bitsweep on Bit-exo.com is not fair.

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Quote from: joksim299 on May 13, 2016, 07:09:25 PM

Bombs are just illusion, there are no bombs on the field.
Outcome is determined when you click, regardless of position.

I think the system as dice. you will lose when you've played long enough in the game. I've tried the game minesweeper in bitexo. Believe it or not. I always lose in 304 box. I always fail for that
I never even hit a bomb for the first box. and it happened several times when using large amout

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Quote from: ndnh on May 14, 2016, 12:04:44 AM

Quote from: libby515 on May 13, 2016, 08:31:42 PM

Quote from: joksim299 on May 13, 2016, 07:09:25 PM

Bombs are just illusion, there are no bombs on the field.
Outcome is determined when you click, regardless of position.

agree 100%, its just a illusion, anyone who plays this game knows this.
Bit-Exo is one of the best sites out there, the owners are adding things all the time to enhance the site.

Bit-Exo works like that because Moneypot handles bets as rolls (for those who don't know). So every click would be a roll. (Position doesn't matter.)

On the other hand, sites like satoshimines pick the position of the mines. (Position matters.)
https://satoshimines.com/s/78434566/MhQwH4tAxbdo/
Secret : Secret: 9-15-14-MhQwH4tAxbdo SHA-256 Hash : e8cd7ff770da572bf7f39b57ceb6a519b71f66a9c5660ac6ec399279d29fe1e5

Note: I don't know if satoshimines is legit atm. I tested in practice mode.

exactly it works how moneypot can handle it but its not making digging fair

and that is maybe fair by moneypot but its not fair game

and that should not be named bitsweeper.
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-Katerniko1

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Quote from: libby515 on May 13, 2016, 08:31:42 PM

Quote from: joksim299 on May 13, 2016, 07:09:25 PM

Bombs are just illusion, there are no bombs on the field.
Outcome is determined when you click, regardless of position.

agree 100%, its just a illusion, anyone who plays this game knows this.
Bit-Exo is one of the best sites out there, the owners are adding things all the time to enhance the site.

Bit-Exo works like that because Moneypot handles bets as rolls (for those who don't know). So every click would be a roll. (Position doesn't matter.)

On the other hand, sites like satoshimines pick the position of the mines. (Position matters.)
https://satoshimines.com/s/78434566/MhQwH4tAxbdo/
Secret : Secret: 9-15-14-MhQwH4tAxbdo SHA-256 Hash : e8cd7ff770da572bf7f39b57ceb6a519b71f66a9c5660ac6ec399279d29fe1e5

Note: I don't know if satoshimines is legit atm. I tested in practice mode.

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Quote from: quintiilieo on May 13, 2016, 09:35:51 PM

I think if they use provably fair their company site will lose all of their bitcoin so they use it as a strategy to earn more bitcoin. But you can win their make a strategy, i think if you create starategy their you can win it. Because all of the Gambling site i think their provably fair is not fair because they cant earn if they not cheat to us. Only some people win because many of our strategy is greedyness so i think that is the cause of losses in gambling site.

It's funny how many people don't understand how gambling websites work. Probably fair websites will profit in the long run. Why? The house edge gives then an advantage, and it means that the casino will profit in the long run since a house edge means a positive EV (expected value) for the house. Also, Bit-Exo wants people to win, since they profit off of people betting, and if people win a bunch, they will churn though their winnings causing more being wagered.

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Quote from: quintiilieo on May 13, 2016, 09:35:51 PM

I think if they use provably fair their company site will lose all of their bitcoin so they use it as a strategy to earn more bitcoin. But you can win their make a strategy, i think if you create starategy their you can win it. Because all of the Gambling site i think their provably fair is not fair because they cant earn if they not cheat to us. Only some people win because many of our strategy is greedyness so i think that is the cause of losses in gambling site.

Bit-exo is an app on Moneypot, so nope they lose nothing when their players win. And nope, the game has a positive EV from the point of view of Moneypot investors, and they will win in the long run even when the game is fair.

