Topic: Bitplay Club bitcoin lottery - Hit the jackpot! (Read 985 times)

Bitplay offers on-chain roulette game, so there is no things called by "deposit" as you make a bet directly from your wallet to their bet address. So it is not possible for you to make deposit or to send 0.01 but you want to bet 0.0025 only. If you want to bet 0.0025 then send the exact amount only.
I know the main idea here is that you guys are suggesting bitplay to make the roulette become offchain game like other common roulette where you can create an account to make deposit and play any amount you wish directly from the account without creating transactions for everybet.

I'm also the impression that Bitplay always generates a new bitcoin deposit address every time we wanted to make a bet on roulette? What if I deposited 0.01 BTC and just wanted to make just .0025 BTC only?

Maybe i am old school customer. I prefer services where i have personal dashboard.
Yes it is much easy to just send btc to one address and i am in game. But i use Trezor wallet, and every single transaction i need to go wallet page, paste addy, click to accept physically  on my wallet twice, and after that i am finished. From this angle it is not so easy.

in some sense you are right and this is why we will make some special gaming features for the logged-in customers so they could play from their balance but our main goal was to make an anonymous roulette that anybody can play without any registration and we don't really think that the betting process is too complicated..? you are simply sending bitcoins to the specified address and that's it, what can be easier? Though we agree that such game "type" requires sometimes a bit faster currencies that bitcoin is so we will be working on implementing other cryptocurrencies to our Roulette. We appreciate your feedback though, hope you try our Roulette and get lucky

Yeah, you are right. I find "Balance" section on my account and I sent a deposit there. When I try to play I saw that it was not necessary to send BTC as a deposit, just directly in the game. I think it is a great thing if we look at the possibilities but for active use, it is not very convenient. I need to leave the casino and make payments. A simple process has brought complications and too many steps to place a bet.

It seems to me that you think that the Bet address on Roulette table is unique for each player? If that's what you think, then you are wrong. The address is always the same for the same bet. All the players use the same address. Players don't need to register accounts to play Roulette. That is why the prizes are sent AUTOMATICALLY to the same address the bet was made from. In this scenario it would not be enough to simply ask Bitplay BTC deposit address.

Received 0.00015BTC. Now I am waiting for the transaction to Bitplay casino.
why you did not ask Bitplay BTC deposit address, it will be a faster process.

All the payments from the Giveaway have been made. Please make "test" bets in Roulette https://bitplay.club/roulette

This is only the renewal confirmation and not the content of the 365/JAZ license!

To assess the validity of your sub-license, we of course and logically need to see the content of the 365/JAZ "master-license".

Anybody who reads this thread tried our Roulette? If yes, please reply, we would like to ask you several questions. You'll really help us!

Small reminder 
If you want to try out roulette with free satoshi from us, please check this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/get-free-015-mbtc-to-try-bitcoin-roulette-giveaway-from-bitplay-club-5046136
Today is the last day for this giveaway promo!

Thanks for the feedback
It's auto recaptcha, it will ask you to choose some images in case of any suspicious behaviour(failed login or whatever) so if it's not asking to you to anything, it's all good.

If you've ever used Changelly, you could see that they do not show the final amount you would receive because of different fees so since it's thei widget, you can see in the form the approximate amount you'll receive after exchange.

I have to commend your platform, it is very easy to navigate and very fast which is in most others casinos issue. I always have to wait for loading many Java applets or whatever.
When I log in I see the re-captcha module, but they never ask any activity from me, I'm not sure if it's properly configured.
Does auto convert other currency to the Bitcoin based on which price? I guess CMC, but there can be a big difference compared to the real one
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Well, it's an implemented changelly widget so yep, they all can be used for depositing but they will be auto converted into btc at the end of the day so BTC will be added to your balance, not altcoins

As I see you've left your details in our giveaway thread, so we will send you those free satoshi to the wallet which you can use to try out the roulette..or lottery but if you ask me then roulette would be better, it's a new game, we want as many people to try it out as possible

Wow, I am just registered on Bitplay casino, I see there many altcoins available for deposit. Can all actions in the drop-down menu be used to deposit?

also, there is no any free coins or faucet options to try how it works?

