Bitcointalk User Joust, attempted to scam my Sig campaign.

JosIzem

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I think he should be given a chance QS, bro c'mon reply at least here when the guy admitted it right away, I personall feel a hance should be given

give him a neutral one mate, you should act like a human bro not robot

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We all do mistakes sometimes, havent you done any ever ? Wink

Note : I personally felt sometimes that jouse was a signature spammer earlier, so maybe negative feedback is right. Made posts in my thread and were weird.

joust

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Quote from: BTCBLOGGER on September 02, 2015, 06:19:50 AM

Quote from: joust on September 02, 2015, 06:13:50 AM

Quote from: BTCBLOGGER on September 02, 2015, 05:57:57 AM

Quote from: joust on August 31, 2015, 04:05:35 PM

Quote from: Der Tod on August 31, 2015, 04:00:09 PM

now OP try to buy a new full member account

What is wrong about that? Am i not allowed to do that?

Where is that rule?

Regards,
Joust

you can't change someone's view towards you until you make a big deal with him to tell that you have lot of money and small amount like 0.05 doesn't matter much it was just a foolish mistake from your side.

What do you mean by that?

Regards,
Joust

I mean to say it is impossible to change the view of quickseller towards you after this kind of big mistake.

Yes, i take full responsibility for my things i did, so i am not mad at quickseller, i think he is right.

Regards,
Joust

BTCBLOGGER

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Quote from: joust on September 02, 2015, 06:13:50 AM

Quote from: BTCBLOGGER on September 02, 2015, 05:57:57 AM

Quote from: joust on August 31, 2015, 04:05:35 PM

Quote from: Der Tod on August 31, 2015, 04:00:09 PM

now OP try to buy a new full member account

What is wrong about that? Am i not allowed to do that?

Where is that rule?

Regards,
Joust

you can't change someone's view towards you until you make a big deal with him to tell that you have lot of money and small amount like 0.05 doesn't matter much it was just a foolish mistake from your side.

What do you mean by that?

Regards,
Joust

I mean to say it is impossible to change the view of quickseller towards you after this kind of big mistake.

joust

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Quote from: BTCBLOGGER on September 02, 2015, 05:57:57 AM

Quote from: joust on August 31, 2015, 04:05:35 PM

Quote from: Der Tod on August 31, 2015, 04:00:09 PM

now OP try to buy a new full member account

What is wrong about that? Am i not allowed to do that?

Where is that rule?

Regards,
Joust

you can't change someone's view towards you until you make a big deal with him to tell that you have lot of money and small amount like 0.05 doesn't matter much it was just a foolish mistake from your side.

What do you mean by that?

Regards,
Joust

BTCBLOGGER

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Quote from: joust on August 31, 2015, 04:05:35 PM

Quote from: Der Tod on August 31, 2015, 04:00:09 PM

now OP try to buy a new full member account

What is wrong about that? Am i not allowed to do that?

Where is that rule?

Regards,
Joust

you can't change someone's view towards you until you make a big deal with him to tell that you have lot of money and small amount like 0.05 doesn't matter much it was just a foolish mistake from your side.

nydiacaskey01

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Quote from: arallmuus on August 31, 2015, 04:38:49 AM

Siding with negative trust on this. The fact is still that he tried to scam. Another fact is that it seems he admitted this because he was found out and the scam attempt was unsuccessful , it will not be like this if he wasnt found out . Also the reason behind this scam attempt is pretty much weird, addicted to something doesnt mean that it will be a reason for you to commit a crime or whatsoever

P.S : Even candystripes admitted his mistakes before by making a thread and public apology but still the negative trust remain so there is no point in putting neutral for this user

After reading this, yes agree red trust should remain.
I remember reading OP's post on their camps thread stating that joust removed his signature without notice.
That should be a courtesy given to the campaign manager.

tarsua

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Quote from: joust on August 30, 2015, 10:49:12 AM

Quote from: coinableS on August 30, 2015, 10:48:03 AM

It takes a lot to admit fault and wrong doing. At least he is doing that. Sounds like he just made a bad choice and is not like your typical scammer that disappears never to be heard from again.

Thank you for understanding my situation, i will do everything to make this right.. So tell me what to do?

you do nothing, lets take a page out of your own book

Quote from: joust on August 28, 2015, 11:40:20 AM

Too late to excuse now, once a scammer always a scammer Sad

A shame to have such people in the community!

Regards,
Joust

and to think u wrote that a day before you became a scammer

subSTRATA

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Quote from: malphite on August 31, 2015, 09:43:57 PM

Its shame people are pretty desperate, but not hes in a worse situation before since he got negged.

How does one still get invovled even with negged rep cause i notice hes still in another campaign lol. people pay negged accounts wth?

some campaigns do, i know that yobit accepts pretty much about anyone and i think they pay for just about any post, even the spammy ones. the cloudmining.website campaign pays negged members as well, but at a lowered rate. not sure if their campaign still around though, think they are.

malphite

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Its shame people are pretty desperate, but not hes in a worse situation before since he got negged.

