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Topic: BITMAIN's BM1380 chip is open for ordering. 10,000 chips for 99.9BTC, 3.6BTC/TH (Read 19684 times)

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Are any smaller quantities of the chips available ie 30-100? id like to get some if they are.
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Any status updates from people using these chips?
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I am looking at starting a group buy for chips here. If anyone is interested.


thanks Bestlymac,

The BOM and open sourced documents will be uploaded in two days.
That is great. Will you also be releasing your antminer design?

All the file needed for a antminer S1 design will be uploaded.

Is there more detailed information about the chip's inner
workings available? So custom designs can be made?

intron
Currently No. They haven't released the chip protocol.
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I am looking at starting a group buy for chips here. If anyone is interested.


thanks Bestlymac,

The BOM and open sourced documents will be uploaded in two days.
That is great. Will you also be releasing your antminer design?

All the file needed for a antminer S1 design will be uploaded.

Is there more detailed information about the chip's inner
workings available? So custom designs can be made?

intron

When you get all the info you need I hope you will create a nice easy USB design Wink
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I am looking at starting a group buy for chips here. If anyone is interested.


thanks Bestlymac,

The BOM and open sourced documents will be uploaded in two days.
That is great. Will you also be releasing your antminer design?

All the file needed for a antminer S1 design will be uploaded.

Is there more detailed information about the chip's inner
workings available? So custom designs can be made?

intron
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I did not see a document containing the chip protocol. Is it available?
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@Bitmain: Is there a board design competition and would we get samples if there is a competition?
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Bitmain i have sent you a email and am awaiting a response so we can get our group buy moving forward.

Thanks
Don't hesitate to layout and prepare the sample PCB, if you have already preview our documents.

All the documents will be uploaded to our github soon.
thanks for uploading the design documents.  i use altium as well, so having the symbols and footprints for the BM1380 already generated and documented helps a ton.
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Sounds great. I just need the remaining info so the fabricator can give us a complete quote.
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https://www.bitmain.com
Bitmain i have sent you a email and am awaiting a response so we can get our group buy moving forward.

Thanks

Finalizing the PO paper work.

Don't hesitate to layout and prepare the sample PCB, if you have already preview our documents.

All the documents will be uploaded to our github soon.
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Bitmain i have sent you a email and am awaiting a response so we can get our group buy moving forward.

Thanks
legendary
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You probably want to make it modular so you can sell different speeds.
My concern with investing much in this chip is that it's not nearly as productive as the others coming out and less productive than others already out.  The price is write and it may be useful for USB's.
How does the electrical efficiency compare with BitFury?  Is it more productive per amp, or whatever.
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or you can scale it down to avalon blade design and still get a decent miner with 4 modules that would hash at 360...

900 GH/s miner is a lot of chips.
Would be around 320 chips.
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900 GH/s miner is a lot of chips.
Would be around 320 chips.
legendary
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900 GH/s miner is a lot of chips.
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Any idea about prices yet?

Yes we do have but this is currently internal use only and is only a rough idea based on estimates of the Wasp and Hive but only the schematics and BOM for the Wasp are done.

So we are unable to give a prototype cost breakdown as the Hive is still being worked on. Production would be January at the earliest and our plan is not to do pre-sales so it will be pop-up sales. Soon as there is stock they will go on sale and if we run out sales stop.

So pricing will be posted before New Year at the earliest I would think and set by the reseller, diy makers, the WPC if we do a larger production run or other fabricators who are licensed with us to produce the BM1380 Wasp. Prices probably will vary.


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@Bitmain: Is there a board design competition and would we get samples if there is a competition?
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That datasheet is extremely limited. Do you have a timeline on an updated on with information on the communications protocol and register descriptions, as well as the firmware for the control board?
Agreed; the datasheet will need a little more detail for us DIYers.
+1
+1
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Design contest?

Sample chips?
32 sample chips are provided along with orders.


Voltage(V)Core Frequency(MHz)Hash Rate(GH/s)Current(A)Power Consumption(W)
Power Efficiency(J/GH)
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Design contest?

Sample chips?
32 sample chips are provided along with orders.
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Design contest?

Sample chips?
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Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?

Thanks and PM answered.

Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.

We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.

make sure to send to burnin. he does good boards.
Any thoughts of making rackminers? like U3 size but 500GH++.
We are considering building rack miners with bit main chips. They would be roughly 900Gh/s
That would be of interest!
price est?
legendary
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legendary
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where i can find pcb design of S1?
sorry, found it.
sr. member
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Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?

Thanks and PM answered.

Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.

We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.
Can I get a copy of this documentation to review?
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beastly when do you plan to open the sales? hopefully no preorder...  Grin

We are considering building rack miners with bit main chips. They would be roughly 900Gh/s
It will be part of the assembly service available to the chip group buy members.
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beastly when do you plan to open the sales? hopefully no preorder...  Grin

We are considering building rack miners with bit main chips. They would be roughly 900Gh/s
legendary
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The chips would be available in the middle of February right?
sr. member
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Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?

Thanks and PM answered.

Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.

