Topic: BITCOINTALK.ORG: Is being turned into nothing more than an Bitcoin pumping site. (Read 746 times)

You have the freedom to talk about bitcoins and give your point of view. You posts won't be deleted even if you have a different point of view than a majority. Everyone have the rights to say whatever they feel is right, however trolling or using abusive language is not allowed and should not be tolerated.

Deleted comments are not to silence users. basically all members have the same opportunity when they make comments. I have also experienced, many of my comments are deleted or reported by members. but I am not complaining about the incident. instead, I tried to fix and find the points of my mistakes in using this forum. just like you, my first year many of my posts were deleted, this does not make me discouraged in improving my post. Regarding the forum only for pumping bitcoin, you are very wrong, there are many analysis from members, they are racing to exchange ideas. they share price predictions fairly based on analysis not for bitcoin pumping on trading methods or they are using this forums and discussing topics about bitcoin bad or good at least they are giving true information

You ain't the only one this has happened to, have been a victim of this where by it cost me to loose some bounty rewards stakes. Which all post I made wasn't in one day. I don't know if that was due to the site or probably a script the moderator was trying to test.

I don't care what people want to say about this site. I always spread about bitcoin to new people, and if they are interested, I will introduce this site to them. Bitcoin is my life, and this place is my family.

Lots of people believe bitcoin is scam and they are posting on this forum as well. When you will read this thread which has made on July 13, 2012 called "A Scam" then you will discover few people believed bitcoin is scam. But all comments still alive and you are able to read them. So is it not freedom of speech? But you are trying to create FUD and repeating same thing again and again. So I believe someone reported your posts.

Probably your posts have been deleting below reason;

The 'Hard Facts' after every comment you write, is it closing line like in letters or you mean it with substance of comment?

Exactly this is what i am thinking as bitcointalk was never made to pump the bitcoin. But i wished we could pump the bitcoins 

There are many other reasons why the OP posts are being deleted, one of them being posted one after the other and secondly the posts like bitcoin will pump or bitcoin will die both comes under spamming unless you have a solid evidence to support your prediction.

Exactly. If you go to the Technical Discussion or Technical Support boards there are plenty of threads discussing flaws and issues with bitcoin. The difference is that these threads have actual points made coherently and intelligent discussion, rather than just the same nonsense spam over and over about how a chronically incorrect investor who is all in on gold thinks that gold is better than bitcoin (Amazing, I know).

After all, if everyone thought that bitcoin was perfect then why do we have devs? Why do have new versions of Bitcoin Core being released? Why are people constantly working on squashing bugs and developing and building new features. Why did we need SegWit? Why do we need Lightning? Without criticism there can be no growth.

No one is reporting or deleting OP's posts because they aren't pro-bitcoin. His posts are being deleted because every post is the same low value nonsense, often made in threads which have nothing to do with gold or bitcoin price.

I've found this website to be the best overall source of cryptocurrency learning via active dialog. The least censored, biased, controlled etc.  Yes it's made up of mostly bitcoin supporters but there's a dedicated altcoin section that's very active and I've said plenty of negative things before about btc and never been censored for it.  No one here who understands cryptocurrency and knows their stuff overall thinks bitcoin is perfect.  People speak about flaws/issues all the time. Comparatively for example- Bitcoin.com not only censors heavily, they first have to approve the comment and then have the ability to to close/delete all comments, and lock threads without any explanation ever.  Here Theymos often engages the community, and moderators speak up /answer questions /concerns more often than I've seen anywhere else.

You are making the works of mods here much difficult the way you do your activities here. Yes, this is a free speech forum and this is why you were able to make a post and even screen shot of your deleted posts freely.

Now think of what you have done to the forum and why your posts were being deleted? That is a big question where mods will be having hard time deleting probably irrelevant post.

So next time think before you click. Your post

Being turned into? Wasn’t the site created to spread Bitcoin awareness to the masses, or “pump” it?

You've put a lot of thought into this!

Doge is about as much of a joke as shrapnel too with 1p (uk) costing more to mint I assume the cent in the US is the same....
I do like how the inflationary purposes of ltc and dogs are well maintained, their chains could potentially be merged at some point too since they're both the same algorithm (I e half a block for ltc and half for doge with a different address/public key type to reduce confusion)...

BTC just being a commodity makes a lot of sense too and ltc can probably easily scale much further.

Does not belong here, but if you start a topic about the danger of bitmain owning and doing all of the below

1)building gear
2)selling gear
3)cloud mining project
4)pools
5)exchange

With no oversite or  accountability of their actions.

I can explain a lot of just how bad and good they are for POW coins.





As for BTC fully turning into cash it can't happen without or due to multiple alt coins.

Doge has lots of asic backing as it merge mines with LTC

Doge is secure
Doge is fast
Doge is very low cost to send
I think of it a 1 usa Penney to 5 dollar bill

I think of LTC as  5 dollar bill to ten $100 dollar bills

BTC I think of a 10 to 30 yr  usa bond valued as 5000 usd or more.

