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November 03, 2023, 09:49:54 AM
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In the past there were many mislabeled wallets as F2Pool. That pool has been around for a very long time and all these analysis companies make mistakes when they label them.

Most likely it’s an old hodler and he is moving to a new wallet which has better security. As long as they are not sent to an exchange, then I wouldn’t worry. The real worry will be when the MtGox coins move or when those seized coins start to move.

That is a lot of bitcoins, though I doubt they will be sending it to auction any time soon. Most of these bitcoin movements from old, dormant addresses aren't a concern these days especially if there's a good market movement that is happening on the background. You're right, the guy is probably just moving his stuff from one place to another in order to secure it even further. There's still a lot of uptrend potential given the market conditions right now that it's a waste to sell that much coins in today's exchange rate, unless that person is looking to get a mansion somewhere or take the hit and live comfortable for the rest of their lives.

What I think is that whatever is the reason for having transferred those bitcoins to another place , it may be that they have it as they say, better protected, but they also have them to transfer them more quickly to an exchange to make a very good movie We don't know, but these things put people on alert, because they probably want to do something, we are almost in December and it is very logical that there could be a good bitcoin rally, that's what I can think, it's my way of seeing it. The good things of 2023 are comin g, it would be very good but everything indicates that the best is around 2024 or at the end of 2024, and there is still a long way to go , for the most patient there is little left.
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Amazing.
These early mined Bitcoins has been kept for so long and these miners have cared for that how many years and they've got the patience to keep it for this long.
Anyway, if they're going to dump all of those then the wait is over but it could be higher in value if they're going to wait for the next bull run.


There is nothing here that could be described as "amazing", because some seem to forget that in the first 4 years of mining, miners were rewarded with as much as 50 BTC per block, and at that early stage it was possible to mine even with personal computers. Someone could have mined those 6500 BTC in just a few days, and I have no doubt that he didn't sell a good part of mined coins in the last bull runs.
For me, I am amazed with that. Maybe they've forgotten that for years but they could have moved that in the past years where there were also bull runs.

People who were lucky enough to mine in those times actually mined millions of BTC, and I think they saved a good part of it to this day.
And that's the amazing part for me that they seem to be lucky and they've just moved it now. The patience, maybe not the timing or they'd just transferred it and will hold for several months and years again but likely to sell some of it.
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Amazing.
These early mined Bitcoins has been kept for so long and these miners have cared for that how many years and they've got the patience to keep it for this long.
Anyway, if they're going to dump all of those then the wait is over but it could be higher in value if they're going to wait for the next bull run.


There is nothing here that could be described as "amazing", because some seem to forget that in the first 4 years of mining, miners were rewarded with as much as 50 BTC per block, and at that early stage it was possible to mine even with personal computers. Someone could have mined those 6500 BTC in just a few days, and I have no doubt that he didn't sell a good part of mined coins in the last bull runs.

People who were lucky enough to mine in those times actually mined millions of BTC, and I think they saved a good part of it to this day.
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Whatever is the reason of moving their bitcoins to another wallet it is not yet confirmed that they have move to the exchanges to sell it. These whales are more intelligent and have more knowledge then the common man, it is already obvious that Bitcoin halving is near and the Bitcoin will move to another all time high so why would they be selling all the bitcoins at a very cheap prices. It really doesn't make sense to sell now and I think we should not be panic by the movement of these coins from one wallet to the another specially at this stage of the market.
You might think they're more clever than we, but you don't really know what's on their minds today. sell BTC now still seems possible for everyone, even the whale's movements are hard to predict. We can anticipate the next bull run at the halving, but we've already moved from the $25k level to the recent $35k level... that means selling now is still a better option than it was two weeks ago.

What's even more remarkable is that there's not just one old wallet with a large balance... there are many wallets, and they could potentially lead to a relatively quick market dump. Plus, the accumulation by institutional investors always looms over price movements. When they decide to take profit, there's no avoiding that bearish market... like the BTC owned by MicroStrategy, for example. We dont know what they minds.
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In the past there were many mislabeled wallets as F2Pool. That pool has been around for a very long time and all these analysis companies make mistakes when they label them.

