Topic: BitCoin vs BigBrother - fighting or containing (Read 1236 times)

I agree.


Can the user ID stop napalm bombing , Guantanamo Bay and drone killing ?
If not then it is inefficient against terrorism.
But it is good for take away your money and finance the above.

Bitcoin is NOT in the "grip of the banks" so it does not need to be freed.    However, this proposal would help put it in the grips of government and therefore the banks.  Is this what you intend?

Regardless, if you think this is a good idea, feel free to implement it or put out a bounty for someone to implement it, and encourage people to go along with it.  Then you can see whether people value freedom or not.

Never heard about the difference between anarchy and anomie?

This is why applying the global commercial rules will enable us to free our money from the grip of the banks.
we need to supply with alternative under the low solution.

Containing and not Rejecting

With the correct low understanding we can free the bitcoin from the grip of the banks and the governments without
becoming outlaws. This is a bigger revolution then to just be manor anarchist men solution.

Well Benjo, You are talking as the guardian of freedom but you are mistaken. Their is an old saying in Hebrew (חז"ל):

Pray for the sack of the kingdom as without the fear of it people will eat etch other alive.

You are able to write these words because you have the safety of the the "democratic police countries" with out them you
would be speaking your mind in a dark jail...

We have a lot to improve in our democratic countries but it's the best system man had found until now (unless you have a better idea).
So if we are looking for improvement we have to make a change with out killing the system.  As we are aware the we must limit the power
of the governments we also need to make our bitcoin system apply with the global economic and low rules.
This will enable the bitcoin system becoming a mainstream tool.

Applying with the rules can be hard for your freedom image but will help the community to profit from bitcoin.

As to your genetic and cultural understanding abilities... they sucks and need to be improved....

Mori.S








 

Remember Al Capone , with violent and fear no one could put his hands on him. To take him down the government had
to find tax offense and jail him. In this manner the government has a good reason to get the info.
But they have to let the people do their staff freely.

Fuck paying taxes with bitcoin. Most of the older financial institutions (JP Morgan, Barclays etc) gained their early wealth from the profit of the slave trade, even today you have HSBC laundering money for Mexican cartels. None of the 1% pay their fair share in taxes so why should the average man in the street? I'm fine with my taxes going on education/healthcare/job creation, but I'm not happy with propping up failed greedy banks who have been ripping off (and bankrupting) their customers with dodgy mortgages/loans etc.

A UID for bitcoin, thats kind of against the point of bitcoin.

Former FinCEN Director Freis to Address the Virtual Currencies Community


OH NO!!!!

OP: No way

It just occurred to me that the sooner "BigBrother" actually stamps 666 on the foreheads of all the morons who think this way, the easier it will be for me to avoid them.  It's really sad that this includes the majority of the Bitcoin community at this point.

Seriously, though, you sound Asian, so there's likely a genetic or, at the very least, a deep cultural reason for you to want to appease the mandarins, but you should consider studying the way that free and independent people behave in the face of despots, and emulating that instead.

This passive-aggressive nonsense might have made sense when the mountains were high and the emperor was far away, but it doesn't work against an omnipresent "democratic" police state.  The ponzi scheme doesn't have to confiscate your Bitcoins in order for them to lose value.  They can take physical resources, and will.

We are reaching some critical crossroads in how society yearns to be governed.... faith in the political systems worldwide is crumbling from the inside out and from outside looking in. 

The likes of PRISM has just confirmed what we already knew. 

Uprisings and oustings of corrupt governments who have long been in collusion with financial organisations, have become 'commonplace' over the past few years.  This is the result of citizens of the world demanding more (or less) of those whom are gifted the responsibility of 'leading' the countries in question. 

These positions of privilege and duty are and have been abused, and the very systems that they control and implement too, are being abused.  As inflation and the cost of living rises worldwide, with earning capacities staying stationary, with more pressure on our disappearing resources around us, with more complications involved with ones freedom and liberty, including the very real fear of loosing ones financial security, all paths are leading towards a confrontation.  One where people question roles in society, systems that control us, burden us, limit us and confine us.

Bitcoin is one of just a few 'alternatives' that citizens of the world may just choose when these pressures become too much of a burden...

It sounds like a deal with the devil.
 
Governments never had so much control than today but they want more and more.
Crimes should be fighted more directly and not with intimidation of innocent citizens.
The governments should exist for the citizens and not the citizens for the governments.

As more news of the surveillance of the BigBrother are published daily and as
we understand that privacy is gone for 99.9% of the web users. We need to ask

how can we still protect our freedom?

We are demanding freedom in the constitution, free thinking and free acting as
ong as we do not harm the other. I would like to focus on the freedom to act.  as
in our modern world acting means using money to buy or change things around us.

But now we find that our money is not free ... and we are not sure that it is ours anymore.

Today keeping large amounts of money means using banks. Money that seats in the bank
is yours under condition. The BigBrother is the real owner of the money in the bank. He can
boycott it or freeze it he can decide to tax it or charge you for using it.

This power of the BigBrother is dangerous for our freedom as we know from our history
that the BigBrother can go bad.

Free people must take action to limit the power of the BigBrother in legal way while keeping
and protecting the valuable aspects of the democratic system. ( Anarchy is the worst thing
for freedom, as in anarchy the strong and violent will prevail and personal freedom
will be gone).

Bitcoin can limit  BigBrother's power as nobody can take it from you. they can hunt
you and imprison you but you can still hold your key and hold to your money. That makes
BitCoin a real alternative for our Dollars and Euros.

How can we make it a real alternative for real life trade and commercial use?

To answer that we have to understand what makes the BigBrother and the banks so afraid.
Let us start with the banks, they are going to loose billions in lost commissions they hate the
idea of free banking. This is why banks worldwide deliberately make problems in transferring
money to BitCoin projects.

The second is the BigBrother, well they have a stronger reason. Stopping Mafia and Terror money.
 Most people will agree with this idea (well I do). To protect our democratic nations we need
to fight crime and terror.

So does this reason kills BitCoin?

No it does not if we make the right steps toward global economy rules.
What are the rules that will make BitCoin more acceptable to the BigBrother? 

User ID is the answer!!!

User ID will make the BitCoin an acceptable alternative the governments and we will be
able to approve it use in world parliaments.If your wallet has a User ID it's can be
acceptable by the tax authorities. It can also be used for invoicing when working with
commercial partners.It can be used in courts to prove payments.

As the BigBrother have Prism in one hand and User ID in the other every transaction of
BitCoin is traceable the BigBrother will have it's security  requirements and the people
will have their free currency.

BitCoiners,  add the wallets with an User ID and make a major move into mainstream trade.

Mori.S