BitCollar (BOR) - fake team and plagiarized whitepaper!

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Quote from: morvillz7z on August 24, 2019, 11:29:11 AM

Quote from: Alexeudd221 on August 24, 2019, 11:00:23 AM

Hello, i arranged an airdrop for my project and i just got a sms from my airdrop hoster that @morvillz7z asking him to stop my bounty.

This is incorrect, I simply told NashAmajh that your project has been caught with having fake team members and blatantly plagiarized whitepaper. Quite the violations if you ask me and I feel obliged to warn potential investors that your project isn't being completely honest which may lead to people losing their investments. The only way for me to warn people out is by red trust and flags. Again, I'm not stopping anything, you are free to have as many threads as you desire, I'm just giving cautionary advice to people.

he got the warning from you and take it as advice to stop the Airdrop. So did it. Please don't get it wrong. I am doing my best to proof myself with proper proof. Just need some time.

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Quote from: Alexeudd221 on August 24, 2019, 11:00:23 AM

Hello, i arranged an airdrop for my project and i just got a sms from my airdrop hoster that @morvillz7z asking him to stop my bounty.

This is incorrect, I simply told NashAmajh that your project has been caught with having fake team members and blatantly plagiarized whitepaper. Quite the violations if you ask me and I feel obliged to warn potential investors that your project isn't being completely honest which may lead to people losing their investments. The only way for me to warn people out is by red trust and flags. Again, I'm not stopping anything, you are free to have as many threads as you desire, I'm just giving cautionary advice to people.

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Hello, i arranged an airdrop for my project and i just got a sms from my airdrop hoster that @morvillz7z asking him to stop my bounty.

Why am i getting the problem when i already updated my White paper with new content and details. Also i am working on my team managment. My website under development with Verified team members list. I will publish it very soon. And if i am here to scam people's, i may not come back when i got the red tag first time.

Also i will post my Ann thread with new details and webpage. And my new utility paper, Pitch deck and MVP will be live soon and i will share it from my ANN thread for everyone.

There have many projects who didn't even accept their mistakes after doing this. I was honest about this and i accepted by fault. Now i am being ready to move back.

Thank you.😊

I hope @morvillz7z will check my new whitepaper. And let me stand back with my new verified team.

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Another attempt to return: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/airdrop-bitcollar-first-global-decentralized-platform-simple-way-to-pay-and-5178497
Arhive: https://web.archive.org/web/20190824150528/https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/airdrop-bitcollar-first-global-decentralized-platform-simple-way-to-pay-and-5178497

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Quote from: JeromeTash on August 19, 2019, 03:17:34 PM

Quote from: kakatua on August 19, 2019, 11:33:18 AM

Brother, the bitcollar team told me, They made their new whitepaper And they said their team would prove the truth. What would you say about this? they get opportunities for it?

Not really.
They decided to be untruthful at first be providing a plagiarized whitepaper and a fake team, so they are not to be trusted at all in this forum.
Do you think they would have changed their team and whitepaper if they were not caught? No... i don't think so.

It's a common tactic used by scammers here, they provide fake information then after being caught they then start promising to provide new information.

Just be grateful that your reputation has been given a second chance and avoid working with them anymore.

I support your word. And I think so too. Thanks for your feedback.

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Quote from: kakatua on August 19, 2019, 11:33:18 AM

Brother, the bitcollar team told me, They made their new whitepaper And they said their team would prove the truth. What would you say about this? they get opportunities for it?

Not really.
They decided to be untruthful at first be providing a plagiarized whitepaper and a fake team, so they are not to be trusted at all in this forum.
Do you think they would have changed their team and whitepaper if they were not caught? No... i don't think so.

It's a common tactic used by scammers here, they provide fake information then after being caught they then start promising to provide new information.

Just be grateful that your reputation has been given a second chance and avoid working with them anymore.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on August 19, 2019, 10:19:33 AM

Well I have withdrawn both my support for the flag and negative feedback on your account. Just to make the flag inactive, I left an opposing vote. Alert me if the final DT member does delete his support so I can delete my opposing support.

I'll advice you avoid working with this particular project even if they promise to amend their ways as any other report of scam like activity/behavior won't be forgiven.

Thanks for your removed trust and removed flag support. I will not promote any type of scam project. Brother, the bitcollar team told me, They made their new whitepaper And they said their team would prove the truth. What would you say about this? they get opportunities for it?

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Well I have withdrawn both my support for the flag and negative feedback on your account. Just to make the flag inactive, I left an opposing vote. Alert me if the final DT member does delete his support so I can delete my opposing support.

I'll advice you avoid working with this particular project even if they promise to amend their ways as any other report of scam like activity/behavior won't be forgiven.

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Hope you are by my side. And if I make a mistake you will correct it for me...🙂 I honestly want to keep working. And I firmly believe in myself. that, I can do it. Because i believe, honestly is the best policy. My previous project triip Protocol token successfully distributed. Bitcolar has been considered a scam. Nevertheless I will distribute Bitcollar tokens. Because, I promised to give participants token on bitcollar bounty thread. I want to preserve my integrity...🙂

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Quote from: kakatua on August 19, 2019, 09:31:09 AM

Please remove my flag...

Flags can't be removed to my knowledge, you can only withdraw your support (delete opinion) which I already did.

You have to talk to people who have supported the flag and ask them to remove their support as well.

If flags have no support from DT1 or DT2 they will become inactive and won't affect threads started by you.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on August 19, 2019, 08:40:33 AM

I also removed my -ve trust from his profile but if any of the locked threads for Bitcollar are being reopened in the near future, I will reinstate my initial feedback and it will be final.

As logfiles said, be careful for which project you decide to work for.

Hello @morvillz7z thanks for your forgive. I am noted your advice. I seen you removed my -ve trust, I am grateful to you. Brother, The warning flag is still there. Please remove my flag...

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Quote from: logfiles on August 19, 2019, 07:39:44 AM

Good... I have checked the threads and done what I can. Please just be careful with the projects you announcing. If you find it challenging you can always ask people around to help check if there are any obvious red flags.

As for the project they can't be trusted at all. They chose to feed the public with false information
So BITCOLLAR.IO CEO profile negative tagged.

Thanks for your forgive and remove trust. I will verify the next project very well.

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I also removed my -ve trust from his profile but if any of the locked threads for Bitcollar are being reopened in the near future, I will reinstate my initial feedback and it will be final.

As logfiles said, be careful for which project you decide to work for.

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Good... I have checked the threads and done what I can. Please just be careful with the projects you announcing. If you find it challenging you can always ask people around to help check if there are any obvious red flags.

As for the project they can't be trusted at all. They chose to feed the public with false information
So BITCOLLAR.IO CEO profile negative tagged.

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I told to Bitcolor CEO Ashraf Wahid. Why did you copy whitepaper graphics? He said me, The whitepaper was made in May. And he didn't know it was in any other project. And when they see the news of the copy. Made new varsion whitepaper.
New Whitepaper : https://t.co/i2vr8aPnIi
And they told About team that. they will Verify the identity of their team. They have told me they want to keep working honestly.

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Quote from: logfiles on August 18, 2019, 02:09:43 PM

So kakatua sent me a PM saying that he was only the ANN maker and bounty manager. His intention is not to scam as he has managed a previously successful bounty.

I told him to join the discussion here for the matter of transparency and I might even consider changing my feedback as it sometimes happens that bounty managers also just do get caught up in between such scenarios. They are also human after all.

However, he has not responded to the thread as yet. So until he responds here with the steps he has taken on the Bounty thread and ANN. My feed back still stands.

I suggest he;
- Closes the ANN thread and leaves the SCAM warning of BitCollar in the OP
- Closes the Bounty thread and leaves the SCAM warning of BitCollar in the OP with apologies to the participants ofcourse
- Promises never to promote projects without doing so due diligence probably in this thread.

Then i might consider reverting my feedback... sometimes, i would love to forgive someone and give them a second chance especially if their reasoning is sound and genuine. The ball is now in his hands now.

To @kakatua if you happen to read this, My decision will obviously be independent of other DT members'. They may or may not reverse their feedback.

Hello @logfiles and all DT member. i am campaign manager from kakatua. I seen The Bitcollar Project has been considered a scam. Actually i am only campaign manager And ANN poster. No connection with the team. When i seen scam considered, then i've lock bounty thrade, ANN Thrade And notice the warning to everyone. My previous project is (Triip Protocol) It's totally succesful project. And all the participants are given their tokens. I didn't do any scams. Please Pick up my red trust...😥😥
It's too late to come here. Because I got a wedding invitation and I was a little busy there. Sorry for my delay.

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So kakatua sent me a PM saying that he was only the ANN maker and bounty manager. His intention is not to scam as he has managed a previously successful bounty.

I told him to join the discussion here for the matter of transparency and I might even consider changing my feedback as it sometimes happens that bounty managers also just do get caught up in between such scenarios. They are also human after all.

However, he has not responded to the thread as yet. So until he responds here with the steps he has taken on the Bounty thread and ANN. My feed back still stands.

I suggest he;
- Closes the ANN thread and leaves the SCAM warning of BitCollar in the OP
- Closes the Bounty thread and leaves the SCAM warning of BitCollar in the OP with apologies to the participants ofcourse
- Promises never to promote projects without doing so due diligence probably in this thread.

Then i might consider reverting my feedback... sometimes, i would love to forgive someone and give them a second chance especially if their reasoning is sound and genuine. The ball is now in his hands now.

To @kakatua if you happen to read this, My decision will obviously be independent of other DT members'. They may or may not reverse their feedback.

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Quote from: Alexeudd221 on August 16, 2019, 01:29:42 PM

We were working in same idea but a project which is facing different market. Working in niche market is our purpose.

There's no problem in two projects working on similar ideas but where there's an issue is the word to word plagiarism of another project's whitepaper which simply means you stole the idea from Zeux. If you guys don't have the time to write your whitepaper then it simple means the project is a scam. Also why is your website displaying fake team members, where are the actual team members as you claim to be a genuine project. The evidence provide above have expose you guys as a project likable to scam her investors.

Great job @morvillz7z, supported the flag, tagged both accounts.

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Quote from: logfiles on August 16, 2019, 11:09:48 AM

That was one hell of a great job done to expose them OP Cheesy

A normal forum user wouldn't have noticed that it was a fake team. These scammers will do anything possible to rip funds off innocent people.

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Hello!

I am the CEO of Bitcollar,Ashraf Wahid.

We have received a scam accusation with fake team members and blatantly plagiarized whitepaper.

What I did was wrong.Our first version of white paper was written in May 2019,there were some of the figure is used from others team. We were working in same idea but a project which is facing different market. Working in niche market is our purpose.

The Proof is our BitCollar Android wallet is totally different from Zeux.
We are now working on a platform with cross-border cryptocurrency investing but not Visa/NFC payment.

I will make up to you for my mistake and keep answer the question or misunderstanding about the project.

Thank you for who is participating in the program.We will keep work hard.

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Yes, OP is enough just to look at the photo to determine the fake. We don't need lie detectors, morvillz7z is so experienced that he exposes the falsity instantly.
I love your work, morvillz7z Cool

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That was one hell of a great job done to expose them OP Cheesy

A normal forum user wouldn't have noticed that it was a fake team. These scammers will do anything possible to rip funds off innocent people.

Flag supported.

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What happened: Fake team members and blatantly plagiarized whitepaper

Reference Link: https://www.bitcollar.co.uk/

Announced by: kakatua

ANN: [ANN]ICO🔥🔥BitCollar (BOR) Crypto Funding 🔥🔥 IEO Coming Soon

Flag 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=640

A total of eight fake team members, using those infamous artificial face images. Will list pictures in hi-res down below so you can see for yourself.
BitCollar whitepaper is heavily plagiarized, almost 1:1 copy of Zeus whitepaper including diagrams and illustrations.

GANs:

John Clinton - Chief Information Officer (CIO)
Erin Thatcher - Chief Human Resources Officer (CHO)
Timothy Hill - Chief Knowledge Officer (CKO)
Linnea Nyman - Statistician
Nico Piek - Senior Software Engineer
Anna Koskinen - Facility Manager
Christy Lam - Service Manager
Amy Lam - Software Engineer

Image sources:
https://www.bitcollar.co.uk/
https://foundico.com/ico/bitcollar.html