These three coins would really work well as a money system.
The idea of BTC and nothing else simply will not scale correctly
The idea of those three coins  can be scaled fairly easily.

Doge can be capped to under 50 usd purchase in a store it will clear really quickly.

Software can convert it to cash for the store
Software can convert it to ltc for the store
Software can convert it to btc for the store
Software can convert it to any combination of the three for the store depending on the store's choices.

Since it is capped at 50 bucks of less and clear really fast the risk of double spending is next to zero.

Ltc can be a good down payment coin for a car or a home improvement job.

BTC is never going to be nimble and work no matter what any one thinks simply because you have to kill fee issue.
That kills miner interest
That means people will dump the coin and move on.

Using the three coins is a pretty easy solve.
ON paper.

Thats is brief and simple on making a 'new' money system with crypto.

As for bitmain oh I can go on and on and on and on and on. About what they can and can not do with pow coins and their 5 levels of business listed above.

Which of the 33 unofficial rules promises free speech exactly? Maybe you shouldn't break the ones that are listed for a start.
So you hate BitCoin and our bitcoin.org (or is it bitcointalk.org?!) forum. You are free to leave anytime you want. There is a hard fact for you.

Can you elucidate a little more on how you see Bitmain's game? From your post, it seems that you are concerned, rightfully so, about adoption and ease of usage as well as the fee-market issue.

The thing about Bitmain being a double edged sword probably points to their ability to influence the mining and their interests with Ver. It 'd be great if you articulate the actual fears as we need more discussion on these things.

I think that other currencies that have some sort of central entity are busy marketing themselves while Bitcoin is basically left alone to do its own thing by its followers. Apart from a bunch of core developers, it will be hard to find anyone else still in it without the allure of commensurate personal benefit.

Earlier we used to see a lot of push towards adoption. Now most of the SM timelines are taken over by people shilling their respective alts. That really has taken away attention from adoption and usage of Bitcoin and its layer-2 developments.

No there are some 'hard facts' that make me think bitcoin could be in for a struggle down the road.

I see doge as far better for buying a cup of coffee as bitcoin will be.

I see bitcoin having real issues the next two  ½ ings.

But for Now I simply mine and hold.

I see bitmain as a double edge sword for BTC or any coin as they simply think of them as chips to move on the board game they are playing .

I and many others consider this forum as a place where people interested in Bitcoin gather and discuss various topics related to Bitcoin. Of course, the majority here is pro Bitcoin, but that does not mean that the community (at least the majority) will not accept negative criticism if it is based on some meaningful facts. The way you write is nothing more than a one-way hatred towards anyone who thinks positively when it comes to Bitcoin.

I personally don’t see how this forum affects the price of Bitcoin, because those who actually have an impact on the price are certainly not here and don’t read our posts. If that were the case, then the price would be much higher than it is at the moment.

I'm already on several occasions commented on your way of presenting hard facts, so I'll just give an example of how it goes with you. On May 16, 2020 you posted -> BITCOIN HALVING now a reality !!! How is that working out for everyone , and on 20 June, 2020 you posted this -> How is the HALVING working out for you Remember all the predictions ?

In the absence of hard facts you repeat the same phrases over and over again, and none of the respectable members have written for sure that halving will inflate the price until the new ATH overnight. On the contrary, we warned of the fact that the effects of halving will not feel at least in the next 6 months taking into account the past two halvings.

I like trolls that use either a lot of effort, or a minimum amount of effort. To compromise and post normally with a troll-like attitude is to spit in the face of any true shitposting.

That being said, I think HardFacts is absolutely right about BITCOIN.ORG being turned into a Bitcoin pumping site! Isn't it great that the official Bitcoin page leads to an upward price movement for the coin? Absolutely amazing: it's like nobody could predict that at all.

Hang on, what's this website? Oh, bitcointalk.org? Yeah, that's one shitty-ass place!

C'mon guys... this is obviously a troll account.


1. Nobody is this stupid.
2. Those aren't even real seed words.

He puts a bit more effort into his trollisms than some but he's just some kind of Sacha Baron Cohen-esque character.

No matter how much you try to reason with such people, they simply want you to agree to their stupid FUD.

If you try to insult them or make them realize that their opinion doesn't matter and we are fundamentally not interested in the same thing, they will resort to behaving in this irritating, know-all manner (signing off posts..LOL). Such preposterous behavior, shitposts all pointing to the exact same things and you can't help but realize that these people are basically just internet trolls. They say shit for the sake of getting some attention and are hardly interested in real discussion or agreeing to disagree.

The forum allows useless people like him to continue to operate because well, we are all Satoshi and we think you are entitled to waste your time, respect and dignity whatever way you deem fit. If it was up to me, I'd simply just ban a lot of these assholes after such repeated wastage of human interaction. Be thankful that the mods are only deleting your trolling shitposts.

