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June 21, 2021, 08:53:33 AM
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After today's fall in prices in the market, including the fall in the price of bitcoin to the current $ 31,391, it is hardly worth hoping for a quick price recovery,
You know cryptocurrency price always fall, and i just seen it as nature of cryptocurrencies, bitcoin price changes like what we can't hold or have at hand, early the year the price reach 60k people were happy, so since it has fall to this extent their is hope, and their is every tendency that it will raise, it's obvious that recovery of bitcoin price can come up unexpectedly, ok at from yesterday the price was 34k but the is price 32k, so the price is not fixed
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30k must be protected or that’s another leg down making the case for the down trend stronger.  And all this right in the middle of Saylor announcing that he bought a shitton of BTC at around 37k.  Lol.  He should give his traders the sack and kick them out.

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Still no clear direction on the trend. It always goes to a pattern of dump during weekends then pump during mid weekdays. But in long time frame, Bitcoin is already below the trend line which is bearish, It just need to hit that resistance again and if its failed to breach, we will see another drop to the next support.
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Again that’s the thing, is BTC really gonna continue trending up without rhyme or reason except just because it’s the year after the halving?  What about the demand side of things?  Isn’t demand still a huge factor why these things get pumped in the first place?
It is simply increasing adoption that has ever led to price rise and will continue to do so, in other words the continued up-trend is not without reason. Things such as halving, etc. are contributing to the rise for example in this case it ensures the supply is capped and also the production rate is cut by 50% which has to show itself on the market somehow.

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But yeah, the sell down seems to be slowing down for now. 
At the same time the 48 hours I mentioned before is over and the momentum couldn't shape either so the market continues going sideways!
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In the year following halving ask a question like this? Has no one learned anything from the example of 2017 or is it confirmed once again that people nowadays have a very short memory?



Someone is trying to trick you again, and most have just accepted their game and in the end you will be left with empty pockets, and they will buy new yachts and luxury residences. I'm totally bullish this year, no matter the price - there's something in the money, but still Bitcoin should be a lot more than that, right?


Again that’s the thing, is BTC really gonna continue trending up without rhyme or reason except just because it’s the year after the halving?  What about the demand side of things?  Isn’t demand still a huge factor why these things get pumped in the first place?

But yeah, the sell down seems to be slowing down for now. 
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for now, to be honest if it is very difficult to predict where the market will move, because negative and positive sentiments about the market keep happening over and over again, for example like the rejection by China and Elon Musk against bitcoin which makes the market continue to fall and currently el salvador has adopted bitcoin in their country so the bitcoin price initially increased a bit, but the fact is now the market back to conditions have deteriorated a bit, so I honestly don't dare say what will happen in the future Cry Cry
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And here we are today looking like maybe we are ready for another 40k test:)

Bitcoin looks up again and is trying to get past the $40k price, hopefully now Bitcoin can get past the $40k resistance price. But if it still fails to
cross the $40k price, and the Bitcoin price drops again, I'm still optimistic that Bitcoin hasn't entered a bear market yet. Because I believe
if crypto is bearish the price will drop below $20k, if it's still above $20k, I believe Bitcoin is still in a bullish trend.

I guess a lot more profit taking happened so we are now back again down in the middle of 30-40. Asians markets are selling I also can see so we need to see what happens in a few more hours when the other side of the world starts considering positions for the weekend.

I agree, for me above 20k is still bullish but it would be really weird to see us go below that again.
$40k is a big test, but so far we have failed, like what 5 or 6 times already.

And then we go on the $32k levels again, at least we have bounce back to $36k, but still short term the market sentiments turn to be bearish, although we have hear El Salvador at least accepting bitcoin as legal tender.

In any case, let's see how it goes at the end of the year, we might crack a new all time high, or better, a 6 digits in the horizon.
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And here we are today looking like maybe we are ready for another 40k test:)

Bitcoin looks up again and is trying to get past the $40k price, hopefully now Bitcoin can get past the $40k resistance price. But if it still fails to
cross the $40k price, and the Bitcoin price drops again, I'm still optimistic that Bitcoin hasn't entered a bear market yet. Because I believe
if crypto is bearish the price will drop below $20k, if it's still above $20k, I believe Bitcoin is still in a bullish trend.

I guess a lot more profit taking happened so we are now back again down in the middle of 30-40. Asians markets are selling I also can see so we need to see what happens in a few more hours when the other side of the world starts considering positions for the weekend.

I agree, for me above 20k is still bullish but it would be really weird to see us go below that again.
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It’s “Bearish” in that the price surged to an ATH of $60,000, then crashed to $30,000 in one month. There were liquidations, losses, life altering financial situations after that crash. From that standpoint, then it’s definitely “bearish”.