We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.

make sure to send to burnin. he does good boards.
Any thoughts of making rackminers? like U3 size but 500GH++.
We are considering building rack miners with bit main chips. They would be roughly 900Gh/s

waiting for more information. interesting
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 501
Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?

Thanks and PM answered.

Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.

We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.

make sure to send to burnin. he does good boards.
Any thoughts of making rackminers? like U3 size but 500GH++.
We are considering building rack miners with bit main chips. They would be roughly 900Gh/s
hero member
Activity: 833
Merit: 1001
+1 and i'd be the first in line  Cheesy

Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?

Thanks and PM answered.

Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.

We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.

make sure to send to burnin. he does good boards.
Any thoughts of making rackminers? like U3 size but 500GH++.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?

Thanks and PM answered.

Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.

We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.

make sure to send to burnin. he does good boards.
Any thoughts of making rackminers? like U3 size but 500GH++.
hero member
Activity: 741
Merit: 514
https://www.bitmain.com
Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?

Thanks and PM answered.

Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.

We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.
sr. member
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Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?
legendary
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watching to see if this becomes a reality.
legendary
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That datasheet is extremely limited. Do you have a timeline on an updated on with information on the communications protocol and register descriptions, as well as the firmware for the control board?
Agreed; the datasheet will need a little more detail for us DIYers.
+1
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That datasheet is extremely limited. Do you have a timeline on an updated on with information on the communications protocol and register descriptions, as well as the firmware for the control board?
Agreed; the datasheet will need a little more detail for us DIYers.
legendary
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That datasheet is extremely limited. Do you have a timeline on an updated on with information on the communications protocol and register descriptions, as well as the firmware for the control board?
legendary
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Hmm

awfull pricing comparing my project

the wafer cost is 3k,with aprox 3k chips so their cost price is aprox 10k

and noone is interested in participating in my 65 nm at cost price

crazy folks

Because it is not open source dude. your business model is not much different than Asic one.
You get the technology with  our money invested we eventually get good praise from today point's of view and we are going probably to loose our investments from tomorrow point of view




who said it s not opensource?

i ve uploaded all the needed files for the pcb and else
Yeah like avalon competition for Open source PCB I can get the pcb and have the schematics. What i want to have is the PIC software. Have you seen a single participant who uploaded his software in competition - NO i gues same as me. The open source is Klondike project only and nothing else from my point of view.  - Speaking of The ASIC excuse my competence BUT what i mean like open source is you to publish all asic Related Files which are needed for us so that no matter how stupid we are when we go to Fabric and say for instance i wanna have this chip they to be able to produce it. Did you understand what i am up to. But you stated that this aint gona happen if I remember correctly right?



So you  think he is going to give you access to gds and the mask?

hmm
please confirm with them as i would be interested also if this is the case

No he want of course but the difference is
1. He invested own money or at least not collected from community
2. He does not claim that he is open source he is here for the businesses. No doubt about that
3. The magic word open source means nothing anymore

Can I ask you if you claim to be open why you are not giving your mask and GDS and mask to the community
I know do not answer it is NDA shit or you paid cheaper to cut the costs or million reasons which has nothing to do with opensource and most probably is a bulshit
sr. member
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Hmm

awfull pricing comparing my project

the wafer cost is 3k,with aprox 3k chips so their cost price is aprox 10k

and noone is interested in participating in my 65 nm at cost price

crazy folks

Because it is not open source dude. your business model is not much different than Asic one.
You get the technology with  our money invested we eventually get good praise from today point's of view and we are going probably to loose our investments from tomorrow point of view




who said it s not opensource?

i ve uploaded all the needed files for the pcb and else
Yeah like avalon competition for Open source PCB I can get the pcb and have the schematics. What i want to have is the PIC software. Have you seen a single participant who uploaded his software in competition - NO i gues same as me. The open source is Klondike project only and nothing else from my point of view.  - Speaking of The ASIC excuse my competence BUT what i mean like open source is you to publish all asic Related Files which are needed for us so that no matter how stupid we are when we go to Fabric and say for instance i wanna have this chip they to be able to produce it. Did you understand what i am up to. But you stated that this aint gona happen if I remember correctly right?



So you  think he is going to give you access to gds and the mask?

hmm
please confirm with them as i would be interested also if this is the case
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Hmm

awfull pricing comparing my project

the wafer cost is 3k,with aprox 3k chips so their cost price is aprox 10k

and noone is interested in participating in my 65 nm at cost price

crazy folks

Because it is not open source dude. your business model is not much different than Asic one.
You get the technology with  our money invested we eventually get good praise from today point's of view and we are going probably to loose our investments from tomorrow point of view


who said it s not opensource?

i ve uploaded all the needed files for the pcb and else
Yeah like avalon competition for Open source PCB I can get the pcb and have the schematics. What i want to have is the PIC software. Have you seen a single participant who uploaded his software in competition - NO i gues same as me. The open source is Klondike project only and nothing else from my point of view.  - Speaking of The ASIC excuse my competence BUT what i mean like open source is you to publish all asic Related Files which are needed for us so that no matter how stupid we are when we go to Fabric and say for instance i wanna have this chip they to be able to produce it. Did you understand what i am up to. But you stated that this aint gona happen if I remember correctly right?

sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Hmm

awfull pricing comparing my project

the wafer cost is 3k,with aprox 3k chips so their cost price is aprox 10k

and noone is interested in participating in my 65 nm at cost price

crazy folks

Because it is not open source dude. your business model is not much different than Asic one.
You get the technology with  our money invested we eventually get good praise from today point's of view and we are going probably to loose our investments from tomorrow point of view


who said it s not opensource?

i ve uploaded all the needed files for the pcb and else
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Hmm

awfull pricing comparing my project

the wafer cost is 3k,with aprox 3k chips so their cost price is aprox 10k

and noone is interested in participating in my 65 nm at cost price

crazy folks

Because it is not open source dude. your business model is not much different than Asic one.
You get the technology with  our money invested we eventually get good praise from today point's of view and we are going probably to loose our investments from tomorrow point of view
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Hmm

awfull pricing comparing my project

the wafer cost is 3k,with aprox 3k chips so their cost price is aprox 10k

and noone is interested in participating in my 65 nm at cost price

crazy folks
hero member
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https://www.bitmain.com
legendary
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Will you be releasing the code for the micro controller as well?
legendary
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OFFTOPIC :
do u plan to sell more antminers anytime soon ?
sr. member
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I am interested in getting in on this one.  I don't need raw chips though. I need an organized buy of a product that I can plug in and hash with :-)
+1 That is what we all need


And knowing chip cost - reasonably priced plug and play.  Yeah, you know who I'm talking to custom folks. Wink
legendary
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I am interested in getting in on this one.  I don't need raw chips though. I need an organized buy of a product that I can plug in and hash with :-)
+1 That is what we all need
legendary
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I would be able to fund and run a batch of very nice looking miners, complete with plastic housing, manual, shiny box, CE and UL cert and so on. Am in Shanghai, possible to communicate in Chinese.
However I need somebody to do the PCB's reliably without fucking me over.

Anybody interested contact me for details.

Thank you.
hero member
Activity: 630
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Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
I am looking at starting a group buy for chips here. If anyone is interested.


thanks Bestlymac,

The BOM and open sourced documents will be uploaded in two days.
That is great. Will you also be releasing your antminer design?

All the file needed for a antminer S1 design will be uploaded.
Thats great news. Thank you.
hero member
Activity: 741
Merit: 514
https://www.bitmain.com
How many chips are in a S1?

64 chips. 32 chips per board and two boards combined into a dual-blade miner
legendary
Activity: 910
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How many chips are in a S1?

**** Ok, looks like 64, please correct me if I am wrong.
hero member
Activity: 741
Merit: 514
https://www.bitmain.com
I am looking at starting a group buy for chips here. If anyone is interested.


thanks Bestlymac,

The BOM and open sourced documents will be uploaded in two days.
That is great. Will you also be releasing your antminer design?

All the file needed for a antminer S1 design will be uploaded.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
I am interested in getting in on this one.  I don't need raw chips though. I need an organized buy of a product that I can plug in and hash with :-)
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 501
Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
I am looking at starting a group buy for chips here. If anyone is interested.


would you in turn then build a usb with customer chips?  this was done with the bit fury chips by you.
I am sure we could. Potentially even a dual chip usb. It depends what the buyers want.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I am looking at starting a group buy for chips here. If anyone is interested.


would you in turn then build a usb with customer chips?  this was done with the bit fury chips by you.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 501
Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
I am looking at starting a group buy for chips here. If anyone is interested.


thanks Bestlymac,

The BOM and open sourced documents will be uploaded in two days.
That is great. Will you also be releasing your antminer design?
hero member
Activity: 741
Merit: 514
https://www.bitmain.com
I am looking at starting a group buy for chips here. If anyone is interested.


thanks Bestlymac,

The BOM and open sourced documents will be uploaded in two days.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 501
Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
I am looking at starting a group buy for chips here. If anyone is interested.
hero member
Activity: 741
Merit: 514
https://www.bitmain.com
Summary
BM1380 is a Bitcoin mining chip developed by Bitmain, a Chinese based IC company. We use the chip to build S1 Dual Blades, nearly a thousand of which has been sold to the Bitcoin community.

BM1380 can run at different mode, depending on the favorite of the users. It can run at 0.75V core voltage and 0.68J/GH high efficiency which can compete with some 28nm mining chips. At 0.75V the hashing board runs without a heat sink. BM1380 is also running at 1.1V or 1.25V voltage sounding reliably, doubling the hash rate and the efficiency spec still better than most of other 55nm node chips on the market.

Now the chip is open for purchase.

About the Chip


Process Node: 55nm
Number of Cores: 8
Package Type: QFN56
Packaged Chip Size: 8 mm x 8 mm
Rated Hash Rate: 2.8GH/s @ 1.1V

Voltage(V)Core Frequency(MHz)Hash Rate(GH/s)Current(A)Power Consumption(W)
Power Efficiency(J/GH)
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