Topic: Bitcoin, Spouses and Divorce (Read 2182 times)

If i were the guy, i'd rather divorce her than let her emasculate me like that.

It seems she is the boss lol! Imagine given her spouse such ultimatum just to have her way, from the tone of it, she doesn't sound like someone to reason with, the guy would have try to convince and make her understand that btc price can go even higher 😉.

If someone like that would be like that, I would dump her immediately. Nobody should make a warning of the kind "if you don't do this, I'll leave you" - that is OBVIOUSLY a toxic relationship that shouldn't exist in your life. As long as the law of the respective state does recognise Bitcoin as an asset - it should be split according to the agreement between the two parties in case of divorce.

Anyway, the guy could just make a transaction to another address and claim he does not have acces to it. haha
But if he is made to swear under oath that he does not have access to it, it gets complicated.

In general, this is an interesting topic for discussion, as I think all just the spouses' joint property is money earned together, but this does not apply to bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, since bitcoin does not have legislative regulation in the field of family law and, accordingly, cannot be shared by spouses

LOL What the hell if this happened to me I think it would be better off without her.
It is your investment it is for both of your future so why would she even pressure you and make the decision when she doesn't even understand it?
If you're in that kind of relationship it is better to leave seems like your partner isn't really supporting you to have a better future but instead just making it harder for you.
Chose someone that would support you and believe in you not someone who would just pressure you.

same i dont like to be dictated or under by my wife but theres actually husband that can be controlled easily by thier wives and wives often have that alibi that that they will leave thier husband if they wont do what they want .

there was also a thread here before that a husband got divorce by his wife and his wife wants a share with his btc and they up this case on the court  . i forgot the title but its really possible .

Interesting and funny. How can a man be controlled by his wife? If I were that man, I would immediately divorce her because no one could control me, including the bitcoins I own. For me, a husband is responsible for providing for his wife, but a wife should not be at-will in managing a husband's assets

I think the wife said this because she sees it as a ponzi scheme and doesn't believe it can give huge rewards. Maybe it will be better if you explain to your wife what Bitcoin really is and the potential it has

Hello everybody. I am not good at legal matters, but in my opinion all cryptocurrency is outside the legal field of most countries and no court will be able to award what is actually not. But if you look at the merits, you don’t need a wife who gets into her husband’s affairs. Of course, if ownership of bitcoin does not greatly affect the family budget. Everyone has their own cockroaches in their heads. The wife must respect the opinion and preferences of her husband - otherwise the requirements will grow and life will turn into a nightmare. If a husband or wife understands more than his partner in a certain field, then the opposite side simply must be sympathetic, otherwise a divorce is better. The rest is all the little things.

You will invest in a marriage where there is no fear of losing.
It's a common sense.

Truly speaking it'll serve to be a source for divorce as each and everyone are greed of money. If the husband and wife have the same opinion to sell or try to buy more and more then it won't cause any problem. Among the two if one has got difference of opinion then there arise problem. To overcome this it is possible when no one interfere with one others cryptocurrency asset holding. Let each maintain their own holdings.

For me it isn't a problem, because my wife and I have the same thought on bitcoin holding. She has learnt that more we hold more will be the growth of bitcoin. Upon the same we keep on increasing the volume of bitcoin in the wallet.

Without iota of doubt, my wife can still have her own opinion on everything I own in life: theoretically. Why would a woman or spouse ask me to sell out my destiny and I mumuciousely agree to that opinion. More reasons why I want to be alone to do my work as  I'm please. My Bitcoin wallet are far from my spouse and will be far from my future wife to be, because family is different from try to earn from a system to the benefit of the said family.

bitcoin are considered asset to some countries. some considered it property. the court will likely just divide the assets for you and your wife if proven your wife knew how much you have to a known wallet. its part of your responsibility to provide half of the wealth to your xwife, i'm sure its not that of a big deal for law abiding citizen. but its going to be a problem if the court orders to check the details of your exchange accounts like the binance account.

It certainly an interesting point to bitcoin issue, Every payment system are clarify that the consumer will be satisfy with their service. I think bitcoin is the fast and trustable excahnge system at all. so that reason spouse and divorce will be a major part in bitcoin site.