Hello everyone!

Please have a look at this thread, it might be interesting for some of you: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/get-free-015-mbtc-to-try-bitcoin-roulette-giveaway-from-bitplay-club-5046136

Hello Game-Protect,
Thanks for the follow up...
Here is the license..
Page 1
Page 2

This is what you've asked for...we kept our word...your turn.

Hello BitPlayClub

The chronology is as follows:

1) 365/JAZ license

2) BitPlayClub sub-license based on 365/JAZ license

Without 1) no 2)

Therefore to assess the validity of 2) we logically and definitely first need to see 1)

Where is it?

Thanks for the feedback!
We realize that some people might want to place the bet on random numbers at once, but since we have auto payouyt of the prize to the address you placed a bet, we can't generate some random address each time for every random combination the player wants to bet so here is one number/area = 1 bet(transaction). You'll need to send separate transactions on different types of bets. It's not like Roulette in a regular online casino...here you don't need to register an account and the only mediator between you and your prize is your btc wallet address and it's kind of hard(if not impossible) to generate random address for random combinations each time. SO the only possible variant for you is to make separate bets on 2, 4, 15, 27, 35 etc..

Please let me know if that helps!

The roulette looks simple and good enough, but I'm a bit confuse because I cant make a bet with some random numbers. Did I miss something here on how to place such random numbers in one bet only? As I can see, it is only possible to bet on some numbers which is in a row or in a column only. It would be better if you make it possible to bet on what I want to try, i.e I want to bet on 2 4 15 27 35 etc.

In short, players shouldnt use up exchange wallet or any other local wallets which would really have multi-address once do sent out a specific transaction.Thanks for the reminders.

Hello friends!

As you may know, there are wallets that use “alternative/not your addresses” while processing your transaction. Please keep in mind that in order to play our Roulette, you need to be sure that you are sending your Bitcoins(bet) from your address because in case the bet wins, the prize will be automatically paid out to the address the money came from.

So please, pay attention!

Good luck!
https://bitplay.club/roulette

Yes, you have shown us your sub-license, but the validity of your sub-license of course and logically depends on the content of the 365/JAZ master-license!

Where is the 365/JAZ master-license?

Or do you claim to operate under something you have never seen?  

Show me the 365/JAZ master-license and I will leave this thread?

We are able We operate under the license number 365/JAZ Sub-License GLH-OCCHKTW0704102018. We've already shown it
Have a great day!

Gaming Services Provider N.V. confirms that Bitplay Club N.V. operates under its 365/JAZ license.

And to assess if this claim is legitimate or what are the conditions of this agreement, we of course and logically need to see the 365/JAZ license.

To claim to operate under the 365/JAZ license but are not willing to show it is nonsense!

If you claim to operate under something, you must be able to show it.

Dear Bitplay,
I think you need to stop responding to game project question because he was giving red trust for the same act. However, he ask you to provide the proof of your license which you did and he never provide a single proof of all his saying. I am saying this cause i checked his past history and I found that he will keep on trolling.

To evaluate if Gaming Services Provider N.V. is authorized to issue sub-licenses and under what conditions, we need to see their 365/JAZ license.

Where is it?

It's interesting that you first told that we are scammers and only after that asked to show the license.



And yes, that would be all for you

Read my question again?

I asked you if you agree that the Government of Curaçao issued the 365/JAZ license to Gaming Services Provider N.V. and not to Bitplay Club N.V.?

Ok, please show us your sub-license?

Your sub-license must be a document / contract between Bitplay Club N.V. and 365/JAZ license holder Gaming Services Provider N.V.


According to which license can you receive a sub-license?


Only because you are not mentally able to understand what is written there does not mean it is not explained there.

Of course do we not publicize the evidence of 1000s of hours investigation. But we can make it unlike more easier:

You show us your license?