Most likely it’s an old hodler and he is moving to a new wallet which has better security. As long as they are not sent to an exchange, then I wouldn’t worry. The real worry will be when the MtGox coins move or when those seized coins start to move.
Mislabeling can be a reason on tip of iceberg and even I don't have evidence to say it is actual mistake by mislabeling or it is intentionally done to hype or fear the market.

Big transactions always are executed when market needs big news and only this is enough for me to have suspicious about those transactions. Whales have a lot of time to move their coins but why they don't do it when market does not need big news.

Those transactions as well as considerable changes in Exchange Inflow and Outflow can make the crowd overthink about a next movement, trend of the market. I consider it as a kind of market manipulation, from on chain movements to news on social media.
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Well, those people are already already rich, apart from the value of those Bitcoins, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to hold out for so long without selling even a part of them. I imagine that if they move them now it will be because they expect to sell with the expected price increase in the near future, no? I understand that this is the most likely scenario.
But why not just use let the coins stay to the original address? Wouldn't that still do the same thing? To me, this looks like there's an over the counter deal for those bitcoins and they don't want to leave any digital footprints of the money that they've got for the bitcoins.
Who cares?
Probably those people that bootlicks billionaires too, they're all delusional about this stuff like they daydream that they could probably be the whale and that they would probably do the same, they get off to this kind of stuff because they like the idea of at least being the whale in their dreams.

well how about the guy has 130,000 coins and has cut a deal needing cash at 230 million.  moving 6500 coins to cash them for a deal or even moving 6,500 in coins to the person that wants payment for the deal is as possible as any other  reason.
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In the past there were many mislabeled wallets as F2Pool. That pool has been around for a very long time and all these analysis companies make mistakes when they label them.

Most likely it’s an old hodler and he is moving to a new wallet which has better security. As long as they are not sent to an exchange, then I wouldn’t worry. The real worry will be when the MtGox coins move or when those seized coins start to move.

That is a lot of bitcoins, though I doubt they will be sending it to auction any time soon. Most of these bitcoin movements from old, dormant addresses aren't a concern these days especially if there's a good market movement that is happening on the background. You're right, the guy is probably just moving his stuff from one place to another in order to secure it even further. There's still a lot of uptrend potential given the market conditions right now that it's a waste to sell that much coins in today's exchange rate, unless that person is looking to get a mansion somewhere or take the hit and live comfortable for the rest of their lives.
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Bull season is fast approaching,  whales are warming up to explore the market to the fullest. I doubt any sensible and rational thinking whale will want to dumb such amount to btc now when the market looks like getting ready to a fun ride into the next ath.
Whales moving btc from one wallet to another or to an exchange wallet is nothing new especially now that market is looking alive.
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Amazing.

These early mined Bitcoins has been kept for so long and these miners have cared for that how many years and they've got the patience to keep it for this long.

Anyway, if they're going to dump all of those then the wait is over but it could be higher in value if they're going to wait for the next bull run.
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For me these whales have done more advertising for the HoDL strategy of investment and any other method of investment that any newbie would be willing to attempt for a duration of time. I like it when whale news like this comes, it more than encourages other investors to think long term and make projected plans for the future of their financial life and retirement.

Such whale movement would have somehow affected the Bitcoin market or slowed down transaction time for the movement from one wallet to another.
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I can't imagine how these whales feel seeing Bitcoin's journey from the beginning of their ownership of Bitcoin until now. And why are they only now starting to move their Bitcoin? Is it because of speculation about Bitcoin price rising above $100k?

Or they want to create a sensation among other investors, especially because we don't know who owns the Bitcoin. But that could be their thinking so they can immediately sell their Bitcoin and take the profits. But whatever the reason, only they know and we can only guess.

Will this make the price of Bitcoin increase or instead raise concerns that the price of Bitcoin could decline further? No one knows. Well, let's just wait and see what happens next.
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This is what is called investment. Hoarding and storing Bitcoin for a long time. 6,500 Bitcoins, if 12 years ago it might have only been worth hundreds of dollars, is now worth millions or even billions of dollars. Whoever the owner is, he understands the value of Bitcoin in the future and bravely takes the decision to continue holding it.
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Three Bitcoin whale addresses transferred 6,500 Bitcoins to new addresses, totaling about $230 million.