I don't think this is a case of bitcoin but rather morals. That mans wife is abusive. He could tell the court she is abusive and that will count for a lot. You cant just threat people. If you threaten to leave your spouse then you are a serious asshole.

UK.

You can of course attempt to hide your BTC and you may well succeed. But if you slip up courts will take an extremely dim view of that.

It's just the same as tax. It's taken on trust if you file your own shit. If they have cause to doubt you then life will get rather complicated.

Are you in USA or Canada? USA law is a joke honestly. Those guys don't know what they doing and have thugs for a police force. YOu guys get cuffed like wtf. Here we don't get cuffed. USA you get cuffed no matter what. Not cool. I would love to see a case where someone had to give over their bitcoin. Like I said before you would have to take a gun to someone's head. i would laugh if they told me I had to give my bitcoins over.
I laugh in their face. You cannot even prove someone owns bitcoins did you know that? Seriously look it up. You cannot legally without a point of a doubt prove they belong to you. Even if the wallet i tracked.
You have to prove that person was at that pc at that time using that IP. You can't just take things from people it doesn't work that way. If it did then anyone can be arrested for anything and get prosecuted.
It is difficult to prove things in court. Otherwise people who are innocent will go to jail all the time.

I am unsure if you are USA but the USA has terrible laws that are often abused. Most arrests are minor drug offences and mostly black people and Mexican. The racist. Not to talk about the fact 1% of the population is in jail and the second most is 0.2% This is why KYC pisses me off so much. These stupid USA laws must stay in the USA my country is not fond of America at all. I am protected from giving my personal info out and here we are told not to give KYC outside the country. The exchange here fro example is called Valr.com and I gave them my KYC. Why? Because I know who the owner and the owner use to work at another large exchange here.
There is also a physical location. Not some faceless piece of shit most people use.

That all depends on where you live. Where I'm at the moment I get married nothing is 'mine' any more. It all gets taken into account when I take one hit round the head with a frying pan too many and walk.

He should have let her leave him. What a bitch. You don't threaten the person you claim to love like that. I would have told her to fuck right off and left myself. Legally they can do jack shit to you.
It is your crypto so no law in the world will take them from you. I know a lot about the law since my brother is a lawyer.

You should not have to be in this situation, to begin with. If you then find a new wife. Don't marry idiots or stay with them. It actually is disgusting that a woman would threaten her husband like that.



There is no law that says you have to give your crypto and you don't need to hide it. You cannot get someones bitcoin. Put a gun to their head and make them enter their privatekey? Nothing will bite you hard. In this situation you could tell your wife to fuck off and that is that. She can do nothing. Not her bitcoin. If they happen to be heres and his then this is another story.
Even if there was such as tupid law I would just laugh at it. Law is man-made bs anyway. Most laws are made by a bunch of twits in a room with their own motives.

Have you heard of the issue of investing in divorced bitcoin? It can also happen if your spouse is not involved in the investment or knows nothing about bitcoin. If your partner invests a large amount of capital but fails, losses will also affect family happiness.Conflicts in families happen to be the cause of broken family happiness.

If it had been mine before she arrived I'd tell her to go fuck herself. If it were 'our' money that would different. Even then someone like that would've told you the same when it hit one dollar. And after that they'd spend what little time left you had together berating you for giving in.

It would also be a completely different deal if we were under significant financial strain. Not addressing that if you have the means is selfish and stupid. If things are bobbing along just fine then it stays put.

And when you get your divorce Bitcoin is worth something so you're going to have to give whatever the court decides away. You can try to hide it. That might bite you extremely hard in the botty.

You need to respect your wife and read. When you tie the knot in marriage, you think about how you can replenish the family budget. After all, the husband is responsible for his wife. It was just necessary to offer to live on the interest from investing in bitcoin, thereby saving both bitcoin and family.

Wow, imagine earning a money and being sued because we just want to save it for future purpose that's just stupid man. It's always money that become core of problem for most of families whether it's lacking money or having too much money I guess people are naturally really greedy and can't control themselves when they see something that could make their dreams come true.

You shouldn't live like that. Sit down with your wife and make a financial plan that determines under what conditions you'll sell what.  This is something that you can collaborate on and find a solution that makes both of you feel comfortable.  Having a clear plan is the best way to avoid making irrational emotion driven decisions in the future and plus you can get out from under having this stupid Bitcoin thing hanging over your head.

Your marriage is worth more to you than some cryptocurrency, so act like it.

thats true.
actually, never tell the truth if your partner too money oriented. because she wont know and never know how is going on. but you can share if she understand about bitcoin and technology.

It's always like that, when you hit the jackpot it's either you're changing or people around you. some people might say that getting huge chunk of money won't bring trouble but it's actually not really true. There are many cases of people's life got destroyed because immediately gaining so much money and this story mentioned seems like what is in reddit if i'm not mistaken.

As a couple there is no bread winner, or calculating how much the other one is earning, it should be balance at all, and money should not be the reason for the divorce, it should be the other reason just like adultery etc. So, yeah once you are still a couple, and decided to divorce then you are both entitled for equal fund or investment or savings that you have.

It depends on the attitude of your partner towards your investment. Both of you should strive hard to reach success together so I don't think to hide about Bitcoin with your partner would be helpful. I personally shared my address and wallets with my partner because I trust her. She's aware of crypto now that I explained how it works and its risks. Everything should be explained well to our partners so they will never ruin things but would ask for our approval when it comes to decision making.

I'm starting to think i made a mistake letting my wife know that i am into bitcoin, i have my real life job but i told her everything, since then its like i am been monitored lol, now my wife has blockfolio app on phone to track bitcoin price, i remember her asking me when i will sell, sigh

You can invest with bitcoin and altcoin but never use your saving money in the bank because when your wife know and bitcoin have been down you got problem with your house and your wife, but if profitable not worry where your source investment money come from when you loss you will angry by your wife, better use other passive your income for investing with bitcoin and altcoin.

I have no problem with my wife because she don't know much about Bitcoin but that's one of the risk if your wife knows all about Bitcoin and she is not a believer and we all know woman like shopping and material stability, but as long as you can explain to her about the potential, then you are good husband, husband should be good in explaining and it should be convincing.

You should start listening to news that tell you the whole truth about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not worst than fiat currencies. It's much better in my opinion. This is one of the most important things you need to let her know. Its price behaves alittle like gold... and it even has more purposes than gold.

I guess you should print out some fine bitcoins on paper to make them look like fiat currencies, maybe she will be convinced quicker if she could feel the fancy papers lol.


The "deflation" is as useful as other features of Bitcoin. So it is not a bubble nor mlm

I totally support you on this:

sometimes when we have the closest people it must be similar, because otherwise there will always be chaos in the bond. maybe it is important to look for people who are similar to us, especially for those closest to us

Well i think it still depends. We have our own priorities anyway. If your btc asset came from your own pocket, then i don't think your wife should have any sat on how you handle it, especially if she doesn't understand crypto that much. I think a thorough explanation can work things out. If the asset came a joint account where she's putting in money as well, then that's a different story. I'd still try to explain what will happen, but if she insists, i'll withdraw probably just half of the btc asset.

I agree with this, women are not leaders but we are the ones who guide them in the right way.
If he is more dominant than us better leave it.

I have written several keys to bequeathed to my children, considering that I also do not know about my wife and my situation, so I have prepared anything about the crypto inheritance that I have only for my children

Not gonna listen to your advice. I have a girlfriend and if I wanted to marry her, I will. I think it's terrible idea to block all feelings and avoid all relationships just because there is a CHANCE a partner will try to squeeze all the wealth from you after split up. My advice would be to not talk about numbers with your partner until you trust her/him unconditionally. And if you have trust issues you can sign a prenuptial agreement with your partner stating that cryptocurrencies are one's personal items and are not to be split.

I don't think bitcoin as a whole has anything to do with it. The court can just take it as an investment issue and should only agree the divorce if the both the parties mutually agree on it. If things go like this, then anybody can blackmail his/her partner saying to do this or that else they would file a divorce.
People need to grow up, have faith on each other because that's what a husband and wife do.

Ouch. That's what 'love' does to people. First they like each other, then they hate each other.... reason enough to never get involved in a relationship or especially not a marriage. People who do anyway scam themselves.

It's funny that the wealth you worked for so hard to accumulate throughout the years needs to be hidden because it's at risk of being taken away from you by someone you wanted to get old with.