If there is anyone out there that thinks this way then they are changing the definition of being "bearish" since one drop doesn't define a bear market and most definitely not in bitcoin market. If you look at the charts now from $60k to $30k was not even a "trend" they dumped it in only 4 days. That is not normal in any sense let alone be a trend and bearish.


I was not trying to change any definition of any market terminology. I said it’s just merely from “their standpoint”, or maybe their current “mood” that makes the market “look or feel bearish”.



I believe this picture describes what I’m trying to say to you. BUT ZOOM OUT, did their standpoint truly matter?
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wow it's really interesting to see the poll here, many people still say bearish, but I'm still bullish on it,
because many countries have started adopting bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies,
remember some big companies want bitcoin prices to fall and they can buy it, yes they do are whales,
of course this will be a game before the pump happens
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Lets take 2017 for example, if you ask anyone today about 2017 they will say without a doubt that 2017 was a bull market. However we have had many big dumps from 30% to 50% just like we have this year and yet people call 2017 bullish! If you analyze the market all those dumps were similar to this dump, a fast and short lived dump that was the result of market manipulation for additional accumulation of cheap bitcoins before the ATH was reached not a trend.

People are so convinced that BTC has fired all the ammunition for this year and that crypto winter is knocking on the door - and everyone is looking at one narrow picture without even wanting to consider something that happened in the past - and it is very similar to the situation we have today. There is no doubt that it is very easy to manipulate the crypto market, and this time the real whales do it really with style - they chose the perfect moment, they profited, and now they accumulate coins for the next big payout.

Honestly, I'm not sorry that 95% of investors lose money - so many years and patterns of behavior, and they have not learned anything yet. Smart people would say Historia est magistra vitae, others should stick to the fact that history does not always repeat itself - history will tell who will do better in the end.
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It’s “Bearish” in that the price surged to an ATH of $60,000, then crashed to $30,000 in one month. There were liquidations, losses, life altering financial situations after that crash. From that standpoint, then it’s definitely “bearish”.
If there is anyone out there that thinks this way then they are changing the definition of being "bearish" since one drop doesn't define a bear market and most definitely not in bitcoin market. If you look at the charts now from $60k to $30k was not even a "trend" they dumped it in only 4 days. That is not normal in any sense let alone be a trend and bearish.

Lets take 2017 for example, if you ask anyone today about 2017 they will say without a doubt that 2017 was a bull market. However we have had many big dumps from 30% to 50% just like we have this year and yet people call 2017 bullish! If you analyze the market all those dumps were similar to this dump, a fast and short lived dump that was the result of market manipulation for additional accumulation of cheap bitcoins before the ATH was reached not a trend.

Speaking of actions vs words price just reached $38k and things are getting interesting to watch. Next 48 hours will determine a lot of things.
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I disagree too, that’s why I put the “quotes”. Plus for the right context, quote my whole post. I said coiners have always been inconsistent, and we can immediately change sentiment from “bearish” to “bullish”. OP, should zoom out and ask himself if the long term trajectory is “bearish”. Haha. Cool
But even zoomed in if we focus on the short term market behavior we can see that whatever the market sentiment is it is not bearish which is surprising when people say one thing (like those voting for bearish or others who commented on it) and yet they don't behave bearish at all.


It’s “Bearish” in that the price surged to an ATH of $60,000, then crashed to $30,000 in one month. There were liquidations, losses, life altering financial situations after that crash. From that standpoint, then it’s definitely “bearish”.
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And here we are today looking like maybe we are ready for another 40k test:)

Bitcoin looks up again and is trying to get past the $40k price, hopefully now Bitcoin can get past the $40k resistance price. But if it still fails to
cross the $40k price, and the Bitcoin price drops again, I'm still optimistic that Bitcoin hasn't entered a bear market yet. Because I believe
if crypto is bearish the price will drop below $20k, if it's still above $20k, I believe Bitcoin is still in a bullish trend.
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I disagree too, that’s why I put the “quotes”. Plus for the right context, quote my whole post. I said coiners have always been inconsistent, and we can immediately change sentiment from “bearish” to “bullish”. OP, should zoom out and ask himself if the long term trajectory is “bearish”. Haha. Cool
But even zoomed in if we focus on the short term market behavior we can see that whatever the market sentiment is it is not bearish which is surprising when people say one thing (like those voting for bearish or others who commented on it) and yet they don't behave bearish at all.
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I voted for bearish because that is the reality. But I don't believe sentiment always plays a part, it just follows the domino effect of the biggest influencer sentiments (and I don't mean youtube influencers) in both directions.

So it can easily change, as long as there is enough big influence to make a positive wave, people will follow.


It’s also the reality that sentiment changes instantly to bullish after another surge that FOMOs everyone to $50,000/new ATH. Then does the current “bearish” sentiment truly matter? “Coiners” are an insconsistent kind of people. You have been given another opportunity. TAKE IT!

