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Topic: Bithub.im, BestChange (Removal of reviews and disclaimer of financial obligati). (Read 480 times)

legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
I see that there are some changes. Perhaps my rating should be either removed or corrected, I’ll do something about that a bit later.
Quite sad that you have been offline for almost a month. I am quoting you, hoping you get a notification if you subscribed to one of the telegram bots and came back here.
I removed this rating and replaced it with neutrally-positive comment. Sorry for this delay, I was really busy dealing with real-life issues.
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
OP exists to hate on Ratimov, that is their sole purpose behind creating this thread. Its unfortunate that the account that tagged BestChange was apparently holding out for some kind of 'thanks' before doing the right thing and removing their negative, otherwise they would have just removed it after they realized they were wrong.

I see that there are some changes. Perhaps my rating should be either removed or corrected, I’ll do something about that a bit later.

I normally try not to comment on BestChange-related matters but Balthazar's negative is objectively incorrect in this instance and I will be excluding them from my trust list.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 3878
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Can someone create a scam accusation against Google, Yahoo, Bing and all type of search engines? They also can create scam accusation against Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and all other type of social media. I would also want to see scam accusations against Gumtree type portals, real estate portals, all directory type sites etc. Let us all scrap these site online and continue tagging. Oh yes, let's go against all P2P sites too, including Binance P2P.

I don't understand why BestChange is in question here? At the beginning I have seen accusation against them for similar cases. At that time they did not have many people to defend them since they were new. But now they have. However, question still remains that why even there is a question against BestChange?

BestChange is a site who lists exchanges. More like a directory. Obviously they do their due diligence which is obvious to keep their service trusted and reliable. If one or more company scams or do any wrongdoing, they can just remove them. What else one expects from them? That they should take liability of all the exchanges they listed on their site? Is it even logical?

Keep up the good work, BestChange!
copper member
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1814
฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
I see that there are some changes. Perhaps my rating should be either removed or corrected, I’ll do something about that a bit later.
Quite sad that you have been offline for almost a month. I am quoting you, hoping you get a notification if you subscribed to one of the telegram bots and came back here.

BestChange don't deserve the negative feedback, not today. They have done everything possible to work on the problem.  Imagine if something else came up, wouldn't it kill their spirit to sort out issues since some DT members just leave negative feedback to profiles regardless of the efforts they have put in to get it solved?
legendary
Activity: 1307
Merit: 2181
Buy/Sell crypto at BestChange
full member
Activity: 173
Merit: 146
I doubt if he was one of the affected users. I am not saying that one shouldn't complain when something unlikely comes up about a certain service, but the particular profile (airfinex) was created to either get someone banned or cause some drama if you look at the post history. Afterwards, he just goes offline until he gets something new to howl about.

Here are some of the topics he has opened up
- Merit Source - Plagiarist
- Who controls Bestchange's account?
- Is Theymos really a lauda?
- Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
- MoparMiningLLC Escrow in account sales?
- Moderator Xal0lex - Informal Plagiarist
Absolutely right! I hide my identity to avoid persecution! But this does not mean at all that I am wrong!
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1272
Heisenberg
Looks like some angry users who got his money back and forgot to write about it.
I doubt if he was one of the affected users. I am not saying that one shouldn't complain when something unlikely comes up about a certain service, but the particular profile (airfinex) was created to either get someone banned or cause some drama if you look at the post history. Afterwards, he just goes offline until he gets something new to howl about.

Here are some of the topics he has opened up
- Merit Source - Plagiarist
- Who controls Bestchange's account?
- Is Theymos really a lauda?
- Why does Foxpup only send negative feedback?
- MoparMiningLLC Escrow in account sales?
- Moderator Xal0lex - Informal Plagiarist

legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
I see that there are some changes. Perhaps my rating should be either removed or corrected, I’ll do something about that a bit later.
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1272
Heisenberg
I've just seen that Best_Change made a (long) statement on bithub.im situation.
Some highlights would be "On the night between 4 to 5 June, according to preliminary information, the exchanger bithub.im was hacked." and
"the majority of the victims managed to receive the funds lost as a result of the hack of the exchanger, the rest will also receive them".