You are clueless about legal things and need a scam expert to receive a fake license! How specifically are you able to assess whether or not your scam agent is an expert in regard to Curaçao licensing laws and rules?


I can open a website claiming I am the Emperor of China and according to you that would be 100% true!  

The part you are not able to understand is that if you claim to legally operate under the 365/JAZ license, then you have to show it and not I have to show that your claim has no legal basis!

No one will believe something said by someone who was giving red trust by reputable green trust member Luptin, Suchmoon, Ognasty etc for blackmailing front masquerading, offering of fake legal advice/services and trolling. However, I checked the site he posted either and there is no tangible evidence to proof what he said was truth.
I will advice the Bitplay representative to ignore him and do what is right to secure their business.

We agree that we have a siblicense, it's mentioned on our website. We agree that according to this license we can receive a sublicense

Nothing is explained on your website It's just your statements, it looks like you've decides that everything is written there is true. We didn't see there any explanations or evidences of your words.

Yes, he's our agent, but he's an expertised agent

P.S. We can open a thread here on Bitcointalk saying that everything written on your website is not true and you are scammer. According to you that would be 100% true

Why your claim to operate under the 365/JAZ license has no legal basis is explained here Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ

Do you agree that the Government of Curaçao issued the 365/JAZ license to Gaming Services Provider N.V. and not to Bitplay Club N.V.?

I asked your license agent about your past and he said you killed five people!  

What a license agent says that lives from your money is usually not worth 5 cents!  

What does this list prove except you stating it's a list of scammers?

P.S. We've contacted our license agent regarding this actually and they mentioned that this informationg has nothing to do with the reality. With all the respect, we doubt you have enough expertise to state things you've been stating.

Thanks for the feedback The card payments implementation has been indeed tough and long procedure and we are really happy it's now available. Please let us know what you think about the roulette betting process and page design in general. We understand that it might be not ideal

What is a decentralized bitcoin egaming site?

They claim to operate under the 365/JAZ license and have to enforce KYC and AML laws!

Went through your website and I like the fact that you guys are doing your best in putting things together to give customers satisfaction in terms of been a decentralized bitcoin egaming site even with the implementation of credit card payments which was not easy to find this days.

Unfortunately you are on the Curacao license scam 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ and 8048/JAZ list!

But nice try though.

Hello guys!
We are happy to announce the release of a new game – European Bitcoin Roulette.

The game is based on Bitcoin blockchain. It works like this:

• You choose the bet and send BTC to the address associated with the bet.
  

• Then you wait for results. Our algorithms encode the hash of the block that contains your transaction, the block height, the block time and the hash of the previous block. Based on that data, the algorithms will generate a number from 0 to 36.

• That number will determine whether your bet lost or won. In case the bet wins, you get an AUTOMATIC payout to the same address you used to place the bet.
  

You may check it out on our website: https://bitplay.club/roulette/

And that’s not everything 

We’ve added the Portuguese language, as we have a decent number of players from Brazil. A Brazilian Portuguese dialect, to be precise.

In addition, we’ve redesigned the home page to accommodate the new game!

We are waiting for your feedback regarding the Roulette. Let us know what you think. We’d appreciate any feedback you share with us!

Thanks,
Bitplay Club

Hello guys!

We’ve finally released VISA/MasterCardpayment option Now you can participate in our Bitcoin lottery paying for your tickets with cards. That’s just an awesome chance for those who don’t have Bitcoins but don’t mind getting them

We use the Coindesk BPI for converting the price to USD. Please check it out!

P.S. The new shopping cart has been released recently, let us know if it’s “user friendly” enough

https://bitplay.club/getlucky

Hello Everyone,

We are going through the complicated process of implementing card payments on our platform and one of the key features of this is a redesigned process of ticket purchase!

The new design has been released already, please check it out and let us know what you think about it! Every feedback is so important to us!

P.S. We assume there are people here who haven’t played the lottery yet. If you read this post, would you share your feedback about this and let us know what we should work on to become a service you’d be happy to use? 

