Topic: Black Arrow [blackarrowsoftware.com]: All Things Considered - Divulged (Read 18071 times)

He's right here:
https://www.facebook.com/Borito4

Where are you now Matt Carson?

Really who the fuck are you a new user coming in here and talking shit to people who lost thousands and thousands of dollars to a fucking scam? I'd call you a fucking loser but it's me that's lost. 

Wipe the jizz off your chin and get fucking lost.

Well he seems to think I deserve to be scammed for complaining about being scammed, sound familiar?

Whose sockpuppet is this?

and I paid in 2013, still nothing.

That post was from 2014 bro

Every customer got "scammed", some received worthless miners 6 months to a year late and some like me have received nothing at all.

http://www.beoffices.com/servicedoffice-locations/south-east/reading

Doubt you'll find anyone

you are truly one mad guy noone has been scammed yet..

According to Matt Carson, Black Arrow's office is no longer located in Reading. It's located at some secret location in London.

I will gladly tip you if you are able to do this. I have an early preorder I am regretting.

that is seriously crazy talk...
lending section is basically useless now.
you see how quickly the scam section fills up each week ?? A yr or two ago it was just "blah blah scammed me" thread and I don't remember seeing close to the amount of scam accusation threads.

securities has always been very degenerative... but now their are a small amount of decent ones so I agree that is slightly better.

strong voice doesnt do anything when people can just sign up with tor over and over ( all tho this has been addressed now i think??).. people only get banned if they annoy theymos... forums gets hacked into every month.. noone cares... All the changes need to come from the top.

Tomatocage does a gr8 job as well and he has defnetly stopped people getting scammed and should continue what he does... but unfortunately if that was all it took the scam accusation section wouldnt be getting filled up constantly each week right ?

Once again, (and I'm sorry for this OT post, Bruno, feel free to shoot a PM and I will delete it), I disagree.
When I joined, about a year ago, there were MUCH more people getting scammed, at least in marketpace and lending subs.
It's maybe a wrong feeling, but it seems to me that efforts have made those places safer. I agree we still need to improve on mining sub, though. There are means to acheive this, though, all we need is some strong voice as Tomato currently operating in lending/scamming, dedicated to issuing warnings in the mining sub.

nah i wasn't saying what he was doing was wrong.. I know he does help out people with his findings which is  good..
i was just asking why he bothers after 3 years ? take the people in the active miner thread.  that ken guy could come in and post an update saying "hello" and the clowns will convince themselves after 8 pages that "hello" somehow translte to "i'm getting XXnm chips and they will be ready soon"
obviously that was slightly exagerated :] but still... forum has reached critical retardation levels and now newbie restrictions gone its only going to get worse.

Seriously! At one time, that was ~1.25M+ USD of my own money I couldn't use. Today, it's only about half as much, but I'm pretty sure I could do great things for myself and family then the person who's kindly currently holding it for me.

Because I already answered it, but Alex Sovu/Alex Berk deleted the posts, but luckily for those that don't understand satire, this...

wat

Au contraire, for I'm still out 1,132 BTC stuck at InstaWallet since April, 2014.

I've been waiting and waiting for the pertinent info from bobsag3 in order to do so. I'm still waiting.

"CEX.io: A bad idea if you think you can use it to mine."

Should be their new slogan. It seems pretty scummy to me that you would advertise such a service you know will not return profit on its investors.

As for your post it really only consisted of "BA is bad mmkay"

Serious question: Have any of you armchair sleuths tried contacting verisilicon (The people making the chips for BA)? Surely you would be able to dig up some shit more convincing than what you have done so far.

CEX.io isn't a scam, it's just a bad idea if you think you can use it to mine. I use it to trade and for that it's a very good idea if you know what you're doing. It has predictable trading patterns and no fees, it's a trading no brainer. And since I used to be a futures trader, I have a pretty good idea what I'm doing on that front.

So what was your point again? Couldn't find anything in my actual post that you could attack so you pick on my signature instead? LOL

This whole instant love story is very dubious, but it probably requires a brand new post. This one is about MattCarson&associates.
Please create a new thread to discuss about the magic that turned away PG from BFL obvious scams.