Indeed! Not many of my friends know I'm into crypto, and of those even fewer probably come close to knowing just how involved I am but when I hear them all chatter and talk, they are so affected by these that they miss out on opportunities and lose money. They probably would have more than me even if they held but they always bought a lot and sold in panic (at least if they really told the truth).

And here we are today looking like maybe we are ready for another 40k test:)
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OP, the current “sentiment” is clearly “bearish”,
I disagree. The sentiment is bullish or undecided not bearish. If it were bearish we would have seen mass sell offs and a huge increase in shorts which we clearly isn't seeing. Even over the past 30 hours we witnessed a lot of sell manipulation that could only take the price as low as $32k and it jumped back up to $37k again. If the sentiment were really "bearish" then it should have escalated into more sells and price should have been $25k by now which isn't clearly happening.

BTW the votes and comments, even though entertaining, they don't matter. What matters is what same people do in the market.


I disagree too, that’s why I put the “quotes”. Plus for the right context, quote my whole post. I said coiners have always been inconsistent, and we can immediately change sentiment from “bearish” to “bullish”. OP, should zoom out and ask himself if the long term trajectory is “bearish”. Haha. Cool
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Before I voted I assumed most people would vote bearish. The sentiment here and everywhere is that many people are bearish on bitcoin. And this is why in the short term its bullish, however medium term its most likely bearish.

I think if we go back to $50K one more time, most people will become bullish again and think $64K will break and $100K will be the next spot. However most likely what will happen most whales and institutions and that Saylor guy will all exit their positions at $50K and then we might be bearish again because everyone is bullish.

Basically do the complete opposite of the market sentiment. This is one reason why its very difficult to earn a living as a day trader.
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Just wondering what the regulars of Bitcointalk think about the market rn.  And if you answered ‘bullish’ please drop a line telling us why and at what price range will you start going bearish.
I am not expert on TA but with the fundamental news that comes out such as Microstrategy is adding some bitcoin investment worth $500million is like a super bullish indicator. Also some renounced individual during Bitcoin miami expressed their sentiment over bitcoin.

https://www.microstrategy.com/en/investor-relations/press/microstrategy-announces-pricing-of-offering-of-senior-secured-notes_06-08-2021

Jack Dorsey founder of twitter too are planning to make a hardware wallet for bitcoin and some incoming development .for blockchain. Such news mentioned is so strong to be on a bearish sentiment.

https://twitter.com/Square/status/1401222539494387713?s=19

And also the recent news about the adoption of Bitcoin on El Salvador.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57398274.amp


So did I voted on bullish.
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OP, the current “sentiment” is clearly “bearish”,
I disagree. The sentiment is bullish or undecided not bearish. If it were bearish we would have seen mass sell offs and a huge increase in shorts which we clearly isn't seeing. Even over the past 30 hours we witnessed a lot of sell manipulation that could only take the price as low as $32k and it jumped back up to $37k again. If the sentiment were really "bearish" then it should have escalated into more sells and price should have been $25k by now which isn't clearly happening.

BTW the votes and comments, even though entertaining, they don't matter. What matters is what same people do in the market.
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Bearish, you can't call a prolonged 45% decline from ATH "just a dip". After the crash we already failed to retake the $40k psychological level, we might try again now, with all these country adoption news, but if this fails, we'll start testing the $30k support.

There's no rule that says that Bitcoin will keep rising as fast as it did after the previous halvenings, so we might have to accept that this bull run was smaller than the previous ones in terms of relative growth. The important thing that Bitcoin is still growing, so everyone will make some profit in long term.
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For the short to mid term I have no idea. Could definitely see the price over the next few months dropping into the 20s for a bit or staying roughly in the 30s as the price bottoms. Though it also wouldn't surprise me to see price move back over like $45k by end of July. Slightly longer term though definitely bullish. I think this is just a break in the bull market. Expect price to be hitting ATHs again by end of year, or at least heading back up there. For now at least I've cashed out my trading stash and just gonna sit and wait, either get in real low in the 20s or wait until a clear uptrend sends it over $45k. Long term portfolio, as always, unaffected.
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In the year following halving ask a question like this? Has no one learned anything from the example of 2017 or is it confirmed once again that people nowadays have a very short memory?



Someone is trying to trick you again, and most have just accepted their game and in the end you will be left with empty pockets, and they will buy new yachts and luxury residences. I'm totally bullish this year, no matter the price - there's something in the money, but still Bitcoin should be a lot more than that, right?
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I'm really hoping it will be bullish but my monthly chart is rather giving a different picture to me and the bear is surprisingly down that I can imagine. I hope a reversal will happen like positive update or news that can change the swing down. I see below $20,000 and further down to around $12,000. Well it was also unbelievable in 2018 when price slumped badly to $3,500.