That once again points out that not talking your wealth is the best option, doesn't matter if it's your crush, friends, family, and so on.... all these people are nothing but a bunch of leeches trying to surf on the wealth you worked for.

that is a total BS mate,if i am the Guy?for sure i will divorce that GodlDigger wife ,because people like them dont deserve to be loved and cared because being a Husband for sure we will only looking for the welfare of our love one and as we believe in crypto then we will wait for the upgrading of our Holdings.
there is no interesting point on that one mate because that is a total selfishness of his wife ..

This thread reminds me of another one which I came across a few years back. One individual found out that his wife was cheating on him. He first converted most of his assets to Bitcoin (in order to hide them) and then sent a divorce notice to his wife. His wife claimed that he was hiding most of his wealth and requested the judge to send the guy to prison. I don't know what happened in the end.. but that thread was quite old (probably from 2013-14).

Meh. Sometimes you don't know what's gonna happen once you and your wife are in that stage of life wherein money is gonna be the most crucial part of your life.
I could keep hiding in trading Bitcoin and just put it in USDT so after my death, our children would be able to inherit all of it.

there are still many women out there who can understand us as men, don't have to retain women who can't understand what men are saying, my woman never asked me to sell bitcoin or anything, because she knew I had given her enough cash so she didn't have to know about the bitcoin that I have, don't have to sue for divorce just want to force it to sell it, it looks weird

I dont believe I could relate to this particular scenario... however this does raise an interesting question.
In the case of divorce, or any government process in which an individual's assets are calculated... how does bitcoin or other concurrency come into play?

We'll use the divorce as an example. Lets say during this process the man happens to hold a good amount of bitcoin, would that be calculated into his net worth, and therefore add onto the amount he owes his ex-spouse, lets say if in this case he was forced to give half of his assets to his partner. If so, how would that be transferred, would he physically have to send her the BTC, or the current market value of his holdings?

What if, in this scenario, the man never keeps a record or tells the gov't about his crypto holdings. The courts would have no way of accessing these assets or being able to trace them back to him... would they?

Wont there be sanctions to you if you are traced to have some coins you deliberately hide from your partner?  You better be good in hiding it.

I don't have issues giving away some to my partner. Installed wallet to her phone actually and send some coins to it so she can buy something out of it like mobile data. In my country we can buy mobile data with bitcoin, from then on she knew how to use wallets. I bet she already knew trading since she was asking months ago.

After divorce, you and your partner will agree to how much is to be sent to her if you both knew how much exactly is in your wallets.

When bitcoin is rising, my wife tells me to sell some and leave the rest for the future, when the price finally falls without selling any position she gets angry and involve in game blaming. What I now do is to never show her price movement.

Im not that kind of person who do really love on hiding something specially to my wife thats why she do really knows on what are the things ive been involved too.
The thing here is that she doesnt really care too much as long i do give out their priorities in life where shes contented and doesnt even lack on that they need.
Unless if you are hiding bitcoin holdings and you are experiencing financial hardship, then its just normal for your wife to talk about it on selling it out since she
knew that you are already earning and can be used it on your living.Divorce? Not a valid reason to take.

Simple , when your wife or husband asks " Do you have bitcoins ?"

You should just say " bitcoins? How do you spell it ? "
If they know you had coins just say

 " MAN , I LOST EVERYTHING IN TRADING , I MADE A BET, a bad bet "

Judge won't Trace you , they don't have that section yet.

I hope the OP doesnt see this thread right now because he had written this in 2013.

I think its different from person to person and on reason basis as there are some people who dont wanna sell their btc even when it reached 20k$ and some spouse may jump into the media hype and pressurize the partner to sell.

I've had almost the same experience but it's my family, they are always asking if I am about to cash out all the money that I have in cryptocurrency because I might lose it all or I am not be able to cash it out in time, they've said, and all I give them is a smile, as always, I've explained it to them why they shouldn't worry about it because I can handle it, thank God they are not asking about it anymore, they just trust me, I know that they are just worried because of the news about scams regarding about cryptocurrencies.

My advice is to not tell your spouse much about Bitcoin or the price. I don’t ever talk to my wife about Bitcoin and she has no idea how much I have or what the price is.