Almost took your post seriously until I saw the cex.io link in your signature.

Question still ignored 9 posts later. For someone so intent on 'shining light on the truth', you appear to be doing a good job at avoiding it.

This is a long con. I don't doubt that for a second.

When I pre-ordered an X-1 in December I had plenty of doubt then as well, but I made the conscious decision to do it anyway. My calculation at the time was a pure risk/return calculation that had nothing to do with mining. I was OK with the mining projections, even if they were late (which seemed to be the common complaint regarding pre-orders) but my concern was with the legitimacy of the company and the whole operation. When I first started thinking about it, there was no re-seller in the US so I would have had to order from BA directly. I had to wait a few days to get paid, then transfer the money to the exchange, then wait three more days for it to get there. Well by the time my $300 made it to the exchange, BA changed their order policy from being able to buy 1 X-1 to 10 X-1's. So I was SoL, I couldn't afford one now!!! No big deal, I got some BTC. But then Minersource came along and said, "Hey! We can sell just one, buy from us!" So I decided to check out their site, filled in the personal information to create an account, went to the order page, and placed the order and it said to expect an email with payment details and instructions. The e-mail said to "contact [email protected] to arrange manual bitcoin payment. I sent him an e-mail and I waited. And I waited. A few hours later I get an e-mail from:


It didn't seem very professional to me at all and my doubt meter went up more. I googled the gmail address and found the E-bay mark against him from a few years back, but nothing else. Still, I remember getting that sense that something seemed just a little off. It was then that I made the risk/return calculation. I figured it was only three hundred bucks and I knew there was a good chance I was just throwing it away. And that was the question I asked myself, is it worth throwing away $300 for a chance at mining some bitcoins with the cheapest pre-order available from a company I felt was a little off? And I just did it. And crossed my fingers the risk would pay off.

Then a few weeks later came the news of the "move to the new data center" and my order is no longer on the live site but stuck in the archive site. And I knew then that I threw my money away.

Sure I held out a little hope, I am human after all, but when they announced the delay, I just gave up.

Then good ole PG came along. I appreciate the work you do over there, even if the posts are getting deleted (and how the fuck is that, in and of itself, not a glaring clue for people anyway??? *shakes head*). If you reach even one person who was about the pull the trigger and didn't, that's a win. But there is nothing you can do to save some people from parting with their money, even when they have been informed. People forget to do their due diligence because we've been hand held for so long, that's all. Some lessons are tough to learn, but absolutely necessary...

I know that I won't get my BTC back, even though I have requested a refund, but that's because an informed decision I made turned out to be a bad choice. I can live with that. Unfortunately many other people can't and so they call FUD on you instead. It's easier to believe the lie than face the consequences of the truth.

You're all wrong, there.
We actually need more people like Phin - even though I was very disappointed and wanted to spank his butt after this JK-Dinner-Feast.
He might be wrong, he might be harmful to some legit businesses.

But he just states publicly known facts. Which should be harmless, right?

This thread delivers. +1000 internets for Phinn's sleuth skills.

tbh...why do you bother investigating?
you've been here longer than me i think... tards gonna tard.. can't stop that
someone could sell a piece of crap with a usb cable hanging out of it if the price is cheap enough... I suspect as long as that piece of crap included free shipping everyone would jump on said piece of crap.

Forum has been over run with degenerates for a while now... your basically one of the few long time members who hasn't ended up scamming, or getting 'hacked' or being so retarded you lose all the $$.

I believe Phinn as he has done significant investigating and picked up on the pattern of bullshit.

Buddy, it's worst then you think. In fact, it's worst that I originally thought. And to think I did all this shit for free, conducting this discovery because I was probably trolled to help a couple fellow bitcoiners out, all the while literally having it stuck up my ass by fellow bitcoiners, some of which I've donated bitcoins to, and possibly tarnished my reputation. Who the hell would ever vet me now?

Speaking of vetting, unfortunately the super-duper Hawaiian co-op will probably be the next entity to cease operations due to this major, major clusterfuck. There is no way in hell that I, nor any fellow bitcoiners worth their salt would have given Matt Carson light of day. Same true for that clown down in Tampa, among a handful of others vetted by them, all of which will be exposed in due time.

