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I mean as we've established Alexa is largely misleading and not really a reliable indication on volume or source of that volume.
The clear point is this.
You want large volume then there has to be access to financial opportunity to all members. Not just a tiny minority who clearly want to garden wall those opportunities.
I mean you have to face facts.

1. The vast vast vast majority came here to make money not to learn about the finer workings of bitcoin.
2. People here are all about making money. Hence why every one here is spamming the highest paying banners they can.

So sure you want to make it all about genuine enthusiasts that want to learn about bitcoin. You will retain a tiny fraction of the volume it once had.
All you are really left with are

1. Merit sources aka DT and paid mods all advertising chipmixer and other highly paid sigs for max milking. Ot being paid directly also.
2. Early adopters that like to pop in here and there.
3. Real enthusiasts that just love talking about bitcoin unicorns
4. Alt communities that have dwindled to those holding large bags and have no other option.
5. New visitors that a tiny % of will become regulars.
6. Alt teams that have nowhere else to launch easily
7. The odd low level scammers looking for prey.

I would guess at a max that is maybe 5% of the volume you would have if you manage correctly masses of people that will spend all their energy here for a few dollars of shit coin bounties per day. That really is the choice. Volume or an improved general quality with no volume.

Its fine to say that bct doesnt exist to enrich shitposters,  bounty hunters etc. But there is very little point to bct now anyway unless it is to grow a large community hub for alts. I mean bct could vanish tomorrow and would bitcoin notice?  They are teaching bitcoin in schools now, you can learn about bitcoin in many various places. Bitcoin has now hit critical mass required, its known by virtually everyone. It is being cleaned up by whales and huge corps. Bitcoin has vastly outgrown bct.

If I could say bitcointalk has one useful purpose it would actually be a central hub for alt projects. They would and have suffered a lot more especially if bct closed. The bitcoin board wasnt really that busy even on prior bull runs compared to the up tick on the alts section.

The energy and determination of the bounty hunters should have been harnessed, graded and rewarded via a transparent objective and fair system. A real meritocracy.
Instead it was entirely destroyed by a terrible design.
All those bounty hunters spamming social media with links back to bct icos and telling their buddies to jump on bct and do the same as them cos they were making 50 bucks a day could have been retained and put to good use. Even their posts will bring in seo traffic to some degree. Those people were useful for icos. Those people tended to gamble it on other alts. It wasnt maybe pretty but since most on meta never have anything to do with the alt section then why worry?
I mean look at ivory tower? I'm guessing sigs aren't allowed or paid in there lol

I would have had junior alternative boards for each section  Where people could earn their way to the senior boards.
I mean if you only care about bitcoin and worry if that section is kept to a certain standard why care so much about the bounty hunters going wild on the alt boards? If you were concerned about people coming in via the junior boards or even the alt boards in general just have a big banner at the top ( like the one branding people with no financially dangerous behaviors as scammers we have now) saying some members believe this part of the forum is shit hole spam pit click here to come and talk about bitcoin. or click here to visit the senior boards.

If you are smart in life you can use energy that is currently neutral or even reasonably negative and make it work for you.

These unicorns  coming to learn about bitcoin that dont care about self enrichment at all will just let the forum rumble on with very low volume.  

However it's not only over policing and unfair broken control systems such as merit that have killed volume.

1. Dilution death alts all rushing to zero
2. Ico fad is stagnant. I mean new projects cant be bothered if there is no traffic.  
3. People have all heard about bitcoin now so even when you hit an all time high and MSM  goes on about it it doesn't alert people to bitcoin for the first time anymore.
4. People burned hardest by the large legit scams aka huge projects with real dev teams that ended up raising huge amounts....just never produced anything or dev money ran out or dev team fell out or new improved project took over,  endless excuses and bullshit and relaunches of new icos based on tech they funded from the last ico. They probably wont return.
5. Those that became the idle rich. They dont need bct anymore just lurk now and then


People arguing for bitcointalk to become all about genuine enthusiasts to learn about bitcoin with no care for making money must accept that will be a very tiny forum.
Take away sig banners and other rev streams for DT and everyone else and watch it shrink a lot more.

Bct has no purpose now as such. People have uses for bct. Take away its financial use it's done.
DT and merit sources and mods want money.... guess what other people want lol
You think DT will be here or mods be here with no money? Lol please they wont be here answering any newbies bitcoin questions or hunting scammers or trust abusing whistleblowers.

Theymos is crazy if he think any of meta board would be here if he banned sigs.
Compared to them all maxing out their post quotas now that bitcoin is at 40k

You may have one or 2 posting now and then if you're lucky.
You cut off everyones paid2post or reduce it massively or make it unfair and awkward or you force people to kiss ass to a tiny subset of greedy scroungers...
Yes the forum volume dwindles.

You want volume on the forum now look to alts not bitcoin and also start giving everyone a taste not letting a few greedy pigs keep their noses in the trough full time. Whilst scouring others for wanting some crumbs.

Anyway like you say who knows what theymos purpose for the forum is?
Maybe he isn't bothered that much.
Bct achieved its goal. It build a community around bitcoin. The community has pushed bitcoin mainstream or past the point where only coordinated gov action can stop it now. Job done.

Guess it doesn't matter about bct anymore. Bitcoin was the paradigm shift not bct.
Theymos and others guided it very well to the critical point. That's all that mattered.
The rocket booster has successfully launched the ship.

As a core alt hub it does still have a lot of potential. Not as it is designed now perhaps but with some changes.
I like reading it for the history. What is left now in terms of volume or worse in terms of interesting and outstanding characters is not even a shell.

Maybe we dont even need to worry about the volume of the forum. It succeeded at what it was created for. People can still come and learn and contribute. I guess over all there stil isn't anywhere better. I've been a member and prolific poster on some other large forums but this one from 2012 -2017 was by far the best. It's just a shame that they didnt flip the switch for junior sections on all boards on as soon as the mass influx of children and desperate spammers appeared willing to go to extreme lengths to grab all they could.

