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Topic: Bitstamp withdraw requirements? (Read 560 times)

legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1015
November 19, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
#6

I totally understand and agree with that.
But I have two problems for which I found no answers on bitstamp website:

1)Large part of my coins are from mining, from ages ago.
I have no paper trail to justify these coins.
How bitstamp deals with mined coins?
I see sometime that exchanges ask for paper trail about coins acquisition but... if you have mined your coins long time ago, what do you have to provide?
I may have some GPU receipts somewhere, for the hardware I used to mine.
But I doubt it is enough.

2)Part of my coins has been acquired on BTC-e, legally.
I have a paper trail for this, a wire fiat deposit to ok pay from my personal account.
I have seen that sometime licensed exchange froze coins obtained from gambling sites and other "unclear" sources...
I was wondering if my coins from BTC-e, although obtained legally, are somewhat "tainted" and therefore will be frozen due to recent events.

Thank you




This can be a dilemma as one never knows what might or could happen when trading on exchanges. They can be quite unpredictable. In any case, you need to be prepared for the unexpected or the inevitable. If you mined the coins, you may be asked to substantiate that. If you purchased them from BTC-e and if they are tainted, then you might be asked to justify the purchase.

Bitstamp probably subscribes to Elliptic's forensic services which does an excellent job in blockchain analysis.



Actually their blockchain analysis is not so excellent at all  Grin they are making blatant errors and false claims. For example, I deposited from a cold wallet that was last used in 2013. I deposited directly to Bitstamp from that cold wallet address. They claimed that according to their "block chain analysis" those coins were connected to a particular cryptocurrency service. However, that cryptocurrency service was created in 2014. So there is no possible connection.

edit: nevertheless, after 7 days they decided to give my withdrawal a green light (see their last response below)
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thank you for your explanation.

We have successfully concluded the periodic review and have instructed our payments department to further process your pending withdrawal transfer. You will receive an e-mail notification as soon as the process is concluded and funds have been sent to the designated account.

However, we would like to remind you that this Bitstamp account is for your personal and non-commercial use and the possible liquidation of the Bitcoins, received as donations on your website, is not allowed.

Should you have any questions or require any assistance in the future we are at your service.

So that said, I can conclude that at the end of the day, when you answer all their questions no matter how irrelevant those questions may sound, they are willing to process your withdrawal. It took me a week and I had to refer to certain TXs and Bitcoin addresses to prove the origin of my coins, but at least they did not delay it any further from the point where it became obvious that my coins are legit. Bitstamp is alright. Just be prepared for long interviews.
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 1082
August 28, 2017, 08:00:53 PM
#5

I totally understand and agree with that.
But I have two problems for which I found no answers on bitstamp website:

1)Large part of my coins are from mining, from ages ago.
I have no paper trail to justify these coins.
How bitstamp deals with mined coins?
I see sometime that exchanges ask for paper trail about coins acquisition but... if you have mined your coins long time ago, what do you have to provide?
I may have some GPU receipts somewhere, for the hardware I used to mine.
But I doubt it is enough.

2)Part of my coins has been acquired on BTC-e, legally.
I have a paper trail for this, a wire fiat deposit to ok pay from my personal account.
I have seen that sometime licensed exchange froze coins obtained from gambling sites and other "unclear" sources...
I was wondering if my coins from BTC-e, although obtained legally, are somewhat "tainted" and therefore will be frozen due to recent events.

Thank you




This can be a dilemma as one never knows what might or could happen when trading on exchanges. They can be quite unpredictable. In any case, you need to be prepared for the unexpected or the inevitable. If you mined the coins, you may be asked to substantiate that. If you purchased them from BTC-e and if they are tainted, then you might be asked to justify the purchase.

Bitstamp probably subscribes to Elliptic's forensic services which does an excellent job in blockchain analysis.

newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
August 28, 2017, 08:12:57 AM
#4
They are regulated and properly licensed. They are jealously protecting their accreditation in Luxembourg so you should expect to be required to verify your account.
This. People should be preparing for verification, no matter what.

I totally understand and agree with that.
But I have two problems for which I found no answers on bitstamp website:

1)Large part of my coins are from mining, from ages ago.
I have no paper trail to justify these coins.
How bitstamp deals with mined coins?
I see sometime that exchanges ask for paper trail about coins acquisition but... if you have mined your coins long time ago, what do you have to provide?
I may have some GPU receipts somewhere, for the hardware I used to mine.
But I doubt it is enough.

2)Part of my coins has been acquired on BTC-e, legally.
I have a paper trail for this, a wire fiat deposit to ok pay from my personal account.
I have seen that sometime licensed exchange froze coins obtained from gambling sites and other "unclear" sources...
I was wondering if my coins from BTC-e, although obtained legally, are somewhat "tainted" and therefore will be frozen due to recent events.

Thank you

legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1427
August 28, 2017, 03:55:36 AM
#3
They are regulated and properly licensed. They are jealously protecting their accreditation in Luxembourg so you should expect to be required to verify your account.

This. People should be preparing for verification, no matter what. I think it's fair to say that Bitstamp's verification process is one of the strictest amongst all exchanges. I am quite a long term verified Bitstamp user, and at some point, they forced me to walk to the verification process once again. There was basically no way of ignoring this requirement from Bitstamp since this would mean that I wouldn't be able to withdraw anything in the meantime. Don't forget that even if you don't actually withdraw fiat, but just do on-exchange crypto versus fiat trading, Bitstamp will take it very seriously. As mentioned before by above user - Bitstamp is a properly licensed exchange, so everything you do versus fiat trading (again, even if you don't actually withdraw fiat) will be taken very seriously by them. Not verifying yourself will result in frozen funds.
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 1082
August 27, 2017, 10:31:50 PM
#2
I remember one case here where he was asked to provide proof of origin of coins or the fiat used to obtain those coins. They also have an uncanny habit of giving customers the silent treatment when they are investigating something. Very unsettling and worrying especially if it's all the coins or money you own. A hostage-taking situation.

Verification is almost always mandatory for fiat or coin movements to/from this exchange and isn't usually dealt with instantly. When KYC-vetted and verified there is still a chance that you might be asked for more information about your financial circumstances, sometimes extending to a point where it feels personally invasive and intrusive. Non-compliance will trigger the silent treatment thing I mentioned above.

They are regulated and properly licensed. They are jealously protecting their accreditation in Luxembourg so you should expect to be required to verify your account.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
August 27, 2017, 08:28:16 PM
#1
Hello,
 old topic I know, but I'm looking for confirmation.
I plan to open a Bitstamp account to trade LTC.
I obliviously plan to verify my account (ID and Residence), I'm in UE.

Before sending my documents I have a question:

I only want to trade for coins. I'll send my coin, sell them high (USD, EUR or whatever pair is convenient) re-buy them low, always closing my position in coins.
I do NOT intend to withdraw FIAT.
Therefore the question, are coins withdraws someway limited or do they require additional verification beyond ID and residence?
I'm trying to avoid the scenario where my coins are blocked in some exchange account, for some strange reason Smiley

Thank you
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