Bottom line, there's not a single person that's associated with Black Arrow that I trust, and don't give a rat's ass if none of them, along with their fanbois, think that I'm the one that's a piece of shit.

Suffice to say, anybody now requesting any refunds from Matt Carson, will NOT ever see a satoshi of their precious bitcoins. But don't worry, you won't ever see a Black Arrow product either. And you can take that to the bank.

~Bruno Kucinskas

sweeeeeet jesus
those pictures are a data centre ?

To recap, bitcoiner investomers, having more money than brain cells, have entrusted a pseudo-vetted, hookah tokin', Black Arrow reseller Bitcoiner, who's been warned before about posting certain images on the internet, but didn't heed the advice, opting to show the world his hookah and Skype contacts, has now been shown that he, Matt Carson, a.k.a. Bobsag3, lied about moving his datacenter, yet, the guy who's called out all this to them, and future investomers, is labeled a fruitcake, and probably dons a pink tutu.

The only saving grace is that there's probably no federal agency in the world looking at some hookah tokin' guy in Denver hosting bitcoin miners sourced from a Romanian once arrested and now sells card skimmers based in the UK using various alias possibly gleaned from stolen credit cards who vets then hires known hackers. Not saying that that's a bad thing, nor not saying that that wouldn't happen in the future. Then again, it ain't my precious bitcoiners at stake based on renderings of vaporware.

Amazingly, nary a person's concerned that Matt Carson blatantly lied about the location of his datacenter in Rolla, MO,... never moving it from facility #1 to facility #2, 90 miles away, as he so claimed, prior to now having it located in Colorado, supposedly.

Do I need to explain the images, or are you guys who's on Matt's Skype list cool with everything after tokin' on his hookah? (revisit pic if you missed it)

Building #1: Purchased, but turned out to be a month-to-month lease: September 23, 2013 -- November 16, 2013

Building #2: November 16, 2013 -- December 30, 2013   NOTE: Images prove that #1 & #2 are the same exact building.

Building #3: December 30 -- To Present

Also, Matt Carson went into great deal of how he retrofitted the first facility, then same with the second facility, mainly pertaining to upgrading the electrical capacities of both.

I wish I was able to lease out buildings on a month-to-month basis and have my tenants upgrade my buildings on their dime. If only I could find such a mark who just so happens to have a forum following who have more money than brain cells, thanks to being vetted by an anonymous escrow guy who operates a co-op outta Hawaii, of which was vetted by an anonymous AWOL escrow guy, also of Hawaii. I would be rich beyond my imagination.


Now, he's in an even bigger warehouse in Denver, CO.

In the image below, the edit time is in CST, my time zone here in Sandwich, IL.

http://www.sitelerhakkinda.org/mukarrer/whois/988545


http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=cardreaderfactory.com&prog_id=GoDaddy

Timeline of Matt Carson's datacenter locations.

BUILDING #1: Purchased the building, awaiting infrastructure.



BUILDING #2: Moving to a better facility here (still in Missouri) located 90 miles away.




Here we are, on November 18th, and Matt still has his datacenter in Missouri at the second facility:




November 26th, edited on the 28th, Matt Carson is still in Missouri at the second facility: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3723600


On December 12, 2013, fresh back from China, Matt Carson posted the following... BTW, still located in Missiouri:


On December 13, Matt Carson hired additional staff to work at his Missouri-based datacenter, to date not mentioning Denver even once.


Four hours later, Matt mentions for the first the move to Denver, right after somebody ask about local pickup since he lives in KC. Did his new hires move to Denver with him?


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/minersourcenet-miner-hosting-llc-cheap-and-secure-hosting-and-sales-288012


BUILDING #3:

Somewhere in Colorado, in some warehouse with 16-18 foot ceilings, ideally well-suited for bitcoin miners that love fiberglass dust sourced from the exposed insulation in the ceilings and walls, blown free from the constantly moving vortex of air due to the industrial-sized air conditioning unit(s). Whatever you do, don't open up that massive overhead door that's probably not well-sealed, otherwise you'll really have the dust a flying.

This has been the third time you're on record in stating that you only moved once. Care to try for a forth time?

