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Stephen Gornick

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Ounces of silver that one BTC will buy (Dec 1, 2011 through March 31, 2012):

Ounces of gold that one BTC will buy (Dec 1, 2011 through March 31, 2012):

Barrels of oil that one BTC will buy (Dec 1, 2011 through March 31, 2012):

The spreadsheet with the underlying data:
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmcTCtjBoRWUdHJuUE1mUkFxa3A0eHBDQkxZLVVFZmc

AndDuffy

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Against value itself.

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Quote from: AndDuffy on March 17, 2012, 05:04:24 PM

But as the dollar (and the Euro, and any other fiat) falls, bitcoin will skyrocket

Fall against what?

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Quote from: tvbcof on March 17, 2012, 07:35:49 PM

Quote from: bracek on March 17, 2012, 04:28:02 PM

which one could double first ?

Either could of course. The phrasing seems somewhat none-sense to me.

I'll say the odds are on Bitcoin doubling (measured in USD) first mostly because it's much more volatile and a doubling is much more within it's recent range. Of course Bitcoin could very easily be cut in half just as fast, and while possible, I don't see it happening for silver (but we can hope since I would be delighted at another buying opportunity.)

A more interesting question is: 'Which one has the potential to increase in constant dollar value by orders of magnitude?' The answer here would be Bitcoin, and that's a fair part of the reason why I'm sticking around.

Ditto.

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Quote from: bracek on March 17, 2012, 04:28:02 PM

which one could double first ?

Either could of course. The phrasing seems somewhat none-sense to me.

I'll say the odds are on Bitcoin doubling (measured in USD) first mostly because it's much more volatile and a doubling is much more within it's recent range. Of course Bitcoin could very easily be cut in half just as fast, and while possible, I don't see it happening for silver (but we can hope since I would be delighted at another buying opportunity.)

A more interesting question is: 'Which one has the potential to increase in constant dollar value by orders of magnitude?' The answer here would be Bitcoin, and that's a fair part of the reason why I'm sticking around.

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Quote from: waveaddict on March 17, 2012, 07:02:27 PM

Quote from: AndDuffy on March 17, 2012, 06:43:01 PM

Quote from: fcmatt on March 17, 2012, 06:29:54 PM

US dollar is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. When crap hits the storm people rush to the dollar (bonds).

Silver is severely over priced right now. Fair value is probably 15 dollars when you consider how much it
costs for it to come out of the ground and be sold.

Bitcoin would double before silver. Easy choice.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/pimco-bill-gross-qe3-inflation-muted-growth-way-115229488.html

Bonds are done.

Just because he has an opinion doesn't mean it is correct.

To be fair, that applies to all of us. We'll just have to see what happens.

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Quote from: AndDuffy on March 17, 2012, 06:43:01 PM

Quote from: fcmatt on March 17, 2012, 06:29:54 PM

US dollar is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. When crap hits the storm people rush to the dollar (bonds).

Silver is severely over priced right now. Fair value is probably 15 dollars when you consider how much it
costs for it to come out of the ground and be sold.

Bitcoin would double before silver. Easy choice.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/pimco-bill-gross-qe3-inflation-muted-growth-way-115229488.html

Bonds are done.

Bill Gross got his ass handed to him during the debt debate last fall when US yields collapsed. Just because he has an opinion doesn't mean it is correct.

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Quote from: fcmatt on March 17, 2012, 06:29:54 PM

US dollar is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. When crap hits the storm people rush to the dollar (bonds).

Silver is severely over priced right now. Fair value is probably 15 dollars when you consider how much it
costs for it to come out of the ground and be sold.

Bitcoin would double before silver. Easy choice.

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/pimco-bill-gross-qe3-inflation-muted-growth-way-115229488.html

Bonds are done.

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Quote from: fcmatt on March 17, 2012, 06:29:54 PM

US dollar is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. When crap hits the storm people rush to the dollar (bonds).

Silver is severely over priced right now. Fair value is probably 15 dollars when you consider how much it
costs for it to come out of the ground and be sold.

Bitcoin would double before silver. Easy choice.

agree

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US dollar is not going anywhere in our lifetimes. When crap hits the storm people rush to the dollar (bonds).

Silver is severely over priced right now. Fair value is probably 15 dollars when you consider how much it
costs for it to come out of the ground and be sold.

Bitcoin would double before silver. Easy choice.

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Quote from: Ente on March 17, 2012, 06:09:42 PM

Quote from: AndDuffy on March 17, 2012, 05:04:24 PM

As gold prices fall, silver will rise.

..first time ever I hear this hypothesis.
Most folks say that silver leads, gold follows. silver is more volatile with larger swings, but they shall both go the same direction.

However, historically, silver seems to be highly underrated, compared to gold.
However, bitcoin seems to be highly highly underrated compared to fiat ;-)

Ente

I think that right now, historical data doesn't count for much. People are beginning to completely distrust fiat altogether, so they're turning to metals. I think that gold has reached its peak (for now, until fiat collapses completely), and so people looking to retain their wealth are going to turn to silver.

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Quote from: AndDuffy on March 17, 2012, 05:04:24 PM

As gold prices fall, silver will rise.

..first time ever I hear this hypothesis.
Most folks say that silver leads, gold follows. silver is more volatile with larger swings, but they shall both go the same direction.

However, historically, silver seems to be highly underrated, compared to gold.
However, bitcoin seems to be highly highly underrated compared to fiat ;-)

Ente

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You should make this a poll.

Also, yeah. Bitcoin for sure. As gold prices fall, silver will rise. But as the dollar (and the Euro, and any other fiat) falls, bitcoin will skyrocket.

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Quote from: bracek on March 17, 2012, 04:28:02 PM

which one could double first ?

Bitcoin will double first, but both will double.

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which one could double first ?

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