It's easy to talk solutions I guess. Another thing implementing them successfully.
Strange, this was going to be a short post.




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I am echoing some sentiments from members that I have seen over the years: plenty of people have turned away from Bitcointalk for the very reasons that I mentioned - lack of scam protection apart from this really convoluted trust system that you need to learn - the barriers to entry for Newbies aren't solely limited to posting obligations.

Outside of the topic of scamming, new users effectively have no on-boarding process and are left (mostly) to their devices. Never mind figuring out merit and trust, good luck even finding out it exists if you're the average user that sees the first board "Bitcoin Discussion", reads a few shitty threads, and thinks that the forum is a waste of time.

Would it help if the Beginners & Help section was the first thing they saw? Maybe perhaps this thread, too? Especially when, relative to the stats, the view count of the four year-old thread gets outpaced with less than a quarter of that time. I'm not sure if the "Users Online" portion is accurate. Seems to always be sub-1000, according to the history here too.
The forum just seems to be exceptionally unfriendly to new faces.

I think there was a welcome message of sorts for newbies about the Trust system. And there was supposed to be a general one about the forum, too. But I've created a new account and I don't see anything so it seems it may have never been put into place. Tongue

The users that are incentivized to join Bitcointalk in this case would be those that value the freedoms provided by the forum, including freedom to create thousands of scam coin announcements, airdrops at no/low-cost, publish ponzi threads, write bland and uninteresting content

Thankfully the worst of them are confined to boards outsiders have no need of visiting.


Only theymos, Cyrus and Global mods can ban non-newbies and trolls almost always needed to be really disruptive before they got banned. If reporting doesn't help start a topic about the specific troll. The more people complain about something the more likely it is that something is going to be done.
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Anything to do with policing scams would involve occasionally treating non-scammers as scammers (for example by raising the barrier of entry to start threads in some boards), and giving other users a false sense of security as smarter scammers inevitably scam them. Not to mention the extra resources needed for all of that, there's a reason the Trust system was introduced in 2013 and the SCAMMER tags were depreciated.

It's also not unusual for new users to have to wait a bit before posting again to combat spam.
All of that is fine and good if theymos wants to run the forum in that way.

I am echoing some sentiments from members that I have seen over the years: plenty of people have turned away from Bitcointalk for the very reasons that I mentioned - lack of scam protection apart from this really convoluted trust system that you need to learn - the barriers to entry for Newbies aren't solely limited to posting obligations. The users that are incentivized to join Bitcointalk in this case would be those that value the freedoms provided by the forum, including freedom to create thousands of scam coin announcements, airdrops at no/low-cost, publish ponzi threads, write bland and uninteresting content, or do a combination of the above while trolling users and bloating the forum with spam of their scam.

Outside of the topic of scamming, new users effectively have no on-boarding process and are left (mostly) to their devices. Never mind figuring out merit and trust, good luck even finding out it exists if you're the average user that sees the first board "Bitcoin Discussion", reads a few shitty threads, and thinks that the forum is a waste of time.

Would it help if the Beginners & Help section was the first thing they saw? Maybe perhaps this thread, too? Especially when, relative to the stats, the view count of the four year-old thread gets outpaced with less than a quarter of that time. I'm not sure if the "Users Online" portion is accurate. Seems to always be sub-1000, according to the history here too.
The forum just seems to be exceptionally unfriendly to new faces.
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Alexa is completely unreliable. I say that as someone that has had an Alexa top 1000 site and had access to the server side stats.

Lol anyone finding bct via a nutildah link is likely in for an interesting read.
Willing scam facilitator for pay who attempts to delete his own history out of shame DT member, sig spammer and trust abuser.

Nice intro to the site.

All of these are largely irrelevant to a newbie who registered to ask a question or participate in discussions.

Anyway, whilst the merit system is in place I wouldn't expect any 2017 or even 13 volume increases.
Once word is out that a system is corrupt and broken and cuts off opportunities for new members it's hard to fix.
Sadly you will see other places outgrow the original bitcoin community.

There are better places to go to for people with short attention spans preferring flashy websites. It's also worth admitting that the market offers now more channels to communicate with like-minded people than discussion forums, and some people are just going to innately prefer them, there's nothing wrong in that.

Bitcointalk is an archaic forum running on old software.
Bitcointalk does not delete scams.
Instead, its moderators refrain from making that choice for you, letting you be the arbiter.
Additionally, it even allows ponzi operators to create their threads in their own specialized place!

How lovely! I'm sure that 99% of Bitcoin users would aptly say, "no need to change anything"

Ah, and if you're a Newbie trying to learn about Bitcoin? Ask a question. Wait 6 minutes to ask another question. Wait between two to four weeks to bypass that limit, or pay to get into this forum of which you have no use.

Anything to do with policing scams would involve occasionally treating non-scammers as scammers (for example by raising the barrier of entry to start threads in some boards), and giving other users a false sense of security as smarter scammers inevitably scam them. Not to mention the extra resources needed for all of that, there's a reason the Trust system was introduced in 2013 and the SCAMMER tags were depreciated.

It's also not unusual for new users to have to wait a bit before posting again to combat spam.

Agree on the software being archaic, though.

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The forum's primary purpose of existing isn't making people rich from bounties and signature or avatar campaigns.

Alexa ratings are pretty useless. The ratings are calculated based on the pages surfed by the users who have Alexa extension downloaded in their browser. Now tell me how many of you have Alexa extension downloaded?

Considering Indian section is pretty inactive and there aren't many Indians on forum, India coming at second spot is certainly due to me. I have Alexa installed since 2018. I guess nutildah has Alexa installed too and he uses search engine to login to his profile.  Roll Eyes Well, if not then it's pretty impresive.