Price on a monthly chart and the red line is the area it may get to if bear continues.
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Well as someone who invested when it crashed last year, it looks pretty bullish to me. Ofc, in the past 6 months it's showing bearish signs but as someone who wants to hold long term, it's not really the area that I'm actually looking at. I'd go for bearish once it goes back to $15 maybe $20k. At that time, it wouldn't be surprising if a lot of people actually went ahead and quit since a lot of people actually invested in the market when it was at quite a high price. Would be quite expected for them to actually panic.
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I voted for bearish because that is the reality. But I don't believe sentiment always plays a part, it just follows the domino effect of the biggest influencer sentiments (and I don't mean youtube influencers) in both directions.

So it can easily change, as long as there is enough big influence to make a positive wave, people will follow.


It’s also the reality that sentiment changes instantly to bullish after another surge that FOMOs everyone to $50,000/new ATH. Then does the current “bearish” sentiment truly matter? “Coiners” are an insconsistent kind of people. You have been given another opportunity. TAKE IT!
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Even if all of us wants to go to moon, bitcoin is struggling these past few weeks and keeps rejecting resistance. There is not enough volume to reach $50k at this point so I'm also at the bear side even if I don't like it. Fuds few weeks ago is also a factor why the market is undecided. Small investors are scared to buy now as the price can go low as $20k based on the rumors. Some even say we are already in a bear market and crypto will pump again in few years.
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I voted for bearish because that is the reality. But I don't believe sentiment always plays a part, it just follows the domino effect of the biggest influencer sentiments (and I don't mean youtube influencers) in both directions.

So it can easily change, as long as there is enough big influence to make a positive wave, people will follow.
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OP, the current “sentiment” is clearly “bearish”, but zoom out and look where Bitcoin’s TRUE LONG TERM trajectory is going? Plebs like us should be bery very excited for this golden opportunity given for us to buy this dip, and coming dips. It’s a GIFT!
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This would be a real bearish one as the range looks right at $20k or lower in my view.
I can only conclude that FUD does not allow bitcoin to move so that this fall will continue, but after I continue to observe the market but the decline will not be all at once and some investors will certainly continue to hold on to the price they bought but when something else happens what makes bitcoin broken again will surely fall again, this sentiment is still not strong and we must strengthen the foundation again.
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i will only go bearish if price drops down to the $20k range and stays there for at least a week otherwise i remain undecided and am mostly buying bitcoin whenever it dips a little touching the bottom repeatedly and wait for the bull run to resume.
It seems right that Bitcoin will at a price range of $20k within a few months or it might stay with that range throughout this year.
Based on the site that I mostly visit when I want to predict the market, it's Bitcoin Price Prediction..., it says there that we might encounter long blood bath in the market so it might be a Bearish trend will be waving ahead IMO.  So I voted for Bearish.

But that's only my own prediction and it will remain there since no one will accurately predict the market.  It could be there's from others who can give a good technical explanation on this.

However, I will wait for Bitcoin will reach that price range of $20k, it might be that's a good investment point.
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After today's fall in prices in the market, including the fall in the price of bitcoin to the current $ 31,391, it is hardly worth hoping for a quick price recovery...

Fixed it for ya  Wink
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i will only go bearish if price drops down to the $20k range and stays there for at least a week otherwise i remain undecided and am mostly buying bitcoin whenever it dips a little touching the bottom repeatedly and wait for the bull run to resume.
After today's fall in prices in the market, including the fall in the price of bitcoin to the current $ 31,391, it is hardly worth hoping for a quick price recovery, and given that it will soon be a month since the cryptocurrency market collapsed, this period cannot be called bullish either. It should be admitted that this period has been bearish for almost a month and it will remain at least until autumn. Summer has come, and during this period, traditionally, business activity in all markets dies out. In the current situation, the price may fall further. Therefore, we take care of our cryptocurrency assets and relax.
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Wintessing the current market trend it seems to be bearish at the moment although it had shown some past sign of recovery but again the market is red again due to all this mess up of crypto market.But this trend is going to end soon when market will have funds inflows and stable conditions with support from investors above $35k which can be pushed through small retail investors or if MicroStrategy purchased another $455 million in btc after selling bonds to public for funds raising.So you still have time and perfect prices for investment bull run will hit soon.
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i will only go bearish if price drops down to the $20k range and stays there for at least a week otherwise i remain undecided and am mostly buying bitcoin whenever it dips a little touching the bottom repeatedly and wait for the bull run to resume.
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Just wondering what the regulars of Bitcointalk think about the market rn.  And if you answered ‘bullish’ please drop a line telling us why and at what price range will you start going bearish.
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