It's a huge amount and the best part? Some Bitcoins came from the wallet address marked as F2Pool by bitinfocharts, which may be early miners.
So these early miners have kept their 6.5k Bitcoin saved until now. 12 Years later, that's worth a freaking $230 Million Dollars.

IF they are not dumping then those transfer is fine since maybe they just want to move their hidden bitcoin to another wallet for security or other things they need especially that bull run is about to come. But eventhough there's nothing to worry about such movement they do still we need to watch how those balances move since if the owner will decide to cashout all of it  when bull run is already happening then maybe that's also a indicator for others that they should secure their profits to.

Lucky for those early miners before which still have stored bitcoins in their wallet since they really became so damn rich at  current price especially if they have the same like that or maybe even more larger volume on their wallets.
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I am astonished of the value of Bitcoin these whales are holding and I can only daydream that I am one of them...my life would then be so different. Anyway, I am wondering...are they moving these coins so they can sell once BTC will be reaching $100K by 2024? Well, we can only speculate since we are not the owners of these BTC. For whatever purpose they did this movement, let's see what they will do eventually.
You don't have to care what they are doing with their coins or what they would do eventually, if you moved your coins and people started looking into your tx, it could make you cringe, wouldn't it. I do not like threads that talk about 'whales' moving their BTC, it is their keys and they can move their coins when they like. We can take off our tinfoil hats for sometime and not try to link it with a conspiracy or speculation about bull or bear runs, it could just be people moving their coins.

The idea that could be interesting to discuss is that of 'lost coins'. The figure of 4 million lost BTC is surely just picked out of a hat, and i am so sure that there are so many coins that haven't moved for long time, and people think they are lost, but they are not, just the owners holding on for a long time.
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I am astonished of the value of Bitcoin these whales are holding and I can only daydream that I am one of them...my life would then be so different. Anyway, I am wondering...are they moving these coins so they can sell once BTC will be reaching $100K by 2024? Well, we can only speculate since we are not the owners of these BTC. For whatever purpose they did this movement, let's see what they will do eventually.
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We are going through a crucial phase wherein people are expecting bullrun and some while some are still skeptical about it and we might see more such new and I don't think we need to worry about it because these whales have been hodling on to these Bitcoin for years and there are thin possibility that they may sell and it's a general transfer of fund to an better option but if it's sent to an exchange and then moved out or sold that's when the problem start and no wise person would sell off at this point of time after hodling for so long unless new ATH which is multiple folds higher than previous ATH is achieved, don't buy any news that the market is going because I have already seen people pointing this to possible massive cashout or manipulation but trust me it's not true as there are just fuds
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Well, those people are already already rich, apart from the value of those Bitcoins, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to hold out for so long without selling even a part of them. I imagine that if they move them now it will be because they expect to sell with the expected price increase in the near future, no? I understand that this is the most likely scenario.

Yeah, agree. Retailers like us, all need to do In enable to meet up Is to know what and when these whales push out their money. Either I use DCA or Dual Investment. Anyone I think seems fit at that particular moment
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Seeing this thread just after reading this one; Are you tracking bulk Bitcoin transactions being sent by Whales.

And I maintain the reply I wrote there. Transactions are meant to be private and whale transactions shouldn't be an exception. Tracking this sort of transactions does not have an impact on Bitcoin or the market.
You are right it's private but it's posted in the public ledger anyway so you can't really help if there are curious people that are always filled with awe that this amount of bitcoin can move in a single transaction, as much as everyone wants to be an edgy crypto bro and say that we don't really care about it, it's not like they're hurting anybody maybe the stupendous amount of hype it generates can be annoying to some but we should just let people enjoy stuff if that's what they really like.
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Three Bitcoin whale addresses transferred 6,500 Bitcoins to new addresses, totaling about $230 million.
~snip~

Maybe James finally found his HDD in the junk pile Roll Eyes

Of course, you have to joke a little, because that amount is pretty insignificant one way or another, and it just proves that a lot of those coins that are marked as "lost" really aren't. I remember when a member of the forum did transactions of 40 000 BTC, and if we didn't get too excited about it then, we won't even today. Even if someone sells all 6500 BTC, in the total volume of daily trading that is over $25 billion, that's just a drop in the ocean that won't cause any waves.
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Three Bitcoin whale addresses transferred 6,500 Bitcoins to new addresses, totaling about $230 million.


https://twitter.com/WuBlockchain/status/1719915306817380473

It's a huge amount and the best part? Some Bitcoins came from the wallet address marked as F2Pool by bitinfocharts, which may be early miners.
So these early miners have kept their 6.5k Bitcoin saved until now. 12 Years later, that's worth a freaking $230 Million Dollars.