Dang. I didn't realise that. That is pretty much worthless. What motivation does someone have to install the extension? I could understand if they get paid for it somehow, but I doubt it. Seems that data can come from the websites themselves as well if they've included the Alexa script, but still how many of them do? Reminds me of how worthless TV ratings are. In the UK at least there's a Broadcasters Board and they recruit a mere 12,000 people to report back to them about what they're watching and how they rate the program. Given that there's 66+ million people in the UK I'm not sure how they're meant to represent the entire population, and especially not accurately. That's one good thing about streaming services as they know exactly how many people are watching.

Toolbars aren't used anymore since their popularity peaked probably over a decade ago, it's from Alexa's scripts on websites but mostly from extensions (25k different extensions according to Alexa).

12k/66m can be enough, all depends if the sample of the population is representative which is the difficult part but shouldn't be a problem when given enough thought how to do it.
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Reminds me of how worthless TV ratings are. In the UK at least there's a Broadcasters Board and they recruit a mere 12,000 people to report back to them about what they're watching and how they rate the program. Given that there's 66+ million people in the UK I'm not sure how they're meant to represent the entire population, and especially not accurately.
I think they are doing same thing with TV ratings in most countries. It's not accurate at all, but probably there is some reasons why they are using such ineffective method.

Well there's probably no better way to do it unless you can somehow see/track what people watch directly on their TV automatically, which I don't think there is other than digital streams, but that would seem pretty Orwellian anyway if they were tracking everything you watched on TV. People would probably have to agree to it. I wonder how many shows have been cancelled for 'low viewership' just because the people who report back to the powers that be are a bunch of idiots or like crappy run-of-the mill shows.

There used to be a bitcoin-based Ad Network by the name of Mellow Ads (don't know if it still exists or not). The network had requirement that website needs to have Alexa rank lower than 200K to be listed as publisher.

So don't know about others but the motive behind downloading the extension for me was to improve Alexa rank of my websites. I used to download the extension during the development phase (400-500 pageviews daily) and it usually took 13-14 days to improve the rank and make it less 200K. It was that easy to manipulate Alexa rank back then. Since then never bothered to remove the extension and it's still active in my browser.
Mellowads is still alive and they still have this requirement. There is some more Bitcoin based ad networks which have Alexa rank based approval requirements, but it's not such high as on Mellowads.
Besides reasons that you mentioned, I don't know why anyone would install Alexa extension.

Most people won't want to install extensions unless there's some benefit to it. How many people have even heard of alexa rankings being extension-based. I certainly haven't. People generally only want to give away this sort of into when they're either getting paid for it or they get something for free in exchange. Otherwise why bother?
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Reminds me of how worthless TV ratings are. In the UK at least there's a Broadcasters Board and they recruit a mere 12,000 people to report back to them about what they're watching and how they rate the program. Given that there's 66+ million people in the UK I'm not sure how they're meant to represent the entire population, and especially not accurately.
I think they are doing same thing with TV ratings in most countries. It's not accurate at all, but probably there is some reasons why they are using such ineffective method.
There used to be a bitcoin-based Ad Network by the name of Mellow Ads (don't know if it still exists or not). The network had requirement that website needs to have Alexa rank lower than 200K to be listed as publisher.

So don't know about others but the motive behind downloading the extension for me was to improve Alexa rank of my websites. I used to download the extension during the development phase (400-500 pageviews daily) and it usually took 13-14 days to improve the rank and make it less 200K. It was that easy to manipulate Alexa rank back then. Since then never bothered to remove the extension and it's still active in my browser.
Mellowads is still alive and they still have this requirement. There is some more Bitcoin based ad networks which have Alexa rank based approval requirements, but it's not such high as on Mellowads.
Besides reasons that you mentioned, I don't know why anyone would install Alexa extension.
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@nutildah you are quite a famous man...
I guess it’s the BSV gangs who is looking for who is nutildah as nutildah had created scam accusation thread against BSV which have been a discussion in the reddit too, shared here- https://amp.reddit.com/r/bitcoincashSV/comments/fzs4bm/nutildah_the_troll_that_made_the_scam_thread/
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Alexa ratings are pretty useless. The ratings are calculated based on the pages surfed by the users who have Alexa extension downloaded in their browser. Now tell me how many of you have Alexa extension downloaded?

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Dang. I didn't realise that. That is pretty much worthless. What motivation does someone have to install the extension? I could understand if they get paid for it somehow, but I doubt it. Seems that data can come from the websites themselves as well if they've included the Alexa script, but still how many of them do? Reminds me of how worthless TV ratings are. In the UK at least there's a Broadcasters Board and they recruit a mere 12,000 people to report back to them about what they're watching and how they rate the program. Given that there's 66+ million people in the UK I'm not sure how they're meant to represent the entire population, and especially not accurately. That's one good thing about streaming services as they know exactly how many people are watching.

There used to be a bitcoin-based Ad Network by the name of Mellow Ads (don't know if it still exists or not). The network had requirement that website needs to have Alexa rank lower than 200K to be listed as publisher.

So don't know about others but the motive behind downloading the extension for me was to improve Alexa rank of my websites. I used to download the extension during the development phase (400-500 pageviews daily) and it usually took 13-14 days to improve the rank and make it less 200K. It was that easy to manipulate Alexa rank back then. Since then never bothered to remove the extension and it's still active in my browser.
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Alexa ratings are pretty useless. The ratings are calculated based on the pages surfed by the users who have Alexa extension downloaded in their browser. Now tell me how many of you have Alexa extension downloaded?

Considering Indian section is pretty inactive and there aren't many Indians on forum, India coming at second spot is certainly due to me. I have Alexa installed since 2018. I guess nutildah has Alexa installed too and he uses search engine to login to his profile.  Roll Eyes Well, if not then it's pretty impresive.

