you change the stats from US to worldwide the US percentage falls down to third rank and Sweden goes on top.

Secondly by November 22 2009 bitcoin would be already 2 year old (blockchain 1 year old) approximately since it was introduced on 31 October 2008.
If anything a more significant time-frame is the actual early days meaning from 18 August 2008 when the domain name bitcoin.org was registered. And during that time the only search comes from Sweden. And by your logic Satoshi is from Sweden!
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2008-08-18%202009-03-17&q=bitcoin

Yes, it was him and there's a lot of evidence. He was a genius, but it's more fascinating to think that he is still a shadowy figure who prefers to remain anonymous.

Finney was born (May 4, 1956 – August 28, 2014) in California, United States. He studied at the California Institute of Technology and graduated in 1979.
worked on making his own games before starting a career at the developer company for PGP Corporation, which sells software called Pretty Good Privacy.

It was at this company that he developed digital money which he named Reusable Proof of Work (RPOW). This RPOW project shows Finney's interest and love for cryptographic payment systems.

in 2008, became one of the first people to know about the Bitcoin announcement. He was very impressed with Bitcoin, and immediately downloaded and ran the Bitcoin software. Finney is allegedly the second person, besides Satoshi, to run and mine Bitcoin. He was also an early bitcoin contributor and received the first bitcoin transaction from bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto.

it could be that what the op said that Finney is a Satoshi is a fact, if we look at the development that took place started by the two of them and there seems to be something that connects to their storyline, the initial giver and recipient of bitcoin.


from several news sources

Thanks you, it's a good point. In any case, I know how Google Trends works because I use it often, and a single search is not enough but it must be a high search volume trends to appear on it. Phoenix/Temple City were the only cities that week.

Also check this post made by another user, an additional evidence
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5283565

Actually, the data points (which are relative values, not absolute value) on the chart pointed to in the OP are weekly data points. The first non-cero data point corresponds to the week that ranges from the 22/11/2009 until the 28/11/2009.

If we further breakdown that week, we get this chart (daily view):
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-22%202009-11-28&q=bitcoin

(same by USA breakdown):
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-22%202009-11-28&geo=US&q=bitcoin

The detail shows that there "wasn’t enough data to represent a non-cero" (their words, not mine) value until the 24/11/2009, and then again on the 28/11/2009.

Bear in mind that the data points do not show the number of people that performed a search, nor the number of searches themselves. Rather, it shows (to the point that has been revealed) the number of searches for the sought term as a ratio on the scale on 100, in comparison to the moment that the sought term was most searched for in comparison to all other Google made searched in the given timeframe window and geographical scope.

i.e.
In my above link, the second data point has a value of 100 (27/11/2009). This means that, for the given represented timeframe (22/11/2009..28/11/2009), the 27th was the date on which most searches were made for the term "bitcoin" in relation to all the searches made that day in USA (the geographical region delimited in my link above) -> Thus the 100 reading on the data point.
On the 24/11/2009, the same ratio (searches for "bitcoin" / total searches) was 65% of that on the 28/11/2009 -> thus the 65 reading on that data point.

We cannot infer in any quantative way if it was one person, a group, or any other representation behind those searches (absolute values are not provided as stated, only relative ones).

Yes, exactly. And the other two countries are Finland and Sweden where we know that the source of the leasing server pointed to a small colocation provider in Helsinki, Finland.

Source: https://tokenpocket-gm.medium.com/weve-identified-the-real-satoshi-nakamoto-cf88ba23b11

Hal was not registered on the forum in November 2009, and the date exactly coincides with Satoshi's first post on November 22, 2009. The city is so small that it cannot be a coincidence, it could have been before or after but it is exactly the same day. November 22 2009.


Take a look for yourself on Google Trends, and you'll see it. I would so much like to be wrong so if you have any other opinions I'm glad.

I partially agree or partially disagree with you two, it depends on how you want to look at it.

What I believe is that from the fact that someone searched for the term "Bitcoin" in 2009 there, no conclusion can be drawn with certainty.

It is plausible that Satoshi looked up the term Bitcoin for some reason, to see if that word had been used before by someone else for something else, for example, but we can't say with certainty that it was him.


That makes me think it is likely that Satoshi was someone who lived in that area,

Ok how do you explain to me then that on November 22 2009 the only searches on the term Bitcoin were made by someone in the Phoenix/Temple City?

https://trends.google.com/trends/

You don't Google the project name, you would google the previous ideas that were pursued on the same topic. For example in case of Bitcoin it would be something like hashcash.
You would only google the name bitcoin if you want to learn about what bitcoin is.

P.S. It is also highly unlikely for Satoshi Nakamoto who is known as someone who has perfectly protected their identity from the start to use a privacy invading tool called Google without "protection".

you're right, that narrows it down to the two of them. For me someone so privacy conscious would never present the project with his real name. He was diagnosed with the disease in August 2009 and presented on the forum in November 2009. He had nothing more to lose and it was his motivation, working distracted him. Google doesn't lie and those were the only searches in  Nov 2009 (Temple City & Phoenix). Finally, the date of Satoshi's last posts coincides with Hal's first posts. If you create such a thing, you don't leave the ship.

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Before launching a new product, I google it. All the writings published, to appear on Google Trends must have been done different searches, you can look it up. The date exactly coincides with November 22, the day of the first post.

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ROFL. This was one of the funniest conclusions I've seen so far.
You are basically claiming that the creator of Bitcoin searched for bitcoin to see what it is

Dude, when Satoshi first published the idea about bitcoin there were some people from different parts of the world that read the explanation and some obviously got more curious and performed a search about it on Google.
In other words if anything your post proves that Hal Finney can not be Satoshi since Satoshi won't search for bitcoin, others will.

Let me add some more drama to the mystery, in Temple City at that time lived also Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto not only Hal. So who the real Satoshi is will remain mystery but we are getting closer. One thing is for sure, CSW is not Satoshi.

Exactly what he did. If you want to test something, first of all, you try to yourself.

So how you would totally say something about this stuff.

https://decrypt.co/53727/the-first-bitcoin-transaction-was-sent-to-hal-finney-12-years-ago
The First Bitcoin Transaction Was Sent to Hal Finney 12 Years Ago

So he sent that 10 Bitcoin to himself? 

Hi everyone,
using Google Trends I searched for the word "Bitcoin" in 2009 to see where it was searched.
https://ibb.co/d6rn2N2

Google Trends: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-01-01%202009-12-31&geo=US&q=bitcoin

We have 3 different countries:
-Sweden
-Finland
-United States

The first two countries the searches refer to the first periods of 2009, while if we look at the country "United States" the date refers exactly to Satoshi's first post "22 Nov 2009", we can see as sub-region Arizona.

https://ibb.co/SK357vS

if we filter by city we can see how there is Temple City, the city where Hal Finney lived. it is a small city of 25K people, it cannot be a coincidence. and his first post under his real name in this forum was in 2010. For this Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto.