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Topic: Bitcoin Tide Lifting All Altcoins Boats (Read 380 times)

legendary
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November 10, 2019, 07:10:25 AM
#37
Another trick to attract people and to make them invest money into crypto. But I am staying positive, because Bakkt exchange is raising its volume and I believe that sooner or later we would see another bull run.
In my opinion, Bakkt will not affect this market much because this is only a futures contract and cannot make all altcoins increase in the near future. If you take a moment to analyze this market, you can predict what will happen next. Currently, what people are interested in is Bitcoin because if the coin is not stable until the end of this year, we will soon see another downtrend.

Nobody wants downtrend but it is difficult to predict what will happen next in the near future because of the great volatility that has made many investors scared and many will choose to wait in the this time  .
No one wanted to see further downtrend but with speculative type of investment like this we are unsure what causing the trends movements.
All you can do is to make assumptions and keep working to enhance your knowledge, whatever causing fluctuations if you have good outlook
you might find better ideas to invest your money. No one can say what will be the next trend or why some coins are moving differently from
bitcoin, either pumped groups or some updates coming from the developing team that creating the pumped.
hero member
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November 09, 2019, 08:58:36 PM
#36
Another trick to attract people and to make them invest money into crypto. But I am staying positive, because Bakkt exchange is raising its volume and I believe that sooner or later we would see another bull run.
In my opinion, Bakkt will not affect this market much because this is only a futures contract and cannot make all altcoins increase in the near future. If you take a moment to analyze this market, you can predict what will happen next. Currently, what people are interested in is Bitcoin because if the coin is not stable until the end of this year, we will soon see another downtrend.

Nobody wants downtrend but it is difficult to predict what will happen next in the near future because of the great volatility that has made many investors scared and many will choose to wait in the this time  .
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November 09, 2019, 02:12:55 PM
#35
Another trick to attract people and to make them invest money into crypto. But I am staying positive, because Bakkt exchange is raising its volume and I believe that sooner or later we would see another bull run.
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November 09, 2019, 02:08:45 PM
#34
Unfortunately, when the Bitcoin tide goes out, then the altcoin boats also follow it out to sea, why can't they just get stranded high up on the beach right?Wink

But we all know almost everything in crypto relies on Bitcoin, and will continue to do so for at least 5 to 10 more years. Time for us to get on with the program!
It's been the trend that when bitcoin dips other alts dips too. While some may still be in green it doesn't mean they shift to that coin, some that still in green might have developing update that were not able to join in the sea. When I sell BTC I just may convert it to fiat or park in other investment vehicles as I wait for the time to collect more again laters.
but that trend in the crypto market has changed. many of the investors and traders now choose to sell their BTC for stable assets such as USDT. altcoin growth will be disrupted if bitcoin has a very high trading dominance. as happened this year, we can see how bitcoin makes pumps and altcoin not move much. now we are waiting for the growth of the market together with both bitcoin and altcoin. but that won't be easy, the market needs a big boost from new investors who increase demand.
hero member
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November 09, 2019, 04:59:19 AM
#33
Unfortunately, when the Bitcoin tide goes out, then the altcoin boats also follow it out to sea, why can't they just get stranded high up on the beach right?Wink

But we all know almost everything in crypto relies on Bitcoin, and will continue to do so for at least 5 to 10 more years. Time for us to get on with the program!
It's been the trend that when bitcoin dips other alts dips too. While some may still be in green it doesn't mean they shift to that coin, some that still in green might have developing update that were not able to join in the sea. When I sell BTC I just may convert it to fiat or park in other investment vehicles as I wait for the time to collect more again laters.
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November 09, 2019, 04:53:15 AM
#32
Unfortunately, when the Bitcoin tide goes out, then the altcoin boats also follow it out to sea, why can't they just get stranded high up on the beach right?Wink

But we all know almost everything in crypto relies on Bitcoin, and will continue to do so for at least 5 to 10 more years. Time for us to get on with the program!
sr. member
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November 09, 2019, 04:16:25 AM
#31
It is on a retreat down below $9000. One big problem about bitcoin is how fast it jumps up or down. Even you posted your thread until now it is already revising Sad

Well that's something which is common when it comes to Bitcoin and crypto currency I am sure it will rose up again just like it did last time I hope you remember it was down to $7400 before pumping up to $10000 and setting somewhere around $9000, we might see frequent fluctuations until halving which will decide if there will be a bull run or not.
newbie
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November 08, 2019, 10:54:18 PM
#30
It is on a retreat down below $9000. One big problem about bitcoin is how fast it jumps up or down. Even you posted your thread until now it is already revising Sad
sr. member
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November 03, 2019, 03:57:27 PM
#29
Actually bitcoin always influence some of the altcoins in the market. But it still uncertain if will make a progress constantly while bitcoin keep crawling . Because you know there's always a factor that keep pulling alts after small bump .wherein even before due to some greedy whales within the market. So don't assume too much when there's a pump in some altcoin. And monitor the growth rate as well to prevent regrets. Its very unpredictable TBH if you just relying on bitcoin. Because not all the time bitcoin can help alts to recover quickly. So be smart enough when there's a pump in the market. Dont ever wait for more results because once it fluctuate it will continue to crawl back to the button stage .

That's what we call upfront response, I have similar opinion as bitcoin used to carry other altcoins ahead during pump but this cannot happen everytime as we have 3053 cryptos listed in coinmarketcap right now and bitcoin's influence on other coins is gradually reduced. Now any further pump or dump of altcoin will be purely based on the servies it has to offer the crypto world, it will not be a smart move to jump into a conclusion and make any move just with speculations and last few day's market trend.
hero member
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November 03, 2019, 03:25:45 PM
#28
I know we all have an inherent desire to know why things happen but at some point you need to be willing to let go of things and accept that some stuff just happened because of the random nature of the markets, when there are as many coins as we have in the market some coins will behave in a slightly different way than the other coins and will present greater profits or greater losses, there is nothing really special about bitcoin SV and you should stop looking for any answer.
When BSV gained "popularity" a few months ago, the incessant increase in price could actually be the answer to this question. When the price had to go down, it moved in the opposite direction, and I do not think it was due to the naturalness of the market. I think that this increase is due to the intervention from the external powers. Maybe I am not right in my opinion, but frankly, I have not seen anyone supporting it in a long time.
sr. member
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November 03, 2019, 07:27:14 AM
#27
Actually bitcoin always influence some of the altcoins in the market. But it still uncertain if will make a progress constantly while bitcoin keep crawling . Because you know there's always a factor that keep pulling alts after small bump .wherein even before due to some greedy whales within the market. So don't assume too much when there's a pump in some altcoin. And monitor the growth rate as well to prevent regrets. Its very unpredictable TBH if you just relying on bitcoin. Because not all the time bitcoin can help alts to recover quickly. So be smart enough when there's a pump in the market. Dont ever wait for more results because once it fluctuate it will continue to crawl back to the button stage .
sr. member
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November 02, 2019, 04:25:37 PM
#26
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why?  
I know we all have an inherent desire to know why things happen but at some point you need to be willing to let go of things and accept that some stuff just happened because of the random nature of the markets, when there are as many coins as we have in the market some coins will behave in a slightly different way than the other coins and will present greater profits or greater losses, there is nothing really special about bitcoin SV and you should stop looking for any answer.
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October 31, 2019, 02:44:59 AM
#25
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 
Its just normal market reaction to me, few new coins added big value when bitcoin did the 32% recovery days back, it shows that if bitcoin manages to reach a new All Time High then altcoins will surely benefits, instead of BSV i think bitcoincash is way better
Also, chance that it's the team behind or whales who are supporting this project creates artificial movement and carry the price to rise up. It's need to assess much closer to avoid being trapped. With the volatility and unpredictable market movements, make sure to find good reason why the value of project is moving. Don't rush things out and never to blindly invest with something you aren't sure.
In any case, the situation on the cryptocurrency market is still very alarming and it is very difficult to explain what is happening, and even more so to predict the near future is impossible.  Nevertheless, they are active in Ethereum and Bitcoin are less risky, and I also am wary of investing in other projects today, because I suspect certain manipulations.
Yeah, its true that market are very difficult to explained but i don't have any doubt that there is a certain manipulation in todays trend because we don't have any evidence that causing the market pointedly drop in manipulating the price.
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October 30, 2019, 11:34:12 PM
#24
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 

Not quite sure with this. But they were all made out of hard fork. Or may be on the away around masses were into certain alts in which you notice. Besides, Bitcoin SV features were all favored for miners so maybe miners majority of it are all into Bitcoin SV, so, even the market downfall doesn't have a huge impact to Bitcoin SV.
sr. member
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October 30, 2019, 10:27:17 PM
#23

Craig Wright is not only involved with Bitcoin SV. He is the center of Bitcoin SV. If the apple is rotten at the core, there is no way it will retain its glow. Look at how foolish Craig Wright appears to the crypto community. He looks desperate and like a kid who is short of attention. Does anybody think the real Satoshi is as desperate for attention as this man? What will you expect then from the project this man is owning? I am even wondering why Bitcoin SV is still in the top 10 when it is clearly a shitcoin.

Their community support is also strong so that it remains in the top 10 Altcoin at this time. The developer is also always active and doing some updates. It is very regrettable when Craig Wright's attitude does not reflect a scientist. Even in his claim as the creator of bitcoin he attaches a lot of evidence that he thinks is correct.

One reddit user even mentioned David Kleiman as Satoshi Nakamoto which was more likely because David Kleiman had published the text in the same vein as Satoshi Nakamoto wrote in an Email. David Kleiman himself is a colleague of Craig Wright. until now all was only speculation, waiting for authentic evidence to be published.
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October 30, 2019, 12:03:43 PM
#22
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 
Its just normal market reaction to me, few new coins added big value when bitcoin did the 32% recovery days back, it shows that if bitcoin manages to reach a new All Time High then altcoins will surely benefits, instead of BSV i think bitcoincash is way better
Also, chance that it's the team behind or whales who are supporting this project creates artificial movement and carry the price to rise up. It's need to assess much closer to avoid being trapped. With the volatility and unpredictable market movements, make sure to find good reason why the value of project is moving. Don't rush things out and never to blindly invest with something you aren't sure.
In any case, the situation on the cryptocurrency market is still very alarming and it is very difficult to explain what is happening, and even more so to predict the near future is impossible.  Nevertheless, they are active in Ethereum and Bitcoin are less risky, and I also am wary of investing in other projects today, because I suspect certain manipulations.
sr. member
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October 30, 2019, 11:47:37 AM
#21
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 
Its just normal market reaction to me, few new coins added big value when bitcoin did the 32% recovery days back, it shows that if bitcoin manages to reach a new All Time High then altcoins will surely benefits, instead of BSV i think bitcoincash is way better
Also, chance that it's the team behind or whales who are supporting this project creates artificial movement and carry the price to rise up. It's need to assess much closer to avoid being trapped. With the volatility and unpredictable market movements, make sure to find good reason why the value of project is moving. Don't rush things out and never to blindly invest with something you aren't sure.
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October 30, 2019, 11:31:50 AM
#20
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 

Small marketcap shitcoin which you can manipulate to any direction you want. Especially when you are a billionaire like Calvin Ayre. If you are buying any of these pumps you deserve to get burned by Ayre.
For small volume shit coins then its just really easy for these coins to be easily get pumped.For top alts they do usually go along with Bitcoins price but only
on small gains or percentage and unknown or not so popular coins will always be possibly be on top gainers of that specific time.
Bitcoins price movement doesnt correlate anytime with altcoin prices so its better not to rely into this presumption.Talking about BSV?
Pump or Dump - i dont really care at all.
sr. member
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October 30, 2019, 10:35:40 AM
#19
BSV is just a junk coin that blackmails its investors. Doing a BCH hardfork just to take as much profit as possible.
BSV was even delisted by Binance because of the attitude of Craig Wright who declared himself as Satoshi Nakamoto (inventor of Bitcoin). Craig Wright is also called a con man by many people because of his claim. Anyone who opposes the claim will be legally sued. very crazy. I have never touched BSV after knowing this.

I never even thought about investing into it as soon as I found out Craig Wright was involved. You can take one look at that dude and see how full of crap he is. I figured that the project was doomed from the start with all the stuff he had going on. He's just all around shady. That's why that court told him he had to pay $4 billion in Bitcoin to the Kleiman estate. Don't trust that dude.

Craig Wright is not only involved with Bitcoin SV. He is the center of Bitcoin SV. If the apple is rotten at the core, there is no way it will retain its glow. Look at how foolish Craig Wright appears to the crypto community. He looks desperate and like a kid who is short of attention. Does anybody think the real Satoshi is as desperate for attention as this man? What will you expect then from the project this man is owning? I am even wondering why Bitcoin SV is still in the top 10 when it is clearly a shitcoin.
sr. member
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October 30, 2019, 09:41:38 AM
#18
Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 
No idea why, but this can and does happen.  I was looking at the chart for dash the other day and there was a period where it was gaining in value independently of bitcoin at some point in 2017.  How does that happen?  People were obviously buying a lot of dash and not as many were selling it.  That can and did drive up the price of dash in terms of bitcoin *and* in terms of fiat.  Most of the time alts increase only in terms of fiat when bitcoin lifts their boats (excellent analogy).

I never even thought about investing into it as soon as I found out Craig Wright was involved. You can take one look at that dude and see how full of crap he is.
I generally don't judge someone on looks alone, but in this case I agree with you 100%.  Why is it that most of the colorful personalities in crypto are so full of shit?
legendary
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October 30, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
#17
BSV is just a junk coin that blackmails its investors. Doing a BCH hardfork just to take as much profit as possible.
BSV was even delisted by Binance because of the attitude of Craig Wright who declared himself as Satoshi Nakamoto (inventor of Bitcoin). Craig Wright is also called a con man by many people because of his claim. Anyone who opposes the claim will be legally sued. very crazy. I have never touched BSV after knowing this.

I never even thought about investing into it as soon as I found out Craig Wright was involved. You can take one look at that dude and see how full of crap he is. I figured that the project was doomed from the start with all the stuff he had going on. He's just all around shady. That's why that court told him he had to pay $4 billion in Bitcoin to the Kleiman estate. Don't trust that dude.
hero member
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October 30, 2019, 08:59:27 AM
#16
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 

Just the usual pump and dump of BSV, remember that the people behind that coin has some shady behavior in the past so don't be surprised if the price is pumping so hard right now.

Before it was BCH who got that so called "fame" of being the fastest pump coins, but it seems that BSV has taken the crown. Don't you worry, after that rise, eventually it will come down again. If you wanted to join the ride, you can do it as long as you know when to exit.
sr. member
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October 30, 2019, 04:41:58 AM
#15
BSV is just a junk coin that blackmails its investors. Doing a BCH hardfork just to take as much profit as possible.
BSV was even delisted by Binance because of the attitude of Craig Wright who declared himself as Satoshi Nakamoto (inventor of Bitcoin). Craig Wright is also called a con man by many people because of his claim. Anyone who opposes the claim will be legally sued. very crazy. I have never touched BSV after knowing this.
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October 30, 2019, 04:10:37 AM
#14
nice to hear the general sentiment is BSV is no bueno Cheesy
it moved +6% again today, not too bad, imo tho it does so as it can, meaning less people are invested so its easier to move around price wise Tongue



When has general sentiment ever been bueno for BSV? Haha. OK except when it's artificially pumped and shilled, but that's all temporary and affects all altcoins in general. Just doesn't even work much for BSV.

What irks me is that even with such a shitty price, they still made millions from the useless fork. They'll milk it so much and until it can't be milked no more.
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October 30, 2019, 03:46:44 AM
#13
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 
Of course pump and dump,in short it’s a bull trap lol,what good can we expect from that bitcoin fork?and being owned by Craig Wright ?i wonder what can be the sentiment of the investors who bought that day ,for sure they are regretting what action they made

I don’t wanna be harsher but shitcoin like this has no future and don’t even deserved to be invested,how can we trust such coin if the owner doesn’t deserved to be trusted?sorry but that’s a luring strategy from a desperate project
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October 30, 2019, 02:46:44 AM
#12
trader strategy is like that its normal for me but if you start to take some bsv Iam not sure it will benefit to you ,this game trader there is very hard and the group is also very agile when growing value so my advice should be cautious if there is anything suspicious ,but that's all up to you if you believe you will succeed there