Dang. I didn't realise that. That is pretty much worthless. What motivation does someone have to install the extension? I could understand if they get paid for it somehow, but I doubt it. Seems that data can come from the websites themselves as well if they've included the Alexa script, but still how many of them do? Reminds me of how worthless TV ratings are. In the UK at least there's a Broadcasters Board and they recruit a mere 12,000 people to report back to them about what they're watching and how they rate the program. Given that there's 66+ million people in the UK I'm not sure how they're meant to represent the entire population, and especially not accurately. That's one good thing about streaming services as they know exactly how many people are watching.
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Alexa ratings are pretty useless. The ratings are calculated based on the pages surfed by the users who have Alexa extension downloaded in their browser. Now tell me how many of you have Alexa extension downloaded?

Considering Indian section is pretty inactive and there aren't many Indians on forum, India coming at second spot is certainly due to me. I have Alexa installed since 2018. I guess nutildah has Alexa installed too and he uses search engine to login to his profile.  Roll Eyes Well, if not then it's pretty impresive.
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Anyway, whilst the merit system is in place I wouldn't expect any 2017 or even 13 volume increases.
Bitcointalk is an archaic forum running on old software.
Bitcointalk does not delete scams.
Instead, its moderators refrain from making that choice for you, letting you be the arbiter.
Additionally, it even allows ponzi operators to create their threads in their own specialized place!

How lovely! I'm sure that 99% of Bitcoin users would aptly say, "no need to change anything"

Ah, and if you're a Newbie trying to learn about Bitcoin? Ask a question. Wait 6 minutes to ask another question. Wait between two to four weeks to bypass that limit, or pay to get into this forum of which you have no use.

There wasn't any real need to change anything from 2018.
The alt board would have self regulated due to dilution death and bear market.
As it had before after 2014. Besides most merit sources now say they dont even visit the alt board cos its just a pile of worthless spam where you cant locate anything worth meriting lol

Merit plus DT plus corrupt sig managers killed any chance of seeing volume increases seen before on ATH and bull markets.
The spammers and " shitposters" also spammed social media, immediately dumped their bounties and gambled on other alts
You lost their volume, the volume their social media spam attracted, SE traffic ( some negative due to chunks of plagiarism from external sources but the net I think would still have been positive) , word of mouth this was the new rags to riches for everyone with internet access.  All for what? Something a few extra mods could have taken care of and forcing all projects to self moderate their own Ann threads.

If you think the volume increases have even been 1% legitimate enthusiasts who wish to gain a deeper understanding of bitcoin I believe you are being overly optimistic. This was the new gold rush. Only now it's only open to those select few of self elected morons decide it is. People came to gain money like you know what DT1 do spamming chipmixer and highest paying avatars etc. They dont give a fuck about bitcoin they will spam the most shady gambling or most shady exchanges out there. They dont give a fuck that goes tits up and a to  of people get burned or if these places see fleecing people. They are here for the money full stop.

I have plenty of use for it. There are over 30 projects I'm still very interested and active with.
I'm simply saying now merit killed this instant access or even all access to paid2post then dont all sit around wondering why this place will never hit volume like it did in the past.  

You over police or unfairly police anything... guess what happens? People dont want any part of it.
I mean sure if you just want to come to learn and ask questions it is the best place there is
Or if you believe in some of the projects born here it again it is going to be a place you spend a lot of time.

When you've spoken to developers who say they have moved away from bct or prefer other mediums due to the toxic DT and merit system then you start to realize that only meta bubble chipmixer spammers believe this is all working well.

Most of the mods really have no clue about the alts section have never been a core member of multiple projects communities or really have and grounding for some of the decisions and opinions they seem to have formed. They simply dont know most of the regular posters or have had any involvement in the community at all. Dabs is 1 that has been around a  bit and been involved here and there with a few I guess.

This we dont delete scammers and even side with them against whistleblowers just isn't going to work out.
I dont even refer to the CH incident I am talking about another incident.

The decentralized governance has failed.  The have to impress a tiny minority to have access to paid2post has failed.  The you can have your account ruined for disagreeing with other people has failed, the you can have your account ruined for reporting scammers has failed.

The lack of direction has failed and the lack of willingness to concede your designs have failed and been exploited and abused is one huge fail. I know endless long term outspoken and interesting characters that have left due to DT and trust abuse. Those people that been involved with lots of project and been very active over the years.
One of the smartest people here has told me he feels there is mass corruption in DT and above.

Until there are transparent, objective clear rules that ensure a tiny minority can not game the entire system to their own benefit and people see how unfair that is then I guess bct will simply grind down slowly over time.

I mean clearly the ico bubble burst and dilution did reduce potential windfalls but from speaking to many many people they are grossly unhappy with seeing the merit cycling merit sources self elect themselves on to DT and take every available sig spot and avatar spot at the highest rates they can. Well look at the rampant greed of them maxing out sig and max out avatars , regurgitating each others meaningless drivel to max their post quotas.

Sure you can power up some merits if you know a few tricks but it's all too long winded and the prospect of some twat of DT ruining your paid2post chances because they just feel like it anytime. I mean ask primesellout7 how crushing that can be.  I mean some are willing to eat scammer ass for some bitcoin dust others will just say fuck it and go elsewhere.

I know when you're beneficiary of the status quo any changes sound terrifying. Doesnt matter to those that are independently wealthy but to new members this just doesn't have the appeal it did.  Sorry for being honest.




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Anyway, whilst the merit system is in place I wouldn't expect any 2017 or even 13 volume increases.
Bitcointalk is an archaic forum running on old software.
Bitcointalk does not delete scams.
Instead, its moderators refrain from making that choice for you, letting you be the arbiter.
Additionally, it even allows ponzi operators to create their threads in their own specialized place!