Also, there are hundred of people doubting bitcoin on this forum. We all talk about how adoption and use-cases are the need of the hour. We discuss about possible social and economic ramifications and what they mean to bitcoin. We talk about the new technological add-ons been worked on by the open source community. So, NO, this forum is NOT about pumping bitcoin. Lowlife trolls like you cannot understand that. You are just interested in your stupid agendas. We don't need the likes of you, so yeah, FUCK OFF!

Just browsing through your posts, OP. They’re mostly low quality, shitposts hating on bitcoin. Are you just bitter that you’re a peasant NOCOINER? I don’t understand your bitterness & hate, if you don’t like bitcoin then fuck off. Why would you spend your time posting about something you don’t believe in.

Your posts are getting deleted because they're low quality & people are reporting them. The fact that you’re an annoying cunt makes you a target. A lot of your posts could be considered trolling too which is against the rules here.

Seems you like to shill gold & Peter Schiff? Here’s a nice little meme for you -




It’s Bitcoin not BitCoin by the way & maybe stop signing posts with Hard Facts. It makes you look like a mouth breather!

My opinion: I actually don't mind bitcoin skeptics. In fact, I'm heavily interested in topics that addresses Bitcoin's weaknesses because I know it's also beneficial to talk about Bitcoin's shortcomings. It's just that most(if not all) your posts are Peter Schiff and Nouriel Roubini levels of hatred. You know, those I'm-right-and-you're-wrong-whatever-happens arguments that just ends up with name-calling? Yea. Pretty much zero room for constructive arguments.

Where can I get one of those magic crystal balls?

your about a hundred is only 32. a 32 post of yours got deleted and you think you are being targeted by the forum and trying to silence you. you love sensationalizing things and I like that about you, it makes for a good read.

"hArD fAcTs"

That explains a few deletions, but NOT the majority.  I listed aobut 100, you explained away 3 of them.....

My VERY FIRST thread was deleted when it became very popular, and got a lot of community response.   They wanted to kill any discussion that does not agree with their narriative.

It is CRYSTAL CLEAR what is going on here, they are killing anything that does not pump up Bitcoin.

Hard Facts

Stop breaking the rules and your posts will stop being deleted.

I report thousands more posts mindlessly spamming bitcoin "to the moon" than I do mindlessly spamming bitcoin "is going to die" like yours do. The intent behind the post is irrelevant if the content is low quality repetitive spam.

We'll likely see another 80% crash next year and I don't think it's unlikely bitcoin will see a huge crash. I thought it was overvalued at $300 and I can imagine it'll get replaced or diluted out - I have faith in blockchain though and open source blockchains will hopefully be here to stay)...

Regardless, you can't just keep writing the same stuff over and over of similar ilk without adding anything additional as that's essentially the definition of low quality spam. @hf I think you should try to analyse what you're getting from this forum and from writing these posts I think you may want to consider moving off if you're not going to add new ideas to threads and actively participate in discussion...

 you are 100% bitcoin will crash and burn to nothing.

When the covid-19 scare first hit hard back in feb  btc crashed to 3900 usd you were fully on top of the crash.  and now that btc is back to 9200 you do not credit it.

Basically every post I read from you is " btc coin sucks and will die."
I think people are tired of your one track posting.




BTW BTC could crash  by 2028. I have mentioned this more then once. I see long term issues with it.


But my posts have far more variance then just that one fear.

First of all, here is not bitcoin.org. This forum is bitcointalk.org
Many of your posts have been deleted because they had been made in a row.



Example 1: Two posts in a row in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-is-the-halving-working-out-for-you-remember-all-the-predictions-5256957


Source: Loyce.club



Example 2: Two posts in a row again in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-is-the-halving-working-out-for-you-remember-all-the-predictions-5256957


Source: Loyce.club


Example 3: Two posts in a row in https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/peter-schiff-was-right-again-if-bitcoin-does-not-go-up-on-good-news-5231846


Source: Loyce.club

What does Bitcoin.org website has to do with Bitcointalk forum and it's moderators?

Your posts have been reported by someone and then deleted, but everyone can check them out in LoyceV archives:
http://loyce.club/archive/members/264/2642061.html

If you don't like Bitcoin stop wasting your time in Bitcoin forum.

The forum rules promise FREE SPEECH, but this is a LIE...   Bitcointalk.org is deleting any opinions that do not promote Bitcoin.  See the following images, MANY of my posts have been deleted, while all, and many times very nasty pro bitcoin replies have been allowed to stand.

I wonder if the people that are running this site are aware of the abuse of power done by the moderators here.  If the owners support this, then they should be honest enough to update their RULES page.  If not they should have enough integrity to fire moderators that are violating published site rules.  In the beginning, Bitcoin.org was an honest site promoting freedom, but has now been corrupted by the GREED of people wanting to silence anyone that is not pro Bitcoin.  Even the FEDERAL RESERVE does not go to such lengths to silence dissenting opinions.






I have many pages deleted posts that were on topic that I can post for anyone wanting more evidence.  

Hard Facts