I hope it helps.
So airfinex seems to be an account that was created to stir up drama around and then go back to inactivity until there's something else to stir up next time. I should never take it seriously, next time.

They don't even care about what happens afterwards (whether the case gets resolved or not). All they care about is specific profiles receiving negative feedback.
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 6382
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I've just seen that Best_Change made a (long) statement on bithub.im situation.
Some highlights would be "On the night between 4 to 5 June, according to preliminary information, the exchanger bithub.im was hacked." and
"the majority of the victims managed to receive the funds lost as a result of the hack of the exchanger, the rest will also receive them".

I hope it helps.
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1272
Heisenberg
Reality: bithub.im and BestChange have not been able to resolve the situation with payments for about two weeks, in addition, BestChange removes negative reviews on its website, saying that these reviews are bogus. BestChange is running a signature campaign on the forum so I doubt any of the DTs will create a flag or leave a red feedback.

What do you want BestChange to do in this case? Pay up everyone who makes a claim on bithub.im's behalf, minus carrying out any full depth investigation?
As far as I can see, BestChange is tied up to how fast bithub.im can work on solving the issue.

The victims didn't deposit any money on Bestchange and even if they did, such Issues don't get worked on overnight.

The answer they gave is pretty much reasonable for now. Incidents happen. Just give them sometime before you start blaming DT members for not sending them negative feedback. I have tried to look through the accusation, but I haven't seen anywhere they said they don't want to solve the problem.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 3507
Crypto Swap Exchange
I'm not sure why exactly are accusing BestChange in this case. as far as I can see many of the negative comments (55 negatives of 77 comments about them) are still visible on https://www.bestchange.ru/bithub-exchanger.html
I can't find it on the English version of the website.
Also, they removed Bithub from the listing 05.06.2021. which is 10 days before Balthazar open thread against BestChange and it doesn't seem objective here.




Reality: bithub.im and BestChange have not been able to resolve the situation with payments for about two weeks, in addition, BestChange removes negative reviews on its website, saying that these reviews are bogus. BestChange is running a signature campaign on the forum so I doubt any of the DTs will create a flag or leave a red feedback.


Balthazar is DT2 and he leaves them negative feedback.
full member
Activity: 173
Merit: 146
What happened: A certain exchanger (bithub.im), which usually does not accept applications from 0 to 8 am Moscow time, unexpectedly started working at this time and went to the top in bitcoin directions.

It's easy to guess what happened next: users went to change at a "favorable rate", receiving nothing in return.

The administrator of the exchanger, having come in the morning, turned off the site and wrote standard unsubscriptions for 15 days, offering nothing to anyone or promising. Best_Change does the same, suggesting "wait for a solution to the situation" and "wait for new information." In fact, they limited themselves to removing the no longer working exchanger from their "reliable" monitoring, and all their real actions ended there. A lot of people were deceived, Balthazar counted about 30 people:

Both bithub.im and BestChange received a significant number of requests containing information about unpaid orders.
Unfortunately, due to the fact that a significant part of these requests contains false information and comes from scammers, which hosted the bithub.im site, we still cannot start actions to resolve the situation. BestChange apologizes to users for the long waiting period, however, for objective reasons, we are forced to conduct a full analysis of the incoming information. Unfortunately, this process takes a long time. Regarding the removal of reviews, we inform you that the policy of the BestChange service is aimed at preserving positive, negative and neutral reviews left by real users. In cases where we receive requests from exchange offices to remove reviews, we always ask to provide full information about the situation.

- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5343984 Balthazar (c)
- https://www.bestchange.ru/bithub-exchanger.html Use the Google translate

Reality: bithub.im and BestChange have not been able to resolve the situation with payments for about two weeks, in addition, BestChange removes negative reviews on its website, saying that these reviews are bogus. BestChange is running a signature campaign on the forum so I doubt any of the DTs will create a flag or leave a red feedback.
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