All assets ovf value can be a subject in the divorce. You obviously weren't in this situation. I know a lot of divorced couples and they really can turn their lives into hell by fighting for the smallest things like TVs, pets and furniture.
I see no point in hiding stuff you got in the course of marriage. It's best to come into an agreement outside of the court room or you'll both lose money on lawyers and fees.

Likewise mate, I  don't need to worry all the time as we are open for material things, we know what matters to us, we are disclosing our money to each other, we are honest and open all the time, so there is nothing for me to worry about it, besides I don't have any reason to leave my wife as we are bind together until the end.

Lol this is like the first time I came across something like this. I don't have an answer to such a question because I've never came across such a situation earlier where my partner asked me to cash out and stuff after hearing something on media or wherever but I think it is that particular individuals choice wether he wants to cash out or keep investing and holding and not the partners choice. I would say is like the partner should respect the others choice and not force him/her to do something they don't want.

If you end up divorcing your partner for whatever reason it is best to prepare the hidden assets immediately because if this is their claim then you will have to make way especially with bitcoin mixers and other wallet with no trace of transactions in your main wallet. So that she won't have half your wealth, especially if you have no children.

As of now the ones who are telling me to cash out is my father, my wife doesn't care about winning or losing in traded. She supports me even if I fail this investment, so I think I have no worries about being left by my partner, an I am glad about that.

And that be critical in that case and we don't need to tell anyone even our own wife the total amout were holding because they might expect thay we are holding a lot of assets.

And for me i would only tell the total assets i am holding if will br cashing it out and spend it for the family and which is good i think.

I never thought Bitcoin will be subject  of conversations in divorse theme, it's kind of weird. I guess the dealing with Bitcoin in divorce is the same like dealing with any other asset.
But if you want to hide everything from your spouse at the very begininig then either you count on divorce or you don't trust your spouse. In both cases that is wrong and it's not a good message.

It depends on how much his wife knows the amount of BTC her husband has.

I have a friend with a similar case, just a different view of BTC and could end up in divorce court. The wife will act as a witness, and her lawyer writes the details of the BTC assets which are considered as shared commodities. The court only wants to find out everything in Fiat's nominal to process the lawsuit, everything happens not so complicated.

This is a really weird situation, why would anyone put pressure on your free will unless they made their plans to divorce a long time back and bitcoin can be a private invest if you had made those investment a few years back without the knowledge of your partner and when it comes to the court system unless and until you cash out the money there is no need for you to compensate with the amount of coins you are holding and it depends upon which country you are coming from.
I am not surprised to see many supporting to give the share when you are divorcing even with bitcoin, i can understand that sentiment.

i agree the woman who really love you will fully support you in your ups and down

I never Imagine that I'll be commenting on this type of topic which includes bitcoin and marriage but here's the thing, regardless of what it is gold, money, property, if one person really loves you then might as well that person will love you unconditionally. Bitcoin did really become a new economy class where value is the most important to the person rather than it being a means of trading it's kinda sad seeing a picture of it in a way we expect it the least.

This is the main problem in that situation, a woman who does not want to understand or support you in what you are doing is not deserving of your love trust me, man. A true partner will always support his/her other half especially if it's his/her passion.

Indeed because it is part of being in a relationship, you have to share your thoughts and let her explain her side in that way you can easily identify which is the best thing to do. If your statements are against with each other then make her realize that if you just make some decision without even thinking about the possible outcomes then you will just end up feeling remorse about it. Getting divorce isn't the answer to every problems particularly in this one, just like what they said communication is the key to make your relationship better. Maybe it's kind of difficult but if you don't want to miss the opportunity in the future as well as your wife then you have to make her realize it and your wife should understand your choices, she needs to accept and respect it because you have enough knowledge regarding it and you know the things that you have to consider before doing it.

In legal perspective, Bitcoin can be considered as an asset therefore when there will be divorce the same can be taken into half for distribution to both parties. Now, in the case of the story above, as long as both are still in marriage, I don't think it will be appropriate to pressure anyone to do something against his wish. The wife should not be interfering with the investment decisions of her husband as this can be a cause for differences.

LOL.  You're probably not married or you don't have a wife that's concerned about her husband's money--and I'll be damned if that isn't a rarity these days.  What you wrote would be sound advice if it were practical, but most married men tend to not have a surplus of funds in the form of crypto unless they have a really good job and can take care of their kids' needs and whatever the wifey wants with money left over to buy bitcoin with.