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I think if they use provably fair their company site will lose all of their bitcoin so they use it as a strategy to earn more bitcoin. But you can win their make a strategy, i think if you create starategy their you can win it. Because all of the Gambling site i think their provably fair is not fair because they cant earn if they not cheat to us. Only some people win because many of our strategy is greedyness so i think that is the cause of losses in gambling site.

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Quote from: BigMac on May 13, 2016, 08:52:43 PM

Quote from: flippy on May 13, 2016, 07:07:03 PM

Bit-exo instead simulates it - instead of having mines in preset places when the game begins, every tile you click is treated as a new bet, where your chance of the next tile revealing a mine is based on the calculated odds of that tile being a mine in a normal game. When you end/lose a game, the site randomly chooses places where the mines would have been purely as a visual gimmick.

Interesting. I haven't checked their minesweeper game in the past. So if I play a game with one bomb, it is essential just a 96% dice bet, and which box does I click has zero effect, right?

Correct. It is basically dice, except it looks better and feels more suspenseful. Clicking on multiple tiles is basically a chained dice bet. Bit-Exo should change it so that it actually matters though, by changing the range of the losing outcome based on which block you click. Would make it a bit more fun, knowing that your click affects if you lose rather than thinking "It doesn't matter what I click, it will either lose or win". Bit-Exo is probably reading this, so please consider adding that.

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Quote from: flippy on May 13, 2016, 07:07:03 PM

Bit-exo instead simulates it - instead of having mines in preset places when the game begins, every tile you click is treated as a new bet, where your chance of the next tile revealing a mine is based on the calculated odds of that tile being a mine in a normal game. When you end/lose a game, the site randomly chooses places where the mines would have been purely as a visual gimmick.

Interesting. I haven't checked their minesweeper game in the past. So if I play a game with one bomb, it is essential just a 96% dice bet, and which box does I click has zero effect, right?

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Quote from: joksim299 on May 13, 2016, 07:09:25 PM

Bombs are just illusion, there are no bombs on the field.
Outcome is determined when you click, regardless of position.

Than means people are not playing by real minesweeper rules, but instead are using simulated field with mines created at random on the fly?
So the game itself is probably fair - but isn't this version defeats the purpose of the minesweeper game in the first place?

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Quote from: joksim299 on May 13, 2016, 07:09:25 PM

Bombs are just illusion, there are no bombs on the field.
Outcome is determined when you click, regardless of position.

agree 100%, its just a illusion, anyone who plays this game knows this.
Bit-Exo is one of the best sites out there, the owners are adding things all the time to enhance the site.

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Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Bombs are just illusion, there are no bombs on the field.
Outcome is determined when you click, regardless of position.

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As far as I know, Moneypot doesn't support games where the player makes additional choices after the initial bet - so simple games like Dice work, but things like Minesweeper/Blackjack don't. Bit-exo instead simulates it - instead of having mines in preset places when the game begins, every tile you click is treated as a new bet, where your chance of the next tile revealing a mine is based on the calculated odds of that tile being a mine in a normal game. When you end/lose a game, the site randomly chooses places where the mines would have been purely as a visual gimmick.

Although it works differently from sites such as diggit, bit-exo's version is provably fair - if you look at the FAQ tab on the site, you are given the details you require to determine that the previous move was provably fair.

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hello everyone who will read this.
so firstly what makes me think that is:
checking while digging is not possible, if you check their provably fair all you can see is: http://prntscr.com/b3r9qs
but that is not provably fair on sweeper you cant check were their ¨bombs¨ at that place when you clicked it, lovers of digging will know site Diggit.io
that site went dark yes but they had nicely and fairly done minesweeper where when you wanted to check your game you could see where bombs are placed and did they cheat or not, here actually you can see raw outcome witch says you lost, but you cant see if they set up that bomb by cheating or was it really provably fair..
that is my standing on that game...
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-Katerniko1

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