~TMIBTCITW

Any references to Alex Sovu have been removed from the thread and even David's post was edited to only mention Matt and not Alex.

What's sad about your post is that you truly believe what you wrote. With your logic, every single person that's not a customer of some Bitcoin related entity that's not on the up-and-up shouldn't bother themselves with helping in the investigation to get to the bottom of things, is that correct?

The legit reason, and there is no other motherfuckin' reason, is that I CARE!!!

Gage,

In all seriousness, why are you so invested in trying to reveal everyone as a scammer? If you were a customer of Minersource or Black Arrow, I would understand spending the time and effort to dig so deep and grasp at straws, but I can't figure out why you care so much?

Honestly, whats your stake in this? All this hate and FUD might make sense if you had an actual interest in these companies, but it's starting to look like you are indeed working for someone with motive to bring these guys down.

I don't know, maybe there is a legit reason behind it, but I'm just not seeing it.

From the desk of I Will Shit in Your Face and Make You Like It, I present proof that Matt Carson moved his datacenter from Building #2 back to Building #1 via only the images below, for if you fucks can't clearly see that Matty Boy has lied not only on how many times he moved the datacenter, but also lied as to where your precious are being hosted, then you deserve to lose your precious bitcoins. Chances are, though, that I may help connect the dots if given a blowjob--or kindly ask, albeit I'd prefer the former.

You ignored the question.

If you're so tired, then why don't you put me on ignore. Surely, my voice isn't loud enough to influence anybody, is it?

Meanwhile, enjoy the following pic taken at Matt Carson's datacenter. Bonus points awarded if you can spot IT and guess if IT was the first thing carefully packed when he moved(?) to Denver, CO:

Tell us more about your arrangement please.

I'm so tired of you trying to shit on every company ever. Look at the graph of hash rates, someone is delivering. Not everyone can be a scam.

http://www.tradezz.com/corp_1136173_CardReaderFactory.htm


http://www.china-wholesale-cell-phone.com/c-cardreaderfactory-226206.html

As promised, if the following post was deleted in Black Arrow's main thread, I said I would re-post here, so here it is.

Until Matt Carson moved to Denver, a not so great place for his hosting. Quite frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what Matt pays per KWH, but I'm pretty sure his investomers do. Why? I don't know! Maybe this?

BTW, it's almost paid off, and Josh was kind enough to pay interest on the payback.

I have a great idea! Why don't you start a thread consisting of calling me out on this? Make it self-moderated so that if I happen to stop by spewing vile, you can delete my posts.

Deal?

If not, I will, for the very first time in my going on three years on this forum, exercise the notify mod option.

I can even make it easy for you so that you don't have to put much thought into said action.

Entitle the thread: Bruno Kucinsaks aka Phinnaeus Gage aka TMIBITW is a Liar.

For the OP, simply copy and paste this post.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have shit still to pen about Matt Carson before moving onto the other resellers and Black Arrow proper, et al.

~TMIBTCITW

LOL... he didn't PAY his bet. He is doing WEEKLY to shut you up. Nice. Oh my what a joke. Paid off silence. That just puts a nail in your credibility coffin right there buddy. No wonder we haven't had the DETAILS.

Does anyone else think that stinks to high heaven? Being paid weekly to keep your mouth shut more like. Done dealing with this thread your payment arrangements with Josh speak volumes on what is really going on.

That is an ignore till you stop taking a dive for coins.

Which is worse?

BFL or Black Arrow?

Josh Z. or Matt C.?

Seriously.

Re: What Are Your Electricity Cost for Mining Bitcoins?


http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_06_b

And as soon as Josh misses one weekly payment, I'll be back in BFL's threads like... like... like... Still thinking!

I'll address this later, for I'm still working on this Denver bullshit, mkay?

Care to respond to WHY you are not posting in BFL threads considering they are doing a lot more DAMAGE to the Bitcoin economy than Black Arrow at this point?

How does Matt's warehouse / hosting have anything to do with Black Arrow shipping units? Canard much?