And as far as the courts go, they'll find your bitcoin, believe me.  And if it comes out later that you were hiding assets, forget about it.  You're toast. 

It's better to not get married anyway IMO.  Read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair and you'll get an idea of why men end up miserable and broke.  It's a great old book and it's still relevant to today's world.

The most important thing is the discussion to discuss the best between husband and wife.
Maybe the husband did not provide an explanation of the bitcoin in hand.
I don't think it's ethical, just because it doesn't sell all the bitcoins asking for divorce.
Whether bitcoin is in their marriage agreement or not.
This is a discussion that makes me laugh out loud  . husband and wife problems involving bitcoin in it.
But sometimes a woman's words have a point and then we regret not listening to the advice given by our woman or wife.

Since the topic was created in 2013, she was really wrong about selling out, and I hope that the husband cashed out in 2017  
I am in the minority here, I guess, 'cause I'm a wife with a husband who is not that much into Bitcoin. He's not a believer, and sometimes he can put some pressure about cashing out, but only mild pressure (like, trying to convince me to sell), nothing serious. Sometimes he just does not understand why would I wait to cash out later when there's a risk of the price going down, but we've been together for years now, and he's growing to accept my decisions about cryptos more and more.
However, if a family is in desperate need of money and there are some bitcoins, it's better to cash them out whatever the price is, 'cause money is not everything and satisfying basic needs as well as maintaining a good relationship is important.

I agree with the above.

I'm married and I used to be wealthier than my wife before marriage, but we didn't sign a contract or anything. Think about it, wouldn't you want the mother of your child to take half of everything if you split up? Things happen in life, but you still spend years together working on the same thing. You build or buy a house together, share a car, what would you say if things have turned and she was to take most of it? It's always important to put yourself in the place of the other person.
Some of you say: what if she cheats? Good question, but what if you cheat? I bet you would still want that 50%, even if it was your fault.

I can tell you that people who come into a relationship counting money and saying this is mine and that's yours, end up alone pretty fast. Don't make your relationship toxic from the start. Worry about cheating and divorces when they come. If you keep thinking about it you'll just feel miserable and it will or will not happen anyway.

This thread is super-cringe and contributes to Bitcoiners looking like unlovable trolls.

You shouldn't be married to someone who isn't your partner-- if you are, you are selling yourself exceptionally short.  With a partner, you share both the risks and benefits: you expect your spouse to stay with you if things go poorly and you're struggling, so you should also expect to share if things go well.  A good partner aids you in many ways both direct and indirect, so it is hard to determine what a "fair share" would be,  but if 50/50 wouldn't be close enough to fair then it wasn't a partnership.

A partner is someone you can trust to support you even when the world doesn't, in good times or bad. They're someone you can seek advice from on gnarly situations you couldn't share with others. They're insurance against things going poorly and someone you can trust isn't merely with you for your success when things go well.

Maybe places outside of the US have really stupid laws, but in the US at least-- assets that were yours prior to getting married as well as inherhentences are not split in a divorce-- that would be absurd if you could marry a wealthy person then divorce them shortly after and take all their stuff.  A pre-nup should only be needed when their are circumstances like an illiquid business interest that would be damaging to need to divest in the event of an acrimonious divorce. Usually when I hear people online talking about prenups I'm left wondering if they're thirteen years old-- a "mine is mine" prenup wouldn't be enforceable anywhere in the US AFAIK and you wouldn't want one because if one party does make more they'd create a wealth inequality which would undermine any prospect of partnership.

Besides-- look at the volatility in cryptocurrency markets.  Handing over 50% of your gains to someone who shared their life with you is a small loss compared to the Bitcoin price rodeo.  If the separation with someone you loved isn't a much worse concern than the prospect of 'mere' 50% loss in gains, you're over invested and/or misprioritized.

If she is your wife you gotta take care of her and provide her things she need and your kids. If you have to leave some BTC for her incase you think you'd be hit by a bus any moment, give her the access to your wallet. She wouldn't be your wife if you don't trust her then might as well just divorce her.  The court views all to be conjugal property so she has the right to own of what you have and I guess she can demand half the amount of BTC specially if you have kids.