How does one still get invovled even with negged rep cause i notice hes still in another campaign lol. people pay negged accounts wth?

subSTRATA

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Quote from: Der Tod on August 31, 2015, 04:00:09 PM

now OP try to buy a new full member account

thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-a-full-member-account-1167490

Quote from: joust on August 31, 2015, 04:05:35 PM

Quote from: Der Tod on August 31, 2015, 04:00:09 PM

now OP try to buy a new full member account

What is wrong about that? Am i not allowed to do that?

Where is that rule?

Regards,
Joust

nothing wrong with that, but considering this thread, it makes people think that youre going to use that bought full member account to pull off another attempt on scamming a sig campaign or something. you can say "oh i wont do it again," but you did only admit to attempting to cheat the campaign only after being caught. nothing says you wont do the same with the next account, especially since you made that thread only after it became apparent the defaults werent going to remove their -ve tags on you.

joust

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Quote from: Der Tod on August 31, 2015, 04:00:09 PM

now OP try to buy a new full member account

What is wrong about that? Am i not allowed to do that?

Where is that rule?

Regards,
Joust

Der Tod

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now OP try to buy a new full member account

GannickusX

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Quote from: Mitchell on August 31, 2015, 08:21:33 AM

If QS removes his negative trust, I'll add a negative trust myself as I totally agree with what arallmuus says. Admitting because people found out that you scammed/wanted to scam, doesn't mean you deserve a negative trust. You aren't trustworthy and thus deserve a nice red.

Yep and with the red trust people can see it better, at least newbies since it appears in red, the neutral one wont appear unless you go to his profile and then to trust.

Mitchell

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If QS removes his negative trust, I'll add a negative trust myself as I totally agree with what arallmuus says. Admitting because people found out that you scammed/wanted to scam, doesn't mean you deserve a negative trust. You aren't trustworthy and thus deserve a nice red.

arallmuus

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Siding with negative trust on this. The fact is still that he tried to scam. Another fact is that it seems he admitted this because he was found out and the scam attempt was unsuccessful , it will not be like this if he wasnt found out . Also the reason behind this scam attempt is pretty much weird, addicted to something doesnt mean that it will be a reason for you to commit a crime or whatsoever

P.S : Even candystripes admitted his mistakes before by making a thread and public apology but still the negative trust remain so there is no point in putting neutral for this user

ndnh

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My vote on neutral trust.

Come on, give him a chance to improve. Tongue

There should be some difference between a position in which he had scammed OP, and refused to admit it, than this.

nydiacaskey01

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A neutral trust will do in my opinion rather than a negative one, at least give him a chance since its his first strike. He admitted his mistakes, he admitted his addiction and he is even willing to go around the forum with that negative negative feedback on. If he is a serial scammer, he can easily buy a new account and strike again. But at the end of the day it's QS and EMs decision if those red flags will stay or change. World peace everyone

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Quote from: Rmcdermott927 on August 30, 2015, 11:10:28 AM

Quote from: Mitchell on August 30, 2015, 10:58:07 AM

Quote from: everaja on August 30, 2015, 10:51:17 AM

Hey QS i guess a neutral warning would be fine rather than a negative one , if you really wanna warn others about him , just leave a neutral warning.

he at least realized his mistake , gambling has taken much life .

I'm going to side with QS on this. I think that the joust deserves the negative trust. You broke your end of an agreement by switching to another signature campaign before the period was after, after which you try to get paid for something you don't deserve. He even had the nerve to ask to be paid for more posts than he made. joust also admitted to be a gambling addict, so you shouldn't trust this user with any money. Ever.

Realizing your mistake doesn't change the situation. If I (tried to) scammed people out of their BTC and admitted and apologized for doing so, it wouldn't make it right. It shows that I'm a bad person and that I shouldn't be trusted with someone's money.

While I agree with the first part of your statement, I don't agree with the second part. I do not think he is a bad person. Addiction makes you do things that you would normally not do. As I said before, I have struggled with other addictions in my life in the past and did some things that I never would have done otherwise. I am not a bad person, far from it.

fact remains that joust may have claimed addiction as an excuse to try to get out of this situation seeing as how he asked you to remove this thread with admitting that to you via pm. however, in the case that he is telling the truth, fact remains that he is an addict, and is liable to try something like this again. as you said yourself, addiction makes you do things you wouldnt do under normal circumstances. im agreeing with QS to keep the -ve on there.

joust

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Quote from: Rmcdermott927 on August 30, 2015, 10:52:35 AM

Quote from: joust on August 30, 2015, 10:49:12 AM

Quote from: coinableS on August 30, 2015, 10:48:03 AM

It takes a lot to admit fault and wrong doing. At least he is doing that. Sounds like he just made a bad choice and is not like your typical scammer that disappears never to be heard from again.

Thank you for understanding my situation, i will do everything to make this right.. So tell me what to do?

It's not about making things right with me. It's about making things right with yourself. Any addiction WILL take over your life. I have struggled with similar issues in the past. Get yourself some help before it ruins your life worse than just harming your reputation on an internet forum. I will remove my feedback as I do legitimately feel sorry for you. It is up to the others if they wish to do the same.