That is the power of patience. But still there is so much scope left that if you invest in Bitcoin now and wait for next 12 years, situation will be better than this particular example.
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Three Bitcoin whale addresses transferred 6,500 Bitcoins to new addresses, totaling about $230 million.

It's a huge amount and the best part? Some Bitcoins came from the wallet address marked as F2Pool by bitinfocharts, which may be early miners.
So these early miners have kept their 6.5k Bitcoin saved until now. 12 Years later, that's worth a freaking $230 Million Dollars.
Miners and very old miners like from F2Pool would have very strong belief in Bitcoin and they also have enough long experience to hold their bitcoins for future fortune.

If they already sold bitcoin enough to pay for mining cost, they are surely able to hold their rest for future. The cost of mining in the past would be cheaper than latest years like 2017 or this year. I am not surprised if they held their bitcoin so far but I feel surprised if someone (not miners) from the past did not lose their private keys.

At Bitinfocharts.com, after page 9, https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses-10.html there are many addresses with above 1000 BTC to 2000 BTC. How many of those dormant addresses will wake up from now till halving and about one year after halving?
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Whales often impress investors in the crypto/bitcoin world with the assets they own. Therefore, it is becoming easier for whales in the crypto/bitcoin world to manipulate the market. Because simply by transferring assets from a wallet to an exchange, other bitcoin investors may fear that the whale's bitcoin assets will be sold and this will cause the price of bitcoin to fall. But in my personal opinion, the step taken by whales to send bitcoin assets to exchanges, is most likely due to the fact that bitcoin will soon face a halving cycle as well as a bull market. So that way the whales send the bitcoin assets they own first.

Because if, for example, a whale sends the bitcoin assets it owns during a halving or when a bullish situation occurs, this will most likely cause greater panic among bitcoin investors and at the same time it is very likely that more bitcoin investors will sell their bitcoin assets. . because they are afraid that whales will sell their bitcoin assets first. So, if a whale sends bitcoin assets during a halving or when a bull market has occurred, it is likely that the whale will sell its bitcoin assets at a slightly lower price, because many investors have already sold their bitcoin assets. So in my personal opinion, this is why whales prefer to send the bitcoin assets they own before the halving and bull market occur. Because even if whales send their bitcoin assets to the exchange, bitcoin investors will definitely not panic. Because most bitcoin investors definitely have a sales target in the bullish market too.
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Well, those people are already already rich, apart from the value of those Bitcoins, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to hold out for so long without selling even a part of them. I imagine that if they move them now it will be because they expect to sell with the expected price increase in the near future, no? I understand that this is the most likely scenario.
But why not just use let the coins stay to the original address? Wouldn't that still do the same thing? To me, this looks like there's an over the counter deal for those bitcoins and they don't want to leave any digital footprints of the money that they've got for the bitcoins.
Who cares?
Probably those people that bootlicks billionaires too, they're all delusional about this stuff like they daydream that they could probably be the whale and that they would probably do the same, they get off to this kind of stuff because they like the idea of at least being the whale in their dreams.
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Who cares?

Whales are preparing themselves for a bull run soon, maybe that's what is being done, although it doesn't rule out the possibility that this is just a normal transfer due to security factors and so on, but the one who knows for sure the purpose of moving a large number of coins is the owner, but I don't think he will sell the coin at once if you really want to sell it, because 12 years of keeping it has taught the owner a lesson about how profitable it is to keep BTC for longer.

And how is moving your money to a different address considered preparing for a bull run?

If someone from this forum moved their funds to a new wallet, which gets noticed by some social media "influencer", the crypto community would still go ruckus and buy/sell some coins.