Same thing as the State meddling in your life. Can you keep it secret? Then they will never find out. You cannot be forced to "split" something they don't know it exists in the first place... Indeed you could see it as a way to circumvent the law (in case of divorce). Perhaps its the same as keeping a hidden "stash" out of sight. Even if the law was amended forcing you to "disclose" your wallet, you could always have a hidden one. It is exactly the same problem taxation has.

Logically you would just split the thing and and tell your partner upfront that you will have your half used that way. Your own half should be also split (diversify) but that's another matter. And yes some people are simply not going to understand and even trust more media/others that know even less.

So that person should try to negotiate and cash only half and give that to her. That is usually what its done when an actual divorce occurs anyway, unless they signed that infamous pre-marital contract.

Don't let the woman decide what you should do remember the very first time a woman decide something it gave catastrophe to human kind (Eve eating the forbidden fruit).
Just kidding you should know how to handle the situation tell her everything explain it to her I think she would understand it,
If not then I think that person doesn't really support you to grow or be successful on your own way.

I have heard a great saying, "never follow a woman", and another "The work of a man should not involve a woman". It doesn't sound good when I write in English, but in my native language, it's a truth. I won't say much about Bitcoin here, but we should decide for ourselves, listening is good, but listening is not allowed to be tied to coercion. How would that woman feel if one morning she woke up and bitcoin was going up? I am sure she will regret her decision.

This is really funny. I was thinking you meant it but seeing you suggesting the opposite...
Well sometimes, some women advise rightly without emotion.

During marriage you sign a legal agreement from the couple.

Depending on that court follows it and bitcoin will be sancioned according with that protocol.

For instance if it was half goods for each other after marriage then it's split.
If is what belongs to each other after marriage stays with each other than that's it.

I believe that decision (from the wife rush on selling) was cause of point number 1 so she could win some immediatly as well in case that happen

No, because each one of us, in a couple relationship, have our own money to use and invest as we want as individuals, at least that is my opinion about this matter, I can't say for everyone. But it's very important to have autonomy with your money in a relationship to avoid conflicts like the one you mentioned.
I think bitcoin would hardly be shared in a divorce, because it's not declared in most cases.
But if so, half of this amount should be shared with your partner, probably taking the current price on the moment of the court decision.

That would be up to to the court to decide. Usually even cheating partners get half of the stuff. It's different with children. The ones that are blamed for the destruction of marriage usually don't get them, but they still get money because what you earn during the course of marriage belongs to both of you.

It won't be a pressure even if your wife or girlfriend knew about you holding bitcoin if she understand you. She doesn't have to know everything related about Bitcoin if she's not interested but if she really loves him, she won't pressure him. Cause obviously, it looks like she just want or got blinded by money that's why she wants him to cash everything out.
If you don't agree with your wife you're free not to follow her. It's your decision after all as well as fighting with each other. If you will just explain to her why you can't cash it all out she might understand. And I don't believe that you shouldn't tell your partner about crypto. It's like you're keeping a secret to her... It's not good for a relationship.

This case is quite interesting, but a fundamental principle of business is to separate it from the family, the person who invests ideally must have control of their investment and make their own decisions and obviously be willing to lose that money.

In my particular case I always separate business from the family, because then it can become a real headache.

I have not partner yet, but i keep tell my parents what i do and so do for bitcoin holding. I think they are really understand when i tell them price increased, price dumped, why i not sell, why i hold. As long it is not bother my daily needs, maybe they think it is their son's investment and their son know what is good for it. But they keep tell me not to regret if price dumped, like when they said it is ok to hold because you think price is not good.

Really interesting topic for discussion. Dividing money and property is always a painful question during any divorce. Everything comes up to the cost of divorce in that particular case. If you can reach a mutual decision about divorce - then you can file divorce forms online without the help of a lawyer, an uncontested divorce will cost you much cheaper. If bitcoins held as a property, then you better find a good lawyer cause you have to resolve problems about property division.

I'm having a similar situation here. I'm so into crypto that my girlfriend thinks I'm not giving her enough time. She knows about my crypto involvement and she's Okay with it if I stay away from gambling. And she founds out everytime I lose high amount in gambling. It's getting difficult for me to balance my job, crypto and girlfriend all at a time. I just hope she won't fall for any other.