The JACKPOT for 6-45 lottery is now almost 8 BTC !

https://bitplay.club/getlucky

Hello everybody

Bitplay Club - provably fair Bitcoin lottery announces the release of Thai website version. We have a lot of customers from Asia so Thai language is one of the first that we've released.

Our main jackpot is more than 6 Bitcoins now! Try your luck today!

https://bitplay.club/getlucky

Hello  
The powerball winning odds for Grand Prize is 1 in 292,201,338.00 but people win, right? I’m trying to give you an example that it’s not correct to calculate the winning odds as 1 in XXX days. Winning odds are calculated according to math methods. Each combination of 2, 3, 4, 5 has its own chances to draw. The odds are the following:

5   1: 376 992
4   1: 2 432
3   1: 81
2   1: 8

So basically, according to the math methods, you get 2 matching numbers from 8 tickets, 3 matching numbers from 81 tickets etc. But that’s only a math, the theory of probability has its own rules which is why people hit millions by guessing 5 or 6 numbers in different lotteries playing their first time. In other words, you never know when the luck strikes, it might be today with one ticket or tomorrow with 10 tickets, it’s a luck.

The logic is basically the same for 6-45 lottery, the odds differ.

As to your KYC question, well, we don’t have it at the moment and we are not about to add it. However, we are planning to add Credit Card payment as an option so then, if the payment processing service requires us to run KYC policy, we might do it. We don’t have a final info about it yet as the compliance procedure is still processing but we hope it wouldn’t concern crypto payments in any way.

as you have a license do you need to ask the KYC when a winner wants to withdraw?

the drawing is once a day. chances for hitting the 5/36 are 1:376992
this tells me that in average once in 376992 days a Jackpot is hit
the million $ question is now:
how many years are 376992 days?

the drawing is once a day. chances for hitting the 6/45 are 1:8145060
this tells me that in average once in 8145060 days a Jackpot is hit
the million $ question is now:
how many years are 8145060 days?

please correct me if I am wrong

good luck

Hello friends!   

As Bitplay Club lotteries continue to gain traction, we thought we might remind you that our platform is a duly licensed Curaçao-based egaming business.

The license that we obtained provides our customers with extra confidence and trust as to the reliability and transparency of our operations. The licensing information can be viewed at the bottom of our website page.

Play and win confidently! If you haven’t tried your luck yet, it’s a great time now to fill out a few tickets, and try to hit over 5 Bitcoins!

https://bitplay.club/getlucky

Hello everyone!

We are excited to inform you about the release of a brand new Bitcoin lottery game - 5x36!

This game has fixed prizes depending on the amount of winning numbers you have in your ticket and a starting jackpot of 0.2 BTC which will be growing day by day until it's hit!

The price of the ticket becaome even chearper, it's only 0.00005 BTC!!!

The game is still provably fair and you can make sure in it using our open source formula!

Hurry up and try your luck, the odds are just awesome!

Our website: https://bitplay.club/getlucky

So the only thing that stopps you from trying out our lottery is lack of public mentions about some real players/winners in our lottery? Maybe there is something else and we could improvae that "something"

Well, we do have winners every day, people just don't share those results, probably that's because nobody hit the jackpot yet We will try to work out some contest which will encourage people share their winning results by receiving some kind of bonus/reward for it.

We don't accept customers from that geos because of some juridical reasons and we believe it would be incorrect to advise you on how to pass over those restrictions.

Of course we are aware of YABTCL lottery, we will do our best to improve our product by implementing different features that will be popular among our customers. We will definitely add either lottery with instant draws or some other game with instant results, that's for sure. Free lottery, well, we are currently implementing the free tickets feature and it will be available soon, we will be giving those out sometimes to our customers to try out the lottery. Huge jackpot...well, that's a separate story

Even on yabtcl.com i dont really see any interest for people to play lottery games. Free lottery was good to but i checked out its still disabled. Copying ideas into some lottery based sites isnt bad and talking about graphics between sites i do love on the things i do saw on bitplay. I cant see any history on someone who had tried out this new site.

would be nice to see any actual real players posting their wins or experience with the site
looks like it is not too popular,since you don't accept the US or Canada customers
please,clarify your stance on using VPN or proxies in case of a jackpot win

there is also this site: https://yabtcl.com it has been around for ages and they offer instant draws,huge jackpot,free lottery
(currently disabled though)
think you should look at their site and take some of the ideas and implement them

Everyone is welcome to visit our website and use our DEMO PLAY to see how much you could win with your ticket combination!