That's only a matter of time when we see good market for our holdings, then we must sell our asset and make that as final decision. Indeed we need to be careful on what moves we applied here on unpredictable market, because failure of handling it well tends to put your profit in danger. Meaning if your risk on something you're not certain with, it's a 50/50 chances of reaching our goals successfully.
legendary
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October 30, 2019, 02:03:36 AM
#11
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 

Small marketcap shitcoin which you can manipulate to any direction you want. Especially when you are a billionaire like Calvin Ayre. If you are buying any of these pumps you deserve to get burned by Ayre.
hero member
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October 30, 2019, 02:01:08 AM
#10
trader strategy is like that its normal for me but if you start to take some bsv Iam not sure it will benefit to you ,this game trader there is very hard and the group is also very agile when growing value so my advice should be cautious if there is anything suspicious ,but that's all up to you if you believe you will succeed there
sr. member
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October 30, 2019, 01:54:52 AM
#9
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 

I don't see any tide lifting bags of altcoins. So far, altcoins only partially recovered like 25% from the crash of October 25. This is a normal fluctuation of price action. A real tide lifting event would be breaking old price resistance, especially the weekly ones.
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October 30, 2019, 01:34:42 AM
#8
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 
Its just normal market reaction to me, few new coins added big value when bitcoin did the 32% recovery days back, it shows that if bitcoin manages to reach a new All Time High then altcoins will surely benefits, instead of BSV i think bitcoincash is way better
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October 30, 2019, 01:31:13 AM
#7
I think supporters are just trying to secure positions and taking advantage while BTC was high at that moment, lets asume that these BSV holders are also BTC holders probably they are sticking around if the Bitcoin is making a major move and move independently during negatives.
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October 29, 2019, 09:36:01 PM
#6
I don't touch BSV, but it's always doing good when Bitcoin's doing bad. You forgot Ripple's XRP on that list.

This was just a normal market reaction, but if you look deeper, while BTC was raising for almost 30 percent, the most popular altcoins like ETH, BCH or LTC added slightly above 10 percent. Furthermore, put your fingers away from BSV, it is a very suspicious coin.
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October 29, 2019, 09:14:03 PM
#5
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 

I have no idea. Perhaps it is being pumped by the loyal supporters of Bitcoin SV to send the message to the crypto community that they are the real Bitcoin and when Bitcoin is pumping their coin will also be pumping. Or perhaps because there are many people who are falling to their trap believing that it is the real Bitcoin, made some purchase of Bitcoin SV, and ended up realizing that their Bitcoin is not the real Bitcoin because there is an SV at the end of it.
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October 29, 2019, 06:31:59 PM
#4
nice to hear the general sentiment is BSV is no bueno Cheesy
it moved +6% again today, not too bad, imo tho it does so as it can, meaning less people are invested so its easier to move around price wise Tongue

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October 29, 2019, 05:03:31 PM
#3
Don't look for some reasons on why is it like that. The market is very shaky and everything can be done within any period.

This was just a normal market reaction, but if you look deeper, while BTC was raising for almost 30 percent, the most popular altcoins like ETH, BCH or LTC added slightly above 10 percent. Furthermore, put your fingers away from BSV, it is a very suspicious coin.
Yeah, that's a good observation and true. While bitcoin has been performing well, these altcoins are also moving up and keeping themselves together with bitcoin. I reckon that you don't get into BSV if you want to save your money.
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October 29, 2019, 12:07:59 PM
#2
This was just a normal market reaction, but if you look deeper, while BTC was raising for almost 30 percent, the most popular altcoins like ETH, BCH or LTC added slightly above 10 percent. Furthermore, put your fingers away from BSV, it is a very suspicious coin.
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October 25, 2019, 02:29:57 PM
#1
The Bitcoin tide has lifted all altcoins boats today, but Bitcoin SV (BSV) price was gaining even when the sea was all red. Anyone knows why? 
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