Would you not just get on teamspeak, gtalk or some other medium and get the answers and then report back here? I don't see anything here that is menacing for a Black Arrow customers. Again really what is the point? Other than to muckrake and sensationalize this well out of proportion. I suggest you would get a LOT more answers if you just started a voice chat and had an open dialogue with Matt. At this point you are really just trying to be the center of attention and not really resolving anything for anyone. Take the ego down an notch or a 100 notches get the answers you need from him directly and POST it here. I can't watch this obvious ego centered attack on Matt or others without doing the simple thing sitting down with the people and getting answers you need. Unless you are doing this for other reasons.

How is Matt's record on shipping units and hosting? Is that not more RELEVANT a measure? I do believe there should be 100's of customers at this point that can attest to his trustworthiness. Again really there is evidence to support Matt as a person that has been trusted, has delivered so why exactly are we concerned with warehouse space? Is he not providing a service? Are those services being denied customers?

Meanwhile millions are being absconded from this community by BFL. Why don't you focus on the real and immediate threats caused by BFL? Still no answer. Just a diatribe and more avoidance.

Or if you prefer.





So no REASON for yet for your taking up this distraction versus actually saving people from BFL. Sad so much for TRUTH.

I'm about to punch holes in that claim unless, due to the San Madrid fault, Missouri moved 40 miles closer to Colorado, then I'll stand corrected.

Come to think of it, I hope it's true, for note the state separating the two:

First off, fuzznuts, I'm not being paid by anybody to do this, but if I were, I would declare such in a heartbeat. The next time you accuse me of such, do so in front of some live witnesses in front of my face, whereupon both of us will later be placed in some wards: You in the hospital, and me playing the part of somebody's bitch, not saying that'll be a bad thing.  

You are more than welcome to dispute any facts I post in this thread. If your assessment is valid, then I will retract what was penned.

Starting with...

We do not know who is BlackArrow Matt, let alone what continent he's on.  FACT!
We do not know the name of who represented Black Arrow when Matt Carson met up with him in the UK during his so-called recent visit:  FACT!
Matt Carson never explained why after purchasing the first datacenter in Rolla, MO, along with retrofitting it on his investomer's satoshi, he opted to move the datacenter to a new location sans a vote by the co-op, incurring an expense, then moved it again, incurring another expense, then moved it again to some undisclosed location in Denver, incurring yet another expense.  FACT!

Yet, I'm the one you're calling out on, especially on the latter point, even though this very important issue has been expressed a few times prior by other bitcoiners. I was merely connecting the dots, sometimes skewly, but still to the benefit of those that have moneys tied up due to the Group-Buy-Guru guy's vetting process. The only saving grace is that DZ was vetted by John K., both residing in Hawaii, who, by the way, the latter is no longer around, before positioning himself as the largest group buy co-op/vetting service less than a month later. DZ even vetted some clown in Florida that's a alt coin guy, who's taking under-performing bitcoin miners off Matt's hands, thanks to a suggestion by a Newbie, at the time, and hosting them at his datacenter paid for by the Sunshiner's investomers.  FACT!

~TMIBTCITW

Where is there evidence to support this?

Up and up? Define where they have not been up and up and how that is somehow intentional and further how that caused a loss for the customers?

Again Bobsag3 (Matt)  answered your questions. He told you straight up when asked why he moved datacenters. How does his datacenter affect Black Arrow shipping?

At this point there is nothing more than lack of communication and I don't see where anyone is trying to purposefully hide facts from those who pre-ordered Black Arrow products.

Your time would be BEST spent on a company that has lied outright to the community.


PG you can go FUCK yourself and your opinion about whether I am a fanboi for BLACK ARROW. I don't care about your opinion about my love or hate of Black Arrow products and the people associated with them. I am not a fan of people who basically side step their own TRUTH. You are such a person. That is what is circumspect in my mind about you and this new found focus on Black Arrow. Let me now play the J'ACCUSE GAME with you.

Why are you not posting about BFL anymore? Be HONEST. Don't side step and dance about come out and tell us why? Why should anyone trust someone that doesn't come straight out with it? Can I speculate that you are now on Black Arrow and others as being paid off by BFL to do so? I reserve the right to call you a shill of BFL since you fail to comment about them further and they continue to rip off the community.