This feature will help you understand how much you could win in the previous draws!

https://bitplay.club/

Hello everyone!

Our lottery is a Bitcoin based one: all from price tickets to jackpot is determined in Bitcoins but…from now on those of you who want to top up Bitplay account balance with altcoins can easily do it with the help of an integrated exchange service without leaving our website.

The process is automated so all you need to do is send your altcoins to the given address and receive Bitcoins to your balance which you can later use for ticket purchasing.

Hurry up and try to hit the jackpot of 4.295209 Bitcoins!

Hello Friends!

We will release an exchange service this week so those of you who have altcoins and want to exchange those to BTC to participate in our lottery will be able to do it. We will make an official update once it's done so you could check it out and give us your feedback!

Please let us know what additional features/games you'd like us to release!

Thank you in advance

Hello friends,
Simple and intuitive interface was one of the key factors for us while working on the product, however some of the customers still ask a lot of questions regarding different aspects of the lottery.
We decided to add the step by step tutorial showing up after your first login. It would be much appreciated if you could give us your feedback regarding the tutorial, if it makes things clearer or not and regarding the interface in general, your feedback is very important to us!
Thank you in advance and good luck!

Sure, the draw is held every day. It's closed at 08:00 UTC.

We will be adding more games soon with more frequent or even instant draws

Daily Lottery?

Hello community!

Sorry for the delay with the proofs, we have so many things to be done since the launch...

Anyway, here are the detailes of the signed transaction which you can verify:

Address: 1LT5Rck8WdNbJQEngSZQHQv2CYwWHeP28j

Message: bitplay.club jackpot

Signature: H86KYhHuesqnCfeiygLLLPowB2GtsMV/hcJuGGAm4LXVKSrTC78thWlRl9cMV/Xs2Du2HpdUsHOw9X8Wwfd1dD4=

We hope that you will try out our lottery soon!

As to the results of the numbers, we have a draw history on our website, did you have a chance to have a look at it?

Let me know if you have any additional questions, I'm here for you.

As others have mentioned we really need to see proof you actually hold at the minimal the four bitcoins that you posting as the " jackpot " . I cant speak for other people but i personally want to make sure you actually hold the bitcoins now and not depending on other people to buy tickets to fund the initial jackpot prize. Also where would you be posting results of numbers that are picked.

Unfortunately fiat payments are not available at the moment but they can be added in future, it's not a quick process though.
Btw, we consider using some service for auto exchange. Users will pay in other crypto currencies through the instrument that we implement via API and it will be converted to BTC and deposited to their balance. There are similar services like this on the market, I'm sure you know about them. What do you guys think about this option? It would be interesting to know your opinion as at the end of the day it's all done for the better user experience.

You cant, the only payment method on this site is bitcoin. How could you ask like that in this bitcoin forum? It is reasonable if you ask for different payment using altcoins, but with VISA/Mastercard? Better to buy some bitcoin first if you really want to play in this lottery.

Design is really good, i like it very much. Can I pay for the ticket with VISA/Mastercard?

It’s true, we don’t accept customers from US and Canada at the moment but it’s a not final decision. We hope to be open for those regions thus, our lawyers are currently working on it as there are a lot of subtle aspects but everyone makes his own decision whether to use VPN or not.
As to the jackpot funds, I will update you soon, we are dealing with it!

yes,the community is always behind a new project that is fair and transparent
we are waiting for the proof of funds,though,before even attempting to play
also not available for the US and Canada residents means they cannot deposit?
what happens if a player from the US uses VPN,deposits and then wins jackpot
will he be able to recieve it?