Thank you for removing negative trust, i hope QS will do this also and make it a neutral trust warning, anyways, I am looking for some proffesional help on this. Anyone has had experience with this?

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Quote from: Mitchell on August 30, 2015, 10:58:07 AM

Quote from: everaja on August 30, 2015, 10:51:17 AM

Hey QS i guess a neutral warning would be fine rather than a negative one , if you really wanna warn others about him , just leave a neutral warning.

he at least realized his mistake , gambling has taken much life .

I'm going to side with QS on this. I think that the joust deserves the negative trust. You broke your end of an agreement by switching to another signature campaign before the period was after, after which you try to get paid for something you don't deserve. He even had the nerve to ask to be paid for more posts than he made. joust also admitted to be a gambling addict, so you shouldn't trust this user with any money. Ever.

Realizing your mistake doesn't change the situation. If I (tried to) scammed people out of their BTC and admitted and apologized for doing so, it wouldn't make it right. It shows that I'm a bad person and that I shouldn't be trusted with someone's money.

While I agree with the first part of your statement, I don't agree with the second part. I do not think he is a bad person. Addiction makes you do things that you would normally not do. As I said before, I have struggled with other addictions in my life in the past and did some things that I never would have done otherwise. I am not a bad person, far from it.

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Quote from: Mitchell on August 30, 2015, 10:58:07 AM

joust also admitted to be a gambling addict, so you shouldn't trust this user with any money. Ever.

I can see that , even a neutral trust with a warning can do that work.
Gambling addiction is worst even i have been gone through it , now feels better , don't run behind bits but behind talent.
Anyways all depends on POV.

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Quote from: everaja on August 30, 2015, 10:51:17 AM

Hey QS i guess a neutral warning would be fine rather than a negative one , if you really wanna warn others about him , just leave a neutral warning.

he at least realized his mistake , gambling has taken much life .

I'm going to side with QS on this. I think that the joust deserves the negative trust. You broke your end of an agreement by switching to another signature campaign before the period was after, after which you try to get paid for something you don't deserve. He even had the nerve to ask to be paid for more posts than he made. joust also admitted to be a gambling addict, so you shouldn't trust this user with any money. Ever.

Realizing your mistake doesn't change the situation. If I (tried to) scammed people out of their BTC and admitted and apologized for doing so, it wouldn't make it right. It shows that I'm a bad person and that I shouldn't be trusted with someone's money.

Rmcdermott927

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Quote from: joust on August 30, 2015, 10:49:12 AM

Quote from: coinableS on August 30, 2015, 10:48:03 AM

It takes a lot to admit fault and wrong doing. At least he is doing that. Sounds like he just made a bad choice and is not like your typical scammer that disappears never to be heard from again.

Thank you for understanding my situation, i will do everything to make this right.. So tell me what to do?

It's not about making things right with me. It's about making things right with yourself. Any addiction WILL take over your life. I have struggled with similar issues in the past. Get yourself some help before it ruins your life worse than just harming your reputation on an internet forum. I will remove my feedback as I do legitimately feel sorry for you. It is up to the others if they wish to do the same.

everaja

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Quote from: Quickseller on August 30, 2015, 10:48:04 AM

You tried to scam. Anyone considering to deal with you should be warned that you have a history of a scam attempt

Hey QS i guess a neutral warning would be fine rather than a negative one , if you really wanna warn others about him , just leave a neutral warning.

he at least realized his mistake , gambling has taken much life .

Quote from: joust on August 30, 2015, 10:47:04 AM

Quickseller i didnt scam anyone, i tried it but didnt do it and i regret for it... How can i make it right rncdermotten?

If you had a Jr.Member account then i guess you would not gave this apology , anyways , lets see what OP says.

joust

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Quote from: coinableS on August 30, 2015, 10:48:03 AM

It takes a lot to admit fault and wrong doing. At least he is doing that. Sounds like he just made a bad choice and is not like your typical scammer that disappears never to be heard from again.

Thank you for understanding my situation, i will do everything to make this right.. So tell me what to do?

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Quote from: joust on August 30, 2015, 10:47:04 AM

Quickseller i didnt scam anyone, i tried it but didnt do it and i regret for it... How can i make it right rncdermotten?

You tried to scam. Anyone considering to deal with you should be warned that you have a history of a scam attempt

coinableS

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It takes a lot to admit fault and wrong doing. At least he is doing that. Sounds like he just made a bad choice and is not like your typical scammer that disappears never to be heard from again.

joust

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Quickseller i didnt scam anyone, i tried it but didnt do it and i regret for it... How can i make it right rncdermotten?

joust

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Yeah i admitted i am wrong, gambling got me on wrong path.. Now I was getting crazy.

Again I am sorry..

Rmcdermott927

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What happened::

Joust was a Sr. member in my sig campaign for plinkopot. He was attempting to get paid for posts he never made. His last payment in my campaign was on 8/23 at post count 429. He then switched campaigns without telling me at post count 431. He then sent me an email claiming that he made 75 posts while wearing my sig and asking to get paid.

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I am sorry, man i need money for my life, gambling broke me down...

Please remove the thread.

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