How lovely! I'm sure that 99% of Bitcoin users would aptly say, "no need to change anything"

Ah, and if you're a Newbie trying to learn about Bitcoin? Ask a question. Wait 6 minutes to ask another question. Wait between two to four weeks to bypass that limit, or pay to get into this forum of which you have no use.
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Even though BCT won't show up in the first page of the Google search result if you just type in "Bitcoin" a person who is truly interested in finding out more about Bitcoin will likely end up visiting the forum. This has happened before during the 2017 bull run and the popularity of BCT rose up because of Bitcoin's price rally back them, it attracted a lot of newbies and it had destroyed a lot of their dreams when it went falling down. I can say that this bull run will always be a double-edge sword for BCT since even though it will increase the popularity of the forum chances are when Bitcoin will fall down they will immediately turn against Bitcoin and blame everything on it on why they have lost their money.
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Alexa is completely unreliable. I say that as someone that has had an Alexa top 1000 site and had access to the server side stats.

Lol anyone finding bct via a nutildah link is likely in for an interesting read.
Willing scam facilitator for pay who attempts to delete his own history out of shame DT member, sig spammer and trust abuser.

Nice intro to the site.

Anyway, whilst the merit system is in place I wouldn't expect any 2017 or even 13 volume increases.
Once word is out that a system is corrupt and broken and cuts off opportunities for new members it's hard to fix.
Sadly you will see other places outgrow the original bitcoin community.

There are more accurate analytics places but none are that accurate.

Obviously bull runs and ATH should push volume and a lot more than it has already.

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The weird thing is how Alexa got these keywords "nutildah and perfect money" which is rarely used unless nutildah keep using this keyword?

They're not "nutildah and perfect money" together but separate searches. I guess buying bitcoin with perfect money must be a popular option and people will be searching nutildah for the reasons below (though I'm surprised it's that high).

The weird thing is how Alexa got these keywords "nutildah and perfect money" which is rarely used unless nutildah keep using this keyword?
I guess from the BSV shills and butthurt's searched traffic all over Twitter, Reddit, etc with the thread he/she made about BSV scam.

Some of these can be found when you search nutildah on google. ^^

The first non-bitcointalk mention of nutlidah is this reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoincashSV/comments/fzs4bm/nutildah_the_troll_that_made_the_scam_thread/

Maybe it is bounty hunters rather than Bitcoiners

I believe the PC term is 'cryptocurrency enthusiasts'  Cheesy.
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<…> I have made this statement many times analysing the monthly statistics for the italian board: I thought a rise in price would have lead to more interest on the forum. Well, I thing there is a gap between the forum, as a tool, an the "newbies" in the Bitcoin sphere, who probably, mainly for age-related habits, prefer to use other medium like youtube or Telegram chat to source their information on Bitcoin.

I tried several times to post links pointing towards the forum on such Telegram chats, or even twitter, but the answer I got were quite disappointing as everybody liked more the continuous chatter of the Telegram rather than the more insightful views the forum can give.
Though the comment is from another thread, it’s perfectly fitting here, and touches the exact point I wanted to state regarding my local board.

General external stats on the forum, or internal aggregate stats by IP, give insights that may be interesting, but that lack the narrative of local boards. I figure not all local boards are alike, but the above quote is aligned to my perception, so that makes at least two important local boards bearing the same issue.

Bitcointalk local boards, be it due to cultural technological differences in younger generations, or lack of visibility (finding it with local keywords on Google tends to lead to Bitcointalk entries being far from the first page of results) is far from having the traffic of people that corresponds to the language’s potential. Even simply considering the dire needs that are pushing people to use crypto in LATAM seems to drive no further traffic to their corresponding local board (and they are not prone to being English fluent in masses). It's been like that for quite some time, and perhaps some strategic thought should be put into seeing if and how it can be tackled.
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Maybe it is bounty hunters rather than Bitcoiners
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I might need to compare the current Alexa rating with some previous years so here are some screenshot from Wayback Machine Smiley





And the top one I have found so far is >



The source of the info is > https://web.archive.org/web/20180131200715/https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcointalk.org
copper member
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1305
Limited in number. Limitless in potential.
The weird thing is how Alexa got these keywords "nutildah and perfect money" which is rarely used unless nutildah keep using this keyword?
I guess from the BSV shills and butthurt's searched traffic all over Twitter, Reddit, etc with the thread he/she made about BSV scam.

Some of these can be found when you search nutildah on google. ^^
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1280
Top Crypto Casino
During the increasing of the bitcoin cabalism13 makes a thread on our local about the possible chance of people invest in cryptocurrency there is a chance it will happen but there is a huge percentage that they make an investment with this highest price rate. Also, I'm not familiar with the use of Alexa because I'm using is the google trend ( well most used search engine so google...)

Also, I want to share the possible search for the new bitcoin comers.


"Bitcoin"





"Bitcoin investment"



"how to earn bitcoin"



You can check this too with the use of Google trends
https://trends.google.com/trends/?geo=US

legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 4085
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
Instead of combine data from those sites (I also don't know how to download data from their charts), I use data from Google trend with 2 keywords: bitcoin and bitcointalk.org. I use the multiplier 200 to make the chart more visual comparative.

A combination of two variables for bitcoin, bitcointalk.org and Bitcoin price (daily close price from coinmarketcap.com), here you go with the time series chart.