If the ex-wife finds the guy filthy rich after few years, there is not much that she can do. The guy can claim that he got the wealth through legitimate means AFTER the marriage was dissolved.

what, even if she cheated on you with another guy, you'd still give her half? Don't say this is impossible, you never know with women

Good God..  Prenups!  lol.  Well I could understand if the SO wants to keep their property especially if it's before marriage and they have a decent fortune (even if it's a nice house or some collection).  If the SO agrees, then you know they don't care much about the money. 

In any case, if the SO didn't give a crap about you and your bitcoins, keep them for yourself .  I tell my wife about it but she doesn't think much about it just as long as I'm careful with what I'm doing.  In the event of something happening, I'd still give half to her. 

Now in court, that's a different story .  If you got married and accumulated bitcoins afterwards, half belongs to her.  But who's to say you ever had an account .  If she finds out you filthy rich after a few years and the value of bitcoins rockets up, you'll sure to be getting a letter from the courts to review your finances.

The problem with prenups is that in most of the EU nations, lawyers can tear down the agreement and make it near worthless.

One word: prenup. Anyone who won't agree to a prenup clearly doesn't respect your property rights, and if they don't respect your rights, then they don't respect you as a person, so why the fuck are you even marrying them?

The hardest fight is with yourself

The first mistake he made was that he gave all the details of his BTC stash to his wife.

BTW... if she is going to leave him if he doesn't cash out all his coins, then I think she will do that even if he does everything as per her orders.

Men like pretty women, and women like wealthy men. 

i look at threads like these https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--358254 and i think to myself "it's kinda hard." i am programmed to get a boner when i see a picture like that.. and bad things happen when the blood flow stops going to your brain.

Better learn to control that urge, dude

men rule the world, but women rule men. the guys with power and wealth have it all, but they can't control their urge for a pretty woman... just ask the likes of anthony weiner. i am reminded of this when i see women getting bitcoin from horny donors, or when a woman gets her claim to fame for purposefully getting into a scandal. that chick who sexted anthony weiner was obviously aiming for that money and fame, and man did she get it 

What are you talking about. I love women, when they behave like women. When they don't, well, right there, show the *itch who's the boss. Always works. When it doesn't, time to look for a new woman.

sometimes the desire for poonanny supercedes all logical reasoning.. and sometimes guys just love dominant women. you can confirm that with misstress_magpie  

Don't invest in a marriage what you aren't prepared to lose. This should be common sense to everyone but especially poignant to "investors".

lol let's all be woman hating chauvanists..

i bet she wanted to cash all that money out to buy a new dress or purse. can you imagine how pissed off the husband would be if BTC went to $10k and it turns out she wanted the money for buying shit she didn't need

"Listen to a woman and do the opposite of what she tells you" - that works pretty good, you should try it too

i hope this story doesn't bring out the misogynists out in you guys.. she is probably a controlling bitch, but.. well, shit, i can't really defend her.

if i were the guy, i'd rather divorce her than let her emasculate me like that.

The media is hyping up Bitcoins. Some people in the media are hyping it up so much that they think it'll go to $1,000,000. Show her that news

Why don't you just explain to your SO, why your holding? Explain why the price will keep rising. Remember your SO is a partner no reason they should be left in the dark, otherwise you might as well just break up.

Just to clarify - I personally don't hide my BTC from her, if anything I wish she would be into Bitcoin too!

I'm just curious if anyone's partner has suddenly "woken up" to the value of Bitcoin and demanding you cash out immediately, perhaps after listening to the MSM and thinking it's some kind of bubble or ponzi scheme... 

Address = Never Give to Wife  = courts don't know jack

Hello Folks,

I was listening to a Bitcoin podcast the other day and the speaker mentioned that one person had written to him asking for advice - his wife had heard about Bitcoin in the mainstream media and the price rise and was pressuring him to cash it all out immediately or she would leave him.

I don't know how that particular fellow ended up but it got me thinking - for those of us with partners who are not into Bitcoin, have you ever had pressure put on you to sell it up and are they even aware of how much BTC you are actually holding?

There is a bigger picture here as well, with some people holding hundreds or thousands of BTC and the price continuing to go up - how might the court system view Bitcoin in the context of divorce and separation?

It certainly raises an interesting point.

Thoughts?