Bitcoin is not like most of the smaller coins, where a movement this large could potentially kill the entire blockchain.
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Seeing this thread just after reading this one; Are you tracking bulk Bitcoin transactions being sent by Whales.

And I maintain the reply I wrote there. Transactions are meant to be private and whale transactions shouldn't be an exception. Tracking this sort of transactions does not have an impact on Bitcoin or the market.
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Whales are preparing themselves for a bull run soon, maybe that's what is being done, although it doesn't rule out the possibility that this is just a normal transfer due to security factors and so on, but the one who knows for sure the purpose of moving a large number of coins is the owner, but I don't think he will sell the coin at once if you really want to sell it, because 12 years of keeping it has taught the owner a lesson about how profitable it is to keep BTC for longer.
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Well, those people are already already rich, apart from the value of those Bitcoins, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to hold out for so long without selling even a part of them. I imagine that if they move them now it will be because they expect to sell with the expected price increase in the near future, no? I understand that this is the most likely scenario.

Whatever is the reason of moving their bitcoins to another wallet it is not yet confirmed that they have move to the exchanges to sell it. These whales are more intelligent and have more knowledge then the common man, it is already obvious that Bitcoin halving is near and the Bitcoin will move to another all time high so why would they be selling all the bitcoins at a very cheap prices. It really doesn't make sense to sell now and I think we should not be panic by the movement of these coins from one wallet to the another specially at this stage of the market.

Yes if Bitcoin was near its all time high or in a bull market we are at the peak of the next bull market and then these move happens then that is a time to be a bit more careful but not at this time at least.
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Well, we know that we are on the brink of a Bitcoin pump and people predict that it is going to beat the last All-Time-High (ATH) price, so I guess some of the early Bitcoiners are getting ready for that.  Wink

A lot of people think this is just a movement of coins out of Cold storage by old miners to cash in on the free coins that were generated by the forks, because those forked coins are more valuable now.  Wink
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Most likely it’s an old hodler and he is moving to a new wallet which has better security. As long as they are not sent to an exchange, then I wouldn’t worry. The real worry will be when the MtGox coins move or when those seized coins start to move.
I think that this is a better explanation, and it will become more certain if he conducts a small or experimental transaction before sending the money, although I think that someone who has been patient for this long period may be more greedy in waiting for a longer period, especially if she/he is a young.

To my understanding most of these whales are mostly businesses and the wallet used to generate the seed or keys could have be a wallet they don’t trust much again, a clear example could be hardware wallets that are changing policies. Or probably the wallet is a multi sig and owners hand needs to change so they created new one and moved it there.
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Why now? It is a loss double the amount if the sale was made after several months, especially since you waited for many years. You will certainly be patient for several months, even if it is an emergency.

Most likely it’s an old hodler and he is moving to a new wallet which has better security. As long as they are not sent to an exchange, then I wouldn’t worry. The real worry will be when the MtGox coins move or when those seized coins start to move.
I think that this is a better explanation, and it will become more certain if he conducts a small or experimental transaction before sending the money, although I think that someone who has been patient for this long period may be more greedy in waiting for a longer period, especially if she/he is a young.
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In the past there were many mislabeled wallets as F2Pool. That pool has been around for a very long time and all these analysis companies make mistakes when they label them.

Most likely it’s an old hodler and he is moving to a new wallet which has better security. As long as they are not sent to an exchange, then I wouldn’t worry. The real worry will be when the MtGox coins move or when those seized coins start to move.
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Well, those people are already already rich, apart from the value of those Bitcoins, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to hold out for so long without selling even a part of them. I imagine that if they move them now it will be because they expect to sell with the expected price increase in the near future, no? I understand that this is the most likely scenario.
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Three Bitcoin whale addresses transferred 6,500 Bitcoins to new addresses, totaling about $230 million.


https://twitter.com/WuBlockchain/status/1719915306817380473

It's a huge amount and the best part? Some Bitcoins came from the wallet address marked as F2Pool by bitinfocharts, which may be early miners.
So these early miners have kept their 6.5k Bitcoin saved until now. 12 Years later, that's worth a freaking $230 Million Dollars.
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