Thank you, we will try to dispel a doubt by showing the wallet address with the jackpot funds.

As to the house edge, since it's a last message, I will sum up the reply to all the previous bitcointalkers that expressed their opinion about the prize pool and the house edge.
Yes guys, we do understand that it's always more money is always better than less   but you have to understand that gambling niche is very competitive. We want to make our lottery as popular as it's possible. Marketing costs a lot of money so we need to pay a great portion of the income to different affiliate partners. That 40% mostly consists from the marketing, only a small portion goes to the project needs because it's impossible to make some profit in the very beginning of the journey...so if we allocate more to the prize fund, there might be a situation that potential affiliate partners simply won't be interested in promoting us...You see, this decision wasn't an impulsive decision, we made a lot of researches and came to the conclusion that it's an ideal scenario that is suitable for the current market situation, maybe things will change when our service will grow. Some of you told that this is lower than our competitors offer but it's not exactly correct, we offer very low ticket price for 6-45 lottery and it will be even lower for the new lottery, we don't want to be greedy, we want everyone to have the same possibility and odds to win.

We appreciate every feedback you guys leave, it's very important to us at the launch stage.

Please let me know if you have any other thoughts or questions.

I will update the topic later with the details regarding the wallet address with jackpot funds.

May the luck be with you!

Thank you for sharing your feedback, we do appreciate that.
As I have stated earlier, we will definitely show you the wallet address with the jackpot funds to prove that we are not playing around here.

Thank you for taking your time leaving this feedback.
We will make sure to show you the wallet address with the jackpot funds. We want to build a strong community and a great service so we'll try to pay attention to all the feedbacks and requests from the community!

P.S. This lottery has a percentage based prize pool but we will release another lottery game soon, with the fixed multiplied payouts for each category, please stay tuned, we will make an update once it's released.
As to this very lottery, well, the odds for hitting 2 numbers are really great so we believe it's better to get one more attempt to try the luck rather than just not get anything

We use an open source formula for receiving the winning numbers for each draw. In short, the formula for the lottery 6 out of 45 starts checking every ODD block found in blockchain after 10:00 UTC and based on its hash, height and the hash of the previous block it calculates the winnings number. If the same number has drawn again, the formula will skip such block and will take for the next odd block. This way anybody can check the results of the draw, compare it with the data from blockchain.info and make sure that we didn't just put the numbers that we wanted
You can find more details with the examples here: https://bitplay.club/draw/6-45/fairplay

Alright, we will make sure to show you guys the wallet address with the jackpot amount.

As to the prize pool, I will try to sum up the info in a separate comment since not only you asked about it

Thank you for your feedback, that means a lot to us!

May the luck be with you!

I agree, would love to see a signed message than can prove that you guys own 4 bitcoins. This will prove that you are serious, because right now I am still in doubt.
The others are also right, your "house edge" is way too high.

60% allocation would really not justifiable on this kind of lottery they do took too much commission and if this rate wouldnt change then it would really be stepped down by similar competitor regarding on lottery based sites.I do really like to see too that they do have those funds to show transparency and capability that they can really pay up players that you potentially won not like just putting up some huge number just for the sake on luring in.

honesty and transparency we have never seen before,nice slogan
I would to see the proof of funds,a signed message will do,just for transaprency
if I (or any other lucky guy) hit  the jackpot tomorrow,how are you planning to pay it?
other than that,the site looks good,the 60%-40% system seems ridiculously unfair,though
and if I guess 2 numbers correctly I'm getting my money back only,should at least make it 2x or do not pay at all-increase other prizes instead

Only 60% of ticket price goes to jackpot which is really low compared to what other competitors so you should try to lower your commission.

Also is your lottery provably fair?

4BTC as initial jackpot, you need to prove that you guys have those amount in your bitcoin address by signing a message.

Thank you! We will be more than happy to hear your feedback after you check the the website 

Nice site ill visit this tomorrow

Hello friends,
My name is Stan, I'm the official rep of BitPlay Club here on the forum so if you have any questions, please ask, I'll be happy to help