Topic: Bitcoin-stocks.com lying about what they invest in (Read 1844 times)

This statement right here shows your involvement with nextponzi hence i think you're williamj2543 / morreira

It's an exact copy of Weeklyponzi. 130% but it makes it seem more worth it with a 1% drop in fees. lol.

Just in nextponzi, it seemed a bit legit... but now it's having some bugs and problems so Idk.

Yet you're STILL promoting and supporting other ponzis?? 

Yeah, you would have.

Be honest though. I would have won that bet in less than 24 hours : )

Yeah, I get kicked in the face a lot for trusting humanity. It's one of my flaws.
I just don't see how disbelief to all that has not a lot of proof is a good way to go about life.

All he does is promote ponzis.

The plutonium guy made out with tons of BTC and had chumps like michaeladair defending him till the end. Ridiculous.

Michaeladair you got kicked in the face! Told you this guy ain't paying out shit! He also deleted all of my posts.

Anyone who sent anyone negative rep because you believed Plutonium was going to pay you out is now screwed over.

I should have made the bet with Michael yesterday. I would have won today 😀

The worst is people defending him. I don't get why people don't use their brain. So fucking greedy.

He's untrusted so his trust doesn't show up. You are still dark green to me

He deleted all my posts too, made topic in Gambling section to warn others, and also left negative trust.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stay-away-from-bitcoin-stockscom-918877

Over the long run all HYIPs are going to collapse and not payback investor's money. That is a given.

They are misleading investors as to what they are doing with their money. There could be a HYIP that is honest about the fact that they will eventually run away with investor money and people can gamble accordingly

"with gambling that's a decent possibility"
How?
They're more likely to put funds on a 98% bet and "accidentally" lose it all.

I am not involed at all and I haven't used em, but as long as they payback, and with gambling that's a decent possibility, I don't really care. But because the chance of losing isn't low I won't invest

Most HYIP's lie....

Exactly, they don't even need to use Coinbase or Circle as you can use an exchange for arbitrage trading.

How did they reach their buying limit even though only around 2k is invested in this? The instant buy for Coinbase is already 1k but I don't know about circle. Definitely full of bullshit.

They were claiming to invest customer money in things like altcoin trading and arbitrage while they were really gambling with investor money. Don't you think that is somewhat misleading

Bro HYIP's are just a method gambling, get that in your head bruh

Not supporting the Ponzi, but I got my money back.

What really bothers me is that they're not only running a Ponzi (I don't care), but gambling with our money.

It is impossible for the forum to know for sure when something is a scam or not. I agree that anyone who is promoting a ponzi is untrustworthy in my book.

Is this the first ponzi that michaeladair has openly supported?

Extremely shady

I left michaeladair a negative trust before for openly supporting and endorsing the ponzi multiple times but he pmed me and I removed it because he said he no longer would.

There needs to be forum intervention for shit like this. Theymos refuses to take responsibility for anything. Covering under the guise of free speech when that is obviously NOT this forum goal.

God forbid there be forum moderation and responsibility

The below quote was posted by moreia more then two hours after my posts were deleted and an hour after I created this thread

That's just scary.  I'd be more confident if they just owned up to it and said yes, we have a really bad ass dice strategy but need funds to gamble.  That would be better than deleting posts.

I wonder how much longer the payouts will last.

As was  mine, hence the scam accusation. They decided they don't even want to try to explain it

I made a post in that thread asking about the btc address being a dice gambling website and my post was deleted. 

I want to first point out that anyone who invests in something that is advertised as a "HYIP" is basically asking to have their money taken from them.

I also generally do not have a problem with HYIP/ponzi's as long as they are honest with what they do/what will ultimately happen.

The user: Plutonium is the OP behind the bitcoin-stocks.com thread in the gambling section. Users michaeladair, moreia and TheGambler also appear to be promoting the HYIP however it is not as clear they are actively behind the HYIP, I feel they are however.

According to what Plutonium has posted about it's HYIP program it actively invests it's money in actual "revenue sources". See below quote snip:
This however is clearly not true. I tried quizzing them on this last night and was only met with what I feel are clearly lies.

I received an anon tip off with information that the public addresses for this HYIP are directly connected to bitdice.me, since I cannot release the identity of the tipper I looked into what he provided me and I would agree with his conclusion. After I decided it was fruitless to continue to be met with lies from him, I decided to simply post the evidence and my commentary in their self moderated thread. It was deleted (big surprise). Below is what I wrote.

You are contradicting yourself. If your bitcoin can be traced to you then when you go to convert it to fiat it can still be traced back to you.

What is the same of this "someone" and why are you trusting them with other people's money? The risk of them running away with their money is not disclosed anywhere. You have also not answered my question as to why you are paying an above market rate for a service that can be done at a fraction of what you are paying for essentially none of the risk.

Also if you are using a "someone" then they will not be able to effectively mix your bitcoin unless they are mixing bitcoin for a large number of other customers as well.