What do we have here?
  • Google Trend with Bitcoin keyword has sort of correlation with bitcoin price
  • In contrast, the Google Trend with bitcointalk.org keyword does not have correlation with bitcoin price

Raw data (with 200 mulitplier)
Code:
    +----------------------------------------------------+
     |      date      close   bitcoin200   bitcointalk200 |
     |----------------------------------------------------|
  1. | 10jan2016     447.99          600                0 |
  2. | 17jan2016      382.3          600             3600 |
  3. | 24jan2016     402.97          600             3600 |
  4. | 31jan2016     368.77          400             3600 |
  5. | 07feb2016     376.62          400             3600 |
  6. | 14feb2016     407.23          400                0 |
  7. | 21feb2016      438.8          400             1800 |
  8. | 28feb2016      433.5          600                0 |
  9. | 06mar2016     407.71          400                0 |
 10. | 13mar2016     414.07          400                0 |
 11. | 20mar2016     413.76          400             1800 |
 12. | 27mar2016     426.77          400                0 |
 13. | 03apr2016      420.9          400                0 |
 14. | 10apr2016     421.56          400                0 |
 15. | 17apr2016      427.4          400                0 |
 16. | 24apr2016     458.55          600                0 |
 17. | 01may2016     451.88          800             3600 |
 18. | 08may2016     458.55          600             3600 |
 19. | 15may2016     457.57          400             1800 |
 20. | 22may2016     439.32          400             1800 |
 21. | 29may2016     526.23          600                0 |
 22. | 05jun2016     574.98          600                0 |
 23. | 12jun2016     672.78          800                0 |
 24. | 19jun2016     763.78          800             1800 |
 25. | 26jun2016     629.37          600                0 |
 26. | 03jul2016     658.66          600                0 |
 27. | 10jul2016     649.36          600             1800 |
 28. | 17jul2016     679.46          400                0 |
 29. | 24jul2016     661.28          600                0 |
 30. | 31jul2016     624.68          600             1800 |
 31. | 07aug2016     592.69          600             2000 |
 32. | 14aug2016     570.47          400             2000 |
 33. | 21aug2016     581.31          400                0 |
 34. | 28aug2016     573.91          400             1800 |
 35. | 04sep2016     608.63          600             1800 |
 36. | 11sep2016     606.72          400             1800 |
 37. | 18sep2016     609.87          400                0 |
 38. | 25sep2016     600.83          400                0 |
 39. | 02oct2016     610.89          400             1800 |
 40. | 09oct2016     616.75          600             1800 |
 41. | 16oct2016     641.63          600                0 |
 42. | 23oct2016     657.07          600                0 |
 43. | 30oct2016     701.86          600             3600 |
 44. | 06nov2016     711.52          600                0 |
 45. | 13nov2016     702.03          600             1800 |
 46. | 20nov2016     731.03          600             5200 |
 47. | 27nov2016     732.03          600                0 |
 48. | 04dec2016     773.87          600                0 |
 49. | 11dec2016     769.73          600             3400 |
 50. | 18dec2016     790.53          800             5400 |
 51. | 25dec2016     896.18         1000             1800 |
 52. | 01jan2017     998.33         1400                0 |
 53. | 08jan2017      911.2         1200             1600 |
 54. | 15jan2017      821.8          800             1600 |
 55. | 22jan2017     924.67          800             1600 |
 56. | 29jan2017      919.5          800                0 |
 57. | 05feb2017    1027.34          800             4800 |
 58. | 12feb2017     999.18          800                0 |
 59. | 19feb2017    1047.87         1000             4800 |
 60. | 26feb2017     1165.2         1200             4800 |
 61. | 05mar2017    1267.12         1400             3200 |
 62. | 12mar2017    1221.38         1000             1600 |
 63. | 19mar2017    1036.74         1200             1600 |
 64. | 26mar2017     966.72         1000             3200 |
 65. | 02apr2017    1102.17         1000             3200 |
 66. | 09apr2017    1187.87         1000                0 |
 67. | 16apr2017    1182.94         1000             1600 |
 68. | 23apr2017    1207.21         1000             4800 |
 69. | 30apr2017    1347.89         1400             1600 |
 70. | 07may2017    1596.71         1800             3200 |
 71. | 14may2017    1808.91         2200             1800 |
 72. | 21may2017     2041.2         3800             5200 |
 73. | 28may2017     2155.8         2600            10600 |
 74. | 04jun2017    2511.81         2400             6800 |
 75. | 11jun2017    2958.11         2600             6800 |
 76. | 18jun2017    2548.29         2200             6800 |
 77. | 25jun2017    2589.41         2200             3600 |
 78. | 02jul2017    2506.47         1800             5400 |
 79. | 09jul2017    2518.44         2000             3400 |
 80. | 16jul2017    1929.82         2400             5400 |
 81. | 23jul2017     2730.4         2200             1800 |
 82. | 30jul2017    2757.18         3000             3400 |
 83. | 06aug2017    3213.94         2800             6600 |
 84. | 13aug2017    4073.26         4000             5200 |
 85. | 20aug2017    4087.66         3200             3400 |
 86. | 27aug2017    4382.88         3400            10200 |
 87. | 03sep2017    4582.96         3600            11600 |
 88. | 10sep2017    4122.94         4200             3200 |
 89. | 17sep2017    3582.88         3200             6600 |
 90. | 24sep2017    3682.84         2400             3400 |
 91. | 01oct2017    4403.74         2600             6600 |
 92. | 08oct2017    4610.48         3800             8200 |
 93. | 15oct2017    5678.19         4000            11400 |
 94. | 22oct2017    6008.42         4000             6400 |
 95. | 29oct2017    6153.85         5600                0 |
 96. | 05nov2017    7407.41         5600             4800 |
 97. | 12nov2017    5950.07         6200             4800 |
 98. | 19nov2017    8036.49         5400             6400 |
 99. | 26nov2017    9330.55        13000             9400 |
100. | 03dec2017    11323.2        18800            14400 |
     |----------------------------------------------------|
101. | 10dec2017    15455.4        17200            11200 |
102. | 17dec2017    19140.8        20000             8400 |
103. | 24dec2017    13925.8        12400            10600 |
104. | 31dec2017    14156.4         9600            15000 |
105. | 07jan2018    16477.6         9000            10800 |
106. | 14jan2018      13772        11400            20000 |
107. | 21jan2018    11600.1         7400            16800 |
108. | 28jan2018    11786.3         8200            10800 |
109. | 04feb2018    8277.01         9600             9400 |
110. | 11feb2018    8129.97         5400             9400 |
111. | 18feb2018    10551.8         4800            13800 |
112. | 25feb2018    9664.73         3800            10600 |
113. | 04mar2018    11512.6         3800             6000 |
114. | 11mar2018    9578.63         3800             7600 |
115. | 18mar2018    8223.68         3600             6000 |
116. | 25mar2018    8495.78         3600             9600 |
117. | 01apr2018    6844.23         3400                0 |
118. | 08apr2018    7023.52         3200             3000 |
119. | 15apr2018    8329.11         2800             9400 |
120. | 22apr2018    8802.46         3000             9200 |
121. | 29apr2018    9419.08         2600             4800 |
122. | 06may2018     9654.8         2600            10800 |
123. | 13may2018    8723.94         2200                0 |
124. | 20may2018    8513.25         2400            12400 |
125. | 27may2018    7368.22         2200             7800 |
126. | 03jun2018    7720.25         1800             3000 |
127. | 10jun2018    6786.02         2600                0 |
128. | 17jun2018    6499.27         2000             1600 |
129. | 24jun2018    6173.23         2200                0 |
130. | 01jul2018    6385.82         2000             3000 |
131. | 08jul2018    6773.88         1800             3000 |
132. | 15jul2018    6359.64         2200             1600 |