Still waiting on the TX ID for all your donations as well. Still not posted with links to forums where you have indicated donations. See it is pretty easy to make threads that call people into question. I am pretty sure you put donations in and are an upstanding member of the community. But you are seriously misguided in this respect with Black Arrow or are you just trolling to get another free meal and a miner shipped?

Just chiming in- I have moved datacenters once. From Missouri to CO. My ebay profile still lists texas- as thats where I grew up and opened the account from, and evidently never got around to changing it. Still have a old texas DL around here somewhere.

The actors associated with Black Arrow are NOT being up-and-up with their investomers at best, with them conducting something rather nefariously, alone or in concert, at worst.

For instance, as I continue to read threads on this forum, and elsewhere, I've recently learnt that I wasn't the first person to raise a concern about Matt Carson moving his datacenter at least twice, to date.

At the moment, I'm not considering you a fanboi of Black Arrow, but reserve the right to change my position on a satoshi.

~TMIBTCITW

I would make a fantastic preorder customer because I read/understand the rules before agreeing to them.

Seriously what kind of idiot gives their irreversible cash to a company for a product that has not been finished and expects a refund when their "investment" doesn't go according to their calculations.

I was a former BFL customer and while dissatisfied with the delays I still made a profit in USD without any butthurt.


You are exactly right. The direction this thread is going is to create as much conspiracy theories/FUD as possible. He is not interested in looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion from them. He has already drawn his own conclusion and is attempting to create the evidence to support it. 

Not sure the motives behind it but I have a feeling he may be paid by BFL to troll.

Better use of your time... attack BFL and help bring them down.

Black Arrow is responsive.
Black Arrow has regrettably delayed shipping.
Black Arrow is not perfect.

I don't see any relevance to getting miners faster with this line of inquiry. They messed up they are trying to fix it chalk this up to another company with a set back nothing more. Our own group would have LOVED to have some Minion chips to play with and are somewhat sad we won't see the chips the end of this month. I don't see where this thread is going? Please STATE CLEARLY what you are driving at here. What is it exactly you are trying to get the community to understand? If there was a FOCUS then I might actually pay attention to what you are doing. As far as I can tell you have posted names of people great most of the people in this community already know who the BA players are.

As I said in the other thread.....you would make a FANTASTIC BFL customer,PLEASE go order a Monarch or two   


Please continue Phinn 

Fanboi #1 asks why I started this thread, even though it was suggested to me to do such by one of his fanboi butt-buddies, prior to having my discovery posts being deleted over yonder. Also note, this fanboi has me on ignore, yet opts to come here claiming that I'm the one spreading FUD. Go figure!

Honestly, I think he's jealous because I'm...

~TMIBTCITW

Is this another thread to create FUD since nobody took your scam accusations thread seriously?

reserved for next post i'm about to pen, opting to reserve the second post for the last of actor at Black Arrow

List of names/entities associated with Black Arrow:

• blackarrow

• Alexzndru Ion Sovu aka Alex Sovu
• BlackArrow Matt
• bobsag3

Fanbois (or sockpuppets):

• jimmothy
• Reserved for Fanboi #2

Entities:

• BBYTE LTD
• Card Reader Factory

This list will be updated daily unless I'm moving my laptop 40 miles down the road from Missouri to Denver, whereupon it remain stagnant for 72 hours or a week, depending on Comcast.

Due to all my 174 posts being deleted from Black Arrow's main thread by their Grand Poobah, considering me nothing but a troll, I've opted to heed the advice of one of their fanbois and start this thread, whereupon some of said deleted posts may make their way here if they're not well-suited for my Black Arrow scammer thread.

What would truly break my heart is if I later learn that BlackArrow Matt proves to be M.N.W. (obfuscated), for I like the guy. This fucked-up thought somehow entered my head when I typed that last period in the first paragraph above.

Perhaps, Dallas5 is correct in his assessment, seeing he's been here long enough to know me:


Then again, perhaps not! (referencing the quoted text, and NOT my fucked-up thought)

Feel free to chime in and divulge anything considered Black Arrow, including posting your posts that were also deleted from Black Arrow's holier-than-thou thread, for this is a non self-moderated thread.

~Bruno Kucinskas