133. | 22jul2018    7418.49         2400             7800 |
134. | 29jul2018    8218.46         2200                0 |
135. | 05aug2018    7068.48         2200             1600 |
136. | 12aug2018    6322.69         2000                0 |
137. | 19aug2018    6506.07         2000             3200 |
138. | 26aug2018    6707.26         2000             4600 |
139. | 02sep2018    7272.72         2200                0 |
140. | 09sep2018    6300.86         2000             3000 |
141. | 16sep2018    6517.18         1800                0 |
142. | 23sep2018    6710.63         1600                0 |
143. | 30sep2018    6625.56         1600             1600 |
144. | 07oct2018    6602.95         1800             3000 |
145. | 14oct2018    6290.93         1600                0 |
146. | 21oct2018    6482.35         1600                0 |
147. | 28oct2018    6486.39         1600             1600 |
148. | 04nov2018    6376.13         1600             1400 |
149. | 11nov2018    6411.27         2000                0 |
150. | 18nov2018    5623.54         2800             1600 |
151. | 25nov2018    4009.97         2800             3000 |
152. | 02dec2018    4139.88         2200             1600 |
153. | 09dec2018    3614.23         2200             3000 |
154. | 16dec2018    3252.84         2200             1600 |
155. | 23dec2018    3998.98         2000                0 |
156. | 30dec2018    3865.95         1800             3200 |
157. | 06jan2019    4076.63         1800             1600 |
158. | 13jan2019    3552.95         1600             1400 |
159. | 20jan2019    3601.01         1400             1400 |
160. | 27jan2019    3583.97         1600             1400 |
161. | 03feb2019    3464.01         1600                0 |
162. | 10feb2019    3690.19         1400             1400 |
163. | 17feb2019    3673.84         1600                0 |
164. | 24feb2019    3810.43         1600             1400 |
165. | 03mar2019    3847.18         1400             4400 |
166. | 10mar2019     3951.6         1400                0 |
167. | 17mar2019    4025.23         1400             1400 |
168. | 24mar2019    4022.17         1400                0 |
169. | 31mar2019     4105.4         2400             1400 |
170. | 07apr2019     5198.9         2000             1600 |
171. | 14apr2019    5167.72         1800                0 |
172. | 21apr2019    5314.53         1800                0 |
173. | 28apr2019    5285.14         1800             3000 |
174. | 05may2019    5795.71         2400             1400 |
175. | 12may2019    6972.37         3800             3000 |
176. | 19may2019    8197.69         2600             1400 |
177. | 26may2019    8673.22         2800             1400 |
178. | 02jun2019    8742.96         2400                0 |
179. | 09jun2019    7688.08         2000                0 |
180. | 16jun2019    8994.49         3400                0 |
181. | 23jun2019   10855.37         5000                0 |
182. | 30jun2019   10817.16         3400             1600 |
183. | 07jul2019   11450.85         3200                0 |
184. | 14jul2019   10256.06         3200                0 |
185. | 21jul2019   10599.11         2600                0 |
186. | 28jul2019    9552.86         2400                0 |
187. | 04aug2019   10970.18         2800                0 |
188. | 11aug2019   11523.58         2600                0 |
189. | 18aug2019   10345.81         2200             1400 |
190. | 25aug2019   10138.52         2200             1400 |
191. | 01sep2019    9757.97         2200             1400 |
192. | 08sep2019   10441.28         1800                0 |
193. | 15sep2019   10347.71         1800                0 |
194. | 22sep2019   10070.39         2400             1400 |
195. | 29sep2019    8104.19         2000                0 |
196. | 06oct2019    7988.16         1800                0 |
197. | 13oct2019    8321.01         1800                0 |
198. | 20oct2019    8222.08         2000             1400 |
199. | 27oct2019    9551.71         2000             1400 |
200. | 03nov2019    9235.35         1800             1400 |
     |----------------------------------------------------|
201. | 10nov2019    9055.53         1800                0 |
202. | 17nov2019    8577.98         2000                0 |
203. | 24nov2019    7047.92         2000             1400 |
204. | 01dec2019    7424.29         1800                0 |
205. | 08dec2019    7564.35         1600             1400 |
206. | 15dec2019     7152.3         1800                0 |
207. | 22dec2019    7511.59         1600                0 |
208. | 29dec2019    7422.65         1800             3000 |
209. | 05jan2020    7411.32         2200                0 |
210. | 12jan2020    8192.49         2200                0 |
211. | 19jan2020    8706.25         2000             1400 |
212. | 26jan2020    8596.83         2000                0 |
213. | 02feb2020    9344.37         2200                0 |
214. | 09feb2020   10116.67         2400                0 |
215. | 16feb2020    9934.43         2200                0 |
216. | 23feb2020    9924.52         2200                0 |
217. | 01mar2020    8562.45         2000             3800 |
218. | 08mar2020    8108.12         4000                0 |
219. | 15mar2020    5392.31         3800                0 |
220. | 22mar2020    5830.25         3000             2400 |
221. | 29mar2020    5922.04         2600             2400 |
222. | 05apr2020    6791.13         2600                0 |
223. | 12apr2020    6971.09         2600             1200 |
224. | 19apr2020    7189.42         2400             2400 |
225. | 26apr2020    7679.87         3200             1200 |
226. | 03may2020    8897.47         3400                0 |
227. | 10may2020    8756.43         4200             1200 |
228. | 17may2020    9670.74         2800                0 |
229. | 24may2020    8790.37         2600                0 |
230. | 31may2020    9461.06         2400                0 |
231. | 07jun2020    9758.85         2400             1200 |
232. | 14jun2020    9386.79         2200             1200 |
233. | 21jun2020    9303.63         2000                0 |
234. | 28jun2020    9143.58         2000                0 |
235. | 05jul2020    9073.94         2000             1200 |
236. | 12jul2020     9276.5         2200                0 |
237. | 19jul2020    9185.82         2000                0 |
238. | 26jul2020    9905.17         3200                0 |
239. | 02aug2020   11053.61         3000             1200 |
240. | 09aug2020   11675.74         2800                0 |
241. | 16aug2020    11892.8         2600             1200 |
242. | 23aug2020   11664.85         2200             1200 |
243. | 30aug2020   11711.51         2200                0 |
244. | 06sep2020   10280.35         2200             2600 |
245. | 13sep2020   10323.76         2000                0 |
246. | 20sep2020   10938.27         1800                0 |
247. | 27sep2020   10774.43         1800             1200 |
248. | 04oct2020   10684.43         1800                0 |
249. | 11oct2020   11384.18         1800                0 |
250. | 18oct2020   11483.36         2600                0 |
251. | 25oct2020   13031.17         2800                0 |
252. | 01nov2020   13737.11         3000                0 |
253. | 08nov2020   15479.57         3000             1400 |
254. | 15nov2020   15955.59         4200                0 |
255. | 22nov2020      18370         4800                0 |
256. | 29nov2020   18177.48         4200                0 |
257. | 06dec2020   19345.12         3200                0 |
258. | 13dec2020   19142.38         5400                0 |
259. | 20dec2020    23477.3         5400             3000 |
260. | 27dec2020   26272.29         8400                0 |
261. | 03jan2021   32782.02        15000                0 |
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legendary
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Since December 24, we have moved from position 14505 til the current 11031 Smiley
I'm not too familiar with Alexa rankings, but I'm assuming this is a rating of traffic to all websites...?  If that's the case, being at 11031 is pretty damn good considering how many websites there are in existence.  The increase in the past couple of weeks probably doesn't surprise anyone, and it looks like the Alexa rank is still on the rise according to that graph.  Very interesting.

Even more interesting is this:
TOp 3 countries visiting the website were >
US, India and Japan..
I could have guessed that the US would comprise a large percentage of visitors, but I wouldn't have guessed either Japan or India being that high.  Well, India maybe considering how large a country it is, but I really don't have a sense of how active their local section is since I don't visit it.  It must be on fire.  And I would have figured that China would come in before Japan, so that's kind of a head-scratcher.

Neat-O stats, OP.  Thanks for posting this!

Apparently after The Pharmacist expressed his dissatisfaction with the influx of shit-posters representing these countries, he also took the trouble to make a New Year's wish (so that shit-posters tell the truth). At least this is a pretty logical explanation .. Naughty kids get coal, and shit-posters get disconnected from the internet, or .....
I completely disavow any knowledge or connection with any of the aforementioned sentiments and/or statements, no matter what posts you dig up.  Triple LOL^2.
legendary
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I don't use this tool it's far from accurate stats even the keyword I mostly use similarweb.com to check website rank and for top keywords, moz.com is more accurate for checking top keywords and keyword planner for searching rank keywords.

Alexa is far from the latest SEO it's a long-dead tool years ago. I don't use them since 2018 due to bad stats. Similarweb is way better for check rankings and competitors.

The weird thing is how Alexa got these keywords "nutildah and perfect money" which is rarely used unless nutildah keep using this keyword?
legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
So, can someone draw comparison between this chart and Bitcoin price? I imagine there will be visible direct correlation between it. Though, probably not that much accurate as when previous $20k ATH was reached.
And damn, @nutildah, you're more famous than whole forum itself. Not bad, right? Cheesy
Though, I'm not sure how much these stats is accurate. If we would check data on Similarweb.com, then we would find completely different results. For example, most of traffic comes from USA (14.49%), Germany (7.08%), Russia (6.16%) and Ukraine (5.57%):
https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org/#overview
legendary
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light_warrior ... 🕯️
TOp 3 countries visiting the website were >
US, India and Japan.. Satoshi I know you are reading this.. thank you for the bitcoin Smiley
Where is Indonesia or the Philippines?

Apparently after The Pharmacist expressed his dissatisfaction with the influx of shit-posters representing these countries, he also took the trouble to make a New Year's wish (so that shit-posters tell the truth). At least this is a pretty logical explanation .. Naughty kids get coal, and shit-posters get disconnected from the internet, or .....

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
Anyone know why in the industries section it doesn't mention "bitcoin"? It seems to list: cryptocurrencies bcash and "comments".
legendary
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₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(
When bitcoin kickass the forum becomes popular again and typically is flooded with spammers and scammers looking for a quick buck.
Let's look at some ratings, just for fun.
Since December 24, we have moved from position 14505 to the current 11031 Smiley


Top 3 countries visiting the website were >
US, India, and Japan.. Satoshi I know you are reading this.. thank you for the bitcoin Smiley


Top Keywords...
@nutildah you are quite a famous man...


More interesting stats you can find on the source link below >

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcointalk.org
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